Aven's Paranormal

This is a story of one of my very first true experiences with meditation. To this day I have no real words to adequately describe the experience. I wrote it all down immediately after it happened so I would not forget the details. That began a practice that I continue to this day.

I had spent a couple of weeks trying to meditate and I couldn't. For whatever reason, I couldn't get my mind settled. I couldn't relax and I could barely sleep. I was at a point of extreme frustration and pushing only made it worse. After a couple weeks I just said enough of it and decided to 'take a break' from meditation completely.

When you stop pushing, things happen.

Sometime later, I got home late one night and I was feeling really tired but I had so much to get done so I decided to just power through. I sat at my desk and started doing paperwork and working on the pc. It was around 10:30 at night. But, I was so distracted that I could barely concentrate. I sat back in my chair, closed my eyes and started rubbing my temples. That was when my experience began.

Now, I have to break this down in segments so it will make sense.

Part 1.

I was sitting at my desk like I described. For some reason, I had the strong desire to get up and walk outside onto the patio behind my office. All of a sudden and without warning, I was in two places at once and aware of both "Avens" - I was aware that I was still sitting in my chair and that I had never left. But I was also standing outside on my patio, looking back through the doors at me sitting in the chair. I was aware of both perspectives at once. There is no way for me to describe the feeling to where it can be sufficiently explained. I was me looking at me on the patio, and I was me looking at me on the patio looking at me sitting in the chair.

It only lasted for a second and then for lack of a better word, I was 'jolted' back together. And it hurt. I had such a headache that it nearly doubled me over and for a few seconds I literally could not breathe and I did not know who or where I was. I was the only one in the house and I actually called my son to come check on me because I was afraid I might be having a stroke or a brain hemorrhage. Thankfully the headache went away quickly and I recovered. So after this episode I decided that the paperwork could wait and I went and stretched out on the couch.

Part 2.

I'm laying on the couch. The headache had completely gone away by now. I was also completely wide awake and nowhere near on the verge of sleep. My brain was going 100mph. I started to do some slow breathing techniques and grounding visualizations to help 'pull myself back together' I probably did this for about 15 minutes. I felt myself finally start to relax and center, when I 'dropped'. That is my word to describe the feeling. The sensation is almost like being submerged completely except that your face is just above the water. All you feel is the oval of your face and everything else is under the surface. I recognized the feeling so I just let go and went with it. It's the first sensation of entering into an altered state.

So I went under. I lost a part of my consciousness, but a part of me was aware and extremely focused. I was in a place of almost complete darkness. I say almost because I could make out vague shapes. It was like being in a dark room and then your eyes adjust enough to see slightly.

I was in darkness but I could feel a barrier with my hands, like reaching out and feeling a wall. It had length and width and I could barely make out light above and beneath this wall. Thin strands of light like the barrier was blocking a light on the other side. I could also hear voices on the other side. I distinctly heard two voices talking, one male and one female. It's like they were carrying a on conversation and they weren't aware that I could hear them. I started calling out to them and said that I couldn't get past the barrier. They stopped talking to each other and the female voice asked the male, "She can hear us?" I never heard the male respond. I asked, "How can I get past the wall? I can hear you but I can't see you!"

That was when I came out of where ever I was. I had that jolt again but there was no headache this time. I came out and I felt like someone was 'breathing' me. Like I was breathing but it wasn't me doing it. I had that same feeling of being outside myself and being the 'observer' watching me.

Part 3.

I was still laying on the couch. This time I was completely exhausted. Mentally and physically drained. I don't think I could have moved if I wanted to. At this point I actually fell asleep and slept for about 4 hours. During this point I had one of the weirdest dreams that I've ever had in my life. I woke up and felt really, really good and extremely relaxed. I decided to get up and go to the kitchen because I was starving. I got up, walked into the kitchen and grabbed a glass of tea and a piece of leftover pizza. I grabbed all the stuff and headed back to the couch.

And I saw myself laying there still asleep. Stretched out. Mouth open and snoring. Seeing myself is what woke me up. Me waking up and going to the kitchen had been in the dream itself. I woke up (for real) and walked into the kitchen to make sure I had actually not been in there.

Part 4.

