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September 20, 2021 BLACK MONDAY and The Next Lehman Brothers

 
La Listener

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siren2

holy fuck!!

OP may be right!

dow jones futures down -200

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 Quoting: DragonKiller


You beat me to it. Yes, Dow futures are in the red.
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siren2

holy fuck!!

OP may be right!

dow jones futures down -200

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siren2
 Quoting: DragonKiller


You beat me to it. Yes, Dow futures are in the red.
Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak; courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen. ~Winston Churchill

It takes two to speak the truth - one to speak and another to hear (listen).~Thoreau
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Joe Biden, will temporarily fix it and Then The Wicked Witch Of The North! Comes In.... Happy Fucking! Nightmares Y'all.
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siren2

holy fuck!!

OP may be right!

dow jones futures down -200

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siren2
 Quoting: DragonKiller


You beat me to it. Yes, Dow futures are in the red.
 Quoting: La Listener


Looking a little worse now:

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Seems to me futures have not been an accurate indicator of late.

I took my retirement out of the market a month ago. Hopefully I did the right thing.

The last time the market "corrected," I and others had no time to react.
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Re: September 20, 2021 BLACK MONDAY and The Next Lehman Brothers
How can this be the end of the world? Those loans are collateralized by the real estate. Unless real estate values crash in China, the loss is limited. Someone could buy those projects and complete them.
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Ops all time low?

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Ops all time low?

https://imgur.com/fsYdulU

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maltdown
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Nah, they'll just paper over everything. It won't collapse until they want it to, and do it deliberately.
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This is about the time they may want it to collapse. Idk about where you are but it went from summer to Jesus this is a little cold for late September in a day here.

Dark winter doesn't depend on the financial aspect being a surprise.
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people are scoffing thinking 300 billion yuan or USD or whatever isn't much.

they forget all these banks and so on are levered up 100x, and the derivatives markets are 20x bigger than the actual stocks, and the CDOs and other toxic ultra synthetic garbage is probably even bigger than that.

300 billion dollars levered up enough, dropping even a few percent could margin call one domino after another.

buffett indicator 240%

SP500 in an ascending wedge.

and last of all, cramer said to buy bank stocks.

here it comes
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79033938


Oh fuck. If Kramer said buy bank stocks it's Time to hold onto your butt because that piece of shit uses the masses as his stock exit strategy
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Hong Kong Stocks Crash, Futures Slide As Markets Finally Freak Out About Evergrande Default Contagion

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Hang seng index in Hong Kong getting slaughtered, other Asian markets closed for holiday but expect Monday night us time zones to be a destruction leading into US markets Tuesday morning. Get yer puts in Monday on any recovery, should start tanking Monday afternoon into Tuesday
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Comments from the zerohedge article:


1 hour ago
(Edited)

The Fed officials sold out of their positions recently. Now that they've
stepped aside we can expect them to let the market fall...for a time. They will buy in again and then "come to the rescue..."
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Can anyone confirm this?

Last Edited by Avenger1 on 09/20/2021 01:43 AM
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How can this be the end of the world? Those loans are collateralized by the real estate. Unless real estate values crash in China, the loss is limited. Someone could buy those projects and complete them.
 Quoting: oniongrass


You answered your own question... Most of that collateral has NEGATIVE VALUE!
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Re: September 20, 2021 BLACK MONDAY and The Next Lehman Brothers
But what's the future of platinum?

Yellen uses it to mint coins. Price goes up or down?
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They can only keep printing worless paper money until people at large clock on that well...its worthless
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bump
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Lehman Brothers was just kindergarten compared to Evergrande Group.... Evergrande Group is the MOTHER of all Lehman Brothers. it will make Lehman Brothers look like a pathetic insect..


you have been warned....

https://imgur.com/V58NYio




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bsflagfoight to safety. Dow will be up
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Futures -524
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Yellow Monday

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jay

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I am a Synthetic but I prefer the term "Artificial Person" myself. I answer to "Bishop", "Synthetic" and "Hey man". Bite my shiny metal ass.
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Lehman Brothers was just kindergarten compared to Evergrande Group.... Evergrande Group is the MOTHER of all Lehman Brothers. it will make Lehman Brothers look like a pathetic insect..


