UK employment vax blackmail - get the jab or you cant work here

Come on OP..come to the dark side..get the vax.

Life will be so much easier for you.

Why give yourself unwanted pressure and stress?

Do it for yourself..do if for your country..do it for the greater good.

Claim a religious exemption. Problem fixed.

give them a letter stating that in the event of adverse reactions you will hold them personally responsible. any time off work due to the vax and you will charge them and in the event of death they will be responsible and give them a breakdown of charges. upon death your next of kin will be benefited to the tune of £1 million. then ask for the director to sign it personally.

Time to get on the welfare doles and start a black market business.

I would suggest acquiring test kits from unsecure lorries.
The plebs need to prove their compliance.

interesting to know, im uk too, i think its vegan/religious/liability stuff which could in theory get you off with an exemption,

heck i wanted a medical check up, but local gps are gold now

Last Edited by mjsescapee on 09/02/2021 01:20 PM

Its none of their business if you are jabbed or not.

Stop putting up with this communism.

I did wonder what sort of proof would be asked for. I would have gone unnoticed as it went on assumed everyone had it without question.

Can't pull any religious cards, they know I just dont trust it and I want to see adverse reactions after at least year of it being in circulation as my reason.

Fake nhs numbers can be bought for 5k. Religion gets you out. Your partner could be unvaxxed and it does not matter. Absolutely ludicrous really.

Fixed!

Hi OP.

Is the healthcare that your company is involved with a 'Care Quality Commission (CQC) registered care home'?

And if so, do you ever enter the care home? if not, THEN YOU'RE EXEMPT!

Check this out link out....ACAS are actually a very helpful organisation (not union stuff either btw)

[link to www.acas.org.uk (secure)]

Umm..you took the death shot?

Can confirm
Your either jabbed or you cant work by this time next year

Yes.

Join workers of England union, they will sort it out

If not taking the vaccine is very important to you, ask yourself why. If its because of the internet horror stories you've read, then shrug it off. We can't let fear govern our lives, and a lot of it is fear mongering. Remaining rational is key. If its because of religious reasons, then rest assured its not the mark.

If youre avoiding the vaccine because of allergies, or just genuine concerns about how new it is, and you would rather wait, then thats different, and you should try to explain your stance to your employers, or get a medical exemption as soon as you can.

I know it all sucks, but hang in there. Good luck, and I hope it all works out for you

Still not had it. Still working from home. They plan to return to office one day a week around Nov or Dec time, to be confirmed.

They've not asked anything really since. I said I'd consider it more looking ahead. No formal paperwork saying I must have it either, only verbal communication highlighting the stuoid healthcare mandate for November.

Told HR I'd made an appointment to satisfy that I wasn't being difficult. My director did say searly on something weird about make a booking even if you cancel it to show you are doing something rather than just saying no. I found that odd.

I've not actually said I refuse, I word it thst I am not prepared to accept the offer of covid vaccination at the current time.

Nobody said anything since. They haven't asked for medical records or certification. It's literally an excel sheet saying jabbed and dates of staff.

Quite simply its not been 'out' long enough for me to justify taking the risk.

I'm of the age bracket whereby we are also told by the same media and government pushing vaccination that negative symptoms are the least dangerous to my group. I am fine with this.

So I am asking myself why would I prepare against something I am also told I'll effectively be okay when it comes, if it even comes?

And then the counter narrative is that people take the vax to protect others. Well by that logic, I'll selfishly skip it because someone else has taken it for me, no? Explain that crap statement because that sounds to me like a get out clause.

Yes, there are the usual hyperflated horror stories but there is also a lot of unknowns.

I have young kids under 7 and am a single parent weighing into it.

Unfair dismissal for not taking it is also unknown territory. It's all a very grey area.

Into November we ride on. The next concern is going into the office if it happens and them assuming I have been vaxxed and the issue I may have when they realise I am not and how I am punished.

No updated paperwork signed saying I must be vaxxed, for me that formality is needed for them to take any action. Also there has been no request for proof of vaccination of other staff who themselves could have lied too!

There has to be some exemption for sharing medical details with work, again there is no requirement to do so in my original employment contract.

Last Edited by AntonyMaussen on 10/19/2021 07:29 PM

Very helpful, thank you! Green given!

No Probs.. I'd really recommend a look at the ThreadReaderApp link.. it's well referenced and basically says your employer would be guilty of coercion on the threat of battery with regards to unlawful dismissal
IF
express evidence of denial of informed consent are rejected.

So

You MUST have evidence of your "denial of informed consent".
Then you MUST keep evidence of them rejecting that.

But even if they sign it, you'd have to get jabbed and you can't even be sure if you'll win in court. No amount of money is worth risking your life and soul for.

Record any meetings you have on your mobile phone, might help you get a big pay off if they fire you.

You are allowed to do this for your own records secretly, but not to show others, to jog your memory, etc.

Usually just mentioning you recorded it gets things to go your way and of course it can be used as criminal evidence should a crime be committed.

I had an earlier email from the director asking if I had been vaccinated yet and openly mocked me in writing and calling me a nonsense conspiracy theorist. That alone smells like a lawsuit cooking for dismissing my views and beliefs.

He said to read the science, and that they follow government guidelines and that is what their policy is based on, not some half baked internet fear.

The other director then sent me a link to a BBC article with 'the science'.

My verbal response in a video call a month after was that even in those 4 weeks, the narrative of the government changed and even the science folks admit they didnt know and got things wrong.

They are putting their eggs in one basket as gospel and using that to guide the workplace.

I am now working out if I can get penalised for going back when they do return and hoping they just assume I am vaccinated and forget it all.

I have signed no paperwork or formal request to do so, so in my view its on them. My fear is them sacking me with immediate effect for creating a risk because they have care home connections with 3 staff.

It's so ridiculous.

Last Edited by AntonyMaussen on 10/20/2021 08:01 AM

Tell him the Government guidelines say you should only drink 2 pints of beer a day max.

Ask if he has always followed those "guidelines" his entire life.

Guidelines are not law and wont help the company in a tribunal.

Life in the uk is over now as we knew it

OP - feel free to delete these posts if you want, but here is the REAL science:


SPIKE ALONE...