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Mark of the beast is similar to graffiti. . .it does not prevent nor stop God from saving you.

 
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Mark of the beast is similar to graffiti. . .it does not prevent nor stop God from saving you.
The mark of the beast in the bible describes:

people not being able to buy nor sell without the mark..

It does NOT say those with the mark are lost.


1 Timothy 2
1 I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people— 2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. 3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.
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The mark of the beast in the bible describes:

people not being able to buy nor sell without the mark..

It does NOT say those with the mark are lost.


1 Timothy 2
1 I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people— 2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. 3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.

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Actually it Does....
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And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he also will drink the wine of God's wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.”

To be tormented Forever is the opposite of Salvation.
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Re: Mark of the beast is similar to graffiti. . .it does not prevent nor stop God from saving you.
The mark of the beast in the bible describes:

people not being able to buy nor sell without the mark..

It does NOT say those with the mark are lost.


1 Timothy 2
1 I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people— 2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. 3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.

 Quoting: 1 Timothy 2 80860128

Actually it Does....
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And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he also will drink the wine of God's wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.”

To be tormented Forever is the opposite of Salvation.
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that says: "IF ANYONE WORSHIPS THE BEAST"
it is talking about them...

not some innocent people who do NOT worship the beast and got a mark anyways.
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The mark of the beast in the bible describes:

people not being able to buy nor sell without the mark..

It does NOT say those with the mark are lost.


1 Timothy 2
1 I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people— 2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. 3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.

 Quoting: 1 Timothy 2 80860128

Actually it Does....
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And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he also will drink the wine of God's wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.”

To be tormented Forever is the opposite of Salvation.
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It appears OP didnt finish the book....
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Hey OP, do you listen to John Mcarthur?

He is the only one I know that teaches you can receive the Mark of the Beast and still be saved...


You need to be careful who you listen to...
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The mark of the beast in the bible describes:

people not being able to buy nor sell without the mark..

It does NOT say those with the mark are lost.


1 Timothy 2
1 I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people— 2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. 3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.

 Quoting: 1 Timothy 2 80860128


Rev 14:9  And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
Rev 14:10  The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
Rev 14:11  And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
Christians comfort one another with this - John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
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Re: Mark of the beast is similar to graffiti. . .it does not prevent nor stop God from saving you.
The mark of the beast in the bible describes:

people not being able to buy nor sell without the mark..

It does NOT say those with the mark are lost.


1 Timothy 2
1 I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people— 2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. 3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.

 Quoting: 1 Timothy 2 80860128


Rev 14:9  And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
Rev 14:10  The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
Rev 14:11  And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
Christians comfort one another with this - John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
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I'm something of an authority on the subject of eschatology, having studied it for years, and having written a book about it.

I completely agree with you OP.

The Bible says those who took the Mark of the Beast AND worshiped the Beast were thrown into the Lake of Fire.

That's a very important "AND".
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taking the mark is worship. its idolatry.
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I'm something of an authority on the subject of eschatology, having studied it for years, and having written a book about it.

I completely agree with you OP.

The Bible says those who took the Mark of the Beast AND worshiped the Beast were thrown into the Lake of Fire.

That's a very important "AND".
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'authority'....lol!!! I had a lot of 'authority' in my life growing up being baptised into catholicism, raised in pentacostalism/televagnelism...


all these 'teachers' claim the same authority you do! and all were liars, deceiving and being deceived.


Sorry OP, your not gonna have some shill name Psychedelic Mashed potatoes standing with you at the Great White Throne judgement. You will just have scripture. You are responsible for what is written!





26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.
27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
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I'm something of an authority on the subject of eschatology, having studied it for years, and having written a book about it.

I completely agree with you OP.

The Bible says those who took the Mark of the Beast AND worshiped the Beast were thrown into the Lake of Fire.

That's a very important "AND".
 Quoting: Psychedelic Mashed Potatoes


Good point... every word matters!
Christians comfort one another with this - John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
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The mark of the beast in the bible describes:

people not being able to buy nor sell without the mark..

