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Yeah some people really should not be allowed near a gun let alone allowed to own one and the idiots in this thread prove that perfectly.
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The FB snowflake is triggered again. S/he cannot even be creative. Just the same posts repeated, repeated, repeated.

A bit entertaining, actually, in a 'I'm watching SJWs in the wild' kind of way.

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What if it had been a down syndrome kid in the neighborhood just acting socially awkward?



You should not shoot someone unless they are coming into your house or have made their intentions clear outside your house.
 Quoting: Uncle Gintel


yep & I AM TEXAN so wtf had her in fear for her life ?
never mind shooting thru the wall ?
what was the threat ?
etc

has this peeping tom been IDd ?
armed adult ?
stupid kid/minor aged ?
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TXP is that you?
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TXP is arguing in defense of the woman unlike this person.
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4/5 glp people condone police being judge jury and executioner for reasonable suspicion so why is this any different? Cops do far worse than this all the time and they don't get charged.
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A Texas woman fired a rifle through the wall of her home Friday, killing a man who had allegedly been peeping into her window, police said.

"There was an adult female that was in one of the bedrooms who observed him looking into her window. She was in fear. She had a rifle. She shot numerous times through the wall, ending up striking the male. The male ran a little ways and passed out over here. He is dead on the scene," Houston police Lt. R. Willkens told reporters who arrived outside the house Friday night. "We're being told it was a peeping Tom."..

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Wouldn't fly in my state.
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She was not inline with castle doctrine in Texas either contrary to what a bunch of people on this thread think but that doesn't mean she'll be charged or that if she is, that the grand jury will indict.
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A Texas woman fired a rifle through the wall of her home Friday, killing a man who had allegedly been peeping into her window, police said.

"There was an adult female that was in one of the bedrooms who observed him looking into her window. She was in fear. She had a rifle. She shot numerous times through the wall, ending up striking the male. The male ran a little ways and passed out over here. He is dead on the scene," Houston police Lt. R. Willkens told reporters who arrived outside the house Friday night. "We're being told it was a peeping Tom."..

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Wouldn't fly in my state.

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Of course not blau state commies love when innocent whites are attacked.
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I'm not advocating for men or boys to go peep in anybody's windows. All I'm saying is that maybe our society can give a little leeway to a curious teenager?

We have so "pussified" or, let me by more polite - "feminized" the males in our culture. We beat their "toxic masculinity" out at every turn. We're at the point now where a sexually curious kid now deserves a death sentence without a trial, judge or jury.

How much ore are we going to beat it out of them. You know, the west is going down the tubes because we don't raise men anymore. We shame and beat the testosterone out of them at every turn.

At the same time, we coddle the girls and give them a primadonna complex, telling them they have the right to, say, blow the brains out of a guy that looks at her.

I just don't like where this is going. But it's too late anyway.
 Quoting: Off Grid AZ


Strawman bullshit. This is about trespassing. But for HIS actions trespassing on another's property, he would still be alive. Full stop.
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 Quoting: TXP


Wow. That's very stringent of you. You wanna go around blowing people away for stuff like that, be my guest.

But I notice that nobody picked up on my point about destroying the masculinity of our boys. Don't you remember when it was a cute, normal and even expected thing that a boy might go try to catch a glimpse of a girl?

Why must we now become so stringent about that stuff. It's just kid stuff. It's just human nature. If that were your son, would you want his brains blown out by some paranoid woman?

Look. I had a break in about a year ago. I got my gun out, I called 911, I was terrified but I was willing to use the gun in self defense if necessary. But I would never try to shoot a fucking peeping Tom, FFS.
 Quoting: Off Grid AZ


No, not "stringent" just reality. And, I would have taught my son personal responsibility from jump.

We did "pick up" on your unrelated topic, but as stated, it's unrelated. This is an issue of trespassing. Had he not trespassed, he would not have experienced these consequences.

How do you know that's how she characterized him? You don't know any more than I know if she feared for her life.

Concerning your last statement, are you projecting your morality onto others?
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I'm saying how about a little humanity.

Also, WTF with these women? I'm a woman, I don't go around blowing the brains out of everything because I'm scared as shit.

