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BoatyMcBoatface

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Exploring the viability of a potential business
I'm looking into providing a service that I am developing.

I just did a couple of tests, and based on those tests, it looks like it's going to cost me $360/day to fully do what I want. That's a lot of money.

I can reduce those costs probably by 20% with some tweaking to how I'm developing it, but it's still a lot of money for a startup.

I am thinking of building a landing page with a signup list. That would give me some idea of how many are interested in using the service and help me determine if that service would be financially viable.

I would need a lot of signups to break even/be profitable, so there's a marketing expense involved in getting those signups. I could probably work on that marketing myself and reduce that expense.

The full-blown service doesn't have to happen immediately. I could offer a smaller subset of the service initially and make the costs even lower at first. But I really want to offer the opportunity for the full-blown service right out of the gate.

I have never run a business before. But I have thought about doing so quite a bit.

Any GLPers have any feedback? I know this post is vague about details of what the business is/will be (that's intentional).

Any/all feedback will be very much appreciated, and I think other GLPers can learn from this thread too.

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BoatyMcBoatface  (OP)

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Shamelessly self pinning for feedback
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09/16/2021 08:57 PM
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Re: Exploring the viability of a potential business
Offer your service on ebay. Raise some money first.
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09/16/2021 08:59 PM
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Re: Exploring the viability of a potential business
Impossible to give you advice without know what the service that you are going to provide is.
BoatyMcBoatface  (OP)

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Re: Exploring the viability of a potential business
Offer your service on ebay. Raise some money first.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79387251


It won't work like that for something like this. It is a service, not a tangible product.

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BoatyMcBoatface  (OP)

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Re: Exploring the viability of a potential business
Impossible to give you advice without know what the service that you are going to provide is.
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I don't think that's a true statement. I supplied costs, and a basic plan idea.
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If it's costing you $360.00 a day the your losing money not a good start the Idea of running a business is to make money.
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I feel like I read this floated on another site.
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If it's costing you $360.00 a day the your losing money not a good start the Idea of running a business is to make money.
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For what I want to ultimately offer it will cost that. I don't have to start that way.
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If you quit you fail if you don’t quit you succeed.
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I am an entrepreneur and quite a successful one. I don’t actually know what you’re asking with this post though. If you’re asking for a risk assessment every business has inherent risk. The only controlable you have is your own work ethic. Don’t quit and you will succeed as long as your product is good. What kind of profit margin‘s are you hoping to make off each customer?
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Start small, if it’s good it will grow. Can’t win if you don’t play.
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Re: Exploring the viability of a potential business
I'm looking into providing a service that I am developing.

I just did a couple of tests, and based on those tests, it looks like it's going to cost me $360/day to fully do what I want. That's a lot of money.

I can reduce those costs probably by 20% with some tweaking to how I'm developing it, but it's still a lot of money for a startup.

I am thinking of building a landing page with a signup list. That would give me some idea of how many are interested in using the service and help me determine if that service would be financially viable.

I would need a lot of signups to break even/be profitable, so there's a marketing expense involved in getting those signups. I could probably work on that marketing myself and reduce that expense.

The full-blown service doesn't have to happen immediately. I could offer a smaller subset of the service initially and make the costs even lower at first. But I really want to offer the opportunity for the full-blown service right out of the gate.

I have never run a business before. But I have thought about doing so quite a bit.

Any GLPers have any feedback? I know this post is vague about details of what the business is/will be (that's intentional).

Any/all feedback will be very much appreciated, and I think other GLPers can learn from this thread too.
 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface



Sorry nobody can tell you if creating a landing page is worth doing without knowing what type of business/product you are selling. Or if paying out of pocket $300+ a day will potentially bring a return on your output without knowing what you are wanting to try to do.

I will tell you that there is a big difference between having someone signup to a list for free on a landing page and actually paying you money. You can get 1000 people to sign up and convert none of them to a paying customer.