It does NOT say those with the mark are lost.


1 Timothy 2
1 I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people— 2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. 3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.

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Hellbound and proud, OP!
Get your MARK!
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By getting the mark you are worshipping the beast by complying with the system. You get the mark, then they tell you that you must do this or do that which will all be to support the beast system so yeah you will worship the beast because everything you do will in turn be to support it. Many unknowingly. Don't be trying to confuse others because you want to find a loop hole for yourself. You will answer to God for misleading people. I would be very careful if I were you.

If it was as easy as getting the tattoo, chip, or whatever and just living a normal life without worshipping the beast then the Bible would have stated so. Get the mark but do not worship the beast. By getting the mark you are willingly showing your allegiance to the beast whether you say so or not.

By receiving the mark which symbolizes the name of the beast you are saying he owns you.

When someone puts their name on anything what does it mean? Exactly. They own it. You're willingly giving your soul up by getting the mark.

DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS FOOL, READ THE BIBLE FOR YOURSELVES BECAUSE IN THE END ITS YOUR ETERNAL SOUL ON THE LINE.

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The mark of the beast in the bible describes:

people not being able to buy nor sell without the mark..

It does NOT say those with the mark are lost.


1 Timothy 2
1 I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people— 2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. 3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.

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Are you a demon spreading evil bullshit?

Fuck off back to hell.
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The PAYMENT cards (about 30 billions worldwide soon) have the BANK NUMBER, the first 6 digits of the 16-digit number, times 3: in the embossed number on the front, in the magnetic stripe on the back and in the chip.

So, it's 666, the number of the second beast (the banking industry) which happens to also be those of king Solomon (A man) in 1 Kings 10:14 (666 talents of gold asked every year to the people for his royal needs).

This is crystal clear, actually. But people confuse the mark of the second beast which is FORCED to have (the people can't have the choice to buy and sell without it, what God perfectly knows) with the WORSHIPING (LOVE) of the IMAGE, aka the banknotes taken from ATM, with their right hand card readers (right hand = physical object) and the pin code (forehead = memory), worshiping of the image which is the second mandatory condition (use of the word 'AND' each time) to be doomed.

Instead of being focused on the mark of the second beast, which is secondary since being FORCED, people should be concerned by the LOVE OF MONEY!
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Thread: The TRUE MARK OF THE BEAST
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The mark of the beast in the bible describes:

people not being able to buy nor sell without the mark..

It does NOT say those with the mark are lost.


1 Timothy 2
1 I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people— 2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. 3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.

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OP your just willfully ignorant eh...
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I will help you read the only verses talking about the mark of the beast in the Book of Revelation. Any biased assumption is like adding it to the prophecy, what condemns the readers as per Rev 22:


Below are the verses that DEFINE THE MARK:


Revelation 13:16
It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads,

Revelation 13:17
so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.


IT IS CLEAR THAT PEOPLE CAN NOT CHOOSE TO TAKE THE MARK OR NOT SINCE ALL ARE FORCED!!!!! There are always few exceptions, of course, but having bank accounts now means having a payment card.

------------------------------------------


Below are the verses that CONDEMN PEOPLE:

Revelation 14:9
A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives its mark on their forehead or on their hand,

Revelation 14:11
And the smoke of their torment will rise for ever and ever. There will be no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and its image, or for anyone who receives the mark of its name.

Revelation 16:2
The first angel went and poured out his bowl on the land, and ugly, festering sores broke out on the people who had the mark of the beast and worshiped its image.

Revelation 19:20
But the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who had performed the signs on its behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped its image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur.


You see, THERE ARE TWO CONDITIONS TO BE CONDEMN. HAVING THE MARK OF THE BEAST IS NOT, I repeat NOT, SUFFICIENT TO GO TO HELL. The 'mark of its name' is about working for the financial industry.

-----------------------------------


Below is the verse that SELECT THE JUDGES:

Revelation 20:4
I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.