I was sitting on the couch wondering if I was losing my mind at this point. I'm not kidding when I say I felt like I was losing my grip on reality. I was scared. Probably one of the scariest times of my life. So I sat back and did my breathing and centering technique again to calm myself down. It helped. At this point it was coming up on 6:00 in the morning so I just decided to get up and work through the day as I normally would. For me, work is what calms me down. If I can stay busy I can keep my myself together.

So I went through my day and gradually got myself together and had a semi normal day. I worked out, listened to music, did my busywork. Cleaned house. I didn't have any other weird things happen that day. I even made a point to go through the house where I saged and cleansed the whole area just in case I had some pesty spook trying to mess with my head.

Part 5.

The day went as normal and around 11:00 that night I went to bed. I did my breathing and calming exercise again and again, without warning I was out. It happened very fast. I had that sudden 'drop' again and this time I lost my awareness completely, like I entered a dream state.

I was again in that dark place but this time there was a light in front and just above my eyes. I felt like I was suspended and free floating in liquid. It was completely dark except for this bright spotlight. Like someone was standing above me and aiming a flashlight just at my hairline. I was completely frozen and unable to move. I couldn't even close my eyes. The light itself pulsed like a strobe light and kept changing colors. From white to blue to purple to indigo to green and red. It had a beat to it like it was moving to music. I had the impression that it was alive.

I had that feeling again that I was not in control and that I was being breathed. I also had that same submerged feeling. I started to move forward but I was not the one moving. It's like the 'scene' was moving towards me and I couldn't stop it. As I moved forward the light moved up and behind me and I could 'feel' it pulsing behind me. It faded as I got further away from it.

As I moved forward I started to 'lose myself' I have no words to explain it. But I knew if I kept going that I would vanish and not come back. I wasn't afraid but I knew that it was something that I didn't want. I said in my mind, "Stop. I want this to end."

Right back then I was back at the wall feeling the barrier. The darkness and the little strands of light but no voices this time. I still felt like I was free floating and I reached out to the wall to anchor myself. I had the thought in my head that I'd better find a way out of here or I'm royally screwed. That was when the experience ended and I sat up in bed. I never had such an experience again after that.

I've spent years trying to decipher the experience and I always end up with more questions.

Did I bi locate? Did I astral travel? Did I die and come back? Did I enter the 'void' ?
Who were the voices? What was the barrier? What brought on the experience in the first place?

Questions. Questions and more Questions.

To this day, I have no good answers. Did I pierce the veil l briefly and see something I wasn't meant to?

I'll probably never know until I get there. Again.

My paranormal experiences are mostly with “shadow people” appearing.
For those not familiar with the term, imagine a completely solid black silhouette of a person, but instead of a 2-dimensional shadow against a wall, it’s 3-dimensional standing in the middle of the room. Solid black. No eyes, mouth, or other details other than the clear outline of the head, neck, shoulders, torso, legs (or dress), etc., and actually moving in the room like a live human.

I had some strange occurrences as a child, but shadow people began appearing when I was in my early teens.

The first time I experienced a shadow person was at 13 years old. I was in my bedroom standing by my bed. It was night but the lights were on so the room was fully lit. I happened to look up and I saw the black silhouette of an old woman standing there “looking” at me. I could not see her facial features since she was just a solid black figure, but she was facing me and I understood she was looking right at me, watching me.

Her outline was of a woman from the 1800’s with a narrow waist but wearing a blouse with “poofy” shoulders, a floor length skirt, and her hair tied in a bun. She was short ... perhaps 5 feet tall.

We both just stood there looking at one another for a few seconds, then she slowly turned right and walked out of the room.

There was no fear at all. It was more of a curiosity to me. I immediately followed her out of the room but she was gone.

There many more of these episodes following this one. Some were witnessed by multiple people at the same time. I’ve lived in many different places over the years and they appear to me in every single residence to this very day right here in my house, but they’re always different people.

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my working theory on Shadow people is that they are spirits who for whatever reason, can't draw enough energy to fully manifest.