If you are worried about someone on a forum stealing your awesome idea that nobody else has ever thought of or already done... well you probably aren't meant to start a business in the first place because it just shows that you don't have the confidence in yourself to be the best at whatever it is you plan on doing.

Good luck!
BoatyMcBoatface  (OP)

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09/16/2021 09:18 PM

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Re: Exploring the viability of a potential business
I am an entrepreneur and quite a successful one. I don’t actually know what you’re asking with this post though. If you’re asking for a risk assessment every business has inherent risk. The only controlable you have is your own work ethic. Don’t quit and you will succeed as long as your product is good. What kind of profit margin‘s are you hoping to make off each customer?
 Quoting: Full Blown American


I guess I don't know the answer to that yet. I want to offer this service, perhaps on a tier basis. Free tier gets x widgets, some plan tier gets x more widgets, full blown tier gets everything. It's a real-time service.
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Re: Exploring the viability of a potential business
For me, marketing is the most difficult part. Navigating online is worth paying for professional help. Do you have a good mailing list? I know, everyone says that isn't the way to go however after a few mailings people do start to call. It is slow but the cost is minimal if you do post cards and there are plenty of shops who will help design, print and mail so it's like having staff.

Agree with the above poster who said don't quit. The mental gymnastics... ugh. Not knowing more details, I say to get to work on marketing and plan on working through discouragement. Start where you can afford but if you believe in it START. Don't get tied up in planning it all out in your head until it's perfect.

Set up a business bank account, get your business registered and get going.
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09/16/2021 09:28 PM

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This thread would be way more viable if you explained the business.
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09/16/2021 09:32 PM
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Re: Exploring the viability of a potential business
Impossible to give you advice without know what the service that you are going to provide is.
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I don't think that's a true statement. I supplied costs, and a basic plan idea.
 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface


We’d have to know the service to place a value on it and give you any sort of feedback. For all we know you want to start a cat walking business.
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Re: Exploring the viability of a potential business
This thread would be way more viable if you explained the business.
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I can tell you a little bit about it. I paid $50/per month for what should have been real-time streaming data. The data sucked and was slow as fuck. So, I decided I would build something better that could compete with that company. I have that working at a basic level, and if I can charge $50/month it will be profitable provided I have enough users.
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Until you bring down the customer acquisition cost... it won't be viable. Spend a great amount of time figuring that out otherwise you'll never make it out of the gate.
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This thread would be way more viable if you explained the business.
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I can tell you a little bit about it. I paid $50/per month for what should have been real-time streaming data. The data sucked and was slow as fuck. So, I decided I would build something better that could compete with that company. I have that working at a basic level, and if I can charge $50/month it will be profitable provided I have enough users.
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You got a marketing budget?
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Re: Exploring the viability of a potential business
I'm looking into providing a service that I am developing.

I just did a couple of tests, and based on those tests, it looks like it's going to cost me $360/day to fully do what I want. That's a lot of money.

I can reduce those costs probably by 20% with some tweaking to how I'm developing it, but it's still a lot of money for a startup.

I am thinking of building a landing page with a signup list. That would give me some idea of how many are interested in using the service and help me determine if that service would be financially viable.

I would need a lot of signups to break even/be profitable, so there's a marketing expense involved in getting those signups. I could probably work on that marketing myself and reduce that expense.

The full-blown service doesn't have to happen immediately. I could offer a smaller subset of the service initially and make the costs even lower at first. But I really want to offer the opportunity for the full-blown service right out of the gate.

I have never run a business before. But I have thought about doing so quite a bit.

Any GLPers have any feedback? I know this post is vague about details of what the business is/will be (that's intentional).

Any/all feedback will be very much appreciated, and I think other GLPers can learn from this thread too.
 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface


I wouldn't go starting anything too outrageous. This 7 layer bean dip world is going away.
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Re: Exploring the viability of a potential business
The bigger question is this - at a burn rate of $10k per month, how many months can you operate until you start turning a profit?
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Re: Exploring the viability of a potential business
I'm looking into providing a service that I am developing.

