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Why are some of us not affected by the "government programming" and propaganda

 
Kagnimir
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because we learned at an early age not to care what other people think of us and let that guide our decisions.

Most do not participate in social media because we know it's all garbage for the mind.
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Yeah, this!!! It's the people who don't care about other people's opinions! I never did. When you care about what other people think, you try to keep up with what everybody else is following. I've spent a total of a few days of my life actively using "social" media and that was over 13 years ago.
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Re: Why are some of us not affected by the "government programming" and propaganda
Normal human children are "socialized", which means they learn to adapt to the surrounding social pressure, internalizing the norms and behaviors of the group.

Some children have some form of development disorder that makes them unable to mold themselves to fit the society they grow up in. They start to think and analyze and make up their own minds about everything, because they have to - there is no default programming for them to follow.

We are the ones suffering from this development disorder.
 Quoting: The Lazy Monk

This is true.
I was bullied during all my school years. Now i understand that it really was my own fault for being a idiot who did not want to fit in with the herd.

We humans have evolved to follow the flock.
One does not need to think very deeply to understand the biological advantages of individuals in the flock acting in the same manner.

But it is not all bad, people like us is, and always has been needed. Sometimes, a great man rises up. Like Jesus Christ, who directly influence the entire flock into his own dogma.

It is all about strength of character. Even though Jesus managed to change the western world from might makes right to what we have now. He was still murdered by the flock for it.

I think you should not reject the flock and become a pariah.
Instead synthesize, merge both your ability to ignore, and follow, into something new and truly strong.

I think all mighty leaders trough-out history managed to do this synthesis in some way, they did not reject the flock, they took control of it and formed it into their own idea.
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I sometimes believe it is about the path of exploration. Maybe quantified as the extrovert and the introvert. How much a person self reflects and questions the world/reality around them.

IMO, the extrovert doesn't question and is a follower of social norms. They rely on others to create their reality and then follow along with the crowd. They need to be constantly surrounded by like minded people to cure the itch of quietness and reflection. They are the ones to seek power and control. To define themselves by the material world ... the external. These are the people that seek positions of power because they rely on the opinions of others to create their badge of identity.

Then you have the introverts. The ones that do challenge the itch of boredom and loneliness because they view it as a tool to grow and become more than they currently are. They don't seek the approval of others to define who they are ... to define their reality. They are the ones capable of critical thought and judge both sides of an issue with simple logic. They don't rely on herd mentality.


The introverts are a threat to the extroverts and the extroverts are a threat to the introverts. The extroverts must create a uniform society to make themselves feel safe and rational, no matter how irrational the ideology of that environment truly is.
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I agree with the post above, except that I would take it a step further and say that introverts are by nature more visionary, more creative, and therefore more capable of changing the world in order to make the world adapt to the introvert. Whereas the extrovert tends to be more short-sighted and more reacting to surface presentation.

The book "Psychological Types" by Carl G. Jung has a lot of great in-depth info and analysis of historical persons through the lens of introversion and extroversion.
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When my children were growing up, we did not have cable programming. We did not have basic television programming either. We had a DVD player and that was it.

My children did not have cell phones or access to the internet, unless it was for schoolwork, and it was supervised.

My children were exposed to history fiercely and knew who Hitler, Stalin, and Mao were, and how people can become "brainwashed" by propaganda.

We read 1984, Brave New World, Fahrenheit 151, and The Giver together and regularly discussed each.

They were taught to respect firearms at an early age, and they all own weapons at this point and visit regularly to practice on the range we have out back.

They stood by me while I fought as a Ron Paul delegate at the 2012 National Convention. They've heard me scream. They've watched me cry.

When they grew up, each moved and headed for cities.

There is where I lost them.

I learned yesterday that my three girls have submitted and are now "vaccinated." My son is the only one left who has not.

My youngest even iterated that she believes that people should be physically forced.

It's a sad day for this Mom. I have no idea where I went wrong, but I have failed.
 Quoting: Dirck de Noorman


I think every person/being/entity has its own ways completely apart from the family they've been born into. I believe that every entity has its own ways and experiences they have to or want to go through, experiences which indeed can have connections to karmic-things from another life/experience.
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I believe this too, which is why I tried so hard to expose their sovereign souls to as much as I possibly could, both the good and evils of humanity, and how through fear and superstition people are controlled.

