September 20, 2021 BLACK MONDAY and The Next Lehman Brothers | |
La Listener
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Avenger1
User ID: 79174553 United States 09/19/2021 11:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looking a little worse now: [link to www.cnn.com (secure)] Seems to me futures have not been an accurate indicator of late. I took my retirement out of the market a month ago. Hopefully I did the right thing. The last time the market "corrected," I and others had no time to react. "Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes" "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear" |
oniongrass
User ID: 80835184 United States 09/19/2021 11:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How can this be the end of the world? Those loans are collateralized by the real estate. Unless real estate values crash in China, the loss is limited. Someone could buy those projects and complete them. . DON'T VAX, PROPHYLAX! ____________ There is no anger in Me: If one offers Me thorns and thistles, I will march to battle against him, And set all of them on fire. But if he holds fast to My refuge, He makes Me his friend; He makes Me his friend. (Isaiah 27:4-5) |
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G3
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roguetechie81
User ID: 79785318 United States 09/20/2021 01:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nah, they'll just paper over everything. It won't collapse until they want it to, and do it deliberately. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80763407 This is about the time they may want it to collapse. Idk about where you are but it went from summer to Jesus this is a little cold for late September in a day here. Dark winter doesn't depend on the financial aspect being a surprise. roguetechie |
roguetechie81
User ID: 79785318 United States 09/20/2021 01:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | people are scoffing thinking 300 billion yuan or USD or whatever isn't much. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79033938 they forget all these banks and so on are levered up 100x, and the derivatives markets are 20x bigger than the actual stocks, and the CDOs and other toxic ultra synthetic garbage is probably even bigger than that. 300 billion dollars levered up enough, dropping even a few percent could margin call one domino after another. buffett indicator 240% SP500 in an ascending wedge. and last of all, cramer said to buy bank stocks. here it comes Oh fuck. If Kramer said buy bank stocks it's Time to hold onto your butt because that piece of shit uses the masses as his stock exit strategy roguetechie |
Economic Prepper
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Chlopiec5
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Avenger1
User ID: 79174553 United States 09/20/2021 01:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Comments from the zerohedge article: 1 hour ago (Edited) The Fed officials sold out of their positions recently. Now that they've stepped aside we can expect them to let the market fall...for a time. They will buy in again and then "come to the rescue..." --------------------------------------------------------- Can anyone confirm this? Last Edited by Avenger1 on 09/20/2021 01:43 AM "Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes" "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear" |
roguetechie81
User ID: 79785318 United States 09/20/2021 02:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How can this be the end of the world? Those loans are collateralized by the real estate. Unless real estate values crash in China, the loss is limited. Someone could buy those projects and complete them. Quoting: oniongrass You answered your own question... Most of that collateral has NEGATIVE VALUE! roguetechie |
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SEVENFOURSIXTYEIGHT
User ID: 5423248 United States 09/20/2021 05:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lehman Brothers was just kindergarten compared to Evergrande Group.... Evergrande Group is the MOTHER of all Lehman Brothers. it will make Lehman Brothers look like a pathetic insect.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79156899 you have been warned.... https://imgur.com/V58NYio https://twitter.com/_/status/1438143063306690560 foight to safety. Dow will be up Futures -524 |
Artificial Person
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amazednotdazed
User ID: 80779132 Canada 09/20/2021 07:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lehman Brothers was just kindergarten compared to Evergrande Group.... Evergrande Group is the MOTHER of all Lehman Brothers. it will make Lehman Brothers look like a pathetic insect.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79156899 you have been warned.... https://imgur.com/V58NYio https://twitter.com/_/status/1438143063306690560 China has the two worlds largest banks, not America then Deutche Bank from Germany and then 2 American Banks. This will take the world economy down. Don't kid yourself |
Overdue
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Apocalypse now
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girlie45
User ID: 80424836 United States 09/20/2021 08:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Correct. Called this in January of this year. ( Not educated formally, just a girl from a trailer park who is whip-smart, and educated herself) The investment in the US - real estate-backed securities, and actual real estate is how this will be the death knell. I know for a fact that "foreign investors" have been purchasing in the US since 2013 or so. Dallas is heavily owned by foreign investors. My sister sold her house years ago to one - cash purchase fifty thousand over listed price- she never even met the person. Her home is now a rental. Covid changed the landscape of real estate being the end-all and be-all of our economy. No one can afford to buy a home, and no one can afford to pay for one. Forbearances are ending for many soon, and that's on the rental and homeownership side. All these investors had to front payments for all of these loans to the bank they borrowed from. It does not only affect the Evergrande group. ( they really were not "cash") This crash will formally cause the great reset. It will make the great depression look like a recession. |
Apocalypse now
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Agent 99
User ID: 77082640 United States 09/20/2021 09:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Correct. Called this in January of this year. ( Not educated formally, just a girl from a trailer park who is whip-smart, and educated herself) The investment in the US - real estate-backed securities, and actual real estate is how this will be the death knell. I know for a fact that "foreign investors" have been purchasing in the US since 2013 or so. Dallas is heavily owned by foreign investors. My sister sold her house years ago to one - cash purchase fifty thousand over listed price- she never even met the person. Her home is now a rental. Covid changed the landscape of real estate being the end-all and be-all of our economy. No one can afford to buy a home, and no one can afford to pay for one. Forbearances are ending for many soon, and that's on the rental and homeownership side. All these investors had to front payments for all of these loans to the bank they borrowed from. It does not only affect the Evergrande group. ( they really were not "cash") This crash will formally cause the great reset. It will make the great depression look like a recession. So I should have sold my house before all this? And Platinum will go up substantially? |
G3
User ID: 42054746 United States 09/20/2021 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember remember the crash of September... Quoting: Apocalypse now The twenty third of September something big goes down... https://imgur.com/a/Sgn6lGK |
spEKTre
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Avenger1
User ID: 79174553 United States 09/20/2021 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | $20k Bitcoin is next after hitting $52k, Gareth Soloway’s upside target Gareth Soloway - Technical analyst Crypto & SPY commentary - 17 minutes Notes: * BTC selloff down to 40-41k, then to 30k, then to 18-20k * He will go all in at 18,000 to 20,000K * In cash now on Crypto * Pullbacks in crypto usually around 80% * Short-term bearish * Long-term bullish to $100k and above in 5 yrs. Go to 12:00 for stock market & SPY analysis * There's now a fundamental change in trend line for the SPY downward (see chart) * Going short for the next couple of weeks * Dip buying will occur, but will track down to 360 and/or 200 MA line and then reverse * He is short on Q & SPY * He is buying Chinese stocks at this level; i.e., BABA Just one trader's opinion but the SPY chart is pretty impressive on the technical side. Last Edited by Avenger1 on 09/20/2021 09:21 PM "Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes" "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear" |
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Listening Back
User ID: 77994864 United States 09/21/2021 07:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And just like that, the market doesnt care about Evergrande AT ALL. Hope you bought the dip, cuz the dogshit pile is getting watered again. Dont worry, when theres a real crash, youll know. Last Edited by GorillaGripPussyPal on 09/21/2021 07:57 AM |