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Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :)

 
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Visualizations on map including flow, magnitudes, roads, eruption point
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Thanks M61 and all who have contributed to this amazing thread. Being in S. Florida, at 7' elevation, I'm reading every single post - GLPers will literally save lives, much gratitude to you all.
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Visualizations on map including flow, magnitudes, roads, eruption point
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Thanks M61 and all who have contributed to this amazing thread. Being in S. Florida, at 7' elevation, I'm reading every single post - GLPers will literally save lives, much gratitude to you all.
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Thank you and thanks to all

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I updated the thread title with new bad news about deformation and increase in tremor frequency. hiding
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Seismo just updated
and the rise continues

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Whoa.

Those folks are gonna need diapers.
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...


Oh.

Glaxon. I was wrong. Don’t take a nap.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


I laughed hard at this.

I was reading you other comment and thinking of a reply when I saw this.

I was thinking, "I know you are confident about it making it two days. So was I but..."
 Quoting: Glaxnor


lmao

I am not afraid to be wrong.

The ground really matters right now. Because it was weeks before Mt. St. Helens did the Big BaDa Boom

Going to feed the family. BRB
 Quoting: CleverCreator


I wish I was wrong. I really think this thing is going to blow.
 Quoting: Glaxnor


It's not the sort of volcano prone to "blow" in the way Mt StHelens did. The problem are the vents that continue to open. I saw a video with a local and he said there were as of this moment NINE vents that have opened.

Every vent and fissure that opens means more pressure on the stability of the land mass. Is it dire at this stage? Probably not but then again who the heck really knows what the breaking point is.
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I wonder if all the magma movement and tremors and changes of pressure could affect the Mid-Atlantic ridge. I feel like there is much more tsunami potential there than La Palma but I really never hear that possibility mentioned anywhere.
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check here, it shows the lava has almost reached the coast?
[link to firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov (secure)]
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I establish my covenant with you: Never again will all life be cut off by the waters of a flood; never again will there be a flood to destroy the earth." I have set my rainbow in the clouds, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and the earth.
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Now quote the part where God says instead: He will use FIRE to destroy the earth.
 Quoting: Deplorable NO MORE Michele B


Uh. He said the angel is throwing the mountain into the water.

Tell me where God gets his loophole in the end pages.

Directed at AC rainbow not being able to read who does the damage.
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A tsunami that wipes out the east coast isn't destroying the earth with water again. Also I'm pretty sure there is something about hailstones mixed with blood and fire or some shit. Fire is definitely mentioned in Revelation. A third of the earth gets burned if I remember correctly.
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To your point:

“And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring; men’s hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken." - Luke 21:25-26


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I wonder if all the magma movement and tremors and changes of pressure could affect the Mid-Atlantic ridge. I feel like there is much more tsunami potential there than La Palma but I really never hear that possibility mentioned anywhere.
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Add to this tropical storm Rose and seismic activity in Azores
over Mid Atlantic ridge
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Visualizations on map including flow, magnitudes, roads, eruption point
new data source

[link to ign-esp.maps.arcgis.com (secure)]
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Nice! ty
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I think the shallow quakes and booms are indicating the ground water heating up and expanding the surrounding rock and/or the lava trying to find new vents.
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check here, it shows the lava has almost reached the coast?
[link to firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov (secure)]
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the coordinates show in the sea
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Oh Geez...I really don't want to post this.

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The eruption continues with lava fountains from the new vent that opened last night and continuing lava flow emission. During the past hours, volcanic tremor has increased significantly, suggesting that output rate has increased or something else is changing. It will probably become clearer in the next hours what is happening.

There are concerns that the eruption is still far from stable and yet more vents, possibly further north could open up. Inflation has been continuing and reached 30 cm in places, sign that magma is still pressurizing and accumulating underground.
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...


Oh.

Glaxon. I was wrong. Don’t take a nap.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


I laughed hard at this.

I was reading you other comment and thinking of a reply when I saw this.

