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Cumbre Vieja volcano ongoing eruption! Massive river of lava ! pg 1433

 
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Could you survive this by going up a skyscraper
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Depends on the architecture of the building...where it
positioned in the line-up of other buildings in front of it
...lots of variables.

I wouldn't bet my life on a building. I'd just get out of
the way! lol!

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Could you survive this by going up a skyscraper
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Depends on the architecture of the building...where it
positioned in the line-up of other buildings in front of it
...lots of variables.

I wouldn't bet my life on a building. I'd just get out of
the way! lol!

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this...especially if it's on the immediate coast...the initial wave won't just be water..it'll be debris and that will decimate most structures at point of impact.
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It’s important to remember this particular volcano has erupted many times throughout recorded history, with the latest being in 1971 (and 1949 prior to that). Just because the volcano may blow does not mean the entire island is going to break off. And if the island did break off, which is unlikely, it may not even cause the massive waves that are possible but not guaranteed. Take some deep breaths and pray. Just last December people were worried about this scenario but nothing came of it. With that being said, I have had a bad feeling about this for some time. If you live in the danger zone, pay close attention and have a reliable escape route. Make friends with some pilots.
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It’s important to remember this particular volcano has erupted many times throughout recorded history, with the latest being in 1971 (and 1949 prior to that). Just because the volcano may blow does not mean the entire island is going to break off. And if the island did break off, which is unlikely, it may not even cause the massive waves that are possible but not guaranteed. Take some deep breaths and pray. Just last December people were worried about this scenario but nothing came of it. With that being said, I have had a bad feeling about this for some time. If you live in the danger zone, pay close attention and have a reliable escape route. Make friends with some pilots.
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not for nothing but given the events of the last two years...we can't and shouldn't discount the possibility of anything. it's best for those on the coast to be prepared just in case. I'd rather have a gun and not need it then need it and not have it
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here we go

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She could also pop without fracturing… and then a week later fracture.

Unpredictable

If there are any alerts for your phone I would subscribe and be very ready just in case. But then again you should always be ready for that thief in the night.

Especially when it’s a mountain on fire..
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Finally updated seismogram
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S Waves....Definitely magma
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I'm like 10 ft above sea level on the east coast of Florida lol

Okay so I don't get too later , bye
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Previous eruptions were effusive in nature.Just lava coming out of vents.And it created instability and visible crack along Cumbre Vieja volcanic ridge .Best scenario is nothing happening but with these quakes non stop eruption risk is rising every day.
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Previous eruptions were effusive in nature.Just lava coming out of vents.And it created instability and visible crack along Cumbre Vieja volcanic ridge .Best scenario is nothing happening but with these quakes non stop eruption risk is rising every day.
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agreed and the more magma filling that chamber the bigger the chance for a seriously explosive eruption is that right?
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I have a problem with some of these estimates of
The tsunami that would hit the east coast
The kinetic energy would dissipate over the distance and spread over the Atlantic basin
Plus the opposing currents would act like speed bumps...
 Quoting: Apocalypse now


Here is an accountant, with some knowledge of physics. Just a guess, but according to the rules of fluid dynamics a wave in the ocean must have a laminar flow effect, with turbulence only in the region of contact with the ground, and therefore must preserve the momentum.... this would explain why the wave does not dissipate until it collides with something solid.
You know those ball pendulums? Newton's pendulum.
And do you know that example of dominoes lined up from a normal size to one the size of a building? A tsunami is like this, the energy is already accumulated in the liquid, so it only takes a little push to release it.
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The moon and Saturn conjoin on 9/16. 9/17 the moon and Jupiter.. CME to impact the earth then.. the great rod is still limp today for large earthquakes but ya never know lol. .. we will just have to wait and see.. Great thread!!5a

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Could you survive this by going up a skyscraper
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Depends on the architecture of the building...where it
positioned in the line-up of other buildings in front of it
...lots of variables.

I wouldn't bet my life on a building. I'd just get out of
the way! lol!

cheers
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Some Yes.
Some No.

IF the tsunami is large any skyscraper built on Sand or a "Floating Foundation" probably will not survive the side forces that a very large tsunami will place on it. If the building is anchored into bedrock it has a much better chance of surviving.

