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Aviation technology: Supermarine Spitfire, built with 1,000 HP Merlin, upgraded to 1450, upgraded to the 2,000/Griffin, same weight

 
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I was an Aircraft Mechanic and worked on many radial engines but never had anything to do with the Pratt Whitney 4 row radial with 28 cylinders which I always thought was amazing. It was known as the Wasp.
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You can fly those planes when you play War Thunder online.
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It still trips me out that at one point Spitfire pilots were actually diving on V-1 rockets to get up enough speed to intercept them over the channel and flipping them off course with their wings. [link to www.wearethemighty.com (secure)]
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Re: Aviation technology: Supermarine Spitfire, built with 1,000 HP Merlin, upgraded to 1450, upgraded to the 2,000/Griffin, same weight
I was an Aircraft Mechanic and worked on many radial engines but never had anything to do with the Pratt Whitney 4 row radial with 28 cylinders which I always thought was amazing. It was known as the Wasp.
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The B36 Peacemaker, yes engineering excellence, but i think it had 7 rows which created air fin cooling problem for read cylinders. It's at the Reno Sir Show... and it's magnificent.

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Re: Aviation technology: Supermarine Spitfire, built with 1,000 HP Merlin, upgraded to 1450, upgraded to the 2,000/Griffin, same weight
It still trips me out that at one point Spitfire pilots were actually diving on V-1 rockets to get up enough speed to intercept them over the channel and flipping them off course with their wings. [link to www.wearethemighty.com (secure)]
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Hmmmm.... very strange info considering the Spitfires couldn't begin to match rocket speed, even from a standing start, let alone intercept. Good call out.

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It still trips me out that at one point Spitfire pilots were actually diving on V-1 rockets to get up enough speed to intercept them over the channel and flipping them off course with their wings. [link to www.wearethemighty.com (secure)]
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Hmmmm.... very strange info considering the Spitfires couldn't begin to match rocket speed, even from a standing start, let alone intercept. Good call out.

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Spitfire max 370mph, V1 flying bomb max 400mph. Interception from altitude would clearly be feasible.


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Re: Aviation technology: Supermarine Spitfire, built with 1,000 HP Merlin, upgraded to 1450, upgraded to the 2,000/Griffin, same weight
It still trips me out that at one point Spitfire pilots were actually diving on V-1 rockets to get up enough speed to intercept them over the channel and flipping them off course with their wings. [link to www.wearethemighty.com (secure)]
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It still trips me out that at one point Spitfire pilots were actually diving on V-1 rockets to get up enough speed to intercept them over the channel and flipping them off course with their wings. [link to www.wearethemighty.com (secure)]
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Hmmmm.... very strange info considering the Spitfires couldn't begin to match rocket speed, even from a standing start, let alone intercept. Good call out.

spock
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Spitfire max 370mph, V1 flying bomb max 400mph. Interception from altitude would clearly be feasible.


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Diving speed was way higher than that but to intercept the Germans would have to be good sports and phone in the rocket launch times.
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It still trips me out that at one point Spitfire pilots were actually diving on V-1 rockets to get up enough speed to intercept them over the channel and flipping them off course with their wings. [link to www.wearethemighty.com (secure)]
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Hmmmm.... very strange info considering the Spitfires couldn't begin to match rocket speed, even from a standing start, let alone intercept. Good call out.

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Spitfire max 370mph, V1 flying bomb max 400mph. Interception from altitude would clearly be feasible.


[link to www.bbc.com (secure)]
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Diving speed was way higher than that but to intercept the Germans would have to be good sports and phone in the rocket launch times.
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Not any more than any other flying German objects, the RAF had fighters in the air practically 24/7 watching for inbound huns by that point.
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Hmmmm.... very strange info considering the Spitfires couldn't begin to match rocket speed, even from a standing start, let alone intercept. Good call out.

spock
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Spitfire max 370mph, V1 flying bomb max 400mph. Interception from altitude would clearly be feasible.