We even visited Salam and burned that into their minds.

I don't know, but it sure is scary that there are forces out there so evil and so compelling that it can undo years of parent-child programming in such a short time.

It's very difficult for me to wrap my mind around.

However, I used to attend college classes with my mother when I was a very young child. I was interested and her instructors allowed it. She was pursuing a degree in pyschology.

This was back in the 70s and I remember distinctly it being taught that subliminal messaging and propaganda was being used to control the minds of the public.

That was close to 50 years ago and, apparently, they've perfected their methods and are hijacking the minds of our young, whose brains don't stop developing until somewhere around 25.

They're still vulnerable after they leave the nest and the government preys on them like vultures.
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I don't drink fluoride and have always questioned everything since I was a child, to the annoyance of my family and teachers.


This is me as well. I annoyed my parents so much with all my big questions that they couldn’t answer. I have always questioned everything.
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When my children were growing up, we did not have cable programming. We did not have basic television programming either. We had a DVD player and that was it.

My children did not have cell phones or access to the internet, unless it was for schoolwork, and it was supervised.

My children were exposed to history fiercely and knew who Hitler, Stalin, and Mao were, and how people can become "brainwashed" by propaganda.

We read 1984, Brave New World, Fahrenheit 451, and The Giver together and regularly discussed each.

They were taught to respect firearms at an early age, and they all own weapons at this point and visit regularly to practice on the range we have out back.

They stood by me while I fought as a Ron Paul delegate at the 2012 National Convention. They've heard me scream. They've watched me cry.

When they grew up, each moved and headed for cities.

There is where I lost them.

I learned yesterday that my three girls have submitted and are now "vaccinated." My son is the only one left who has not.

My youngest even iterated that she believes that people should be physically forced.

It's a sad day for this Mom. I have no idea where I went wrong, but I have failed.
 Quoting: Dirck de Noorman




at some point adult children make a choice to follow what their parents taught them, if it is not mainstream -

or join in what their age cohorts are doing.

they almost all choose their age group's beliefs.
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I've been awake to it my whole life. And I don't watch TV. Haven't even had one plugged in for over 8 years. I used to check the local weather, living in SWFL. Hurricane Charley went right up my backside, so for hurricane season and Frasier re-runs. Until I got a better computer and watched everything online.

When you know the programming and see it coming a mile away, it's essentially and immediately non-existent to you in your real life.
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The programmable are easily lulled. Those of us not easily lulled, disdain of those that are.
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Ive always wondered that also
something wired differently in us
i figure and there brain washing
do not work on us just a guess
gotta have some tolerance in everything
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Re: Why are some of us not affected by the "government programming" and propaganda
Normal human children are "socialized", which means they learn to adapt to the surrounding social pressure, internalizing the norms and behaviors of the group.

Some children have some form of development disorder that makes them unable to mold themselves to fit the society they grow up in. They start to think and analyze and make up their own minds about everything, because they have to - there is no default programming for them to follow.

We are the ones suffering from this development disorder.
 Quoting: The Lazy Monk


Blessing in disguise?
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I'm vaccinated... from bullshit. Think Terminator movies. It's coming.
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Yet, many of you have State issued birth certificates and S.S.N. Slave Surveillance Numbers. lmao

If you have children, you'll enslave them into this system as well. Now who has been conditioned by the propaganda? lol


Do you want to talk about mind fuckery? 1rof1
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It has been proven decades ago that about half the population cannot form independent abstract opinions. Instead they take the opinions propagated by their institutions (family, church, school, government, etc).

It is believed to be genetic.
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It has been proven decades ago that about half the population cannot form independent abstract opinions. Instead they take the opinions propagated by their institutions (family, church, school, government, etc).

It is believed to be genetic.
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spock
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How many of us are unable to be hypnotized? I found out in college that no one could "hypnotize" me in a psych class.

And I did want to be hypnotized.
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How many of us are unable to be hypnotized? I found out in college that no one could "hypnotize" me in a psych class.

And I did want to be hypnotized.
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Those sentences above are not your thoughts.
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Logic.
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It has been proven decades ago that about half the population cannot form independent abstract opinions. Instead they take the opinions propagated by their institutions (family, church, school, government, etc).

