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Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :)

 
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Been trying to find an ETA on lava reaching ocean it must be close now.
 Quoting: VikingHighlander


They say approximately 3:30 am local time
It is 11:16 pm currently
 Quoting: WhiteAngel


Are you sure?
I can put a countdown on this in the feed
 Quoting: Inerone


That is what was said in a Tweet a few pages back now.
Isaiah 5:20 KJV
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how many diferent live feed are there?
Don't really feel like browsing all results today :P
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2 not counting the one from the Observatory which is IR and tells us nothing

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thought so

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Been trying to find an ETA on lava reaching ocean it must be close now.
 Quoting: VikingHighlander


same,

im in anticipation, it will mark a new chapter in this story.

also, this is a good example of how little the "experts" know...The ETA's have not been accurate.

if i recall correctly, they estimated lava would reach the sea 3 or 4 days ago.

I do respect the experts , they know way more than I do..

that said.. I hope they are ready to take notes..

because Earth is about to take them to school.
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Oh man. I just realized the Eastern Shore would be gone…. Noooooo.

Who had the super glue!?!? I haven’t been on the east coast in six years. I am not ready for this!!
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Been trying to find an ETA on lava reaching ocean it must be close now.
 Quoting: VikingHighlander


They say approximately 3:30 am local time
It is 11:16 pm currently
 Quoting: WhiteAngel


Are you sure?
I can put a countdown on this in the feed
 Quoting: Inerone


That is what was said in a Tweet a few pages back now.
 Quoting: WhiteAngel


I skkiped a few to set up the stream (still not done)
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Exactly what I fear. Hence, why explicit data is more important at this point. Physics comes into play more than geology in my opinion, I could be wrong no doubt. I just question anything that is given w/o a detailed analysis.
 Quoting: The Profiler


I don't understand the point you're making?

What explicit data? Early warning systems? There are none other that intuition and common sense.

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 Quoting: Whatever It Takes


the early warning system is Pablo in the city square.

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 Quoting: langford


When the cats stop meowing, the dogs stop barking, and the rooster stops crowing. That is our early warning system. Just before the camera feed goes dark...

smoking1
 Quoting: DuckNCover


Five minutes later, every Air Force Base on the east coast (and gulf coast) will scramble.

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from Time I estimate that the lava has already advanced between the helmet of Todoque (6:30 p.m.) until now (21
30) 1/3 of the distance from Todoque to the sea. I estimate that it arrives before 3:30 a.m. to the sea.



ohno
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I think we all have the sense of what may be coming...you can feel the energy.
 Quoting: Disenfranchised Godzilla1980


Yeah, the air is thick with it. Had a great day yesterday with my sons and grandson, but behind everything was this ominous feeling we all had, but didn't want to talk about.
 Quoting: Immortal Dread


I don't really leave my house. Family does and report back all the time about how crazy everyone seems and getting worse.

The ominous feeling, is a constant noise in the background that is felt by us all, all the time.

6 decades on this world and never have I lived through what is going on now. The darkness.....horrible
 Quoting: WhiteAngel


Put down your phone. Turn off your TV. Get outside and take a walk.
 Quoting: AR 15-SPECIALIST


Wow. What an amazing idea?!?!

But guess what? That is not possible for everyone.

Not the tv or phone part. The actual getting out part.

You could just acknowledge her feelings. They are valid.

:splat:
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Exactly what I fear. Hence, why explicit data is more important at this point. Physics comes into play more than geology in my opinion, I could be wrong no doubt. I just question anything that is given w/o a detailed analysis.
 Quoting: The Profiler


I don't understand the point you're making?

What explicit data? Early warning systems? There are none other that intuition and common sense.

.
 Quoting: Whatever It Takes


Previous data that can correspond to the current scenario. What are the possibilities via worst case and best case, with all of the data that has been collected thus far, compared to a scenario that occurred in the past. Compare the data points is what I am implying is all.
 Quoting: The Profiler


Comparing with the geological record is... GEOLOGY.

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 Quoting: Whatever It Takes

Whatever makes you happy man.
It's data analysis with geological data and physics.
Enjoy your evening sir.
Not here to argue or correct anyone.
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The agenda talking point is to declare that nothing is wrong. They will hold to that until the wave can be seen behind the Statue of Liberty.

