China's 'Lehman Moment' - The Black Swan Has Landed: Evergrande Hires Bankruptcy Advisors As Furious Investors Protest Imminent Default | |
LoneStarRising
(OP) Forum Moderator User ID: 72534021 United States 09/14/2021 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: China's 'Lehman Moment' - The Black Swan Has Landed: Evergrande Hires Bankruptcy Advisors As Furious Investors Protest Imminent Default To understand what is going on you need to understand the chinese culture. I lived in China (nanjing). They are mostly atheists but believe me, they are superstitious as fuck. Right now they believe that they no longer have the "heaven mandate" or the approval of the karmic power and people are starting to understand this. This is not good news because it makes the CCP very dangerous and they will start a war to remain in power. When that happens, America is dead. No microchips = nothing. They know this which is why I suspect they will take over Taiwan. The west will collapse. China will rule with a tight iron hammer and only those they like will get chips. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71720846 They also reneged on their NWO pledge. They never meant to do it in full just enough to get to the top. Now the NWO no longer has China. They may have saved us from the NWO but it will lead to total destruction. Peace. The Chicoms have definitely lost the "mandate of heaven." COVID started the ball rolling. And China/Taiwan are not the only sources for computer chips. US, South Korea, and Japan will have to rapidly adjust their supply chains. We should be doing it already. An even bigger issue is Rare Earth Minerals where China controls 70% of the global market. LoneStarRising |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22585781 United States 09/14/2021 10:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: China's 'Lehman Moment' - The Black Swan Has Landed: Evergrande Hires Bankruptcy Advisors As Furious Investors Protest Imminent Default To understand what is going on you need to understand the chinese culture. I lived in China (nanjing). They are mostly atheists but believe me, they are superstitious as fuck. Right now they believe that they no longer have the "heaven mandate" or the approval of the karmic power and people are starting to understand this. This is not good news because it makes the CCP very dangerous and they will start a war to remain in power. When that happens, America is dead. No microchips = nothing. They know this which is why I suspect they will take over Taiwan. The west will collapse. China will rule with a tight iron hammer and only those they like will get chips. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71720846 They also reneged on their NWO pledge. They never meant to do it in full just enough to get to the top. Now the NWO no longer has China. They may have saved us from the NWO but it will lead to total destruction. Peace. The Chicoms have definitely lost the "mandate of heaven." COVID started the ball rolling. And China/Taiwan are not the only sources for computer chips. US, South Korea, and Japan will have to rapidly adjust their supply chains. We should be doing it already. An even bigger issue is Rare Earth Minerals where China controls 70% of the global market. Rare earth elements aren’t actually rare, they’re just dirty to mine and a lot of previous sources shut down and we exported the pollution to China. Other sources elsewhere can re-open. |
LoneStarRising
(OP) Forum Moderator User ID: 72534021 United States 09/14/2021 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: China's 'Lehman Moment' - The Black Swan Has Landed: Evergrande Hires Bankruptcy Advisors As Furious Investors Protest Imminent Default To understand what is going on you need to understand the chinese culture. I lived in China (nanjing). They are mostly atheists but believe me, they are superstitious as fuck. Right now they believe that they no longer have the "heaven mandate" or the approval of the karmic power and people are starting to understand this. This is not good news because it makes the CCP very dangerous and they will start a war to remain in power. When that happens, America is dead. No microchips = nothing. They know this which is why I suspect they will take over Taiwan. The west will collapse. China will rule with a tight iron hammer and only those they like will get chips. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71720846 They also reneged on their NWO pledge. They never meant to do it in full just enough to get to the top. Now the NWO no longer has China. They may have saved us from the NWO but it will lead to total destruction. Peace. The Chicoms have definitely lost the "mandate of heaven." COVID started the ball rolling. And China/Taiwan are not the only sources for computer chips. US, South Korea, and Japan will have to rapidly adjust their supply chains. We should be doing it already. An even bigger issue is Rare Earth Minerals where China controls 70% of the global market. Rare earth elements aren’t actually rare, they’re just dirty to mine and a lot of previous sources shut down and we exported the pollution to China. Other sources elsewhere can re-open. Biden just gave the Chicoms another Rare Earth