Great topic, the “paranormal” rabbit hole is what led me here in the first place…due to inexplicable experiences I’ve had

I look forward to your posts

Yes. We're trying to go old school GLP here. Even though I wasn't around for 'old school glp' :)

I've encountered shadow people on numerous occasions, doing what I do. One time I was visiting a friend out in New Orleans, and I saw not one, but two distinct shadow beings in this girl's house. One seemed to inhabit the attic and the other, the basement. She was never aware of them yet they followed her around almost constantly. I debated about telling her and I finally decided not to since they weren't causing any trouble and she couldn't see them.

Mine's not the greatest, but it goes back to the 90's.

I was out in a field looking at the stars at night. It was a quiet night, the usual.

Anyway, I am just lying there, and I was looking at or near the moon. That's why I even noticed it. A patch of stars up in the sky was moving the wrong way. It's hard to describe, but it was super obvious once I spotted it. It was three or four stars in an irregular pattern, IE not an airplane and it's wings.

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These lines are supposed to be spaces _

Something like that, there was also something that almost looked like an outline. Kinda like when you paint something black and then put it in the sky, but the night sky isn't actually black it's lots of different colors.

It was about 1 cm long, and if I had to guess it was at an extremely high altitude. It looked like four stars at a glance. The shape was also rather oval, like a blimp.

It's possible it was a blimp, but that thing would have been way higher than any blimp I know of. In contrast, it moved like a blimp. Just WAY too high for a blimp. I would also say it was early to middle 90's, so not the ISS construction.

If it was in the 00's I would have pegged it as the ISS with four guys welding something with really f'ing big welders. It was high up. Higher than the clouds, although there weren't many it was a very cloudless night. But I gaze enough to be able to ballpark it. I would guess it was about the height of Cirrus clouds. Which makes a 1 cm long object pretty freaking huge. Now I kinda want to do some math.

Always assumed it was something the military was hiding, but my knowledge of mechanical sciences is better now than back then. And I don't know what that was. U F O. Sorry no cryptids were involved.

Didn't show the spaces in front of the asterix.

Last Edited by Glaxnor on 08/18/2021 11:54 PM

Awesome.

That sounds like an experience I had in my teens when I was outside and saw what I could only describe as a white flying cigar. I was lying in the backyard at my house and it was around dusk. I just happened to be looking up and I saw this white...something...just sort of hovering. Then it moved very slowly out of sight. I have no idea what it was. And I was not the only one who saw it that night.

Thank you for sharing. I love these kinds of threads!


It sounds like you had a couple out of body experiences. That can happen spontaneously when you are really tired, but also trying hard to focus on something.

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I had one once. It was 20+ years ago, when I was younger and still living at home. It was in the morning, and I had come home from an all-night bender and was feeling really awful. I collapsed on my bed, and the next thing I know I woke up in my room, but I was above my body.

I didn't feel scared or anything. I just had this odd feeling that this was supposed to happen. I started to walk around my house and came across each of my family members, even though my mom was the only one home at the time. The strange thing is they didn't appear as human bodies, but as moving, purple energy.

They all had this exact same appearance, except the energy behaved very differently for each person. For example, my brother's energy was moving really fast and bouncing up and down, but my dad's didn't move at all and you got sucked into it if you went too close. I had this distinct feeling that the energy represented their unique personalities.

Anyway, after witnessing this for a while I decided I wanted to fly, and so I went back to my room and tried to fly through the window there... but I got stuck in the glass. It took a lot of effort and a few more attempts, but I eventually made it through and started to fly around my neighborhood and the ocean that was nearby.

I wanted to see what it was like under the water, and so I dove into it and went further and further down. I found a door at the bottom of the ocean. As soon as I opened it I got scared. I suddenly realized I was under water and that maybe I would drown... and this caused the experience to end.

This was the first paranormal experience I ever had. It started my lifelong interest in the paranormal and lucid dreaming, which I started to learn about and practice soon after.

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These days though, I have a meditation practice that is a little more esoteric. It allows you to see all kinds of phenomena when practicing in the dark. You will see colors, faces, shadow beings and sometimes these windows with live scenes playing inside of them. Sometimes you will see a black wall too. I am not sure if it's the same one you describe, but feel free to check it out. You can ignore all the theory and skip to the 2nd and 3rd post for the steps.