Believe nothing they say.

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 Quoting: Whatever It Takes

Exactly what I fear. Hence, why explicit data is more important at this point. Physics comes into play more than geology in my opinion, I could be wrong no doubt. I just question anything that is given w/o a detailed analysis.
 Quoting: The Profiler


I don't understand the point you're making?

What explicit data? Early warning systems? There are none other that intuition and common sense.

.
 Quoting: Whatever It Takes


Previous data that can correspond to the current scenario. What are the possibilities via worst case and best case, with all of the data that has been collected thus far, compared to a scenario that occurred in the past. Compare the data points is what I am implying is all.
 Quoting: The Profiler


Zero data sets available.

Please restate request.
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Yeah, the air is thick with it. Had a great day yesterday with my sons and grandson, but behind everything was this ominous feeling we all had, but didn't want to talk about.
 Quoting: Immortal Dread


I don't really leave my house. Family does and report back all the time about how crazy everyone seems and getting worse.

The ominous feeling, is a constant noise in the background that is felt by us all, all the time.

6 decades on this world and never have I lived through what is going on now. The darkness.....horrible
 Quoting: WhiteAngel


Put down your phone. Turn off your TV. Get outside and take a walk.
 Quoting: AR 15-SPECIALIST


This is so true and so necessary in order to stay sane in this current twilight zone we are living in.

I think reading doom 24/7 really takes a toll on you, mentally, emotionally, physically and spiritually. I can always feel it when I'm glued to a thread like this and don't take the time to get out, enjoy nature and do other things.

Walking in green spaces has been proven to help with depression, too. I really notice a difference in my mood and outlook when I do it.
 Quoting: The Clam Before The Storm


I spend time outside when the air is clear - severe asthma - and I also keep the news off, the tv is on silly stuff - and games.

One can only stand constant doom possibilities for so long before one cracks.
Isaiah 5:20 KJV
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
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Clam said this from her hub:

When monitoring the information from the GPS sensors (which they have stopped posting as of the 21st!),

Is that a breakdown? Or deliberate?

Breakdown is not a surprise. Seems like the whole world's infrastructure is breaking down more often.

Deliberate is serious, it would be a cover up with ominous implications.

Anybody know anything about it? If this was already discussed, sorry. I missed a lot since last night.
 Quoting: Prayandprepare000


...like the buoys, too...
 Quoting: The Clam Before The Storm


I'll say it again -- I am convinced that TPTB would rather have people perish in a coastal disaster than have to deal with a refugee crisis of epic proportion.

This kind of refugee crisis would not be survivable by any country.

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 Quoting: Whatever It Takes


Yeah, if this one goes they're going to try to keep the warning from getting out for as long as possible. They need as many people to die in place as possible. Something like 25%-40% of the US' logistics network sits directly in the affected zone of the worst case scenario.

Simply put, we'd be an instant 3rd world country if even 10% of the population of the direct impact zone got out. (Doing some quick head math 10% of the population in the direct impact zone would be more than the entire population of Syria Afghanistan and Iraq combined.

That's not even including the fact that pretty much everyone east of the Mississippi is turbo fucked because we'd have to move basically every bit of everything they need up the Mississippi for months to years to more likely A DECADE after the tsunami!

Also if you look at the number of EPA super fund sites and etc this would slam directly through you're talking tens to hundreds of trillions of dollars in cleanup before sea life might start coming back along the Eastern seaboard and gulf of Mexico
 Quoting: roguetechie81


That’s quite a scenario you’ve outlined, rogue.

Talk about logistics! What would happen to that many dead bodies? Are they counting on all of them washing out to sea? Gruesome thought...but let’s consider the logistics. Not just supplies for the survivors, but the death and destruction brought upon us.
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Exactly what I fear. Hence, why explicit data is more important at this point. Physics comes into play more than geology in my opinion, I could be wrong no doubt. I just question anything that is given w/o a detailed analysis.
 Quoting: The Profiler


I don't understand the point you're making?

What explicit data? Early warning systems? There are none other that intuition and common sense.

