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Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :)

 
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boring for a really big tsunami you need a meteor
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A couple of years ago, when LaPalma was active, someone somewhere put out a video that simulated the tsunami from this event ... how it would affect the East Coast, and how far up in elevation one needed to be to escape the worst of it.

Does anyone remember this video and where to find it? I'm in the foothills of North Carolina, about 1600 ft above sea level - is that high up enough and far inland enough?
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I'm not sure how far inland it'll go, and will be safe to be, but my understanding is the initial wave created at the impact site would be 15,000ft high, but by the time it travels to the US East Coast, it'll have diminished to about 150' high.

While that is a drastic decrease, 150' high is still a mega tsunami and will destroy and kill a lot in its path once it hits land.

If you're 1,600ft above sea level, you should be good. STILL......it doesn't hurt to have a contingency plan and a bag ready to go just in case!!
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Nice information - thank you!
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Complete article about the oceanic propagation of a potential tsunami from the La Palma Island

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Thank you for the link. Opened in another tab and reading ...
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How big of a tsunami? How far inland on the east coast?
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Based on the estimate/s that I have heard, about 12 miles, but there are so many factors mostly based on region and elevation of that particular region.

It's very hard to predict without knowing all the factors, especially volume.
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A couple of years ago, when LaPalma was active, someone somewhere put out a video that simulated the tsunami from this event ... how it would affect the East Coast, and how far up in elevation one needed to be to escape the worst of it.

Does anyone remember this video and where to find it? I'm in the foothills of North Carolina, about 1600 ft above sea level - is that high up enough and far inland enough?
 Quoting: OnTheFence


I think you need to be 200 Feet above sea level that video you speak of is posted on the first couple of pages in this thread but I have a link.
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The age of the video looks about right ... opened in another tab and waiting for it to load (f'ing Hughesnet internet). Thank you!
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A couple of years ago, when LaPalma was active, someone somewhere put out a video that simulated the tsunami from this event ... how it would affect the East Coast, and how far up in elevation one needed to be to escape the worst of it.

Does anyone remember this video and where to find it? I'm in the foothills of North Carolina, about 1600 ft above sea level - is that high up enough and far inland enough?
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Yes
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A couple of years ago, when LaPalma was active, someone somewhere put out a video that simulated the tsunami from this event ... how it would affect the East Coast, and how far up in elevation one needed to be to escape the worst of it.

Does anyone remember this video and where to find it? I'm in the foothills of North Carolina, about 1600 ft above sea level - is that high up enough and far inland enough?
 Quoting: OnTheFence


I'm not sure how far inland it'll go, and will be safe to be, but my understanding is the initial wave created at the impact site would be 15,000ft high, but by the time it travels to the US East Coast, it'll have diminished to about 150' high.

While that is a drastic decrease, 150' high is still a mega tsunami and will destroy and kill a lot in its path once it hits land.

If you're 1,600ft above sea level, you should be good. STILL......it doesn't hurt to have a contingency plan and a bag ready to go just in case!!
 Quoting: Domari Nolo


Just grab a cooler full of beer and stand on that.

That gives you about 1.25 feet of wiggle room.
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It’s behind. But still good


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what size tsunami are we talking?
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depends on the model:

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I've gone onto the USGS site and noticed there hasn't been any activity at Las Palma for the past few days. Is that site wonky or is the quakes too slight for it to pick up.
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I have a gut feeling we may see an East Coast tsunami very soon.
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Latest earthquake

Magnitude 3.0 at the depth 9 km


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 Quoting: Mister Pillarr


Mount Saint Helens volcano in Washington State erupted
in May 1980--I WAS THERE--erupted after a 3.0 pt. quake.
Vancouver, WA could see the eruption cloud from way down
there--it had its own weather and created a HUGE landslide
destroying 1/2 the side of that mountain.


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Mt. Saint Helens volcanic eruption 1980. My family
watched this jaw-dropping event from a hillside in
Vancouver, WA. It made its own weather and collapsed
the whole side of its volcano in only minutes.

3.0 pt. doesn't sound that big, but with volcanos it
can be significant.

Diamond in fact, states clearly "This is a significant
event" in his video. I really suggest you want to watch
his video:


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Diamond published this video on the SIGNIFICANT EVENT
and global warning of tsunami threat yesterday 9-13-2021.
Covers the current quake swarm and the info about the
possible tsunami predicting 40 million dead if there is an
eruption/volcano collapse.

Let's pray this doesn't happen.

cheers
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"Because the hook brings you ba-a-ack, I ain't telling you no lies"...is the East Coast toast yet? No, it seems. Waiting to buy Newfoundland for 40 Ag ounces.
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I've gone onto the USGS site and noticed there hasn't been any activity at Las Palma for the past few days. Is that site wonky or is the quakes too slight for it to pick up.
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International quakes under 3.5 or 4.0 (can't recall which) aren't recorded on the USGS
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Too many quakes right now to post it .Latest was 2.7 at 8 km depth

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They're every 1-3 minutes now.
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Like watching the labor pains of a woman. Reminds me of timing contractions.
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So the resulting tsunami will be the proverbial "water breaking" event? Prepare for "Delivery", children of The Most High!
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pffft-spitsmoke
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La Palma volcano (Canary Islands): likelihood of new volcanic eruption increases

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People need to keep in mind that with Mount St. Helens it was rumbling for several weeks before one strong quake dislodged the side of the mountain and it blew out sideways.

