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September 20, 2021 BLACK MONDAY and The Next Lehman Brothers

 
Macho Nacho

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Nah, they'll just paper over everything. It won't collapse until they want it to, and do it deliberately.
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I like that opinion, sounds on par
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China needs to be more transparent and honest like the USA
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butthurt
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09/19/2021 03:44 AM

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No such thing as bankruptcy in a communist country. They pick the winners and losers. This one is big enough to just bail out. And with fiat money the bail outs could be infinite.
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I can’t tell if you’re serious
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That's the thing. No more bail outs. It's pay up time or war, thus US, Aussie, UK nuke submarine deal that France was left out of. Because France is selling to Africa/Asia.

No more fiat money, Gold Standard will end all that nonsense that got us in the situation we are in for the past 50 years. Borrowing, and borrowing, and consuming without replenishing assets, is not sustainable.

8 billion people in the world, 6 billion of those in Asia. Rats. Famine will take out many of those.
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No such thing as bankruptcy in a communist country. They pick the winners and losers. This one is big enough to just bail out. And with fiat money the bail outs could be infinite.
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I can’t tell if you’re serious
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79539839


That's the thing. No more bail outs. It's pay up time or war, thus US, Aussie, UK nuke submarine deal that France was left out of. Because France is selling to Africa/Asia.

No more fiat money, Gold Standard will end all that nonsense that got us in the situation we are in for the past 50 years. Borrowing, and borrowing, and consuming without replenishing assets, is not sustainable.

8 billion people in the world, 6 billion of those in Asia. Rats. Famine will take out many of those.
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The goal was and may still be to use up resources from other places first.
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09/19/2021 03:51 AM
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Re: September 20, 2021 BLACK MONDAY and The Next Lehman Brothers
Lehman Brothers was just kindergarten compared to Evergrande Group.... Evergrande Group is the MOTHER of all Lehman Brothers. it will make Lehman Brothers look like a pathetic insect..


you have been warned....

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Laughable its been failing for months
And is well known
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09/19/2021 03:52 AM
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Re: September 20, 2021 BLACK MONDAY and The Next Lehman Brothers
Lehman Brothers was just kindergarten compared to Evergrande Group.... Evergrande Group is the MOTHER of all Lehman Brothers. it will make Lehman Brothers look like a pathetic insect..


you have been warned....

[imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)]



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As usual godlike retail investors are last to hear


Chinese stocks have been crashing for many months
Anonymous Coward
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09/19/2021 03:53 AM
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Re: September 20, 2021 BLACK MONDAY and The Next Lehman Brothers
For all those who thought China had some kind of grand plan with building all those ghost cities.

Nope.

They just printed money and handed it out to real estate developers that built something. Anything. Anywhere.

And so they built.

"If you build it, people will come".

They didn't.

Shiny new empty cities rotted away for lack of maintenance. And now we see the inevitable end result.
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09/19/2021 03:55 AM
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Re: September 20, 2021 BLACK MONDAY and The Next Lehman Brothers
Bailout followed by slowish collapse for China, just like the US.
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09/19/2021 03:57 AM

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No such thing as bankruptcy in a communist country. They pick the winners and losers. This one is big enough to just bail out. And with fiat money the bail outs could be infinite.
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I can’t tell if you’re serious
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79539839


That's the thing. No more bail outs. It's pay up time or war, thus US, Aussie, UK nuke submarine deal that France was left out of. Because France is selling to Africa/Asia.

No more fiat money, Gold Standard will end all that nonsense that got us in the situation we are in for the past 50 years. Borrowing, and borrowing, and consuming without replenishing assets, is not sustainable.

8 billion people in the world, 6 billion of those in Asia. Rats. Famine will take out many of those.
 Quoting: Agent 99


The goal was and may still be to use up resources from other places first.
 Quoting: Macho Nacho


Last time I was in Italy the only resources left was marble. And that was limited. Even hunting was limited to sparrows, no actual game. Tourism has died, especially with Covid.

8 billion humans have consumed most of the resources and those cannot be replaces. Thus the chip shortages. All humans need 1 acre each to live a healthy life. In many places 1000 are crammed into 2000 square feet of vertical living space with no sun or air.

We have used up all those resources. The only thing left is gold and silver, and only the wealthy have those.
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09/19/2021 03:59 AM
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No such thing as bankruptcy in a communist country. They pick the winners and losers. This one is big enough to just bail out. And with fiat money the bail outs could be infinite.
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LOL

So the collapse of the USSR did not happen? Moran.
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Re: September 20, 2021 BLACK MONDAY and The Next Lehman Brothers
Bailout followed by slowish collapse for China, just like the US.
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Enron played the last bailout card.

US is not even bailing out banks at this point.
Wells Fargo is closing branches because people are pulling out money, and the bank doesn't have assets to cover loans.
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09/19/2021 04:08 AM
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Re: September 20, 2021 BLACK MONDAY and The Next Lehman Brothers
Lehman Brothers was just kindergarten compared to Evergrande Group.... Evergrande Group is the MOTHER of all Lehman Brothers. it will make Lehman Brothers look like a pathetic insect..


you have been warned....

https://imgur.com/V58NYio




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I want to cheer this, however when brutal dictatorships begin imploding, they always blame their opponents, in China's case, that would be US.
Be strong, be of good courage, God bless America & long live the republic. .
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09/19/2021 04:24 AM
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Re: September 20, 2021 BLACK MONDAY and The Next Lehman Brothers
All these last years they pushed BLACK FRIDAY for nothing?
I dont think so.
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09/19/2021 04:40 AM
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This seems pretty ominous however is this for real as there's not much info on it and I'd like to hear an experts opinion.
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09/19/2021 04:59 AM

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"Macro strategists at Swiss bank UBS, led by Kamil Amin, now view a significant credit default as unavoidable. In a report Thursday, they said the extent to which other markets see a spillover is contingent on whether Evergrande is restructured or fully liquidated. Contrary to what the Global Times editor said Friday, the UBS analysts remain confident that the former outcome is much more likely than the latter."