.
 Quoting: Whatever It Takes


Previous data that can correspond to the current scenario. What are the possibilities via worst case and best case, with all of the data that has been collected thus far, compared to a scenario that occurred in the past. Compare the data points is what I am implying is all.
 Quoting: The Profiler


Comparing with the geological record is... GEOLOGY.

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 Quoting: Whatever It Takes


No. He wants things like seismographs and shit.

This isn’t a modern data set we can pull outta my academic fat ass.
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how many diferent live feed are there?
Don't really feel like browsing all results today :P
 Quoting: Inerone


2 not counting the one from the Observatory which is IR and tells us nothing

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[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: WhiteAngel


thought so
 Quoting: Inerone


Now this one went down too

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Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
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how many diferent live feed are there?
Don't really feel like browsing all results today :P
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Great Job Friend

Thanks for the stream.

Its my favorite.
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That totally messed up

For CC thank you.
I did get what they were saying......

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When Bushcraft Bear starts getting nervous that will be my cue to panic.
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I don't really leave my house. Family does and report back all the time about how crazy everyone seems and getting worse.

The ominous feeling, is a constant noise in the background that is felt by us all, all the time.

6 decades on this world and never have I lived through what is going on now. The darkness.....horrible
 Quoting: WhiteAngel


Put down your phone. Turn off your TV. Get outside and take a walk.
 Quoting: AR 15-SPECIALIST


This is so true and so necessary in order to stay sane in this current twilight zone we are living in.

I think reading doom 24/7 really takes a toll on you, mentally, emotionally, physically and spiritually. I can always feel it when I'm glued to a thread like this and don't take the time to get out, enjoy nature and do other things.

Walking in green spaces has been proven to help with depression, too. I really notice a difference in my mood and outlook when I do it.
 Quoting: The Clam Before The Storm


I spend time outside when the air is clear - severe asthma - and I also keep the news off, the tv is on silly stuff - and games.

One can only stand constant doom possibilities for so long before one cracks.
 Quoting: WhiteAngel


I would rather see the truth -- the doomy truth -- than watch the puppet show on tv. That drives me crazy.

Side note: Really good results achieved by asthma sufferers using nebulizer and 3% hydrogen peroxide treatments. Please don't respond to this. Thanks.

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I don't understand the point you're making?

What explicit data? Early warning systems? There are none other that intuition and common sense.

.
 Quoting: Whatever It Takes


Previous data that can correspond to the current scenario. What are the possibilities via worst case and best case, with all of the data that has been collected thus far, compared to a scenario that occurred in the past. Compare the data points is what I am implying is all.
 Quoting: The Profiler


Comparing with the geological record is... GEOLOGY.

.
 Quoting: Whatever It Takes


No. He wants things like seismographs and shit.

This isn’t a modern data set we can pull outta my academic fat ass.
 Quoting: CleverCreator

You're not required to submit this data.
In a nutshell, I just wanna know similar scenarios that have occurred in the past with other volcanoes and the outcomes. I am not asking for anyone to give me a solid answer, just wondering if someone might have a link that I was unable to see and search for.

My apologies if I came across as demanding or an asshole, not intended at all.
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That totally messed up

For CC thank you.
I did get what they were saying......

hugs
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I figured the hug was at me. Love you much.
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When Bushcraft Bear starts getting nervous that will be my cue to panic.
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Same.



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Lava changed direction it's not melting the right flank now it's tearing apart the step left flank . Look at the amount of boulders flying in the air !
Volcano researcher with heart :)
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how many diferent live feed are there?
Don't really feel like browsing all results today :P
 Quoting: Inerone


2 not counting the one from the Observatory which is IR and tells us nothing

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TV La Palma just went offline
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Previous data that can correspond to the current scenario. What are the possibilities via worst case and best case, with all of the data that has been collected thus far, compared to a scenario that occurred in the past. Compare the data points is what I am implying is all.
 Quoting: The Profiler


Comparing with the geological record is... GEOLOGY.

.
 Quoting: Whatever It Takes


No. He wants things like seismographs and shit.

