U.K. Delta in the vaxxed. 70% of deaths vaxxed and twice as likely to die!!!! | |
WiscoSteve
Professional Shitpost Spotter User ID: 10028848 United States 09/19/2021 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a perfect example of how the USA LIES to us Note 278k "vaxxed" But about 157k vaxxed + 14 days. So 120k vaxxed for less than 2 weeks. In the USA that 120k would be considered UNvaxxed And when do most post vaccine injuries occur? Within 2 days then they tail off gradually. So the LIE they tell us is that all of the injuries CAUSED BY THE FUCKING VAX are covid deaths and illness. Get it? |
Nicomachus
User ID: 75146720 Bahamas 09/19/2021 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 95% of the +50 crowd in the uk have been vaccinated and that is skewing your totals. Quoting: Weisshaupt The elderly as simply more likely to die, period. SO if you have vastly more of those people in the "vaccinated" column it will skew the totals for that column upward If you work these numbers out accounting for over 50 and under 50 you will see different results. I am very skeptical of the vaccine, but here are the numbers I came up with from the table: (no I didn't double check the math, if I made a mistake feel free to point that out) for under 50 Needed emergency visit - unvaxxed 4.2 vaxxed 2.9% Need overnight hospitalization - unvaxed 20.8 % vaxxed 5.4% Deaths - unvaxed 0.05% vaxxed : 0.05.6% For over 50 Needed emergency visit - unvaxxed 14% vaxxed 4.3% Need overnight hospitalization - unvaxed 6.0 % vaxxed 3.7% Deaths - unvaxed 6.9% vaxxed : 2.1% However it should also be noted that this is feb-sept 2021 Hence if the vax fails ( UK approved boosters) or has ill effects you may not see them in this data as it covers a persiod where it would appear the shot was in fact reducing cases, hospitalizations and death - especially among the elderly. (you will note that the death numbers for the under 50 column are a wash) Isn't the whole purpose of the vaccine to prevent this outcome? In other words, the vaccine is not improving results ie 4x more deaths = same or slightly higher than unvaccinated in same age group. "If Muslims are so peaceful, why are so many people afraid to offend them? If Christians are so dangerous, why is nobody afraid to offend them?" Deplorable American Patriot. Deplorable - PERIOD. I will not comply with the NWO. |
ParamedicUK
(OP) User ID: 57670079 United Kingdom 09/19/2021 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They will just say it's because over 70% of the population is vaxxed and the 'jab' is safe and effective. Quoting: Truth Geeza Only 1.2% of all covid deaths in England where double vaxed... So it is safe and effective.. Fully vaccinated people account for 1.2% of England’s Covid-19 deaths [link to www.theguardian.com (secure)] Covid deaths rare among fully vaccinated - ONS [link to www.bbc.co.uk (secure)] Why keep stating this! This is the latest data from PHE they would get their data from the ONS! It is for sequenced delta cases. Last Edited by ParamedicUK on 09/19/2021 10:47 AM Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way…… Peace not War. |
Nicomachus
User ID: 75146720 Bahamas 09/19/2021 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There was 26,862 covid deaths between 1st Feb and 12th Sep NOT 2542... Quoting: Cannabis Kills People!.... Stop cherry picking sample data the gov used for a breifing... that is pure leftist tactics.. The data is for Delta variant. Back in Feb Delta was less than 2%. "If Muslims are so peaceful, why are so many people afraid to offend them? If Christians are so dangerous, why is nobody afraid to offend them?" Deplorable American Patriot. Deplorable - PERIOD. I will not comply with the NWO. |
ParamedicUK
(OP) User ID: 57670079 United Kingdom 09/19/2021 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There was 26,862 covid deaths between 1st Feb and 12th Sep NOT 2542... Quoting: Cannabis Kills People!.... Stop cherry picking sample data the gov used for a breifing... that is pure leftist tactics.. The data is for Delta variant. Back in Feb Delta was less than 2%. Thanks Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way…… Peace not War. |
Zalinsky
User ID: 45481864 United States 09/19/2021 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That table doesn’t exist in the report you linked. Did you make it yourself? There’s no reference to unvaccinated in the entire document. Quoting: Choaduss The data is there in Table 5. The creator of the table in this post just summed and re-arranged the data. OP is technically right that a higher % of double-vaxxed people died than unvaxxed in the sample set of people whose was "sequenced and genotyped". However, OP's analysis has two flaws, one minor and one very major. The minor is that there may be some selection criteria on who gets "sequenced and genotyped". It may not be random. For example, if you have a breakthrough case, they might always sequence and genotype just to see why a double vaxxed person is sick. So the data set might not be random. But there is a much more important and bigger flaw. This is a count of total deaths with a