It is believed to be genetic.
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spock
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This is widely known in psychology and sociology. In academia it's often insinuated that conservative folks tend to be incapable of independent abstract thought.

Obviously, I believe it's the other way around, though of course there will be all types of political leanings amongst this group.
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Majority of people have no self esteem. Maybe because they have damaged or weak souls. They look outside of themselves for self verification to make themselves feel 'worthy'. Once they find a group, or environment, that gives approval they are hooked and will parrot whatever is needful to keep that acceptance. The group becomes a self feeding virtue loop. They don't dare let anyone or anything pop this bubble, because it would destroy the feelings of self worth. So, they spend more and more energy trying to keep the bubble in place. It eventually become an energy vacuum with no creative thought or innovation. Sad waste of the God given Life we are blessed with.
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From reading the answers it seems the only consistent answer so far is that we are all thinkers and ask questions. But why?


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Yes, as a kid I have seen really smart people and really stupid people.

I knew I didn't want to emulate a stupid, boring, drunken fool who went begging for money all the time.

I would rather be inquisitive, everything can be fascinating.
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Except for three on that list, I could be you. But with a uterus.


I don't drink fluoride and have always questioned everything since I was a child, to the annoyance of my family and teachers.

I try to eat a decent diet but sometimes do eat fast food.

I plant a lot of trees and plants.

I was a scout.

They messed with my head when I was a kid through High School.

I read a lot of books and always had a book nearby when I was younger.

I have an exceptionally high IQ and graduated 11th out of 400-something students.

I did not complete college.

My father and brothers were all in Military Intelligence positions.

I believe in G-d, and my spiritual journey involved a lot of questions and experimentation. It took years to hash out my religious feelings.

I surround myself with animals.

I trust nothing.

Lies of others make me sick. Deception makes me queasy. I can not watch television programs with a lot of deception.

I try to be gray and blend in with people of all political spectrums.

I was a senate page at one time.

I see Math and Music in everything and have studied ancient history in depth.

I was hated by just about everyone my entire life.

I was bullied by just about everyone my entire life.

I was beaten and abused by everyone I trusted my entire life.

I don't think everyone out there is multi-dimensional and think of them as empty.

When I was younger, older people always fell in love with me, and the attention was incredible. I have known a few famous people and my life has intersected with some incredible souls.

I was a protester and protested for Gay rights, the environment, the ocean, pot rights, anti-discrimination, and freedom. I'm pissed that all of these things have been adulterated and skewed by hedonists and assholes. That is NOT what we all were fighting for.

I participated in gifted clubs, classes, and programs from kindergarten on and was removed from class for weird things throughout school. My school file disappeared the week before I graduated. I was in National Honor Society and graduated with chords, a gold tassel, and awards.

I used to help teach classes for my teachers in school.

I have zero relationships with my siblings or parents, though I send my parents food all the time so they don't starve to death during this pandemic.

I have been dirt poor in the past but now we're extremely comfortable. We built our lives from nothing.

School was easy and all homework was done on the bus on the way to school. I'm a procrastinator though I made excellent grades. I have never studied for a test.

I am terrified of riding in a car, am agoraphobic, and have bipolar 2.

I hate people and want to be left alone. Most of them seem stupid to me.

I collect knives and tea bowls.

Every thing I wrote above is 100% truth, as I can not stomach any kind of a lie and therefore, people hate me for not faking and going along. I know I used the word I a lot but this whole thing is so people can compare and come to a scientific conclusion.
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The wheat and the chaff.

There is a higher power those that know that instinctually also know when they are fed truth and lies because they can tap into something beyond the material realm.
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Its telling that the responses are overwhelmingly ACs, and make little references to Satans church or his Empire, what some call Yudeo-Christianity and America respectively.

The blue names are people posting scripts on behalf of an organisation, or someone unknowingly regurgitating said scripts from other controlled sources.
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... those not affected by the "programming" don't lie to themselves? ...
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"strong delusion"
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I doubt there is a single right answer.