Thread: My Theory on Reality and How to Escape This Simulation

If I could peg its distance more reliably, I could get a good idea on its size. My finger was about 1 cm in length, and I am pretty sure it was about 20 cm in front of my face.

That would make it at 250m long at the minimum. Bigger if it was higher, which is what I think. That quickly makes its length in kilometers. Which would be massive.

Of course, I could be entirely wrong and it was just a regular plane pulling a string of lights behind it in the middle of the night for no reason.

Thanks for sharing op
Just the other day I was sitting down in the living room and I felt about 6 loud ass foot steps charging right at me. It stopped right in front of me but I’m heavily protected by something I believe. I’m not usually spooked by sudden loud noises but this was different. Being that my feet felt this more than anything I was beyond convinced at that point.

Just a thought but what if they know these spirits or whatever are coming closer and closer into our reality, everyday. Mystics use a technique called smudging to ward away these bad “entities”.
Now think about how half the world is on fire (now mostly Siberia) and investigate how “naturally occurring” they are.

Think about how everyone forgot about Gordon Rosé and the alter for aliens (D-wave)

Naaaa we’re not in a spiritual warfare or anything lol

Last Edited by Chaconsheeth on 08/19/2021 08:24 AM

Here is a story from a family friend that I've been given permission to share.

"I was around 10 years old when this happened.

My mom and dad had gone to Hattiesburg to see my grandparents. They were on their way back home to Booneville and they passed through this little town called Fulton. It was around 1:00 in the morning.

As they stopped at the light on main street, across the street from them they saw this large black man standing there watching them. The man had no expression on his face and he just stood there staring. He looked messed up like he had been in a fight. His shirt looked ripped and his pants had holes in them. There also looked like there was blood on his shirt and his pants.

My mom wanted to see if the man needed help but my dad was worried that the guy might be a psycho killer or some criminal so they kept on going. They went a little ways down the road and finally my mom convinced my dad to go back because the guy looked like he was in real trouble.

They turn around and go back but the guy is nowhere to be found. They drove around for a bit and never saw the guy again. It kinda freaked my mom and dad out because at this time of night everything was closed and there was no place this guy could have gone in that amount of time.

They are sitting in the car wondering about what they just saw when my dad gets this overwhelming feeling of danger. He looks at my mother and says we need to get out of here right now.

They got home and the next morning they learned that there been a really bad wreck at that intersection not long after they had left. Everyone in the wreck had died.

To this day my mom says the man was a guardian angel warning them. My dad doesn't like to talk about it but he thinks they saw the ghost of an old slave who had been killed."

Very interesting. I'm very curious about the barrier.

I'm very familiar with smudging. It seems as though as time progresses the veil between our reality and the other side is getting thinner.

I had a similar experience in of all places, walmart. I kid you not. I went in late one night to pick up some things in the HBA section and I had what sounded like 20 people rushing me. Coming at me from all sides. It only lasted a minute and then it was gone. It was on a weeknight and almost 2:00 in the morning so the store was practically deserted. later on a couple other people told me of similar experiences and said the store was haunted.

Yeah. Haunted Walmart lol

I don't have time, ATM, to elaborate, but I had a maze of experience for 40+ years.

The majority was composed of random sleep paralysis dreams. However interspersed were incredible things that most could only laugh at. It concerns a main point of realizing that those who pass to the other side persist and have the ability to influence this world in strange ways.

It is a long story and I will try to relate the basics later.

Awesome! I look forward to hearing it.

Sleep paralysis seems very closely related to the shadow people phenomenon

Yes... A key component... shadow figures in the room. It might amaze you as to who they are... Or should I say who I think mine were. If I wake up early in the morning I will begin. Now I need to sleep.

I had one experience when I was in South Texas. I had been invited to go hunting by a few friends who were excited because they had just opened a new deer lease and they had just gotten the blinds setup.

So it's early morning and I'm out in the woods in a blind literally freezing my ass off. The guy who was with me had fallen asleep. I'm sitting there and out of nowhere comes this howl. I'm familiar with the sounds of coyotes, mountain lions, bobcats, wolves and other night creatures. Whatever made this sound was no animal that I had ever heard before.