positive COVID test, which is not the same as dying of COVID. The vast majority of very elderly, frail people and people with co-morbidities are vaxxed. These people are also likely to die. Because the percentage of people vaxxed is so high among this vulnerable population, it is always going to push up the fatality rate for vaxxed. Compare that to numbers for less than 50 years age. Vaxxed: 199K cases, 72 deaths: 0.036% Unvaxxed: 248K cases, 132 deaths: 0.053% So arguably, the vaccine creates some protection for younger people. The risk is so low to start with and the increased protection is so minimal, that I still don't understand why anyone would take the vaccine, but OP's statement that vaxxed are "twice as likely to die" is only because people who are very old or very frail are almost all vaxxed. Last Edited by Zalinsky on 09/19/2021 10:53 AM |
Your Huckleberry
User ID: 80892520 United States 09/19/2021 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well they are the incubators of the 'delta' variant...derp.. Quoting: Grove Street (revived) this happened with the second wave of the spanish flu.. they vaccinated too early and sent the whole thing out of control science says you do not vaccinate during a pandemic... people never learn Oh they learned plenty. They knew EXACTLY HOW TO PROCEED TO CAUSE MAXIMUM CHAOS. Your Huckleberry |
Your Huckleberry
User ID: 80892520 United States 09/19/2021 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That table doesn’t exist in the report you linked. Did you make it yourself? There’s no reference to unvaccinated in the entire document. Quoting: Choaduss That table doesn’t exist in the report you linked. Did you make it yourself? There’s no reference to unvaccinated in the entire document. Quoting: Choaduss The data is there in Table 5. The creator of the table in this post just summed and re-arranged the data. OP is technically right that a higher % of double-vaxxed people died than unvaxxed in the sample set of people whose was "sequenced and genotyped". However, OP's analysis has two flaws, one minor and one very major. The minor is that there may be some selection criteria on who gets "sequenced and genotyped". It may not be random. For example, if you have a breakthrough case, they might always sequence and genotype just to see why a double vaxxed person is sick. So the data set might not be random. But there is a much more important and bigger flaw. This is a count of total deaths with a positive COVID test, which is not the same as dying of COVID. The vast majority of very elderly, frail people and people with co-morbidities are vaxxed. These people are also likely to die. Because the percentage of people vaxxed is so high among this vulnerable population, it is always going to push up the fatality rate for vaxxed. Compare that to numbers for less than 50 years age. Vaxxed: 199K cases, 72 deaths: 0.036% Unvaxxed: 248K cases, 132 deaths: 0.053% So arguably, the vaccine creates some protection for younger people. The risk is so low to start with and the increased protection is so minimal, that I still don't understand why anyone would take the vaccine, but OP's statement that vaxxed are "twice as likely to die" is only because people who are very old or very frail are almost all vaxxed. Then you need to include the severe adverse events for the under 50 years. Oh wait, there are no severe adverse events from being unvaccinated? HMMMMMMM. Your Huckleberry |
Zalinsky
User ID: 45481864 United States 09/19/2021 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That table doesn’t exist in the report you linked. Did you make it yourself? There’s no reference to unvaccinated in the entire document. Quoting: Choaduss That table doesn’t exist in the report you linked. Did you make it yourself? There’s no reference to unvaccinated in the entire document. Quoting: Choaduss The data is there in Table 5. The creator of the table in this post just summed and re-arranged the data. OP is technically right that a higher % of double-vaxxed people died than unvaxxed in the sample set of people whose was "sequenced and genotyped". However, OP's analysis has two flaws, one minor and one very major. The minor is that there may be some selection criteria on who gets "sequenced and genotyped". It may not be random. For example, if you have a breakthrough case, they might always sequence and genotype just to see why a double vaxxed person is sick. So the data set might not be random. But there is a much more important and bigger flaw. This is a count of total deaths with a positive COVID test, which is not the same as dying of COVID. The vast majority of very elderly, frail people and people with co-morbidities are vaxxed. These people are also likely to die. Because the percentage of people vaxxed is so high among this vulnerable population, it is always going to push up the fatality rate for vaxxed. Compare that to numbers for less than 50 years age. Vaxxed: 199K cases, 72 deaths: 0.036% Unvaxxed: 248K cases, 132 deaths: 0.053% So arguably, the vaccine creates some protection for younger people. The risk is so low to start with and the increased protection is so minimal, that I still don't understand why anyone would take the vaccine, but OP's statement that vaxxed are "twice as likely to die" is only because people who are very old or very frail are almost all vaxxed. Then you need to include the severe adverse events for the under 50 years. Oh wait, there are no severe adverse events from being unvaccinated? HMMMMMMM. I agree with you. I don't think anyone under 50 should take the vax unless severe co-morbidities. My point was it is wrong to claim 2x or 4x more deaths from double vaxxed, since the double vaxxed are more likely to die anyway. Last Edited by Zalinsky on 09/19/2021 10:59 AM |