So, John first sees the thrones, then those seated on it, those who will be beheaded because of their testimony. WHO BEAR A TESTIMONY IN THE WHOLE BOOK OF REVELATION?

THE TWO WITNESSES!


Often people think that all the beheaded Christians belong to that group. NO, NOT AT ALL!

But, be careful. John sees their SOULS, not their bodies...as William and Kate...who previously ALREADY HAD PAYMENTS CARDS BEFORE THE SOULS SWAP. Those souls of the MAN (Aquarius / Eve) and the EAGLE (Sagittarius / Eric) happen to also 'Death' and 'Hades' who judge those not in the Book of Life but in the books of records, the dead and their past lives (Rev 20:13).



There are ONLY 5 verses with the word 'beheaded' in the New Testament (only Testament which counts since it's related to the testimony of Jesus Christ, especially if this word is found ONLY in the NT). Among those 5, 4 are about John the Baptist being beheaded, the 5th being the one above in Rev 20:



Matthew 14:10
and had John beheaded in the prison.

Mark 6:16
But when Herod heard this, he said, “John, whom I beheaded, has been raised from the dead!”

Mark 6:27
So he immediately sent an executioner with orders to bring John’s head. The man went, beheaded John in the prison,

Luke 9:9
But Herod said, “I beheaded John. Who, then, is this I hear such things about?” And he tried to see him.


This means that the usual mistake is made by 99.9999999% of the Christians. NONE OF THE CHRISTIANS, PHYSICALLY BEHEADED OR NOT IN THE PAST, EXCEPT THE TWO WITNESSES (John the Baptist is NOT in the prophecy), IS CONCERNED! NONE! NONE! NONE!

WHY?

Because the Two Witnesses will be 'KINGS' (king George VII and his Queen Consort). AS KING GEORGE VII, the future William will be ONE OF THE 7 HEADS. Given that Harry Satan (once Satan is hurled down to earth) will kill the Two Witnesses...who eventually will live again in Rev 11:11-12 (Rev 20:4 ends with: 'They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years'), then the Two Witnesses will be 'beheaded', aka suppressed from the lineage of kings George together, as the 7th head of the Red dragon.


I know that all of this is new to many people, but forget being beheaded to be selected, to sit on a throne and to be judge others. THERE ARE ONLY TWO WITNESSES WHO JUDGE YOU, IF YOU'RE NOT IN THE NEW JERUSALEM.
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The mark of the beast in the bible describes:

people not being able to buy nor sell without the mark..

It does NOT say those with the mark are lost.


1 Timothy 2
1 I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people— 2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. 3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.

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OP your just willfully ignorant eh...
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No, you're the ignorant here. OP IS FULLY RIGHT!
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I thought they just didn't get to participate in the millennium of peace under Christ, and they were resurrected after the millennium for the great judgement when satan is loosed again.
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The mark of the beast in the bible describes:

people not being able to buy nor sell without the mark..

It does NOT say those with the mark are lost.


1 Timothy 2
1 I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people— 2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. 3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.

 Quoting: 1 Timothy 2 80860128


WRONG

REVELATION 14
9 And the third angel followed them,
saying with a loud voice,
If any man worship the beast and his image,
and receive his mark in his forehead,
or in his hand,

10 The same shall drink of the wine
of the wrath of God, which is poured out
without mixture into the cup
of his indignation; and he shall be tormented
with fire and brimstone in the presence
of the holy angels,
and in the presence of the Lamb:

11 And the smoke of their torment
ascendeth up for ever and ever:
and they have no rest day nor night,
who worship the beast and his image,
and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.


Take the MARK and you are DAMNED.
PERIOD.
NO IFS, ANDS, OR BUTS, about it.
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I will help you read the only verses talking about the mark of the beast in the Book of Revelation. Any biased assumption is like adding it to the prophecy, what condemns the readers as per Rev 22:


Below are the verses that DEFINE THE MARK:


Revelation 13:16
It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads,

Revelation 13:17
so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.