Mineral "goldmine" in Afghanistan. LoneStarRising |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80649250 United States 09/14/2021 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: China's 'Lehman Moment' - The Black Swan Has Landed: Evergrande Hires Bankruptcy Advisors As Furious Investors Protest Imminent Default However the dynamics changed, perhaps too late for the CCP to put the genie back in the bottle......the growing middle class travels and is exposed to other cultures via social media regardless how tight the CCP controls it......they see and hear what's going on in Hong Kong......its not like controlling a bunch of peasants fresh from the fields like the old daze..... Quoting: peterpeccary Chinese tourism and purchases of luxury goods is very high......a quick search bears this out......the kids of the original middle class are extreme consumers.....when its taken away, there will be dissent..... Partly true. But look at the way the political left has gotten its grubby little fingers into just about every nook and cranny of American life. And people of the left in the US are pikers compared with the leftwing in post-Mao, Xi-era China. Underestimating the manipulations and inhumanity of the political left is a dangerous game to play. |
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krayzie
User ID: 80800491 Canada 09/14/2021 11:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: China's 'Lehman Moment' - The Black Swan Has Landed: Evergrande Hires Bankruptcy Advisors As Furious Investors Protest Imminent Default The timing seems very engineered just like all the puppet leaders worldwide starting to get turned on by the people lately. Maybe everything has to blow up all at the same time. This will definitely affect the supply chains coming from China. Then add people dying en mass from the vax and possible volcanos earthquakes and asteroids. Dark winter will be a ton of fun lol! |
krayzie
User ID: 80800491 Canada 09/14/2021 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: China's 'Lehman Moment' - The Black Swan Has Landed: Evergrande Hires Bankruptcy Advisors As Furious Investors Protest Imminent Default I forgot to mention about war. So if the Chinese financial system goes completely belly up this week, seems perfect timing to start a full scale invasion by the end of next week as the contagion hits overseas markets. |
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User ID: 80103306 United States 09/14/2021 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: China's 'Lehman Moment' - The Black Swan Has Landed: Evergrande Hires Bankruptcy Advisors As Furious Investors Protest Imminent Default This video discusses some other recent happenings which are interesting as well. Editing to add link: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Last Edited by Kiska on 09/14/2021 11:54 AM |
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User ID: 80800491 Canada 09/14/2021 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: China's 'Lehman Moment' - The Black Swan Has Landed: Evergrande Hires Bankruptcy Advisors As Furious Investors Protest Imminent Default Word on the street is that Evergrande will have to declare bankruptcy tomorrow on the 15th. All of their offices now have a mob with pitchforks demanding their money back. |
Tess.
User ID: 33020048 Ireland 09/14/2021 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: China's 'Lehman Moment' - The Black Swan Has Landed: Evergrande Hires Bankruptcy Advisors As Furious Investors Protest Imminent Default Central banks have given governments their marching orders, to sign everybody up to mandatory digital IDs that will form the basis for new financial and social systems Details in thread: https://twitter.com/_/status/1436736209519263744 Civilisation is at a crossroads "Unfortunately the Barbarians dwell among us and our country is grown so weak and pathetic that the Barbarians must be appeased in the name of diversity and cultural sensitivity" ~ Allison Pearson |
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Everything User ID: 80628258 United States 09/14/2021 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: China's 'Lehman Moment' - The Black Swan Has Landed: Evergrande Hires Bankruptcy Advisors As Furious Investors Protest Imminent Default This all has been coming for a while, them going first may surprise some, not me. We are in hot water also. Sorry I got a headache These are the times that tries men's and women's souls! May we come though it victorious! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71080834 United States 09/14/2021 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: China's 'Lehman Moment' - The Black Swan Has Landed: Evergrande Hires Bankruptcy Advisors As Furious Investors Protest Imminent Default The timing seems very engineered just like all the puppet leaders worldwide starting to get turned on by the people lately. Quoting: krayzie Maybe everything has to blow up all at the same time. This will definitely affect the supply chains coming from China. Then add people dying en mass from the vax and possible volcanos earthquakes and asteroids. Dark winter will be a ton of fun lol! Funny, how this broke out within days of the CCP calling Soros a terrorist. Now soros is trying to scare blackrock and others out of chinese investment and blackrock is telling Soros to piss off.