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09/19/2021 05:02 AM
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Re: September 20, 2021 BLACK MONDAY and The Next Lehman Brothers
When an entire system is a Ponzi pyramid scheme there is always a break point ceiling when saturation is reached.
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09/19/2021 05:15 AM
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A nation’s bankruptcy often means war doesn’t it?
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Correct.
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I can’t tell if you’re serious
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That's the thing. No more bail outs. It's pay up time or war, thus US, Aussie, UK nuke submarine deal that France was left out of. Because France is selling to Africa/Asia.

No more fiat money, Gold Standard will end all that nonsense that got us in the situation we are in for the past 50 years. Borrowing, and borrowing, and consuming without replenishing assets, is not sustainable.

8 billion people in the world, 6 billion of those in Asia. Rats. Famine will take out many of those.
 Quoting: Agent 99


The goal was and may still be to use up resources from other places first.
 Quoting: Macho Nacho


Last time I was in Italy the only resources left was marble. And that was limited. Even hunting was limited to sparrows, no actual game. Tourism has died, especially with Covid.

8 billion humans have consumed most of the resources and those cannot be replaces. Thus the chip shortages. All humans need 1 acre each to live a healthy life. In many places 1000 are crammed into 2000 square feet of vertical living space with no sun or air.

We have used up all those resources. The only thing left is gold and silver, and only the wealthy have those.
 Quoting: Agent 99


You could fit the entire population of earth in Los Angeles's but we are Overpopulated ! Give me a Break
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Re: September 20, 2021 BLACK MONDAY and The Next Lehman Brothers
Lehman Brothers was just kindergarten compared to Evergrande Group.... Evergrande Group is the MOTHER of all Lehman Brothers. it will make Lehman Brothers look like a pathetic insect..


you have been warned....

https://imgur.com/V58NYio




 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79156899


This needs a permapin
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09/19/2021 06:10 AM
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Re: September 20, 2021 BLACK MONDAY and The Next Lehman Brothers
Nothing can shake the stock market anymore.
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09/19/2021 06:35 AM

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Re: September 20, 2021 BLACK MONDAY and The Next Lehman Brothers
Nothing the introduction of the gold backed digital Yuan can't solve.

Winners: Silvertards & CryptoHodlers.

Losers: Middle Class pension fund/ 401k holders & retirees.
Just Passing Through.....
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09/19/2021 06:41 AM

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Re: September 20, 2021 BLACK MONDAY and The Next Lehman Brothers
Yellow Monday

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Nothing the introduction of the gold backed digital Yuan can't solve.

Winners: Silvertards & CryptoHodlers.

Losers: Middle Class pension fund/ 401k holders & retirees.
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I knew hodl'in my Monero and Pirate Chain was gunna pay off.

I bought the dip when monero was at 179 and pirate chain at a dollah.


I'm not too worried about gold and silver shooting up though. I bought all my PM's as a store of wealth not to make money.

But hey, if silver wants to shoot up, let it. I got damn near 2500oz of it.
"She isn't real.....I can't make her real"

"Somewhere between the sacred silence and sleep...Disorder, Disorder, Disorder"

"The World is a business Mr Beale..."

"You depend on our protection yet you feed us lies from the tablecloth......"

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The black swan warned about this event.
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Malleus

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09/19/2021 07:22 AM
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Nah, they'll just paper over everything. It won't collapse until they want it to, and do it deliberately.
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hesright

But ... maybe they want it to. This would be a big step toward Klaus's Great Reset.
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09/19/2021 07:30 AM
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Bump

This sounds berry sirius
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War drums next... CCP gonna need Taiwan to expand so be on the lookout
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Yes, war is next. Red horse.
This story is confirming a suspicion I have about who is really manipulating and using China for the fall guy.
It's all about who is going to control the coming AI internet of things, and there's a certain country that has no intention to share that power.
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09/19/2021 07:34 AM
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CCP has now deployed police and military to safeguard all of Evergrande's offices nationwide, and will arrest any protesters. They have also banned margin calls on Evergrande by all of their creditors.

Now the CCP will split up all of Evergrande's assets in order to force all the billionaires in the country to purchase them, basically asking for a bail-in. Months ago they've already banned real estate prices from falling, and also restricting people from what real estate they can purchase.

The CCP has printed a ton of money to infuse into the markets already. But the counterparty risks are so high I don't think they can stop the collapse.

All the western popcorn eaters and Chinese peanuts eaters can all just sit back and watch this slow motion train wreck starting to speed up.
Apocalypse now

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Re: September 20, 2021 BLACK MONDAY and The Next Lehman Brothers
Lehman brothers and banks failures was all about over valuations of real estate
Evergrande is about over building. empty buildings in a recession no growth china's economy is a problem going forward
Yes war is on the horizon and a global financial reset...
USA debt is a problem going forward
Combine death from covid and vaccine reduces debt
Immigration = new growth
Trust the plan..
Apocalypse now
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Re: September 20, 2021 BLACK MONDAY and The Next Lehman Brothers
Why monday???


hf
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A nation’s bankruptcy often means war doesn’t it?
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shelly Lets just say they are kissing cousins.
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Re: September 20, 2021 BLACK MONDAY and The Next Lehman Brothers
300 billion is nothing. China can print that up easy. I don't know why someone here made a big deal over than number. 300 billion printed, is only a fraction of what they're already printing up annually, like 3 trillion.
Yes it's bad, but not Lehman bad.

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