To see how unstable skyscrapers built on a floating foundation are just google San Francisco's "Millennium Tower" ... that floating foundation skyscraper was already leaning about 22 inches to one side, and it hadn't been hit yet with an earthquake!! (the repair work just started ... and over the last few weeks has caused it to sink another inch on one side and to lean another 5" at it's top)
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Finally updated seismogram
 Quoting: Mister Pillarr


S Waves....Definitely magma
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You are welcomed in this thread .I was wrong about you derailing thread.Except for one troll who doesn't believe in existence of quakes people here are very kind and clever :)
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Previous eruptions were effusive in nature.Just lava coming out of vents.And it created instability and visible crack along Cumbre Vieja volcanic ridge .Best scenario is nothing happening but with these quakes non stop eruption risk is rising every day.
 Quoting: Mister Pillarr


agreed and the more magma filling that chamber the bigger the chance for a seriously explosive eruption is that right?
 Quoting: Disenfranchised Godzilla1980


Yes that's right.And also quakes create more fractures in the Island of La Palma
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Previous eruptions were effusive in nature.Just lava coming out of vents.And it created instability and visible crack along Cumbre Vieja volcanic ridge .Best scenario is nothing happening but with these quakes non stop eruption risk is rising every day.
 Quoting: Mister Pillarr


agreed and the more magma filling that chamber the bigger the chance for a seriously explosive eruption is that right?
 Quoting: Disenfranchised Godzilla1980


Yes that's right.And also quakes create more fractures in the Island of La Palma
 Quoting: Mister Pillarr


is that kinda like the Chernobyl second explosion theory where the "lava" hitting water would cause the thermal explosion because of the instant super heating?
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Whats the best case worst case scenario for the east coast guys
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Sharknado for realz!

Cape Cod will be inundated with Great White sharks swimming through its main streets!

Woooooooo Hoooooooooo!!

Sharknado BaaaaaBbbbyy!!
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And also the back yards of the crooked Elites like Obama in Martha's Vineyard and the Hamptons.

Great white sharks eating...ingrate black, white and brown sharks.
Now that's a very satisfying picture of poetic doom.

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Previous eruptions were effusive in nature.Just lava coming out of vents.And it created instability and visible crack along Cumbre Vieja volcanic ridge .Best scenario is nothing happening but with these quakes non stop eruption risk is rising every day.
 Quoting: Mister Pillarr


agreed and the more magma filling that chamber the bigger the chance for a seriously explosive eruption is that right?
 Quoting: Disenfranchised Godzilla1980


Yes that's right.And also quakes create more fractures in the Island of La Palma
 Quoting: Mister Pillarr


is that kinda like the Chernobyl second explosion theory where the "lava" hitting water would cause the thermal explosion because of the instant super heating?
 Quoting: Disenfranchised Godzilla1980


The problem is with deformation ,the terrain inflates .Imagine something pushing the terrain upward and being hot mass.If lava mixes with water then we have very serious eruption .But deformation itself can cause troubles sliding the part of island to the water
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Finally updated seismogram
 Quoting: Mister Pillarr


S Waves....Definitely magma
 Quoting: FeedYourHead


You are welcomed in this thread .I was wrong about you derailing thread.Except for one troll who doesn't believe in existence of quakes people here are very kind and clever :)
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Yeah but I was wrong as well in dismissing what was happening.

This is fascinating to watch. Hopefully it will not go to the explosive point, I think that would produce the worst case scenario as far as deformation and possible collapse into the sea but who knows.

The deformation has been happening for some time and it's getting worse. The sad thing about LaPalma is it is much like Yellowstone. It's not a case of if but a case of when.
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10's of millions of people on earth would be wiped out in a matter of some hours. The sad part about it is that the majority of those people are on social media discussing the most mundane and idiotic topics, or watching sports and tv shows in blissful ignorance...smh hiding
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Finally updated seismogram
 Quoting: Mister Pillarr


S Waves....Definitely magma
 Quoting: FeedYourHead


You are welcomed in this thread .I was wrong about you derailing thread.Except for one troll who doesn't believe in existence of quakes people here are very kind and clever :)
 Quoting: Mister Pillarr


Yeah but I was wrong as well in dismissing what was happening.