[link to www.bbc.com (secure)]
 Quoting: DrGu


Diving speed was way higher than that but to intercept the Germans would have to be good sports and phone in the rocket launch times.
lurk
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Not any more than any other flying German objects, the RAF had fighters in the air practically 24/7 watching for inbound huns by that point.
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How did that work out?
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I love this kind of shit.
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Re: Aviation technology: Supermarine Spitfire, built with 1,000 HP Merlin, upgraded to 1450, upgraded to the 2,000/Griffin, same weight
I was an Aircraft Mechanic and worked on many radial engines but never had anything to do with the Pratt Whitney 4 row radial with 28 cylinders which I always thought was amazing. It was known as the Wasp.
 Quoting: Endtimewatchman10


The B36 Peacemaker, yes engineering excellence, but i think it had 7 rows which created air fin cooling problem for read cylinders. It's at the Reno Sir Show... and it's magnificent.
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Could you imagine the design and engineering to build an engine like that? I think I read that the 4 row radial weighed over 2000 pounds. I remember changing jugs on the R2800.
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Re: Aviation technology: Supermarine Spitfire, built with 1,000 HP Merlin, upgraded to 1450, upgraded to the 2,000/Griffin, same weight
I was an Aircraft Mechanic and worked on many radial engines but never had anything to do with the Pratt Whitney 4 row radial with 28 cylinders which I always thought was amazing. It was known as the Wasp.
 Quoting: Endtimewatchman10


The B36 Peacemaker, yes engineering excellence, but i think it had 7 rows which created air fin cooling problem for read cylinders. It's at the Reno Sir Show... and it's magnificent.
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Could you imagine the design and engineering to build an engine like that? I think I read that the 4 row radial weighed over 2000 pounds. I remember changing jugs on the R2800.
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I guess turboprops were quite an improvement. Some C47'S etc. have been converted.
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Re: Aviation technology: Supermarine Spitfire, built with 1,000 HP Merlin, upgraded to 1450, upgraded to the 2,000/Griffin, same weight
I was an Aircraft Mechanic and worked on many radial engines but never had anything to do with the Pratt Whitney 4 row radial with 28 cylinders which I always thought was amazing. It was known as the Wasp.
 Quoting: Endtimewatchman10


The B36 Peacemaker, yes engineering excellence, but i think it had 7 rows which created air fin cooling problem for read cylinders. It's at the Reno Sir Show... and it's magnificent.
 Quoting: DGN
Could you imagine the design and engineering to build an engine like that? I think I read that the 4 row radial weighed over 2000 pounds. I remember changing jugs on the R2800.
 Quoting: Endtimewatchman10


27 spiral cylinders in perfect alignment, actually no Really cant imagine the blueprints.
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Re: Aviation technology: Supermarine Spitfire, built with 1,000 HP Merlin, upgraded to 1450, upgraded to the 2,000/Griffin, same weight
We smacked Hitler's bum with it 5a
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We smacked Hitler's bum with it 5a
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Actually it was more with the P51s which carried enough fuel to escort the bombers deep enough to destroy Hitler's weapon factories which had zero beneficial use on earth.
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I was an Aircraft Mechanic and worked on many radial engines but never had anything to do with the Pratt Whitney 4 row radial with 28 cylinders which I always thought was amazing. It was known as the Wasp.
 Quoting: Endtimewatchman10


The B36 Peacemaker, yes engineering excellence, but i think it had 7 rows which created air fin cooling problem for read cylinders. It's at the Reno Sir Show... and it's magnificent.
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Overpowered airframes are not always ideal.


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Re: Aviation technology: Supermarine Spitfire, built with 1,000 HP Merlin, upgraded to 1450, upgraded to the 2,000/Griffin, same weight
Engine technology is amazing. Even in cars now, direct injection turbos per volume and weight can roast older cars.


Now don't get me wrong, there is no substitute for classic American muscle but in terms of technology, engine tech advancements have always been and continue to be amazing.
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It still trips me out that at one point Spitfire pilots were actually diving on V-1 rockets to get up enough speed to intercept them over the channel and flipping them off course with their wings. [link to www.wearethemighty.com (secure)]
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Hmmmm.... very strange info considering the Spitfires couldn't begin to match rocket speed, even from a standing start, let alone intercept. Good call out.

spock
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They weren't rockets, those were the V-2's. The V-1 had a pulse jet engine. They were the original cruise missile.

They were not easy to down. If you shot at them the warhead was big enough to take you out too. That's why they developed the tactic of "tipping" them.
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