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LooneyBin
User ID: 79572021 United States 09/26/2021 06:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) To try to save lives, on the East Coast, if this tsunami occurs; it would be good to get an accurate speed of the wave in the Atlantic... Quoting: DuckNCover There have been models and simulations that range from 400 mph to 700 mph. By monitoring the Atlantic buoys from the time of the slide to the impact on each buoy would be advantageous in determining wave velocity and more approximate tsunami time of impacts on the East Coast of America... If someone could verify the approximate distance to verify my findings, it would be greatly appreciated... Station 13002 - 611 miles Station 41139 - 1396 miles Station 41044 - 2586 miles Station 41049 - 2737 miles Station 41048 - 3071 miles Station 44402 - 3153 miles Station 44066 - 3180 miles Station 44069 - 3200 miles This last buoy is the Great South Bay of Long Island... Thank you... You would know almost right away even if all communications suddenly stopped with LP. You would get reports of tsunamis in Spain and other islands. It would also allow for calculations on how fast it is going. The buoys are needed more for a collapse of something in the middle of the ocean. |
MysticMomma13
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VikingHighlander
User ID: 80015385 Canada 09/26/2021 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) how many diferent live feed are there? Quoting: Inerone Don't really feel like browsing all results today :P 2 not counting the one from the Observatory which is IR and tells us nothing [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] TV La Palma just went offline Here's to a merry life and a happy one A quick death and an easy one A pretty girl and an honest one A stiff whiskey and another one |
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Newandimproved
User ID: 80863141 Canada 09/26/2021 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) This whole thing is a big tourist plus for the area Quoting: BLARGON I had no idea La Palma was so beautiful and i can't wait to book a trip. I dont think there will be a tourism industry for much longer. Not just on La Palma. Everywhere. "We must be clear that when it comes to atoms, language can be used only as in poetry."--NIELS BOHR |
Galaxee
User ID: 80149794 United States 09/26/2021 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) I'll say it again -- I am convinced that TPTB would rather have people perish in a coastal disaster than have to deal with a refugee crisis of epic proportion. This kind of refugee crisis would not be survivable by any country. . Yeah, if this one goes they're going to try to keep the warning from getting out for as long as possible. They need as many people to die in place as possible. Something like 25%-40% of the US' logistics network sits directly in the affected zone of the worst case scenario. Simply put, we'd be an instant 3rd world country if even 10% of the population of the direct impact zone got out. (Doing some quick head math 10% of the population in the direct impact zone would be more than the entire population of Syria Afghanistan and Iraq combined. That's not even including the fact that pretty much everyone east of the Mississippi is turbo fucked because we'd have to move basically every bit of everything they need up the Mississippi for months to years to more likely A DECADE after the tsunami! Also if you look at the number of EPA super fund sites and etc this would slam directly through you're talking tens to hundreds of trillions of dollars in cleanup before sea life might start coming back along the Eastern seaboard and gulf of Mexico That’s quite a scenario you’ve outlined, rogue. Talk about logistics! What would happen to that many dead bodies? Are they counting on all of them washing out to sea? Gruesome thought...but let’s consider the logistics. Not just supplies for the survivors, but the death and destruction brought upon us. Fema many coffins would become handy but who would be left to do the clean up? Such a sad scenario and I hope it doesn’t happen. Galaxee “Success is to be measured not so much by the position that one has reached in life as by the obstacles which he has overcome.” Booker T Washington |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80846152 United States 09/26/2021 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) No. He wants things like seismographs and shit. This isn’t a modern data set we can pull outta my academic fat ass. You're not required to submit this data. In a nutshell, I just wanna know similar scenarios that have occurred in the past with other volcanoes and the outcomes. I am not asking for anyone to give me a solid answer, just wondering if someone might have a link that I was unable to see and search for. My apologies if I came across as demanding or an asshole, not intended at all. Thanks. But the point stands that there is no data. There are some geological records but not data as in it happened recently. If you go to the OP there is the DaY paper that shows the past slides. But it’s ancient and there wasn’t modern data collection tools. ;) And you are right about the cross disciplinary issue here. My head is really frustrated that the geology and volcanology just are not seeing the physics, chemical, and electrical issues in this system. We did have a geochemist pop in. I was honest about my background and he never did say much after that. It's all good man. I'll contribute if I can, when I might get a valid link. Just gonna observe now. Thanks everyone for your contributions thus far. |