This isn’t a modern data set we can pull outta my academic fat ass.
 Quoting: CleverCreator

You're not required to submit this data.
In a nutshell, I just wanna know similar scenarios that have occurred in the past with other volcanoes and the outcomes. I am not asking for anyone to give me a solid answer, just wondering if someone might have a link that I was unable to see and search for.

My apologies if I came across as demanding or an asshole, not intended at all.
 Quoting: The Profiler


hugs

Thanks.

But the point stands that there is no data. There are some geological records but not data as in it happened recently.

If you go to the OP there is the DaY paper that shows the past slides. But it’s ancient and there wasn’t modern data collection tools. ;)

And you are right about the cross disciplinary issue here. My head is really frustrated that the geology and volcanology just are not seeing the physics, chemical, and electrical issues in this system.

We did have a geochemist pop in. I was honest about my background and he never did say much after that.

sigh
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This whole thing is a big tourist plus for the area


I had no idea La Palma was so beautiful and i can't wait to book a trip.
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I don't really leave my house. Family does and report back all the time about how crazy everyone seems and getting worse.

The ominous feeling, is a constant noise in the background that is felt by us all, all the time.

6 decades on this world and never have I lived through what is going on now. The darkness.....horrible
 Quoting: WhiteAngel


Put down your phone. Turn off your TV. Get outside and take a walk.
 Quoting: AR 15-SPECIALIST


This is so true and so necessary in order to stay sane in this current twilight zone we are living in.

I think reading doom 24/7 really takes a toll on you, mentally, emotionally, physically and spiritually. I can always feel it when I'm glued to a thread like this and don't take the time to get out, enjoy nature and do other things.

Walking in green spaces has been proven to help with depression, too. I really notice a difference in my mood and outlook when I do it.
 Quoting: The Clam Before The Storm


I spend time outside when the air is clear - severe asthma - and I also keep the news off, the tv is on silly stuff - and games.

One can only stand constant doom possibilities for so long before one cracks.
 Quoting: WhiteAngel


So true about 'cracking' with too much doom!

I'm sorry to hear about your asthma. That would be tough. I hope you have some clear days in the near future.

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When Bushcraft Bear starts getting nervous that will be my cue to panic.
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Same.



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 Quoting: Raylie Ann


He seemed nervous a couple of times last week. He was taking deep breaths. But maybe that was just due to the poor air quality.
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From the Technical Director of Civil Protection and Emergency Care for Volcano Risk, 3 hours ago was 1600m from the sea and travelling at 100m/hour but is dependent on the topography of the direct line. The tongue of lava is up to 600m across.

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Let's say the side were to collapse tonight. How would we know? Other than *hopefully* there being enough light on the stream to see
 Quoting: FinishingMatilda


The elites will be hauling ass from the coasts of the States, UK and Europe.

In the US, military planes will be launching to the interior. Navy/Coast Guard/Cruise Ships/large private yachts will move as fast as possible past the continental shelf.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith



Open water tsunami's travel at 500 to 600 hundred miles per hour, and would be virtually unseen till they were closer to land.
 Quoting: Mangia


It will be detected.

A massive collapse of the La Palma volcano, or ridge, will be the first indicator.

Think ...... they have already gamed the scenarios. I promise.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


"IF" LaPalma loses part of the island the underseas communications cables off the island could FAIL at the EXACT time of the collapse, or within a couple of minutes as the waves disturbed both the undersea cables and the shoreside boxes where they come ashore.

In other words the island "MAY" be able to get out a 5 - 10 second or so distress call, which may or may not be heard, before communications with the island are cut off.

Of course that is a WORST CASE scenario ... and communications "may" remain up with the part of the island that remains, but do NOT count on the regular communications lines remaining up and being able to convey to the outside world the extent of what happened ... and even if they do those on the island itself may not figure out how much of the island slipped into the sea until at or after a Tsunami would already be hitting parts of the US (and LONG AFTER it had already hit Europe)

(man I am in a "doom" mode tonight ... :-( )

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how many diferent live feed are there?
Don't really feel like browsing all results today :P
 Quoting: Inerone


2 not counting the one from the Observatory which is IR and tells us nothing

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: WhiteAngel


TV La Palma just went offline
 Quoting: dyin


Try refreshing the yt page. I've done that several times and it goes back live.





GLP