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Job shortage MY ASS - try getting a mid to senior level position

 
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I am in the same boat as a chief operations executive and have applied to over 200 jobs at all levels of management- I spent $4K on my resume and for supposedly the best agent to send bulk mailing to recruiters. The whole thing is a con. I get private equity groups calling just to pump me for information, no job, or BS investment opportunities.
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Yep, same boat my friend. Been applying even for remote positions. Its always the same, your resume is OUTSTANDING, however, we moved on to someone else. So I ask, what was the defining skill you went with.... usually some Bullshit software platform, that no one uses. Im like shit Ive got a degree in computer science, Engineering and business, dont think it would be an issue learning something like that... oh, well we already made our decision.

BS the whole thing.
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The job has to be posted. HR forces mgt to interview at least top 3 applicants. The preselected candidate still has to interview and pass. HR is sitting in and they don’t know the fix is in so HR has a vote. I’m a hiring mgr, word of mouth is best way to hire. Applicant gets 10 points added to his cutting score for each recommendation from an employee.

His resume has to pass a computer graded skills/experience/education algorithm so we’re not hiring unqualified people. If you do well in the interview your name absolutely is kept on file as a recruitable applicant.
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So what advice would you offer to the folks here who may be trying to win over the interviewers?
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It may be kept on file, but that doesnt help the here and now... I can tell you if they called me in the future Id gouge the shit out of their budget for salary or flat out refuse. Dont waste my time.
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What is the industry for which you hire for? And do you hire blue or white collar workers?
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Multiple - skills sets for defense, medical, legal, IT/Tech, law enforcement, general business...
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There is no sense of urgency with any of them either- that is why they have open positions in the first place. Retarded Berkman personality profiles and 7 freakin interviews. I end up withdrawing because I can't stand them, no less will I bust my ass to make them rich.
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There is no sense of urgency with any of them either- that is why they have open positions in the first place. Retarded Berkman personality profiles and 7 freakin interviews. I end up withdrawing because I can't stand them, no less will I bust my ass to make them rich.
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Yep I had one that was going into the 6th interview. I was like youre wasting my fucking time!!!! Pick someone. Dont call me if youre not serious...
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09/14/2021 08:27 PM
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I think they have some HR information system were a quota of interviews must be fulfilled, to look like they're constantly recruiting talent.
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Absolutly they do. Driven by all the affirmative action laws and tweaked by big tek to wring out all the white males from the list of potentials. Just not enough tallented black labor! Modern day blackballing works when youve flushed out any real need for competitive workers because you outsourced your manufactueing base to china.

Good times ahead.
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09/14/2021 08:31 PM
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I think they have some HR information system were a quota of interviews must be fulfilled, to look like they're constantly recruiting talent.
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Absolutly they do. Driven by all the affirmative action laws and tweaked by big tek to wring out all the white males from the list of potentials. Just not enough tallented black labor! Modern day blackballing works when youve flushed out any real need for competitive workers because you outsourced your manufactueing base to china.

Good times ahead.
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So on the job posting for personal info, if I say Im afro, Id have a better chance? LOL
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09/14/2021 08:36 PM
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So what advice would you offer to the folks here who may be trying to win over the interviewers?
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It may be kept on file, but that doesnt help the here and now... I can tell you if they called me in the future Id gouge the shit out of their budget for salary or flat out refuse. Dont waste my time.
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What is the industry for which you hire for? And do you hire blue or white collar workers?
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Multiple - skills sets for defense, medical, legal, IT/Tech, law enforcement, general business...
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Wow, that impressive.
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I think the postings are fake. I suspected this last fall. That was when "they" were closing stores early for lack of employees. They keep changing the reason.

First, shorter hours due to covid cleaning or seniors. Then, covid positive cases. Then too many on unemployment. Now, too many unvaxxed. It's all the same and likely just the slow collapse of the economy.
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Re: Job shortage MY ASS - try getting a mid to senior level position
I think the postings are fake. I suspected this last fall. That was when "they" were closing stores early for lack of employees. They keep changing the reason.

First, shorter hours due to covid cleaning or seniors. Then, covid positive cases. Then too many on unemployment. Now, too many unvaxxed. It's all the same and likely just the slow collapse of the economy.
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Oh, thats the other thing. Several of the jobs I put in for want to know if you will get vaxxed... NO... I am NOT!!
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09/14/2021 08:42 PM
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Do you realize that now you are competing against an unlimited greencard pool?
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Greencard pool will not have the skills that I have. Funny though as most want you running out the gates trained, but maybe they have an incentive to train these F'rs over a citizen and govt cheese hand outs to the employer... who knows.
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They care little for skills.