Similar historical reports exist for both Krakatoa and Tambora in what is now Indonesia (Tambora believed to be the largest reuption in the last 2000 or so years).

Ditto for Mt. Pinatubo in the Phillipeans, which is the largest or second largest eruption since Tambora.

In other words do NOT expect a MAJOR event IMMEDIATELY on LaPalma. It needs to fester and build up a "head of steam" so to speak before it will do anything serious.

How long?

Based on history I would say a minimum of 2 weeks to 3 weeks, if Tambora and Pinatubo are any indication 6 to 8 weeks.

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It would be nice to know if Geologists have determined if the Island of LaPalma IS CRACKED all the way across, like the big island of Hawaii is, ... which would facilitate an entire portion of the island splitting off and falling into the sea. Maybe somebody can chime in with that research.
 Quoting: Midwest Skeptic


Good info.

Like Mt St Helens--something to keep on the radar and have an eye out for possibly into the longer-short term.
 Quoting: LaGata


I'd say look on the main El Hiero thread from some years ago but it is gone. If it collapses you have roughly 8 hours to get off the east coast before the tsunami hits. Anywhere from 300 ft- to 800 feet plus depending on how many millions of tonnage of rock collapses. Do not depend on the tv to tell you! They do not want us to know.
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Don't forget Hawaii, Kilauea also has a slope that will do tha same damage to the West coast and it too is about to blow.
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"Do not depend on the tv to tell you! They do not want us to know." Most people don't want to know. The chaos would be huge and they'd die in traffic anyway.

If I lived there I'd move now. Call it an impromptu camping trip.
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Latest earthquake magnitude 2.9 at 7 km depth
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This last irrupt it in 1971, stay positive it’s happened before
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Seismogram from 9 pm to 10 pm UTC
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Harmonic tremors?

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Don't forget Hawaii, Kilauea also has a slope that will do tha same damage to the West coast and it too is about to blow.
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Dude we would all drown in doomgasms if they both went off.
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What about the St Lawrence and lower Great Lakes? Would the rising ocean waters impact those fresh water shores?
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I found a live camera from Puerto Naos which is in the peril area
Its not a still, you can see the palm tree leafs move
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If the human race can’t reach over 50 percent of people that want to get aboard the peace train then there is no hope. As long as they keep the sides hating and death watching civilization is doomed. Something horrible will happen.

Live in peace or die.
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Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :)
People need to keep in mind that with Mount St. Helens it was rumbling for several weeks before one strong quake dislodged the side of the mountain and it blew out sideways.

Similar historical reports exist for both Krakatoa and Tambora in what is now Indonesia (Tambora believed to be the largest reuption in the last 2000 or so years).

Ditto for Mt. Pinatubo in the Phillipeans, which is the largest or second largest eruption since Tambora.

In other words do NOT expect a MAJOR event IMMEDIATELY on LaPalma. It needs to fester and build up a "head of steam" so to speak before it will do anything serious.

How long?

Based on history I would say a minimum of 2 weeks to 3 weeks, if Tambora and Pinatubo are any indication 6 to 8 weeks.

===============================================

It would be nice to know if Geologists have determined if the Island of LaPalma IS CRACKED all the way across, like the big island of Hawaii is, ... which would facilitate an entire portion of the island splitting off and falling into the sea. Maybe somebody can chime in with that research.
 Quoting: Midwest Skeptic


Good info.

Like Mt St Helens--something to keep on the radar and have an eye out for possibly into the longer-short term.
 Quoting: LaGata


I'd say look on the main El Hiero thread from some years ago but it is gone. If it collapses you have roughly 8 hours to get off the east coast before the tsunami hits. Anywhere from 300 ft- to 800 feet plus depending on how many millions of tonnage of rock collapses. Do not depend on the tv to tell you! They do not want us to know.
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I was giving this a lot of thought last night, and NO WAY will they make some kind of announcement. Can you imagine the fucking PANIC in the streets???

They will say nothing. Not a word. Maybe like a few hours before they'll say "get to a shelter" but they will never let on that a 100 foot wave is coming.

How can you tell a population that? You can't and you won't, period.
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"Do not depend on the tv to tell you! They do not want us to know." Most people don't want to know. The chaos would be huge and they'd die in traffic anyway.

If I lived there I'd move now. Call it an impromptu camping trip.
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I would keep an eye on canary islands media, GLP, and all the other links on this site. I would also have a go bag packed and be ready to evac my family and friends to stay w/ someone we know inland or go to a campground.

Even have a little head start in this way can be a lifesaver. You don't have to go crazy and actually move.
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What about the St Lawrence and lower Great Lakes? Would the rising ocean waters impact those fresh water shores?
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Elevation of Lake Ontario makes it unlikely.
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