Texas woman uses rifle to shoot, kill alleged 'Peeping Tom' caught peering into bedroom window | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73932315 United States 09/14/2021 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What if it had been a down syndrome kid in the neighborhood just acting socially awkward? Quoting: Uncle Gintel You should not shoot someone unless they are coming into your house or have made their intentions clear outside your house. Bullshit. When threatened, kill first, ask questions later. Don't take chances with your life. |
beeches
User ID: 78973486 United States 09/14/2021 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't agree with cold murdering a dude who wanted to see some T&A. Quoting: Off Grid AZ Our kids are neutered and so fucked up that they are choosing, at age 12, to be a fucking trans abomination. I'm behind any young guy with testosterone that wants to see a "naked lady". As long as he doesn't rape, that would be over the line. But damn, why do we want to fucking blow the brains out of any guy with testosterone? Don't we sort of need them? Biden loves you Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6954364 United States 09/14/2021 06:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | She murdered him for peeping in her window? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80146937 Does the punishment fit the crime? Is it ok if someone just peeps at your mom, wife, daughter, Etc.? No, and what if he decides it’s a touching thing…or worse…. I don’t agree with shooting through the wall….mainly because if you have neighbors and you don’t worry about beyond your target , you’ll accidentally kill your neighbors, their dog or someone else that’s an unintended target. If she did it right, she would have called police….and only shooting if there was a real threat to her life, or he started to enter the home. Then stood her ground in the house with her firearm. IF cops didn't have a bad track record of shooting the homeowner who makes the call, I'd tend to agree with you, but even in the best case scenario, their response time is measured in minutes, when you could die in seconds. Maybe he was making a rapey-face at her when she caught him peeping? Or are you going to argue that he was just doing research for his school report? |
anon_cow
User ID: 79759403 United States 09/14/2021 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nobody here knows the facts and details of this case. If she had a reasonable fear of imminent harm then the shooting was most likely justified. If not... then no. However, in a liberal city like Houston she better have evidence or a really good story that she told only to her lawyer. If she talked to the police other than "I feared for my life" she's probably in for a bad time. If she doesn't have money for lawyers she's probably also going to have a bad time with this. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76538212 United States 09/14/2021 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What's wrong with closing your curtains after dark? Needless death. I'm afraid she did it wrong and it's probably going to prison unless she gets a high dollar lawyer. I'm a woman who's husband works a night shift, I'm also a GOP. I keep a 9mm all the time, I'm also a Texan. Here we have castle laws, we can shoot if your messing with our house or even our vehicles as long as they are on our own property. I keep a rough brick by my car in the yard so if I kill someone, I can put it in their hand and say they started to rush me. |
Off Grid AZ
User ID: 80770005 United States 09/14/2021 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know what, I don't even care anymore. I hope that we cull at least 2/3rds of the planet with this graphene oxide mRNA shit. This is Planet Gaslight inhabited by a bunch of dumb, stinky apes. HAVE AT IT! You know what, shoot the fuck out of everyone. Go for it. Unjabbed and Off Grid |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77598481 United States 09/14/2021 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I NEVER thought I would kinda sorta agree with Uncle Gintel. Quoting: Trained Noticer But here I am. I think this situation calls for some serious "Home Alone" type retaliation, But shooting through a wall at an unknown person outside? No. Not for me. I'd go check the dude outside, armed, and dispatch if necessary. I know a chick probably would not be comfortable with that, and rightly so. But blast away? I think not. Call a man friend to help or the cops. Be ready. If he breaks, enters, etc, BLAST AWAY. Not blindly through a wall. :bf81: Yeah man, that's reasonable. |
Uncle Gintel
User ID: 80870640 United States 09/14/2021 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It sounds like rather than attacking each other, maybe both sides have some valid points and we need to wait for more info. It was almost irresponsible to publish this story without more facts, but the news probably did it on purpose. Just don't be so quick to cheer taking life. I also think women have the right to feel safe. This is the great responsibility we all take when owning a firearm as it can take life so quickly. I hope the guys actually ends up being weird bc I don't want to see some old lady go to jail either. |