I couldn't get a good read on the distance because it came in waves. It would seem to get louder and come closer, then it would fade out and get quieter as it seemed to move away from us.

There were a few moments where I had the feeling that whatever this was, it was watching us. But being armed to the teeth, I figured we could handle whatever decided we might be tasty.

This went on for most of the night and of course my companion slept all the way through it. I finally dozed off myself after a few hours with no more howling. The next morning we continued on as if nothing happened and I never heard the sound again.

About 8 years ago my neighbor two houses down passed away suddenly. He was in his early 80’s but had no health issues. He was jolly and happy go lucky type. He had a very distinctive laugh that was so loud that I’d hear it all the time. It always put a smile on my face.

It saddened me not having a chance to have one last conversation with him or even just the chance to say hello one final time.

One morning about 10 days after he passed away, I was walking to my car to go to work. I usually leave the house at 5 am and it’s always dark out. As I was about to get into my car I saw a shadowy figure walking down the street and it startled me. I’d hardly seen anyone out at that time. As the shadowy figure began to round the corner I heard that distinctive and loud laugh that my recently deceased neighbor had. It came from the same direction as the corner where the shadowy figure had rounded.

I got in my car and tried to catch up with him but he was gone. I rolled down the window and could still hear the laughter but it seemed well into the distance.

I’d never seen or heard a ghost before. I’d felt the presence of a known mischievous entity before when walking on a country road late one night in Ireland. That was a creepy experience. However hearing and seeing what I’m convinced was my old neighbor that morning was one of the most remarkable and heart warming experiences of my life.

Awesome. Kinda changes our perspective after an experience of that sort.

Yes it does. Even growing up like I have, I've still had experiences that have changed my perspective.

Wow! had a similar experience in 2011 when I moved into my new rural home right next to the Green Swamp in Polk County Florida. I was unloading the car carrying stuff in about 11 pm , heard this incredible roar about (estimated ) 5 to 6 hundred yards away, a couple of minutes later again about 2 hundred yards, a couple of minutes later about 80 yards just at the wood line to the swap north of my house. It is very dark here so I couldn't see anything, so I went inside and got my pistol. About 3 to 5 minutes later I heard it one last time, by then it was probably almost a mile away.

Never heard the roar again, but stranger things have happened in the years following. Talked to my neighbors the next morning, they heard it too, didn't know what it was, given what happened years later I suspect it was the local skunk ape (Sasquatch). Listened to every large animal sound I could find on the internet, nothing even came close.

Okay... so I will give a quick summary of the beginning of the story that partially defined my life.

My father decided to take his own life when I was about 6 years old (he was 42), my mother didn't tell me how he passed until I was about 12 years old... I had no immediate feeling except that I wished he had stayed, being so young I had limited memories of my interactions with him other than they were very special.

In later years my mother explained a bit more about him, my mother was his third wife and I had two half-brothers from his first wife. The two half brothers were quite strange and about 15 years older than me, I was never inclined to be around them. At some point she told me that the fact of the matter was he was, as she put it, a ladies man. A short time prior to his suicide, perhaps a long as a year, she told me a woman had called her and asked if she would consider giving him a divorce. She said no. A bit of this is necessary to set the stage.

Prior to leaving home shortly before I graduated from high school I had two events that were just emotionally strange. It was a bit like having a sensation of a soft gentle wave enter my body, I began to have unsteady movements and shaking, not violently, but disturbing none the less. I had the distinct impression later that a spirit had enveloped me. The two events only lasted a few minutes then went away

I attended a technical school in Tampa after high school graduation for a year and a half. It was during that time that I experienced my first sleep paralysis dream. A quote from a poem I wrote years ago explains the experience the best
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"On a summer afternoon in 72 with a couch nap on his mind
He curled up under a cool AC breeze and drifted into sleep.
His slumber was deep but short as his eyes opened to find
He was paralyzed and the perception someone stood behind
He struggled in fear to overcome that which was undefined.

Although he tried to scream not a single sound was manifest.
His eyes could clearly see all but the presence at his back
And time stood still while his sanity was put to the test.
The overwhelming sense of hands reaching out then the black
As he closed his eyes with a breath his muscles went slack.