The Clam Before The Storm
User ID: 70404385 United States 09/26/2021 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) how many diferent live feed are there? Quoting: Inerone Don't really feel like browsing all results today :P 2 not counting the one from the Observatory which is IR and tells us nothing [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] TV La Palma just went offline This one works: "Clambake! Gonna have a Clambake!" -Elvis |
MtnPatriot
User ID: 80908002 United States 09/26/2021 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) Haven't kept up with this tread over the past few days. Just looked at the EQ map for La Palma and noticed there were a couple EQ on the OTHER SIDE of the island's ridge. This cannot be good that they are spreading to the other side....???? Quoting: MarketPulse [link to www.ign.es] The "slide block" proposed by Ward & Day actually extends under the ridge snd out the other side by a kilometer or two. (See the OP post #1 for the link to the paper..the scenatic is on page 2). EQ's up and down the ridge are deep at the moment, 8-12km. Whilst concerning I am watching to see if that depth rises closer to the surface. I would guess anything less than 5km and over 3.0Mag is VERY concerning. Anyone else disagree? Agree. And I would say number matters too. The ground might have time to resettle between given the constant vibrations. I have attached a 3d map of the earthquakes. There are 3 groups that I see, the deepest ones, the middle ones, and the shallow ones. The middle ones seem to reveal two lobes to a magma chamber under the island; a west lobe and a southward eastward lobe. It looks to me that magma heat/pressure is now working on the southward lobe which could result in vents opening at the South end. [link to lapalma.maps.arcgis.com (secure)] |
WhiteAngel
also known at WA User ID: 80425530 United States 09/26/2021 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) This is so true and so necessary in order to stay sane in this current twilight zone we are living in. I think reading doom 24/7 really takes a toll on you, mentally, emotionally, physically and spiritually. I can always feel it when I'm glued to a thread like this and don't take the time to get out, enjoy nature and do other things. Walking in green spaces has been proven to help with depression, too. I really notice a difference in my mood and outlook when I do it. I spend time outside when the air is clear - severe asthma - and I also keep the news off, the tv is on silly stuff - and games. One can only stand constant doom possibilities for so long before one cracks. I would rather see the truth -- the doomy truth -- than watch the puppet show on tv. That drives me crazy. Side note: Really good results achieved by asthma sufferers using nebulizer and 3% hydrogen peroxide treatments. Please don't respond to this. Thanks. . It's for my daughter mostly, severely depressed and can't handle anything else. The rest of us know, so we prepare. Isaiah 5:20 KJV Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Thread: Being Prepared - Updated Basic Food List On Page One |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 53739983 United States 09/26/2021 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) how many diferent live feed are there? Quoting: Inerone Don't really feel like browsing all results today :P 2 not counting the one from the Observatory which is IR and tells us nothing [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] thought so Here is one, same view but a little further out and not so fluorescent. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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Newandimproved
User ID: 80863141 Canada 09/26/2021 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) He seemed nervous a couple of times last week. He was taking deep breaths. But maybe that was just due to the poor air quality. He did say the recent nights were scary lol. I can't imagine trying to sleep with the deafening roar of the spitting lava. "We must be clear that when it comes to atoms, language can be used only as in poetry."--NIELS BOHR |
joinca
User ID: 79996250 United States 09/26/2021 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) This is how the coladas advanced today / This is the way the lava flows were moving today https://twitter.com/_/status/1442253595450220555 "The government will one day be corrupt and full of liars, and the people will flock to the one that tells the truth." - “Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.” - "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." - "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - "A Country with no Border, is not a country" -- Thomas Jefferson We MUST NEVER forget what Kamala Harris did to Justice Kavanaugh & his family! |
Inerone
User ID: 80189679 Portugal 09/26/2021 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) an expert https://twitter.com/_/status/1442256076473180165 Last Edited by Inerone on 09/26/2021 06:44 PM |
VikingHighlander