ADEND
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Jim6152
User ID: 80849090 United Kingdom 09/19/2021 11:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They will just say it's because over 70% of the population is vaxxed and the 'jab' is safe and effective. Quoting: Truth Geeza Only 1.2% of all covid deaths in England where double vaxed... So it is safe and effective.. Fully vaccinated people account for 1.2% of England’s Covid-19 deaths [link to www.theguardian.com (secure)] Covid deaths rare among fully vaccinated - ONS [link to www.bbc.co.uk (secure)] |
Your Huckleberry
User ID: 80892520 United States 09/19/2021 11:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That table doesn’t exist in the report you linked. Did you make it yourself? There’s no reference to unvaccinated in the entire document. Quoting: Choaduss That table doesn’t exist in the report you linked. Did you make it yourself? There’s no reference to unvaccinated in the entire document. Quoting: Choaduss The data is there in Table 5. The creator of the table in this post just summed and re-arranged the data. OP is technically right that a higher % of double-vaxxed people died than unvaxxed in the sample set of people whose was "sequenced and genotyped". However, OP's analysis has two flaws, one minor and one very major. The minor is that there may be some selection criteria on who gets "sequenced and genotyped". It may not be random. For example, if you have a breakthrough case, they might always sequence and genotype just to see why a double vaxxed person is sick. So the data set might not be random. But there is a much more important and bigger flaw. This is a count of total deaths with a positive COVID test, which is not the same as dying of COVID. The vast majority of very elderly, frail people and people with co-morbidities are vaxxed. These people are also likely to die. Because the percentage of people vaxxed is so high among this vulnerable population, it is always going to push up the fatality rate for vaxxed. Compare that to numbers for less than 50 years age. Vaxxed: 199K cases, 72 deaths: 0.036% Unvaxxed: 248K cases, 132 deaths: 0.053% So arguably, the vaccine creates some protection for younger people. The risk is so low to start with and the increased protection is so minimal, that I still don't understand why anyone would take the vaccine, but OP's statement that vaxxed are "twice as likely to die" is only because people who are very old or very frail are almost all vaxxed. Then you need to include the severe adverse events for the under 50 years. Oh wait, there are no severe adverse events from being unvaccinated? HMMMMMMM. I agree with you. I don't think anyone under 50 should take the vax unless severe co-morbidities. My point was it is wrong to claim 2x or 4x more deaths from double vaxxed, so the double vaxxed are more likely to die anyway. No one should take the VAX PERIOD. Comorbidities or not. There are a dozen courses of action that i could rattle off the top of my head that will prevent COVID, OR prevent mild symptoms from getting worse, OR prevent severe symptoms from killing any person of ANY AGE or condition. THAT is the only thing we should be talking about. Fuck the VAX. Last Edited by Your Huckleberry on 09/19/2021 11:00 AM Your Huckleberry |
This Vaccine Will Kill You
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Camus2020
Boring Person User ID: 77960454 United States 09/19/2021 11:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That table doesn’t exist in the report you linked. Did you make it yourself? There’s no reference to unvaccinated in the entire document. Quoting: Choaduss There is a reference (last column of table 5) That said it would be great if someone can provide a video link on how to explain the numbers for laypeople. |
Tamaralori
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ParamedicUK
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Tensei