The instant he could move he sprang up and spun around
The angst and anxiety did suddenly burst like a bubble
At the unexpected discovery that no intruder was found.
So profound was the effect he knew there would be trouble
For this was no dream that time would allow to be unbound
This plague was destined to deny him emotional solid ground.

Questions poured into his mind like an uncontrolled flood.
This was not like the past work of a shadow world creature,
Too real to be a dream it passed a chill through his blood.
No doubt about it there was a distinct spiritual feature
And soon enough the experience would become his teacher."

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I graduated from Tech school at the end of that year then accepted a job in Texas. While I was packing for the move to Texas a friend of my parents (Mother and step-dad) said she and her husband had a set of drinking glasses they wanted to give me. When I went to visit. She and I sat in a sitting room at the back of the house. She began to talk about my father, that they had had long conversations and how he was fascinated with meta physics. As I was leaving she turned to face me said I was so much like my father then gave me a big wet french kiss. At this point I knew who had asked my mother to give my father a divorce.


I have work to do now as always.... So more later.

Last Edited by scimitar on 08/20/2021 08:59 AM

Hmmm... I had the thought to go read one of your personal pinned threads. Now we each make our own decisions in life based on our individual reality. My signature is

"One Truth... many realities"

I am unable to ever see things differently... There is a way things are, "immutable", and not requiring a consciousness to interpret them... Then there are individual realities for each and every consciousness. our senses provide us with information about the world we live in, genetics to a certain degree predisposes us to certain characteristics and then there are the non physical(spiritual) influences if you will, that add another component to the composite of what our perception of reality is composed of.

You made a specific comment that seems to me to be somewhat lacking in rational and critical thought from the perspective of my reality, I realize many people in the world believe similar things, but it does give me pause. It is important to remember my premise... We do not have a perfect picture of truth, it is important in your influence of others that you not present your beliefs as fact as so many here do. To state that there is no Good or Evil in the manifestations of existence is to ignore an aspect of living in this physical domain... That there are things far worse than death to be experienced here, things done on purpose by individuals to other individuals with no other meaning than pleasure or self elevation. From a logical standpoint in order to make something from nothing a positive and negative must result, such that when you recombine them the resultant quantity returns to zero.

I submit my view that when this physical domain came into existence it did so from nothing and each attribute of said existence possess a positive and negative.

I replied to this on my other thread so as to keep this thread on topic

Two school friends of mine who were childhood sweethearts got married shortly after they graduated. After they got married things very quickly went downhill. Their marriage was very rocky to say the least. He suffered from clinical depression and he began to have an affair with a young lady that he worked with. The wife found out and one night while they were sitting up in bed and she confronted him. He then pulled out a pistol and shot himself in the head. They rushed him to the hospital and managed to keep him alive for a few hours. I was there when he finally passed. Her and I both felt his spirit appear in the room with his body. You could feel his confusion about what had happened. I didn't say anything but she said out loud, "You have to go. You're not a part of us anymore" I felt him leave the room. She later told me that she saw his shadow in their bedroom and that she thought he had come to say goodbye before he crossed over.

I posted this on another thread where the op was talking about being able to influence people with thought.

I was in a restaurant one night having dinner alone and there was this couple with a really noisy toddler. The toddler had her back to me. It was obvious that she was tired and very cranky.

I stared at her head and silently in my mind said, "settle down and be quiet, child."

She whipped her head around and looked at me like, what the actual F was that. She stared at me completely stunned.

Then she just sat down in her chair and never said another word. Her parents just looked at me and smiled very awkwardly and I shrugged and smiled back.

Every now and then the child would turn around and glance back at me and I'd smile and wave.

I have had some cray cray paranormal experiences in the past.

I lived in this one house where I knew a spirit lived. It started out with it hitting the window behind the couch every time I sat there. Then started banging on the entertainment center. My son and his girlfriend would sleep on the couch a night here and there. It scared the crap out of those two.

One night, I got out of bed in the dark to go to the bathroom. I'm like a blind person, I can move about without the need to turn on lights.

As I neared the foot of the bed, I felt like this force knocking me backward. I stumbled, almost falling down. I have felt spirits in other places, but nothing like that happened before or since.

Do you know the history of the place?