….Sum Ting Wong. All is not cozy in elite land. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80704911 United States 09/14/2021 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: China's 'Lehman Moment' - The Black Swan Has Landed: Evergrande Hires Bankruptcy Advisors As Furious Investors Protest Imminent Default Gold and silver plummeted on the news, obviously Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80611761 1 kilo gold bars are expected to be free by next week By October, banks will be paying YOU to store precious metals That's how worthless they are ;-) No gold did not plummet it went straight up dumb fuck The person was joking. (The wink didn't give it away?) But it didn't go "straight up" either. This could definitely be the first domino to "big things". |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80855651 09/14/2021 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: China's 'Lehman Moment' - The Black Swan Has Landed: Evergrande Hires Bankruptcy Advisors As Furious Investors Protest Imminent Default Gold and silver plummeted on the news, obviously Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80611761 1 kilo gold bars are expected to be free by next week By October, banks will be paying YOU to store precious metals That's how worthless they are ;-) No gold did not plummet it went straight up dumb fuck The person was joking. (The wink didn't give it away?) But it didn't go "straight up" either. This could definitely be the first domino to "big things". I don't speak in fucking winks |
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NLPAstrology
User ID: 80216965 United States 09/14/2021 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: China's 'Lehman Moment' - The Black Swan Has Landed: Evergrande Hires Bankruptcy Advisors As Furious Investors Protest Imminent Default china's bubble is popping. Real estate, stocks, and debt markets go boom. This is one more reason china is not the future. Your boob tube fooled you again. The bad news though, is this makes China very dangerous for other countries in the near term, as they will try to divert anger at the ccp to others through Sabre rattling or war. The ccp's goal is to maintain power, and it is slipping our of their hands. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69814298 I've heard similar things. The chinese economy is a bigger ponzi scheme than the U.S. U.S. propaganda likes to paint China as gaining 'enemy number 1' for military industrial purposes, ala cold war, but China is already rotting from the inside. Yes Moran - Adolph Shitler was a Meth-Addict (pervatin) Loser who Invaded Russia in the Winter. Your 'deep research' consisting of Nazi propaganda on Bitchute only suits the dimwitted trailer-dweller. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 49344048 United States 09/14/2021 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: China's 'Lehman Moment' - The Black Swan Has Landed: Evergrande Hires Bankruptcy Advisors As Furious Investors Protest Imminent Default Gold and silver plummeted on the news, obviously Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80611761 1 kilo gold bars are expected to be free by next week By October, banks will be paying YOU to store precious metals That's how worthless they are ;-) No gold did not plummet it went straight up dumb fuck The person was joking. (The wink didn't give it away?) But it didn't go "straight up" either. This could definitely be the first domino to "big things". Irony culture is toxic af, literally anything and everything can be walked back. It's a lame excuse for lying. |
LoneStarRising
(OP) Forum Moderator User ID: 79302506 United States 09/14/2021 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: China's 'Lehman Moment' - The Black Swan Has Landed: Evergrande Hires Bankruptcy Advisors As Furious Investors Protest Imminent Default Did someone already post about the literal, physical black swan that landed in China recently? It drew quite a crowd, which the police eventually discouraged and it was later caught and removed to prevent gawking onlookers. Quoting: Kiska This video discusses some other recent happenings which are interesting as well. Editing to add link: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Thread: A black swan has flown and landed directly in the center of Tiananmen Square, Beijing LoneStarRising |
Flying Elvii
User ID: 79356857 United States 09/14/2021 12:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: China's 'Lehman Moment' - The Black Swan Has Landed: Evergrande Hires Bankruptcy Advisors As Furious Investors Protest Imminent Default china's bubble is popping. Real estate, stocks, and debt markets go boom. This is one more reason china is not the future. Your boob tube fooled you again. The bad news though, is this makes China very dangerous for other countries in the near term, as they will try to divert anger at the ccp to others through Sabre rattling or war. The ccp's goal is to maintain power, and it is slipping our of their hands. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69814298 And they own the majority of US Government Admistrators and Democrats. |