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Trained Noticer
Forum Moderator User ID: 80558422 United States 09/14/2021 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I NEVER thought I would kinda sorta agree with Uncle Gintel. Quoting: Trained Noticer But here I am. I think this situation calls for some serious "Home Alone" type retaliation, But shooting through a wall at an unknown person outside? No. Not for me. I'd go check the dude outside, armed, and dispatch if necessary. I know a chick probably would not be comfortable with that, and rightly so. But blast away? I think not. Call a man friend to help or the cops. Be ready. If he breaks, enters, etc, BLAST AWAY. Not blindly through a wall. How do you know he didn't say, "I'm gonna rape your cunt, bitch!"? Because that's what the guy that broke in on my wife at Stillwater when she was at OSU said to her right before jammed a Bic pen in his face. I don't know. That's my point. Based on the little info we have, I stated my response. If there was more to the story, i.e. the fucker actually did or said something threatening, he would have been rightfully and promptly dispatched. For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible. (Stuart Chase) It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. (Mark Twain) |
Trained Noticer
Forum Moderator User ID: 80558422 United States 09/14/2021 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't agree with cold murdering a dude who wanted to see some T&A. Quoting: Off Grid AZ Our kids are neutered and so fucked up that they are choosing, at age 12, to be a fucking trans abomination. I'm behind any young guy with testosterone that wants to see a "naked lady". As long as he doesn't rape, that would be over the line. But damn, why do we want to fucking blow the brains out of any guy with testosterone? Don't we sort of need them? Biden loves you For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible. (Stuart Chase) It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. (Mark Twain) |
libpoker
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oniongrass
User ID: 80835184 United States 09/14/2021 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | She'll be convicted of first degree manslaughter with a side order of assault with the intent to inflict great bodily harm. It'll be 15 years before the nutter gets to see her gun again Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72444858 There will be no trial, she was defending herself from a trespasser, who was involved in voyeurism, and sizing up a possible opportunity to rape the victim. It's clear that criminal minds run in families as you have demonstrated. You take their picture, call the cops, set up cameras, get a court order of protection if you know the identity of the person, sit with your rifle in case there's a breakin so you can shoot then. I don't think you can just shoot because someone's looking in your window. You do realize that's how many women and girls DIE ? They take all the suggested recommended "legal" actions and still end up dead! Legal papers, pictures, ect do NOT stop criminals from harming people, wake up snowflake. Usually the law enfarcement clowns show up 15 or 20 minutes after the criminal has either murdered or severely injured the victim. You probably missed sit with your rifle in case there's a breakin so you can shoot then. . DON'T VAX, PROPHYLAX! ____________ There is no anger in Me: If one offers Me thorns and thistles, I will march to battle against him, And set all of them on fire. But if he holds fast to My refuge, He makes Me his friend; He makes Me his friend. (Isaiah 27:4-5) |
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Phillip J. Fry
User ID: 79225945 United States 09/14/2021 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Be a different story if she plugged the neighbor’s baby sleeping in the crib. Just blazing away in the dark is reckless. . "Don't do anything that affects anything. Unless it turns out you were supposed to do it, in which case for the love of God. Don't not do it!" |
Xeven
User ID: 80683137 United States 09/14/2021 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What if it had been a down syndrome kid in the neighborhood just acting socially awkward? Quoting: Uncle Gintel You should not shoot someone unless they are coming into your house or have made their intentions clear outside your house. Last Edited by Xeven on 09/14/2021 06:35 PM I reserve the right to declare my comments and posts as satire. Nothing I post should be considered or interpreted as advocacy for illegal activity. My comments are designed to inspire critical political thinking. I only mean half of what I say and only say half of what I mean. |
Xeven