IT IS CLEAR THAT PEOPLE CAN NOT CHOOSE TO TAKE THE MARK OR NOT SINCE ALL ARE FORCED!!!!! There are always few exceptions, of course, but having bank accounts now means having a payment card.

------------------------------------------


Below are the verses that CONDEMN PEOPLE:

Revelation 14:9
A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives its mark on their forehead or on their hand,

Revelation 14:11
And the smoke of their torment will rise for ever and ever. There will be no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and its image, or for anyone who receives the mark of its name.

Revelation 16:2
The first angel went and poured out his bowl on the land, and ugly, festering sores broke out on the people who had the mark of the beast and worshiped its image.

Revelation 19:20
But the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who had performed the signs on its behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped its image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur.


You see, THERE ARE TWO CONDITIONS TO BE CONDEMN. HAVING THE MARK OF THE BEAST IS NOT, I repeat NOT, SUFFICIENT TO GO TO HELL. The 'mark of its name' is about working for the financial industry.

-----------------------------------


Below is the verse that SELECT THE JUDGES:

Revelation 20:4
I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.


So, John first sees the thrones, then those seated on it, those who will be beheaded because of their testimony. WHO BEAR A TESTIMONY IN THE WHOLE BOOK OF REVELATION?

THE TWO WITNESSES!


Often people think that all the beheaded Christians belong to that group. NO, NOT AT ALL!

But, be careful. John sees their SOULS, not their bodies...as William and Kate...who previously ALREADY HAD PAYMENTS CARDS BEFORE THE SOULS SWAP. Those souls of the MAN (Aquarius / Eve) and the EAGLE (Sagittarius / Eric) happen to also 'Death' and 'Hades' who judge those not in the Book of Life but in the books of records, the dead and their past lives (Rev 20:13).



There are ONLY 5 verses with the word 'beheaded' in the New Testament (only Testament which counts since it's related to the testimony of Jesus Christ, especially if this word is found ONLY in the NT). Among those 5, 4 are about John the Baptist being beheaded, the 5th being the one above in Rev 20:



Matthew 14:10
and had John beheaded in the prison.

Mark 6:16
But when Herod heard this, he said, “John, whom I beheaded, has been raised from the dead!”

Mark 6:27
So he immediately sent an executioner with orders to bring John’s head. The man went, beheaded John in the prison,

Luke 9:9
But Herod said, “I beheaded John. Who, then, is this I hear such things about?” And he tried to see him.


This means that the usual mistake is made by 99.9999999% of the Christians. NONE OF THE CHRISTIANS, PHYSICALLY BEHEADED OR NOT IN THE PAST, EXCEPT THE TWO WITNESSES (John the Baptist is NOT in the prophecy), IS CONCERNED! NONE! NONE! NONE!

WHY?

Because the Two Witnesses will be 'KINGS' (king George VII and his Queen Consort). AS KING GEORGE VII, the future William will be ONE OF THE 7 HEADS. Given that Harry Satan (once Satan is hurled down to earth) will kill the Two Witnesses...who eventually will live again in Rev 11:11-12 (Rev 20:4 ends with: 'They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years'), then the Two Witnesses will be 'beheaded', aka suppressed from the lineage of kings George together, as the 7th head of the Red dragon.


I know that all of this is new to many people, but forget being beheaded to be selected, to sit on a throne and to be judge others. THERE ARE ONLY TWO WITNESSES WHO JUDGE YOU, IF YOU'RE NOT IN THE NEW JERUSALEM.
 Quoting: SEVENTH HEAD


That trans is not correct... this is what is says and means...

Revelation 13:16
“And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:”
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And some definitions for context

Cause
CAUSE, noun s as z.

1. A suit or action in court; any legal process which a party institutes to obtain his demand, or by which he seeks his right or his supposed right. This is a legal, scriptural and popular use of the word, coinciding nearly with case from cado, and action from ago, to urge or drive.

The cause of both parties shall come before the judges. Exodus 22:5.

2. That which produces an effect; that which impels into existence, or by its agency or operation produces what did not before exist; that by virtue of which any thing is done; that from which any thing proceeds, and without which it would not exist.