LoneStarRising
(OP) Forum Moderator User ID: 79302506 United States 09/14/2021 12:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: China's 'Lehman Moment' - The Black Swan Has Landed: Evergrande Hires Bankruptcy Advisors As Furious Investors Protest Imminent Default china's bubble is popping. Real estate, stocks, and debt markets go boom. This is one more reason china is not the future. Your boob tube fooled you again. The bad news though, is this makes China very dangerous for other countries in the near term, as they will try to divert anger at the ccp to others through Sabre rattling or war. The ccp's goal is to maintain power, and it is slipping our of their hands. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69814298 And they own the majority of US Government Admistrators and Democrats. And almost all of the MSM. LoneStarRising |
Flying Elvii
User ID: 79356857 United States 09/14/2021 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: China's 'Lehman Moment' - The Black Swan Has Landed: Evergrande Hires Bankruptcy Advisors As Furious Investors Protest Imminent Default china's bubble is popping. Real estate, stocks, and debt markets go boom. This is one more reason china is not the future. Your boob tube fooled you again. The bad news though, is this makes China very dangerous for other countries in the near term, as they will try to divert anger at the ccp to others through Sabre rattling or war. The ccp's goal is to maintain power, and it is slipping our of their hands. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69814298 I've heard similar things. The chinese economy is a bigger ponzi scheme than the U.S. U.S. propaganda likes to paint China as gaining 'enemy number 1' for military industrial purposes, ala cold war, but China is already rotting from the inside. Don’t worry. The US Fed will bail China out with your tax dollars to prevent Systemic Risk “. Ie., To prevent the Cohens from losing money. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80766059 Chile 09/14/2021 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: China's 'Lehman Moment' - The Black Swan Has Landed: Evergrande Hires Bankruptcy Advisors As Furious Investors Protest Imminent Default Nothing what's happening in China is without inspiration and knowledge of Communist Party. They must have initiated it for some reason. Quoting: Sancho0777 Right, spontaneous protests can but don't often happen in China. You always have to discern the spontaneous protests from those engineered/allowed by the CCP and/or promulgated by foreign NGOs. Furthermore, there is the bifurcated structure of Evergrande to consider, as foreign investors in the Cayman Island entity (where the majority of debt exists) may not be able to access funds in the mainland Hengda Group entity (where the majority of assets exist). Furthermore, you have to look at what Chinese oligarchs are involved, as this could be all about disgracing pro-Western oligarchs (eg Jack Ma) by leaving them to twist in the wind? Wait and see. |
krayzie
User ID: 68907455 Canada 09/14/2021 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: China's 'Lehman Moment' - The Black Swan Has Landed: Evergrande Hires Bankruptcy Advisors As Furious Investors Protest Imminent Default So Evergrande has an estimate of about 200k employees. And imagine each also bought into the company themselves. Even the dollar figure for that alone would be massive. Now add all the middle to upper class mainlanders plus oversea contagion since this company owns a lot of real estate outside of China, and you have the perfect formula for disaster. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80285663 United States 09/14/2021 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: China's 'Lehman Moment' - The Black Swan Has Landed: Evergrande Hires Bankruptcy Advisors As Furious Investors Protest Imminent Default It took Evergrande less than a day to go from denying "rumors" of bankruptcy (as per a statement posted on its website earlier today), to confirming that a bankruptcy is imminent. Quoting: LoneStarRising In a filing on the Hong Kong stock exchange on Tuesday, Evergrande which was busy trying to convince angry Chinese mobs that they will get their money and/or apartments and that it has no plans of default, the company all but conceded that a bankruptcy is imminent when it said it has hired notable bankruptcy advisors Houlihan Lokey and Admiralty Harbour Capital as joint FAs to "assess the firm’s capital structure", a well-known euphemism of "prepare to file for bankruptcy." And just so there was no doubt as to what is coming next, the company said if it’s unable to repay debts on time or get creditors to agree to extensions or alternative arrangements, it may lead to cross-default. It quickly went downhill from there, with the company saying that it expects “significant continuing decline” in contract sales in September, resulting in “continuous deterioration” of cash collection, according to the statement. That will place “tremendous pressure” on the group’s cashflow and liquidity. [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] Steve Bannon was speaking about the Chinese debt bubble. |