User ID: 80683137 United States 09/14/2021 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't agree with cold murdering a dude who wanted to see some T&A. Quoting: Off Grid AZ Our kids are neutered and so fucked up that they are choosing, at age 12, to be a fucking trans abomination. I'm behind any young guy with testosterone that wants to see a "naked lady". As long as he doesn't rape, that would be over the line. But damn, why do we want to fucking blow the brains out of any guy with testosterone? Don't we sort of need them? Biden loves you I reserve the right to declare my comments and posts as satire. Nothing I post should be considered or interpreted as advocacy for illegal activity. My comments are designed to inspire critical political thinking. I only mean half of what I say and only say half of what I mean. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80860679 United States 09/14/2021 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did they name the peeping tom yet? Illegal? Low IQ dindunothing? Or repeat registered offender out on probation/parole? Texas woman did the 'hood a favor! I was thinking that was possible too... this is also why in her situation you should NEVER EVER contact law enfarcement if you believed your life was in mortal danger! DO NOT CONTACT THEM! They are NOT there to help potential victims but only to make money off of them. |
Rorschach Watchmen
User ID: 71007577 United States 09/14/2021 06:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Right wing fantasizing. She will be lucky if she is not charged. Quoting: Uncle Gintel Nobody was trying to force entry so she can't show it was justification for use of deadly force. This would not even hold up under castle law. She should have called to police. If he was trying to gain entry, then it is a use of deadly force. You guys should really brush up on your laws before you end up a soap boy in jail. Right wing, so it’s political now. “When you’re dead you’re dead, but you’re not quite so dead if you contribute something” -John Dunsworth |
oniongrass
User ID: 80835184 United States 09/14/2021 06:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Very likely he did a wrong thing. Very likely he's a creep. The penalty for those things isn't death. What if she had (1) taken his picture (2) set up security around her house (3) gotten a court order of protection and/or published his photo to embarrass him with everyone. (4) reported it to the cops so HE would be arrested for something, rather than her getting arrested. You are living in a damn fantasy world, some comfy little cocoon you've created for yourself so you don't have to face reality. Apparently, you believe criminals care about laws, and I bet you also believe all people who appear sane are sane and, further, that everyone besides "psychopaths" have the full traits of humanity. Do you seriously believe a camera, waiting for law enforcement, a damn piece of paper will protect you from a person with malicious intent? I suppose we should all try to reason with these individuals, too, yes? Court order...publish it...embarrass him? You are kidding right? What exactly do you believe drives this type of criminal behavior? Do you think people with miswired brains can be shamed or punished into being moral or following the law? The actions you suggest will amplify a stalker's behavior (also anyone who falls in the clinical Cluster B disorders). You have no idea what it feels like to be human prey by (untreated mentally ill but functional and socially acceptable) predators. You also do not understand the capabilities of such people or the prevalence of these individuals across all demographics, because if you did understand these experiences and facts, I doubt you would be making such absurd suggestions. Protect yourself first. A bit of advice: do not ever, ever underestimate the capabilities of a person without empathy or the full traits of humanity. Ever. Personally, I would have held him at gunpoint until LE arrived and shot him if he dared move one muscle, but if she feared for her life, then she was fully acting within her rights on her private property against a trespasser peering through her windows at 11P. . I know it was a dangerous situation. That's why I suggested sitting inside with her rifle, ready to shoot in case of an attempted break-in. Then it would be justified. But you can't just shoot someone because you're scared and he or she might be a bad person. At least I think not. It's not my legal opinion that matters, it's more of a prediction on how this will go. I am not in any fantasy world. Some situations are dangerous. You have to sit in them and minimize your risks or take calculated risks, but sometimes there's no way or no legal way to eliminate all the risks because they cause far too much risk to others. Like in case this was a guy who wanted to see some T&A. That's a creep but not a threat to life. . DON'T VAX, PROPHYLAX! ____________ There is no anger in Me: If one offers Me thorns and thistles, I will march to battle against him, And set all of them on fire. But if he holds fast to My refuge, He makes Me his friend; He makes Me his friend. (Isaiah 27:4-5) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80860679 United States 09/14/2021 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know it was a dangerous situation. That's why I suggested sitting inside with her rifle, ready to shoot in case of an attempted break-in. Then it would be justified. But you can't just shoot someone because you're scared and he or she might be a bad person. At least I think not. It's not my legal opinion that matters, it's more of a prediction on how this will go. I am not in any fantasy world. Some situations are dangerous. You have to sit in them and minimize your risks or take calculated risks, but sometimes there's no way or no legal way to eliminate all the risks because they cause far too much risk to others. Like in case this was a guy who wanted to see some T&A. That's a creep but not a threat to life. Didn't you get the message yet? We have no "Rule of Law" in the USA anymore, the fraudulent Presidential Election proves it among other things... It is EVERY man for himself, and you must protect yourself accordingly, law enfarcement and courts are corrupt and cannot ever be trusted to dispense "Justice". |