User ID: 80015385 Canada 09/26/2021 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) ... Quoting: WhiteAngel 2 not counting the one from the Observatory which is IR and tells us nothing [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] TV La Palma just went offline This one works: I like the time stamp on this one. Thanks Here's to a merry life and a happy one A quick death and an easy one A pretty girl and an honest one A stiff whiskey and another one |
The Oracle's Cookie
User ID: 76948143 United States 09/26/2021 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) I've been asking for THAT info for a couple of days ...even doing google searches and there is ZERO INFO other than your own EYE BALLS to watch some of the overhead drone videos and you really do NOT know how recent that is. I'm trying to use those 2 little hills (they are extinct vents from previous eruptions) where the trajectory of the lava is flowing right now. I try to calculate by how close it is getting there...and the distance from the beach looks like about 1/4 mile. THAT IS VERY CLOSE... but it depends on what's going on at the TOP OF THE FLOW to really figure out if the lava stream will even make it that far. Oh well...We can put a man on the moon but we can't figure out some of the SPECIFICS (due to NO DATA) for what could be the biggest natural disaster in the history of our country! GO FIGURE?? :JANETdoom: Janet Napolitano, Homeland Security under Obama had these FINAL WORDS before she left office (which caused a huge buzz...because NOBODY KNEW WHAT SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT!! (It wasn't "global warming... and it wasn't Hurricanes...WAS IT LA PALMA EVEN BACK THEN? Who knows?) [link to www.dhs.gov (secure)] The Oracle's Cookie "An evil enemy will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes." – Sun Tzu"...."DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK!" Thread: Partial crustal shift and the Sun / earth , new EARTH UNDER FIRE video pg 116 Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, Thread: UPdated Pg.2: Davinci Equinox Code 3:"What the EQUINOX SHADOW Knows"--Equinox Triggers and Solar Micro-Nova. |
WhiteAngel
also known at WA User ID: 80425530 United States 09/26/2021 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) This is how the coladas advanced today / This is the way the lava flows were moving today Quoting: joinca https://twitter.com/_/status/1442253595450220555 Very very slow Isaiah 5:20 KJV Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Thread: Being Prepared - Updated Basic Food List On Page One |
Otter girl
User ID: 80176568 United States 09/26/2021 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) What worries me, is that for the last 2 days, we have seen TONS of black smoke coming out of the very top of the volcano. Seriously --the column of smoke is massive, and the flaming lava plume is only about 1/3 to 1/4 the width of the column of smoke. Quoting: Otter girl This makes me wonder if part of the cone is blocked, since there is so much black smoke compared to the flaming lava? Have any volcano experts or geologists explained why there is so much more black smoke coming out of the mouth of the volcano, compared to the lava plume? Does anyone here on this thread know if it's normal for volcanoes to have this much black smoke, compared to lava? Is this normal? Does it mean there are still lots more explosions to come? The flaming lava plume is only about 1/3rd the width of the massive column of smoke that has been coming out of the top of the cone for the past few days. I shudder to think what happens if the volcano becomes unblocked and lets losoe....or if it doesn't get unblocked and explodes. Well, the volcano just answered my question for me. Lol. Where there was previously just a huge column of black smoke, there are now HUGE explosions of flames and magma going on. YUGE. Yikes. |
The Oracle's Cookie
User ID: 76948143 United States 09/26/2021 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) Yeah...and the NEXT PICTURE is something like THIS ONE from the Hawaii eruption back in 2018! "...and the EXPERTS GO GOLFING" The Oracle's Cookie "An evil enemy will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes." – Sun Tzu"...."DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK!" Thread: Partial crustal shift and the Sun / earth , new EARTH UNDER FIRE video pg 116 Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, Thread: UPdated Pg.2: Davinci Equinox Code 3:"What the EQUINOX SHADOW Knows"--Equinox Triggers and Solar Micro-Nova. |
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The Clam Before The Storm
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SharknatoTomato
User ID: 79900932 United States 09/26/2021 06:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) An expert indeed. He wrote this on the second day of the eruption. He says "We stopped monitoring movement at the Cumbre Vieja in the early 2000s, so have no idea what has been happening since then, and especially in the build-up to the current eruption. Nonetheless, it is important to recognises that the west flank of the volcano remains an actively unstable rock mass that will fail at some point. We continue to be confident that a major, tsunami-generating, collapse is perfectly possible - even probable - at this volcano, whether or not any tsunami impact is localised or extended. WE DO NOT, HOWEVER, PROPOSE THAT IT WILL HAPPEN IN THIS ERUPTION. It is likely that when the west flank fails, it will do so during an eruption, but this could be 10, 30, or 50 eruptions down the line. The chances that collapse will occur during the current eruption are very small, but we cannot say they are zero." Last Edited by SharknatoTomato on 09/26/2021 06:51 PM "If you aint living on the edge, you're taking up too much space. |
