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Clot shot not authorized as a vaccine.

 
Feistylorax
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Clot shot not authorized as a vaccine.
They Authorized it as a BLA

Per their own website that means it is not a vaccine.

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Re: Clot shot not authorized as a vaccine.
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Re: Clot shot not authorized as a vaccine.
They Authorized it as a BLA

Per their own website that means it is not a vaccine.

[link to www.fda.gov (secure)]

Monoclonal antibodies for in-vivo use
Cytokines, growth factors, enzymes, immunomodulators; and thrombolytics
Proteins intended for therapeutic use that are extracted from animals or microorganisms, including recombinant versions of these products (except clotting factors)
Other non-vaccine therapeutic immunotherapies
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It was authorized today.
Its the same shot they used under EAU and now it has a new name comirnaty. Its physically the same shot but now approved and not under the EAU anymore. They are also allowed to use the vials that were manufactured under the EAU because it is the same shot.
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Re: Clot shot not authorized as a vaccine.
Where is your link showing them approving it under this use and not as a vaccine?

If they approved it as a Therapeutic Biologics Applications (BLA) then wouldn't the patient have to be diagnosed with some condition warranting the shot?

They can't just force everyone to get a BLA with no diagnosis of need.
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Re: Clot shot not authorized as a vaccine.
Where is your link showing them approving it under this use and not as a vaccine?

If they approved it as a Therapeutic Biologics Applications (BLA) then wouldn't the patient have to be diagnosed with some condition warranting the shot?

They can't just force everyone to get a BLA with no diagnosis of need.
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If it was not licensed as a vaccine then hypothetically the manufacturer can be sued, like any other drug.

Only vaccines are exempt.
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Re: Clot shot not authorized as a vaccine.
They Authorized it as a BLA

Per their own website that means it is not a vaccine.

[link to www.fda.gov (secure)]

Monoclonal antibodies for in-vivo use
Cytokines, growth factors, enzymes, immunomodulators; and thrombolytics
Proteins intended for therapeutic use that are extracted from animals or microorganisms, including recombinant versions of these products (except clotting factors)
Other non-vaccine therapeutic immunotherapies
 Quoting: Feistylorax


It was authorized today.
Its the same shot they used under EAU and now it has a new name comirnaty. Its physically the same shot but now approved and not under the EAU anymore. They are also allowed to use the vials that were manufactured under the EAU because it is the same shot.
 Quoting: AlphaWolf


It's approved as a BLA for over 16.
It is still under the EUA for 12-16.
It's on page 2 of the updates here.
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Re: Clot shot not authorized as a vaccine.
Where is your link showing them approving it under this use and not as a vaccine?

If they approved it as a Therapeutic Biologics Applications (BLA) then wouldn't the patient have to be diagnosed with some condition warranting the shot?

They can't just force everyone to get a BLA with no diagnosis of need.
 Quoting: Blenderizer


If it was not licensed as a vaccine then hypothetically the manufacturer can be sued, like any other drug.

Only vaccines are exempt.
 Quoting: Astra Planeta


It's how they licensed it. Here from their own source again.


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Re: Clot shot not authorized as a vaccine.
Where is your link showing them approving it under this use and not as a vaccine?

If they approved it as a Therapeutic Biologics Applications (BLA) then wouldn't the patient have to be diagnosed with some condition warranting the shot?

They can't just force everyone to get a BLA with no diagnosis of need.
 Quoting: Blenderizer


If it was not licensed as a vaccine then hypothetically the manufacturer can be sued, like any other drug.

Only vaccines are exempt.
 Quoting: Astra Planeta


Further, if a physician gives you the drug for an off label use, such as utilizes as a viral inhibitor instead of a BLA, you can sue said physician.

Can of worms.
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Re: Clot shot not authorized as a vaccine.
They Authorized it as a BLA

Per their own website that means it is not a vaccine.

[link to www.fda.gov (secure)]

Monoclonal antibodies for in-vivo use
Cytokines, growth factors, enzymes, immunomodulators; and thrombolytics
Proteins intended for therapeutic use that are extracted from animals or microorganisms, including recombinant versions of these products (except clotting factors)
Other non-vaccine therapeutic immunotherapies
 Quoting: Feistylorax


It was authorized today.
Its the same shot they used under EAU and now it has a new name comirnaty. Its physically the same shot but now approved and not under the EAU anymore. They are also allowed to use the vials that were manufactured under the EAU because it is the same shot.
 Quoting: AlphaWolf


Nope.

States clearly that Comirnasty has two different components, but doesn't state what they are, and that they are legally different though interchangeable.

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Re: Clot shot not authorized as a vaccine.
Maybe I'm wrong... reading more now.
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Re: Clot shot not authorized as a vaccine.
Nope. I'm wrong.
Sorry guys the wording was confusing.
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Re: Clot shot not authorized as a vaccine.
Another example of posting stupid shit before you even know what you're talking about.
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Re: Clot shot not authorized as a vaccine.
This part (3rd shot) definitely requires a doctor's diagnosis

This authorization also covers the use of the licensed COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) product when used to provide a two-dose regimen for individuals aged 12 through 15
years, or to provide a third dose to individuals 12 years of age or older who have undergone solid organ transplantation or who are diagnosed with conditions that are considered to have an equivalent level of immunocompromise.

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