I was thinking, "I know you are confident about it making it two days. So was I but..."
 Quoting: Glaxnor


lmao

I am not afraid to be wrong.

The ground really matters right now. Because it was weeks before Mt. St. Helens did the Big BaDa Boom

Going to feed the family. BRB
 Quoting: CleverCreator


I wish I was wrong. I really think this thing is going to blow.
 Quoting: Glaxnor


Blow. Yes.

I still think the mountain into the sea is 9-23.

It just fits.
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I laughed hard at this.

I was reading you other comment and thinking of a reply when I saw this.

I was thinking, "I know you are confident about it making it two days. So was I but..."
 Quoting: Glaxnor


lmao

I am not afraid to be wrong.

The ground really matters right now. Because it was weeks before Mt. St. Helens did the Big BaDa Boom

Going to feed the family. BRB
 Quoting: CleverCreator


I wish I was wrong. I really think this thing is going to blow.
 Quoting: Glaxnor


It's not the sort of volcano prone to "blow" in the way Mt StHelens did. The problem are the vents that continue to open. I saw a video with a local and he said there were as of this moment NINE vents that have opened.

Every vent and fissure that opens means more pressure on the stability of the land mass. Is it dire at this stage? Probably not but then again who the heck really knows what the breaking point is.
 Quoting: FeedYourHead


Uh, it is the sort that blows.

If you also look at the posts you will find that the growth has been roughly...

+2 cm, +2, +2, +2, +2 (eruption), +2, +8cm (and this PRECEDES the new surge of magma I believe)

It's literally engineering 101, any F'in freshman should learn how to setup the system.

Measure the input (+2)

Measure the output (?)

Measure the capacity (Volume +2) and derive the freaking answer.

More mass is entering by a startling amount. Not leaving.
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My five year old has just looked up from his ice cream and said “it’s the end of the world today!”
No idea where that came from!!!
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[link to www.ign.es (secure)]

Uh. Does this seem like the intensity is about to go up or is my screen weird?
The blue bar...forget which one its called...not the colored ones that show quakes...looks like its getting thicker?
 Quoting: eV3y


Yes

And the live video panned away from the huge explosion and black smoke, now I think something larger happening
 Quoting: Murphy61


Wonder if a new fissure is about to rip open somewhere once it pops? It's still building in intensity. That vent has to be clogged, reason for all the smoke, wasn't this bad before.
 Quoting: eV3y


Anyone know if that is just smoke/gas, or is it smog? Wondering how much of that has steam mixed in…that could be telling, as it may be nearing significant groundwater.
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My TOTALLY UNEDUCATED GUESS is the white smoke is "smoke," or steam, probably from water mixing with the hot lava - as we all saw in the videos from swimming pools being overtaken.

Darker smoke - probably lava plumes.
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I might be reading the ign data wrong, but isn't there a huge spike on Tenerife?

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lmao

I am not afraid to be wrong.

The ground really matters right now. Because it was weeks before Mt. St. Helens did the Big BaDa Boom

Going to feed the family. BRB
 Quoting: CleverCreator


I wish I was wrong. I really think this thing is going to blow.
 Quoting: Glaxnor


It's not the sort of volcano prone to "blow" in the way Mt StHelens did. The problem are the vents that continue to open. I saw a video with a local and he said there were as of this moment NINE vents that have opened.

Every vent and fissure that opens means more pressure on the stability of the land mass. Is it dire at this stage? Probably not but then again who the heck really knows what the breaking point is.
 Quoting: FeedYourHead


Uh, it is the sort that blows.

If you also look at the posts you will find that the growth has been roughly...

+2 cm, +2, +2, +2, +2 (eruption), +2, +8cm (and this PRECEDES the new surge of magma I believe)

It's literally engineering 101, any F'in freshman should learn how to setup the system.

Measure the input (+2)

Measure the output (?)

Measure the capacity (Volume +2) and derive the freaking answer.

More mass is entering by a startling amount. Not leaving.
 Quoting: Glaxnor


Oh and if that is too complicated....