They care a lot about skin color.

Affirmative action, foreign and domestic.
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09/14/2021 08:45 PM
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Re: Job shortage MY ASS - try getting a mid to senior level position
Senior hamburger flipper, senior dishwasher, senior grass cutter (need credentials), senior chimney sweep, thare are senior positions available.

Now if you are looking for a senior "I am in charge and sit on my ass and play golf during work" position, that will take some dick sucking.
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09/14/2021 08:49 PM
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Re: Job shortage MY ASS - try getting a mid to senior level position
F'ing HR reps I think are fishing or these jobs just plain don't exist. Do you know how many interviews Ive been to where they give a mock scenario on how "would you fix this"? After the first couple I realized they had no intent. Now I flat out tell them they need to pay for my consult time. The looks they give, yea, they know what they are doing.

Really have the feeling its coming down to they post BS openings for legal reasons, yet already know WHO they want....

Or perhaps over qualified and don't want to pay, but let ME make that decision!!!
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yeahsure fishing for what?
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09/14/2021 08:58 PM
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Re: Job shortage MY ASS - try getting a mid to senior level position
I think the postings are fake. I suspected this last fall. That was when "they" were closing stores early for lack of employees. They keep changing the reason.

First, shorter hours due to covid cleaning or seniors. Then, covid positive cases. Then too many on unemployment. Now, too many unvaxxed. It's all the same and likely just the slow collapse of the economy.
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Oh, thats the other thing. Several of the jobs I put in for want to know if you will get vaxxed... NO... I am NOT!!
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What percentage of jobs have asked about your vaccine status? Was it more than half? Also, what region of the country do you live?
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09/14/2021 08:59 PM
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They want a bunch of fucking slaves who will take the jab. They can kiss my fucking nuts!
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Re: Job shortage MY ASS - try getting a mid to senior level position
Self employed people just don't give a fuck!
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I never needed another daddy!
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You pull their teeth by thinking outside the box they created for you!
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09/14/2021 09:09 PM
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Re: Job shortage MY ASS - try getting a mid to senior level position
I think the postings are fake. I suspected this last fall. That was when "they" were closing stores early for lack of employees. They keep changing the reason.

First, shorter hours due to covid cleaning or seniors. Then, covid positive cases. Then too many on unemployment. Now, too many unvaxxed. It's all the same and likely just the slow collapse of the economy.
 Quoting: Conservative_B


Oh, thats the other thing. Several of the jobs I put in for want to know if you will get vaxxed... NO... I am NOT!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80872825


When you have time, look into the whole "Meme stock" thing involving Gamestop stock. I have been following it for several months now and it is expected to sky rocket (way over a million) in price due to massive Shorting on the stock which needs to be covered soon. Reddit is a great place to read up about it, but stay away from the WallStreetBets sub, as it has been infiltrated by Hedge Fund shills since February.
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Re: Job shortage MY ASS - try getting a mid to senior level position
I think the postings are fake. I suspected this last fall. That was when "they" were closing stores early for lack of employees. They keep changing the reason.

First, shorter hours due to covid cleaning or seniors. Then, covid positive cases. Then too many on unemployment. Now, too many unvaxxed. It's all the same and likely just the slow collapse of the economy.
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Oh, thats the other thing. Several of the jobs I put in for want to know if you will get vaxxed... NO... I am NOT!!
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What percentage of jobs have asked about your vaccine status? Was it more than half? Also, what region of the country do you live?
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At first zero, starting about a few weeks ago maybe 10%...
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Re: Job shortage MY ASS - try getting a mid to senior level position
F'ing HR reps I think are fishing or these jobs just plain don't exist. Do you know how many interviews Ive been to where they give a mock scenario on how "would you fix this"? After the first couple I realized they had no intent. Now I flat out tell them they need to pay for my consult time. The looks they give, yea, they know what they are doing.

Really have the feeling its coming down to they post BS openings for legal reasons, yet already know WHO they want....