"Trespassing" should not be a death sentence. But I'll tell you what, you come around here and I'll do my best to get to you before the trained attack dogs rip your throat out. Not that anybody would make it out here...
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A Texas woman fired a rifle through the wall of her home Friday, killing a man who had allegedly been peeping into her window, police said.

"There was an adult female that was in one of the bedrooms who observed him looking into her window. She was in fear. She had a rifle. She shot numerous times through the wall, ending up striking the male. The male ran a little ways and passed out over here. He is dead on the scene," Houston police Lt. R. Willkens told reporters who arrived outside the house Friday night. "We're being told it was a peeping Tom."..

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Wouldn't fly in my state.
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Nor should it... kicking the door or smashing the windows out or menacing with a weapon from outside OK they'd probably do everything they could do to throw the lady a bone.

There is simply nothing here to hang her hat on.
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4/5 glp people condone police being judge jury and executioner for reasonable suspicion so why is this any different? Cops do far worse than this all the time and they don't get charged.
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It isn't different. Qualified immunity should be abolished and people should respect laws as long as they are righteous because our society requires a common moral code to operate by and unfortunately there are too many people who don't have one so the law is the next best thing we have.
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4/5 glp people condone police being judge jury and executioner for reasonable suspicion so why is this any different? Cops do far worse than this all the time and they don't get charged.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79411927


It isn't different. Qualified immunity should be abolished and people should respect laws as long as they are righteous because our society requires a common moral code to operate by and unfortunately there are too many people who don't have one so the law is the next best thing we have.
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I don't. I support the police, in general. But they're just people and if they screw up, I want it to go through our legal system.
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You guys really think the dude was all daffy at her window sill?

Even so, is that a legal use of deadly force?

I mean, maybe he was making serious eye contact while he was stroking it?
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What if it had been a down syndrome kid in the neighborhood just acting socially awkward?



You should not shoot someone unless they are coming into your house or have made their intentions clear outside your house.
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In Texas we shoot people for Criminal Mischief at Night.

It is the Law. Everyone here knows it.
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see if you call it mischief when some creep is peering in your 7 yo daughters window at night.
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Criminal Mischief at Night is the legal term.

See 2A

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"Trespassing" should not be a death sentence. But I'll tell you what, you come around here and I'll do my best to get to you before the trained attack dogs rip your throat out. Not that anybody would make it out here...
 Quoting: Off Grid AZ


and..when your precious guard dogs are gunned down by the perps? Then what? Now you have two dogs dead and thugs now ready to breach your front door and more angry due to the dogs...You wasted time and put your life in danger...now you will have to repel mortal enemies in your own home.


Fact is we have NO "Rule of Law" anymore in the USA, the
gov't is corrupt, the courts are corrupt, the law enfarcement just as corrupt and even more dangerous to innocent citizens ( I speak from experience).

Wake up sleepy head, it is EVERY MAN (OR WOMAN) FOR THEMSELVES!
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4/5 glp people condone police being judge jury and executioner for reasonable suspicion so why is this any different? Cops do far worse than this all the time and they don't get charged.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79411927


It isn't different. Qualified immunity should be abolished and people should respect laws as long as they are righteous because our society requires a common moral code to operate by and unfortunately there are too many people who don't have one so the law is the next best thing we have.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74474575


I don't. I support the police, in general. But they're just people and if they screw up, I want it to go through our legal system.
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You don't what?
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A Texas woman fired a rifle through the wall of her home Friday, killing a man who had allegedly been peeping into her window, police said.

"There was an adult female that was in one of the bedrooms who observed him looking into her window. She was in fear. She had a rifle. She shot numerous times through the wall, ending up striking the male. The male ran a little ways and passed out over here. He is dead on the scene," Houston police Lt. R. Willkens told reporters who arrived outside the house Friday night. "We're being told it was a peeping Tom."..

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 Quoting: DeploraVision ™


Wouldn't fly in my state.

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Of course not blau state commies love when innocent whites are attacked.

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Well I could go pick a fight with the person tresspassing on my property than I'd have a reason to shoot them. tounge
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There is a lot that could have been going on that was not conveyed in the short article.

Like was he a peeping Tom or a guy getting ready to conduct a hit job and shoot her through the window?

Or was he one of a team of guys getting ready to launch a home invasion?