Take a balloon, hook it up to a freaking faucet. Poke 9 holes in it with a needle, and fill it with water.

Any 6 year old child can tell you what happens next.
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Just been up on my roof terrace can't even see anywhere near La Palma now there's so much smoke, ash, dust whatever. Throat feeling a tad sore. Wind is blowing this thing directly to us right now.
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edit: removed as not confirmed yet

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Serious inquiry:

If you or someone you knew were headed to a coastal spot in South Carolina for 2 weeks in a day or two.

Would you still go knowing what you know about this situation. Or would you just forfeit any money already spent and call it a loss and stay home.
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I wonder if all the magma movement and tremors and changes of pressure could affect the Mid-Atlantic ridge. I feel like there is much more tsunami potential there than La Palma but I really never hear that possibility mentioned anywhere.
 Quoting: rustyclutch151


Omg thank you for mentioning this!

I was wondering the same just yesterday- that is the underwater faultline right of off the coast of Virginia and NC border, right?

I read something about it years ago (live in Va Beach). Was always worried about something setting it off.

Wonder if this event could disturb it?
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Just a Rhetorical Question ... which probably means nothing:

WHY did so many Remote Viewers view THIS eruption, one that has gotten little press in the US?

There are bigger volcanic eruptions that happen around the world on a regular basis. There are other eruptions that get more press in the US. There are MANY eruptions where a fair number of people die (none here)

WHY did this particular eruption catch the attention of so many RVers, one that NOBODY has died in or even been injured (yet)?

Did so many RVers pick up on the beginning of this eruption because there is a MUCH BIGGER EVENT in the wings that is related to this eruption? A bigger event that they have not yet viewed?

The old Sherlock Holmes dynamic of "The Dog that did NOT bark" is something I seem to always notice in life. I have found that when things do NOT match up to what the expected norm SHOULD BE ... then something big is usually lingering in the wings, something I am just not aware of yet.

Why normally I deal with people and companies (this is how I have spotted fraud in companies in the past - and people Lying by Omission on very important things to say nothing about outright lying) this just strikes me as a VERY ODD BALL dynamic for so many RVers to see a single event that is actually very small and NOT one that is even a moderate news item.

Just a Rhetorical Question ... for which I have NO answer. Just thinking out loud.
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Maybe God gave them visions because this thing will be Biblical in scale before it's done?
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I do believe the visions have been very strong and wide on this one and many years in advance, from dream to semi-awakes states to states of fiction and imagining.

For every one of these advanced anecdotes, there could be 5, 10 or 100 more we will never hear and some more.

We do our best to cast our net together and see what catch we may land.
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check here, it shows the lava has almost reached the coast?
[link to firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: Ostria1


the coordinates show in the sea
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the nasa link is not loading for me
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Also to add... the EQ's (>3) have traced out the northern rim of the fault defined by Day & Ward in "Cumbre Vieja Volcano -- Potential collapse and tsunami at La Palma, Canary Islands". The one that slipped 4m prevously.

That wedge of land slopes out UNDER the sea 5-10 km, so we might also be looking for sea-quakes.
 Quoting: S-man


"Sea quakes???"???

Aren't those just earthquakes that happen off shore?

And if not that, then could THEY trigger a tsunami?
 Quoting: Deplorable NO MORE Michele B

Yes, by -sea-quake- I meant seabed.
I suppose, look out for quakes off-shore. Especially to the West of Cumbre Vieja, up to 15km off-shore. That could indicate further unzipping of the "slide wedge" land mass.

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My five year old has just looked up from his ice cream and said “it’s the end of the world today!”
No idea where that came from!!!
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Kids do say crazy things.

But the lil one might not be too far off.

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This thing is going to POP!
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There is so much good information here. Thank you to all who contribute here.

I'm mostly an addicted lurker here... don't have much to add... but I do pass along a lot of the info I receive here.

Many thanks!

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My five year old has just looked up from his ice cream and said “it’s the end of the world today!”
No idea where that came from!!!
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