Or perhaps over qualified and don't want to pay, but let ME make that decision!!!
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yeahsure fishing for what?
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Fishing for answers to a corp problem they have from someone on the outside looking in, under the guise of an interview, ie FREE CONSULT...
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Re: Job shortage MY ASS - try getting a mid to senior level position
The worker shortage of exactly that. A shortage of workers, not managers. There is no manager shortage.
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We need moar phone sanitizers...



Like we need moar middle management.
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Do you realize that now you are competing against an unlimited greencard pool?
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Greencard pool will not have the skills that I have. Funny though as most want you running out the gates trained, but maybe they have an incentive to train these F'rs over a citizen and govt cheese hand outs to the employer... who knows.
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I knew this in 1980, when Reagan was elected. I have been telling people that it has to catch up with them. Yes it took a while but today nobody knows how to control the run away
chaos. Everybody think that they are Tarzans. I am a senior
citizen, but I do know how we used to help each other to get
the job done. Yes we were under pressure, but the old timers used to tell me to ignore it and we had to do what we thought were right.
If one person is IN charge, we still can control it if others
follow. Nobody wants to follow.
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I lived overseas for awhile, and a friend of mine who had experience as a “technical writer” kept applying for jobs that he was more than qualified for.

They’d require him to pass a “test” whereby he needed to find and correct errors in a (supposedly hypothetical) instruction manual.

He has good skills, and he kept replying to these with a sincere effort, not seeming to realize what was happening. I saw his responses and they were of good quality.

The long and short of this is that they were essentially getting applicants with native English skills to rewrite their instruction manuals (piece by piece) without compensating them!
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I lived overseas for awhile, and a friend of mine who had experience as a “technical writer” kept applying for jobs that he was more than qualified for.

They’d require him to pass a “test” whereby he needed to find and correct errors in a (supposedly hypothetical) instruction manual.

He has good skills, and he kept replying to these with a sincere effort, not seeming to realize what was happening. I saw his responses and they were of good quality.

The long and short of this is that they were essentially getting applicants with native English skills to rewrite their instruction manuals (piece by piece) without compensating them!
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Yep!!!!
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09/14/2021 09:40 PM
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Do you realize that now you are competing against an unlimited greencard pool?
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It is much Worse than that, at least those folks are somewhat qualified!!! LOOK AT WHAT THE WORTHLESS APEFIRMATIVE ACTION HAS DONE TO THIS COUNTRY!!!! We will never recover!!!!!
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Affirmative Action helped kill this country.
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Do you realize that now you are competing against an unlimited greencard pool?
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It is much Worse than that, at least those folks are somewhat qualified!!! LOOK AT WHAT THE WORTHLESS APEFIRMATIVE ACTION HAS DONE TO THIS COUNTRY!!!! We will never recover!!!!!
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Dont even get me started. Had some dumb bitch who was a PM totally fuck things up. Lost a GREAT employee? Why? because she wouldnt pay the guy 10k more a year out of a 220 dollar an hour govt contract award, where they were billing that per hour for him but paying him 35 an hour. Had the balls to bitch and moan, I was like youre one dumb bitch...
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My husband hasn't been able to find a job since IBM laid him off in Sept 2019. NO ONE IS HIRING or tell him he is overqualified.
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Do you realize that now you are competing against an unlimited greencard pool?
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It is much Worse than that, at least those folks are somewhat qualified!!! LOOK AT WHAT THE WORTHLESS APEFIRMATIVE ACTION HAS DONE TO THIS COUNTRY!!!! We will never recover!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79777995


Dont even get me started. Had some dumb bitch who was a PM totally fuck things up. Lost a GREAT employee? Why? because she wouldnt pay the guy 10k more a year out of a 220 dollar an hour govt contract award, where they were billing that per hour for him but paying him 35 an hour. Had the balls to bitch and moan, I was like youre one dumb bitch...
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It think that there is an intentional push to cause many American companies to fail from within. Some of the decisions I have seen made by upper management in huge companies were just too obvious. And surprisingly, their bonuses grew even larger after the fails. Many people got cut but upper management remained to continue the downward spiral and collect larger bonuses each year.
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Re: Job shortage MY ASS - try getting a mid to senior level position
Maybe you’re applying in the wrong industries? I’ve gotten 3 unsolicited job offers in the last month or so coming from people in my professional network. One had such a hardon they didn’t even veil it as an interview. Straight up offered me a CTO position within 2 minutes of getting on the phone.





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