eV3y
User ID: 80698548 United States 09/26/2021 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) I have attached a 3d map of the earthquakes. There are 3 groups that I see, the deepest ones, the middle ones, and the shallow ones. The middle ones seem to reveal two lobes to a magma chamber under the island; a west lobe and a southward eastward lobe. It looks to me that magma heat/pressure is now working on the southward lobe which could result in vents opening at the South end. Quoting: MtnPatriot [link to lapalma.maps.arcgis.com (secure)] This is amazing, thank you!!! *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* I can't force people to accept the truth, but I can expose them to it. |
Deplorable NO MORE Michele B
User ID: 77897587 United States 09/26/2021 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) I do not think I will reach that, until/if water hits the vents. Then I will worry if we start having all those powerful huge explosions. Let me clarify my post. Not resigned to go quietly into the night, but resigned to fight out the long haul. We need to help each other do this. More now than ever before. |
ADEND
User ID: 63079051 United States 09/26/2021 06:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) ... Quoting: WhiteAngel As a teen, I thought I would see it in my life time and His return. As an adult, knowing how really horrific this time period would be, I hoped it was later .... Sure is escalating quickly As a kid, I read 'Late Great Planet Earth' when it first came out. Yeah, I'm that old. Why would a kid want to read that, except something in me was drawn to it. I needed to know. I've studied eschatology and I've been eyes-open ever since. I'm thoroughly convinced that I was made for just such a time as this and we are rolling fast into amazing times. . Yep! Same here. I’ve also had dreams since childhood of this time. Have always known…. I know that things have to get really bad before they get really good. Sorry to report that, but it is the only path. My name here is part of a prayer that I say almost continuously... "Thy Kingdom come... whatever it takes." . I hear so many praying with conditions on the answer. Your prayer is refreshing and leads me to believe you have some grasp on the sovereignty of God. |
Agent 99
User ID: 77082640 United States 09/26/2021 06:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) Let's say the side were to collapse tonight. How would we know? Other than *hopefully* there being enough light on the stream to see Quoting: FinishingMatilda The elites will be hauling ass from the coasts of the States, UK and Europe. In the US, military planes will be launching to the interior. Navy/Coast Guard/Cruise Ships/large private yachts will move as fast as possible past the continental shelf. Open water tsunami's travel at 500 to 600 hundred miles per hour, and would be virtually unseen till they were closer to land. It will be detected. A massive collapse of the La Palma volcano, or ridge, will be the first indicator. Think ...... they have already gamed the scenarios. I promise. Ahhh. Maybe that's what the Navy was working on when they set off charges near the coast of Florida.... that collapsed that condo. hmmm. |
The Clam Before The Storm
User ID: 70404385 United States 09/26/2021 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) What worries me, is that for the last 2 days, we have seen TONS of black smoke coming out of the very top of the volcano. Seriously --the column of smoke is massive, and the flaming lava plume is only about 1/3 to 1/4 the width of the column of smoke. Quoting: Otter girl This makes me wonder if part of the cone is blocked, since there is so much black smoke compared to the flaming lava? Have any volcano experts or geologists explained why there is so much more black smoke coming out of the mouth of the volcano, compared to the lava plume? Does anyone here on this thread know if it's normal for volcanoes to have this much black smoke, compared to lava? Is this normal? Does it mean there are still lots more explosions to come? The flaming lava plume is only about 1/3rd the width of the massive column of smoke that has been coming out of the top of the cone for the past few days. I shudder to think what happens if the volcano becomes unblocked and lets losoe....or if it doesn't get unblocked and explodes. Well, the volcano just answered my question for me. Lol. Where there was previously just a huge column of black smoke, there are now HUGE explosions of flames and magma going on. YUGE. Yikes. I don't know the answer to any of your questions, but I did see drone footage that showed vents within the big crater....not just one big deep chasm. Based on what I see now on the live footage, it looks like she might have blown out....but it might just be the vantage point. "Clambake! Gonna have a Clambake!" -Elvis |