ZeroGravity
User ID: 80285889 United States 09/14/2021 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Democrats will probably want her arrested, because they lost a voter. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78919005 Death has never stopped a democratic voter from casting a vote, hell a death even turns a deceased Republican voter into a democratic vote! "America was not built on fear. America was built on courage, on imagination and an unbeatable determination to do the job at hand." Harry S Truman "If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under." Ronald Reagan "A truly strong person does not need the approval of others any more than a lion needs the approval of sheep." Vernon Howard |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80870072 United States 09/14/2021 06:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “ being a alleged peeping tom should not result in the death penalty” He didn’t die because he was a “peeping Tom” ! He died because his ACTIONS made her fear for her life! I can always tell the emotional state of a Texas Woman . . . by looking at her hands . . . iffin she is holding a gun it is “done” too LATE! About 1916 my Grandmother was a young bride in a one room “house” late one night in an Arizona mining town near the Mexican border . . .someone tried to pry the window open - My GRANDMOTHER FIRED AT THE CORNER BEING pryed open. . .there was no dead body out side of the “house” when my GRANDFATHER returned from work ! There was one man with an arm in a sling - in town-but lots of people got injured working at that time and place ! Importance: My GRANDMOTHER SURVIVED-she had 6 children survived to adulthood including my Mother that had three children! Do I care that an idiot could have died by a gunshot fired by my GRANDMOTHER! (The Most kind & Loving person I have ever known- & I saw her share what little she had with any race or people that needed help!) I believe I APPRECIATE MY EXISTENCE more than I care about the existence of a criminal that took ACTION TO ENDANGER his life! Same for my 18 Cousins, their CHILDREN & GRANDCHILDREN, and GREAT GRANDCHILDREN! Clear enough? |
Trained Noticer
Forum Moderator User ID: 80558422 United States 09/14/2021 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “ being a alleged peeping tom should not result in the death penalty” Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80870072 He didn’t die because he was a “peeping Tom” ! He died because his ACTIONS made her fear for her life! I can always tell the emotional state of a Texas Woman . . . by looking at her hands . . . iffin she is holding a gun it is “done” too LATE! About 1916 my Grandmother was a young bride in a one room “house” late one night in an Arizona mining town near the Mexican border . . .someone tried to pry the window open - My GRANDMOTHER FIRED AT THE CORNER BEING pryed open. . .there was no dead body out side of the “house” when my GRANDFATHER returned from work ! There was one man with an arm in a sling - in town-but lots of people got injured working at that time and place ! Importance: My GRANDMOTHER SURVIVED-she had 6 children survived to adulthood including my Mother that had three children! Do I care that an idiot could have died by a gunshot fired by my GRANDMOTHER! (The Most kind & Loving person I have ever known- & I saw her share what little she had with any race or people that needed help!) I believe I APPRECIATE MY EXISTENCE more than I care about the existence of a criminal that took ACTION TO ENDANGER his life! Same for my 18 Cousins, their CHILDREN & GRANDCHILDREN, and GREAT GRANDCHILDREN! Clear enough? Good for her! "..tried to pry the widow"... Absolutely, BLAST AWAY !! We don't have all the info from the story at hand. If there was "prying", It was a well justified response. IMHO. I think we are in agreement here. For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible. (Stuart Chase) It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. (Mark Twain) |
sd25802
User ID: 77598093 United States 09/14/2021 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It probably will end up being a weirdo, and I like seeing the weirdos get it too. Quoting: Uncle Gintel I am just saying that shooting someone at 11 pm through a wall who is outside is a bad idea. Unless they are smashing the side of your house with an ax, there is no way to know who you are killing. It could be your neighbor's buddy playing a prank and he got the wrong house. You don't know. Hate to sorta agree - but this is not good gun control - better to simply exit to the back yard and get a good clean shot at the target then decide if you wanna pew pew or issue commands...gun control |