It said she had eyes on him through the window, and for whatever reason shot through the wall. I assume shooting from the hip while still eyes on the target? That might at least dismiss the wreckless endangerment aspect if she could see the person she was shooting at. Shooting from the hip can be very accurate with a little practice.

Did he have a history of break ins or sex crimes?
Was there a history of guys breaking in, raping and then killing women in the area?

I could probably get her off. ;)
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"Trespassing" should not be a death sentence. But I'll tell you what, you come around here and I'll do my best to get to you before the trained attack dogs rip your throat out. Not that anybody would make it out here...
 Quoting: Off Grid AZ


and..when your precious guard dogs are gunned down by the perps? Then what? Now you have two dogs dead and thugs now ready to breach your front door and more angry due to the dogs...You wasted time and put your life in danger...now you will have to repel mortal enemies in your own home.


Fact is we have NO "Rule of Law" anymore in the USA, the
gov't is corrupt, the courts are corrupt, the law enfarcement just as corrupt and even more dangerous to innocent citizens ( I speak from experience).

Wake up sleepy head, it is EVERY MAN (OR WOMAN) FOR THEMSELVES!

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LOL, dude, I live on a compound with well over 10 people and several dogs.

We are prepped to the max, just waiting for society to collapse.

I say bring it. I'm in the mood for a fight.
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They won't come after the people hiding in the mountains...they can accomplish their goal by subjugating the masses in the cities.
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"Trespassing" should not be a death sentence. But I'll tell you what, you come around here and I'll do my best to get to you before the trained attack dogs rip your throat out. Not that anybody would make it out here...
 Quoting: Off Grid AZ


and..when your precious guard dogs are gunned down by the perps? Then what? Now you have two dogs dead and thugs now ready to breach your front door and more angry due to the dogs...You wasted time and put your life in danger...now you will have to repel mortal enemies in your own home.


Fact is we have NO "Rule of Law" anymore in the USA, the
gov't is corrupt, the courts are corrupt, the law enfarcement just as corrupt and even more dangerous to innocent citizens ( I speak from experience).

Wake up sleepy head, it is EVERY MAN (OR WOMAN) FOR THEMSELVES!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80860679


LOL, dude, I live on a compound with well over 10 people and several dogs.

We are prepped to the max, just waiting for society to collapse.

I say bring it. I'm in the mood for a fight.
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Save your dogs for warning you, and
meet the threat head on...
and as I said, NEVER, and I mean NEVER, EVER call
"Law Enfarcement" if you truly believe you used deadly force to fend off a mortal threat. Make the threat vanish into thin air and forget the whole thing. The cops are NOT
there to protect you.
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And peering into a bedroom window at 11P? No.
 Quoting: TXP


Very likely he did a wrong thing. Very likely he's a creep. The penalty for those things isn't death. What if she had

(1) taken his picture
(2) set up security around her house
(3) gotten a court order of protection and/or published his photo to embarrass him with everyone.
(4) reported it to the cops so HE would be arrested for something, rather than her getting arrested.
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You are living in a damn fantasy world, some comfy little cocoon you've created for yourself so you don't have to face reality. Apparently, you believe criminals care about laws, and I bet you also believe all people who appear sane are sane and, further, that everyone besides "psychopaths" have the full traits of humanity.

Do you seriously believe a camera, waiting for law enforcement, a damn piece of paper will protect you from a person with malicious intent? I suppose we should all try to reason with these individuals, too, yes?

Court order...publish it...embarrass him? You are kidding right? What exactly do you believe drives this type of criminal behavior? Do you think people with miswired brains can be shamed or punished into being moral or following the law? The actions you suggest will amplify a stalker's behavior (also anyone who falls in the clinical Cluster B disorders).

You have no idea what it feels like to be human prey by (untreated mentally ill but functional and socially acceptable) predators. You also do not understand the capabilities of such people or the prevalence of these individuals across all demographics, because if you did understand these experiences and facts, I doubt you would be making such absurd suggestions.

Protect yourself first.

A bit of advice: do not ever, ever underestimate the capabilities of a person without empathy or the full traits of humanity. Ever.

Personally, I would have held him at gunpoint until LE arrived and shot him if he dared move one muscle, but if she feared for her life, then she was fully acting within her rights on her private property against a trespasser peering through her windows at 11P.

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 Quoting: TXP


I know it was a dangerous situation. That's why I suggested sitting inside with her rifle, ready to shoot in case of an attempted break-in. Then it would be justified.