CAUSE is a substance exerting its power into act, to make a thing begin to be.

3. The reason or motive that urges, moves, or impels the mind to act or decide.

For this cause have I raised up Pharaoh. Exodus 9:16.

And David said, is there not a cause? 1 Samuel 17:29.

4. Sake; account.

I did it not for his cause that had done the wrong. 2 Corinthians 6:1. [See Sake.]

5. That which a party or nation pursues; or rather pursuit, prosecution of an object. We say, Bible Societies are engaged in a noble cause [See the first definition.] Hence the word cause is used to denote that which a person or thing favors; that to which the efforts of an intelligent being are directed; as, to promote religion is to advance the cause of God. So we say, the cause of truth or of justice. In all its applications, cause retains something of its original meaning, struggle, impelling force, contest, effort to obtain or to effect something.

6. Without cause without good reason; without a reason or motive to justify the act.

They hate me without cause Psalms 35:19. Psalms 69:4.

CAUSE, verb transitive

1. To produce; to bring into existence.

They caused great joy to all the brethren. Acts 15:3.

2. To effect by agency, power or influence.

I will cause it to rain on the earth forty days. Genesis 7:4.

I will cause him to fall by the sword. 2 Kings 19:7.

CAUSE, verb intransitive To assign insufficient cause
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GLP is really full of BRAINLESS people...pfffff
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The PAYMENT cards (about 30 billions worldwide soon) have the BANK NUMBER, the first 6 digits of the 16-digit number, times 3: in the embossed number on the front, in the magnetic stripe on the back and in the chip.

So, it's 666, the number of the second beast (the banking industry) which happens to also be those of king Solomon (A man) in 1 Kings 10:14 (666 talents of gold asked every year to the people for his royal needs).

This is crystal clear, actually. But people confuse the mark of the second beast which is FORCED to have (the people can't have the choice to buy and sell without it, what God perfectly knows) with the WORSHIPING (LOVE) of the IMAGE, aka the banknotes taken from ATM, with their right hand card readers (right hand = physical object) and the pin code (forehead = memory), worshiping of the image which is the second mandatory condition (use of the word 'AND' each time) to be doomed.

Instead of being focused on the mark of the second beast, which is secondary since being FORCED, people should be concerned by the LOVE OF MONEY!
 Quoting: SEVENTH HEAD


Stop it. Seriously. This is so fucking retarded.
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Op needs to read the word in it’s entirety


Cherry picking is the devil
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I think that many of you are overlooking this verse.

Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will
I make a pillar in the temple of my God,
and he shall go no more out:

and I will write upon him the name of my God,

and the name of the city of my God,

which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of
heaven from my God:

and I will write upon him my new name


In other words, folks will have either the Father's anme...

...or...

...the name of the Beast.

God have mercy on those with the name of the Beast - the "Mark".

I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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The word "mark" occurs 8 times in 8 verses in Revelation in the KJV.

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Revelation 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

Revelation 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Revelation 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

Revelation 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Revelation 15:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.

Revelation 16:2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.

Revelation 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
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I'm something of an authority on the subject of eschatology, having studied it for years, and having written a book about it.

I completely agree with you OP.

The Bible says those who took the Mark of the Beast AND worshiped the Beast were thrown into the Lake of Fire.

That's a very important "AND".
 Quoting: Psychedelic Mashed Potatoes


... and received his mark.
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That trans is not correct... this is what is says and means...

Revelation 13:16
“And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:”
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79584671

Well, in French Rev 13:16-17 says:


16 Et elle fit que tous, petits et grands, riches et pauvres, libres et esclaves, reçussent une marque sur leur main droite ou sur leur front, et que personne ne pût acheter ni vendre, sans avoir la marque, le nom de la bête ou le nombre de son nom.



This clearly say that the people are FORCED. Having the mark of the beast is NOT A CHOICE! And 'SUR' means 'ON', like in the NIV!

So, open your mind to what is obvious for the smartest ones.
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