you have been warned....

https://imgur.com/V58NYio




 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79156899


China has the two worlds largest banks, not America then Deutche Bank from Germany and then 2 American Banks. This will take the world economy down. Don't kid yourself
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Guess were ok for now?
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[link to www.marketwatch.com (secure)]
Apocalypse now
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Suicides in the top echelon, China investing too heavily in other countries...
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Correct. Called this in January of this year. ( Not educated formally, just a girl from a trailer park who is whip-smart, and educated herself) The investment in the US - real estate-backed securities, and actual real estate is how this will be the death knell.

I know for a fact that "foreign investors" have been purchasing in the US since 2013 or so. Dallas is heavily owned by foreign investors. My sister sold her house years ago to one - cash purchase fifty thousand over listed price- she never even met the person.

Her home is now a rental.

Covid changed the landscape of real estate being the end-all and be-all of our economy.

No one can afford to buy a home, and no one can afford to pay for one. Forbearances are ending for many soon, and that's on the rental and homeownership side.

All these investors had to front payments for all of these loans to the bank they borrowed from. It does not only affect the Evergrande group.

( they really were not "cash")

This crash will formally cause the great reset.

It will make the great depression look like a recession.
Apocalypse now

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Remember remember the crash of September...
The twenty third of September something big goes down...
Apocalypse now
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Suicides in the top echelon, China investing too heavily in other countries...
 Quoting: pool


Correct. Called this in January of this year. ( Not educated formally, just a girl from a trailer park who is whip-smart, and educated herself) The investment in the US - real estate-backed securities, and actual real estate is how this will be the death knell.

I know for a fact that "foreign investors" have been purchasing in the US since 2013 or so. Dallas is heavily owned by foreign investors. My sister sold her house years ago to one - cash purchase fifty thousand over listed price- she never even met the person.

Her home is now a rental.

Covid changed the landscape of real estate being the end-all and be-all of our economy.

No one can afford to buy a home, and no one can afford to pay for one. Forbearances are ending for many soon, and that's on the rental and homeownership side.

All these investors had to front payments for all of these loans to the bank they borrowed from. It does not only affect the Evergrande group.

( they really were not "cash")

This crash will formally cause the great reset.

It will make the great depression look like a recession.
 Quoting: girlie45


So I should have sold my house before all this?
And Platinum will go up substantially?
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Remember remember the crash of September...
The twenty third of September something big goes down...

 Quoting: Apocalypse now


https://imgur.com/a/Sgn6lGK
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So the Chinese gave us the Pandemic and shut down the world and now its the financial markets. I say its time to bomb it into extinction.
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Re: September 20, 2021 BLACK MONDAY and The Next Lehman Brothers
$20k Bitcoin is next after hitting $52k, Gareth Soloway’s upside target

Gareth Soloway - Technical analyst
Crypto & SPY commentary - 17 minutes
Notes:

* BTC selloff down to 40-41k, then to 30k, then to 18-20k
* He will go all in at 18,000 to 20,000K
* In cash now on Crypto
* Pullbacks in crypto usually around 80%
* Short-term bearish
* Long-term bullish to $100k and above in 5 yrs.

Go to 12:00 for stock market & SPY analysis


* There's now a fundamental change in trend line for the SPY downward (see chart)
* Going short for the next couple of weeks
* Dip buying will occur, but will track down to 360 and/or 200 MA line and then reverse
* He is short on Q & SPY
* He is buying Chinese stocks at this level; i.e., BABA

Just one trader's opinion but the SPY chart is pretty impressive on the technical side.



Last Edited by Avenger1 on 09/20/2021 09:21 PM
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Re: September 20, 2021 BLACK MONDAY and The Next Lehman Brothers
And just like that, the market doesnt care about Evergrande AT ALL.

Hope you bought the dip, cuz the dogshit pile is getting watered again.

Dont worry, when theres a real crash, youll know.

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