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Off Grid AZ
User ID: 80770005 United States 09/14/2021 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't agree with cold murdering a dude who wanted to see some T&A. Quoting: Off Grid AZ Our kids are neutered and so fucked up that they are choosing, at age 12, to be a fucking trans abomination. I'm behind any young guy with testosterone that wants to see a "naked lady". As long as he doesn't rape, that would be over the line. But damn, why do we want to fucking blow the brains out of any guy with testosterone? Don't we sort of need them? Biden loves you Are you serious? God knows how many women Biden finger fucked, raped or worse. You demean my point to make a cheap political jab. You go shoot it up, honey. As many as you can get. Did you ever have a son? Why can't women grow the fuck up instead of feeling the need to blindly shoot perceived threats? I usually agree with you but fuck off for that comment. Unjabbed and Off Grid |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80124559 United States 09/14/2021 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It probably will end up being a weirdo, and I like seeing the weirdos get it too. Quoting: Uncle Gintel I am just saying that shooting someone at 11 pm through a wall who is outside is a bad idea. Unless they are smashing the side of your house with an ax, there is no way to know who you are killing. It could be your neighbor's buddy playing a prank and he got the wrong house. You don't know. Hate to sorta agree - but this is not good gun control - better to simply exit to the back yard and get a good clean shot at the target then decide if you wanna pew pew or issue commands...gun control yea but exiting your home and looking for a good clean shot on someone who hasnt broken a window or made a single threat is totally unlawful. at least if you go take the shot un provoked. holding someone at gunpoint who is trespassing is far different than shooting them on site un-announced. now if i owned land out in the country and some motherfucker came up creepin on my window it'd be lights out and time to start diggin, but in the city that was a foolish fucking move. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79263821 United States 09/14/2021 07:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What's wrong with closing your curtains after dark? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76538212 Needless death. I'm afraid she did it wrong and it's probably going to prison unless she gets a high dollar lawyer. I'm a woman who's husband works a night shift, I'm also a GOP. I keep a 9mm all the time, I'm also a Texan. Here we have castle laws, we can shoot if your messing with our house or even our vehicles as long as they are on our own property. I keep a rough brick by my car in the yard so if I kill someone, I can put it in their hand and say they started to rush me. muslims say the same thing to their women. what's wrong with covering yourself from head to toe? what's wrong with always having a male chaperone. if you tempt men, it's your fault whore. |
TXP
User ID: 49472915 United States 09/14/2021 07:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know it was a dangerous situation. That's why I suggested sitting inside with her rifle, ready to shoot in case of an attempted break-in. Then it would be justified. Quoting: oniongrass But you can't just shoot someone because you're scared and he or she might be a bad person. At least I think not. It's not my legal opinion that matters, it's more of a prediction on how this will go. I am not in any fantasy world. Some situations are dangerous. You have to sit in them and minimize your risks or take calculated risks, but sometimes there's no way or no legal way to eliminate all the risks because they cause far too much risk to others. Like in case this was a guy who wanted to see some T&A. That's a creep but not a threat to life. If you are in TX and on your property and your safety or person is being threatened, yes, you can, and she did. She will have to live with that decision, but if she felt her life was in danger, that she was in danger, she was within her rights to defend her person. But for HIS actions, he would still be alive. How do you know he was the person you describe? What do you believe she was experiencing in her home on her property at 11P when a trespassing man peers through her bedroom window? Give that a little thought. Finally, one does not "sit in" a dangerous or life threatening situation and contemplate risks as if you are making an employment decision or purchasing a new home. Your physiology kicks in and you must make immediate decisions to protect yourself and save your life. It's clear you've never had these experiences, and I hope you never do, but I recommend preparing now both psychologically/mentally and tactically so you'll be in a better position to respond should you be faced with a survival decision. Cheers! . Last Edited by TXP on 09/14/2021 07:22 PM . "Stop the lockdown. Stop the masks. Stick your vaccine up your ass." - Tess....AMEN! "What does CENSORSHIP reveal? It reveals FEAR." - Julian Assange . |