But you can't just shoot someone because you're scared and he or she might be a bad person. At least I think not. It's not my legal opinion that matters, it's more of a prediction on how this will go.

I am not in any fantasy world. Some situations are dangerous. You have to sit in them and minimize your risks or take calculated risks, but sometimes there's no way or no legal way to eliminate all the risks because they cause far too much risk to others.

Like in case this was a guy who wanted to see some T&A.
That's a creep but not a threat to life.
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all he had to do was look on his computer.

much simpler than trespassing.

you can even see it here and not have to trespass!

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"Trespassing" should not be a death sentence. But I'll tell you what, you come around here and I'll do my best to get to you before the trained attack dogs rip your throat out. Not that anybody would make it out here...
 Quoting: Off Grid AZ


and..when your precious guard dogs are gunned down by the perps? Then what? Now you have two dogs dead and thugs now ready to breach your front door and more angry due to the dogs...You wasted time and put your life in danger...now you will have to repel mortal enemies in your own home.


Fact is we have NO "Rule of Law" anymore in the USA, the
gov't is corrupt, the courts are corrupt, the law enfarcement just as corrupt and even more dangerous to innocent citizens ( I speak from experience).

Wake up sleepy head, it is EVERY MAN (OR WOMAN) FOR THEMSELVES!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80860679


LOL, dude, I live on a compound with well over 10 people and several dogs.

We are prepped to the max, just waiting for society to collapse.

I say bring it. I'm in the mood for a fight.
 Quoting: Off Grid AZ



Save your dogs for warning you, and
meet the threat head on...
and as I said, NEVER, and I mean NEVER, EVER call
"Law Enfarcement" if you truly believe you used deadly force to fend off a mortal threat. Make the threat vanish into thin air and forget the whole thing. The cops are NOT
there to protect you.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80860679


Thanks friend, we don't rely on cops out here. We're not even "rural", we're pretty damned remote.

We ARE the cops. We don't call 911. My family has put 10 years into this place. I just showed up late and donated some money to the project.

Out here, there are real men, and they all know how to shoot. None of this feminizing BS, CRT, etc....no. They will kill your ass. But that said, we still don't shoot goofballs....we don't really live in that society anymore.

But the men here and the women will shoot you dead if you pose a REAL threat.
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Gun dealers on a holy tear in this thread - proving they'd do anything, say anything to sell a dumbo like the woman in the story a gun
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Gun dealers on a holy tear in this thread - proving they'd do anything, say anything to sell a dumbo like the woman in the story a gun
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I don't think you really understand America. You should get out of your big, blue, dirty ass city and see what most of this country is about.
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I don't think you really understand America. You should get out of your big, blue, dirty ass city and see what most of this country is about.
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It's about to fall and fall hard - thanks in part to the fear mongerers in the gun business
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When the thugs come for you, make sure to beg and plead for your life...lol Maybe if you are lucky they will make you their biotch.
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What if it had been a down syndrome kid in the neighborhood just acting socially awkward?



You should not shoot someone unless they are coming into your house or have made their intentions clear outside your house.
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In most states this is murder. Call a cop.
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What if it had been a down syndrome kid in the neighborhood just acting socially awkward?



You should not shoot someone unless they are coming into your house or have made their intentions clear outside your house.
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In most states this is murder. Call a cop.
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I bet you're a thug...
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I don't think you really understand America. You should get out of your big, blue, dirty ass city and see what most of this country is about.
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It's about to fall and fall hard - thanks in part to the fear mongerers in the gun business
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We'll see what happens. I can't talk about it here.
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If someone is prowling around my house at night, I’m going to assume that they have nefarious intent. While I wouldn’t shoot unless I felt threatened, you can be damn sure that they are going to find the barrel of a gun in their face.

I have children to protect.
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When the thugs come for you, make sure to beg and plead for your life...lol Maybe if you are lucky they will make you their biotch.
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Who talks like that? Not a fully-grown adult that's for sure
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If someone is prowling around my house at night, I’m going to assume that they have nefarious intent. While I wouldn’t shoot unless I felt threatened, you can be damn sure that they are going to find the barrel of a gun in their face.

I have children to protect.
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You don't point a gun at anything you don't intend to kill.
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