Many of the followers of failed leftist dogmas are simply stupid--low IQ, but that does not cover all circumstances. Many are so indoctrinated by communist "professors" that they cannot listen to another point of view--otherwise intelligent people that cannot accept an opposing view. There must be countless millions that suffer from a common human trait of not being able to face the reality they have been fooled/suckered. They can see that there is fraud, but cannot force themselves to openly admit it.

CNN is not populated by retards, a few there no doubt. Such organizations are controlled by intelligent traitors. They know the truth but consistently lie to create the socialist utopia--or whatever it is they really want. Disseminating information and truth//actual events has nothing to do with the MO of such organizations. They are consciously presenting propaganda.

Freedom of information flow is the most critical element in the big picture. Organizations such as Facebook represent pure evil and should be shutdown as they only allow for leftist propaganda and silence all others--it is as anti American as J Stalin was--if not more so.
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It is a certain type of mind that questions things that has any chance of not being brainwashed. People think that using your brain means doing good in school but most people that get college degrees are the most brainwashed. It's not studying books that are filled with propaganda, it's reading between the lines.
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I asked questions constantly as a child. I was ridiculed by my father and his brothers, beaten a few times at a very young age "for asking too many stupid questions", but that never stopped me. To me, knowledge was worth the pain.

I was bounced from one halfway house to another from 13 to 15. My mom didn't want me around and my dad was a narcissistic pervert.

I dropped out of high-school in my Jr year and got my GED. I had already been living on my own since I was 15.

I worked at a fast food restaurant and Big Lots, I also had a part time gig as a stocker at Walmart if they needed help.

A local farmer took me under his wing. I worked my ass off for him bailing hay, running fences, feeding and taking care of cattle, setting, cutting and stripping tobacco etc. In return he fed me and taught me things about life.

I lived in a very rural town, grew up outdoors hunting and fishing. I did that just to quiet my mind and feed myself, plus I love nature.

I joined the Army and married that farmers daughter. We lived in Germany for 3 years the divorced because she missed home.

I got out of the Army and tried my hand at college, but I couldn't take it. It all seemed like such a waste of time and money.

I welded for a while, worked in forging factories and auto manufacturers, welding robot maintenance etc. I was naturally mechanically inclined since I was born.

I was diagnosed with bipolar 2, it answered a lot of questions I had about myself.

Then I started working with computers and it stuck. It was logical, it made sense, it fit my mind. Now I'm a mildly successful IT guy in a very specialized field with a pretty comfortable life.

I can't stand a liar, a half ass or a lazy person, never could.

It may sound silly, but my papaw said something that stuck with me.

I was about 6 or 7, I saw a man in a local store with really shiny shoes. I pointed them out to my papaw and he said, "son, he probably wipes half his ass too, look at the back of his shoes." When I looked, it looked like he had shined the back of his shoe with a Hershey bar.

That one small endeavor has served me well all my life.

Anyway, I've always been a free thinker and I've paid dearly for it at times in my life because one of the things that come with having bipolar 2 is not having a filter about what you think and/or say.

Last Edited by Boiling Frog on 09/11/2021 04:41 PM
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I've always wondered how there is a very distinct group of people that are not susceptible to all of the bullshit thrown at them by the people trying to "program" us and are immune to the constant propaganda being thrown at us.

It is obvious to me that they hate everyone in that group and they are "at war" with this specific group of people.
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Drugs at a young age. Mostly weed.

The brain damaged cannot be programmed....
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I've always wondered how there is a very distinct group of people that are not susceptible to all of the bullshit thrown at them by the people trying to "program" us and are immune to the constant propaganda being thrown at us.

It is obvious to me that they hate everyone in that group and they are "at war" with this specific group of people.
 Quoting: Boiling Frog



Drugs at a young age. Mostly weed.

The brain damaged cannot be programmed....
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Funny, I never did any drugs....
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Because as a young child I contracted a deadly staph infection and did not qualify for any medical aid. My mom cleaned out her 401K to pay the bills.

I was very lucky in that I did not die or have to go on dialysis as has happened to many other young people.

We were destitute. Had to rely on relatives and I often went hungry at school as I was too ashamed to say "free lunch" in front of my friends.

I know what it's like to be hungry in this country.

If the government didn't care about me then, they sure as hell don't care about me today.

People need to wake up.
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I didn't go to college, and I'm saved. I also study how things work.





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