This is fascinating to watch. Hopefully it will not go to the explosive point, I think that would produce the worst case scenario as far as deformation and possible collapse into the sea but who knows.

The deformation has been happening for some time and it's getting worse. The sad thing about LaPalma is it is much like Yellowstone. It's not a case of if but a case of when.
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yeah, unfortunately there really isn't anything we can do to prevent this from happening, this is in God's hands now
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agreed and the more magma filling that chamber the bigger the chance for a seriously explosive eruption is that right?
 Quoting: Disenfranchised Godzilla1980


Yes that's right.And also quakes create more fractures in the Island of La Palma
 Quoting: Mister Pillarr


is that kinda like the Chernobyl second explosion theory where the "lava" hitting water would cause the thermal explosion because of the instant super heating?
 Quoting: Disenfranchised Godzilla1980


The problem is with deformation ,the terrain inflates .Imagine something pushing the terrain upward and being hot mass.If lava mixes with water then we have very serious eruption .But deformation itself can cause troubles sliding the part of island to the water
 Quoting: Mister Pillarr


so if it where to slide like Mt St Helens would that cause a significant tsunami or we talking about a landslide that would make that pale in comparison?
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Yes that's right.And also quakes create more fractures in the Island of La Palma
 Quoting: Mister Pillarr


is that kinda like the Chernobyl second explosion theory where the "lava" hitting water would cause the thermal explosion because of the instant super heating?
 Quoting: Disenfranchised Godzilla1980


The problem is with deformation ,the terrain inflates .Imagine something pushing the terrain upward and being hot mass.If lava mixes with water then we have very serious eruption .But deformation itself can cause troubles sliding the part of island to the water
 Quoting: Mister Pillarr


so if it where to slide like Mt St Helens would that cause a significant tsunami or we talking about a landslide that would make that pale in comparison?
 Quoting: Disenfranchised Godzilla1980


Land mass size of Manhattan would slide to water in worst case scenario .I don't know how big was land mass of Mt St Helens landslide (I know it was huge landslide one the biggest )
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Whats the best case worst case scenario for the east coast guys
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Sharknado for realz!

Cape Cod will be inundated with Great White sharks swimming through its main streets!

Woooooooo Hoooooooooo!!

Sharknado BaaaaaBbbbyy!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79652789

And also the back yards of the crooked Elites like Obama in Martha's Vineyard and the Hamptons.

Great white sharks eating...ingrate black, white and brown sharks.
Now that's a very satisfying picture of poetic doom.
 Quoting: TerraFirma's Esoterrorist


Yeah but if they won't be there, then why celebrate???verysad
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Do you remember a few years ago, Bashar Al Assad making an unscheduled stop on La Palma?

Rumor has it that he gave thanks and kissed the ground.
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I have a problem with some of these estimates of
The tsunami that would hit the east coast
The kinetic energy would dissipate over the distance and spread over the Atlantic basin
Plus the opposing currents would act like speed bumps...
 Quoting: Apocalypse now


Here is an accountant, with some knowledge of physics. Just a guess, but according to the rules of fluid dynamics a wave in the ocean must have a laminar flow effect, with turbulence only in the region of contact with the ground, and therefore must preserve the momentum.... this would explain why the wave does not dissipate until it collides with something solid.
You know those ball pendulums? Newton's pendulum.
And do you know that example of dominoes lined up from a normal size to one the size of a building? A tsunami is like this, the energy is already accumulated in the liquid, so it only takes a little push to release it.
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Doesn't work that way in the ocean. tsunami wave will spread out and decrease in intensity
But locally it will be devastating..
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Any nuclear power plants to worry about on the east coast of Africa or in southern Europe?
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I'm like 10 ft above sea level on the east coast of Florida lol

Okay so I don't get too later , bye
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Go WEST, good Sir!
Charter a fishing boat and hide way out in the Gulf of Mexico with the entire Florida Peninsula as your own personal Great Barrier Reef.
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Updated seismogram
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When the tremors stop suddenly we have to worry...that's what the geologist said, right?

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