I just did a couple of tests, and based on those tests, it looks like it's going to cost me $360/day to fully do what I want. That's a lot of money.

I can reduce those costs probably by 20% with some tweaking to how I'm developing it, but it's still a lot of money for a startup.

I am thinking of building a landing page with a signup list. That would give me some idea of how many are interested in using the service and help me determine if that service would be financially viable.

I would need a lot of signups to break even/be profitable, so there's a marketing expense involved in getting those signups. I could probably work on that marketing myself and reduce that expense.

The full-blown service doesn't have to happen immediately. I could offer a smaller subset of the service initially and make the costs even lower at first. But I really want to offer the opportunity for the full-blown service right out of the gate.

I have never run a business before. But I have thought about doing so quite a bit.

Any GLPers have any feedback? I know this post is vague about details of what the business is/will be (that's intentional).

Any/all feedback will be very much appreciated, and I think other GLPers can learn from this thread too.
 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface


Take the time to develop your idea in a format that can be presented on one of the many crowd funding sites and look for interest and funding that way.
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I'm looking into providing a service that I am developing.

I just did a couple of tests, and based on those tests, it looks like it's going to cost me $360/day to fully do what I want. That's a lot of money.

I can reduce those costs probably by 20% with some tweaking to how I'm developing it, but it's still a lot of money for a startup.

I am thinking of building a landing page with a signup list. That would give me some idea of how many are interested in using the service and help me determine if that service would be financially viable.

I would need a lot of signups to break even/be profitable, so there's a marketing expense involved in getting those signups. I could probably work on that marketing myself and reduce that expense.

The full-blown service doesn't have to happen immediately. I could offer a smaller subset of the service initially and make the costs even lower at first. But I really want to offer the opportunity for the full-blown service right out of the gate.

I have never run a business before. But I have thought about doing so quite a bit.

Any GLPers have any feedback? I know this post is vague about details of what the business is/will be (that's intentional).

Any/all feedback will be very much appreciated, and I think other GLPers can learn from this thread too.
 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface


Take the time to develop your idea in a format that can be presented on one of the many crowd funding sites and look for interest and funding that way.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76946058



try not to take on this kind of debt if you don't have to, you'll go through 2-3 rounds of funding before you know it.
BoatyMcBoatface  (OP)

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Re: Exploring the viability of a potential business
This thread would be way more viable if you explained the business.
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I can tell you a little bit about it. I paid $50/per month for what should have been real-time streaming data. The data sucked and was slow as fuck. So, I decided I would build something better that could compete with that company. I have that working at a basic level, and if I can charge $50/month it will be profitable provided I have enough users.
 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface


You got a marketing budget?
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Not really.. I'm just a dude trying to break out of the matrix.
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BoatyMcBoatface  (OP)

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For the red karma guy who says that "I'm purposefully hiding what my business is".. No shit Sherlock! If you have a good idea, would you share it with everyone so they can steal it and beat you to the punch before you?
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Re: Exploring the viability of a potential business
This thread would be way more viable if you explained the business.
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I can tell you a little bit about it. I paid $50/per month for what should have been real-time streaming data. The data sucked and was slow as fuck. So, I decided I would build something better that could compete with that company. I have that working at a basic level, and if I can charge $50/month it will be profitable provided I have enough users.
 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface



what's the demand for this data stream? how many competitors? what do they charge?
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The fact you are seeking encouragement says a lot.

Probably better for you to find a currently successful business that your service would compliment.
Convince that owner to bring you in.

You'd have most all the benefits of being your own boss, and less of the headaches.
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Have you tested in an overload scenario on your product??

Can you do that to determine your maximum client outreach?

Are there isolated pillars of potential clients that you could offer your service as a test site for a month before a contract?
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Boaty, is there a competitor doing what you have in mind already?
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