User ID: 78927174 Japan 09/19/2021 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That table doesn’t exist in the report you linked. Did you make it yourself? There’s no reference to unvaccinated in the entire document. Quoting: Choaduss That table doesn’t exist in the report you linked. Did you make it yourself? There’s no reference to unvaccinated in the entire document. Quoting: Choaduss The data is there in Table 5. The creator of the table in this post just summed and re-arranged the data. OP is technically right that a higher % of double-vaxxed people died than unvaxxed in the sample set of people whose was "sequenced and genotyped". However, OP's analysis has two flaws, one minor and one very major. The minor is that there may be some selection criteria on who gets "sequenced and genotyped". It may not be random. For example, if you have a breakthrough case, they might always sequence and genotype just to see why a double vaxxed person is sick. So the data set might not be random. But there is a much more important and bigger flaw. This is a count of total deaths with a positive COVID test, which is not the same as dying of COVID. The vast majority of very elderly, frail people and people with co-morbidities are vaxxed. These people are also likely to die. Because the percentage of people vaxxed is so high among this vulnerable population, it is always going to push up the fatality rate for vaxxed. Compare that to numbers for less than 50 years age. Vaxxed: 199K cases, 72 deaths: 0.036% Unvaxxed: 248K cases, 132 deaths: 0.053% So arguably, the vaccine creates some protection for younger people. The risk is so low to start with and the increased protection is so minimal, that I still don't understand why anyone would take the vaccine, but OP's statement that vaxxed are "twice as likely to die" is only because people who are very old or very frail are almost all vaxxed. Then you need to include the severe adverse events for the under 50 years. Oh wait, there are no severe adverse events from being unvaccinated? HMMMMMMM. I agree with you. I don't think anyone under 50 should take the vax unless severe co-morbidities. My point was it is wrong to claim 2x or 4x more deaths from double vaxxed, since the double vaxxed are more likely to die anyway. True, but they haven't used that method in their reporting cases/deaths since COVID began in January 2020. It's a complete manipulation of the data to suit their agenda. In the US, when looking at the death count, they don't publish how many people already had terminal medical comorbidities when they contracted COVID. They simply list the person's death as a COVID death based upon the fact that they tested positive via a PCR test (which up until April 2021 were being run at 35 or greater cycles). Which is also why the US logged only ~327 deaths from influenza/pneumonia for 2020, when every other year prior would typically have between 47,000 deaths - 72,000 deaths from Influenza and Pneumonia. It's been one giant scam from the start, and they're using the "data" in creative ways to perpetuate the scam. I'm not saying there isn't a real virus/bug that's been getting people ill and in some cases possibly killing them, I'm saying they have made it seem like every death is COVID related and crediting COVID with a lot more deaths than it should be credited with. Do you know the difference between justice and punishment? 2+2=4 |
Grove Street (revived)
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This Vaccine Will Kill You
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burneracct
User ID: 28517539 United States 09/19/2021 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | every 2 vaxxed people die to save one covid death Quoting: Grove Street (revived) FDA had the statistics out the other day seems reasonable. Wow - did someone say that. Probably worse in kids!! That was vaers data so it could be 20 or even 200 to 1 Also The clinical trail showed 5 to 1 Pfizer redefining rare. |
ParamedicUK
(OP) User ID: 57670079 United Kingdom 09/19/2021 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That table doesn’t exist in the report you linked. Did you make it yourself? There’s no reference to unvaccinated in the entire document. Quoting: Choaduss There is a reference (last column of table 5) That said it would be great if someone can provide a video link on how to explain the numbers for laypeople. The table from the report…. https://imgur.com/wlfggTk Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way…… Peace not War. |
ParamedicUK
(OP) User ID: 57670079 United Kingdom 09/19/2021 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lot's of people are going to get a huge awakening this flu season. Education the hard way. Quoting: Tamaralori Yes Winter is going to be hell. Maybe you can tell me how they’re testing for that delta variant.. They are going full genetic sequencing on those cases. Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way…… Peace not War. |
Tensei
User ID: 78927174 Japan 09/19/2021 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Genomic sequencing would be the only way they could test that. It's expensive and time consuming. Are they really doing genomic sequencing on that many samples? Who knows for sure, but based on the sheer level of intellectual dishonesty and junk-science they've thrown out there so far, I tend to believe they're lying about that as well. Do you know the difference between justice and punishment? 2+2=4 |
This Vaccine Will Kill You
User ID: 79339373 United States 09/19/2021 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lot's of people are going to get a huge awakening this flu season. Education the hard way. Quoting: Tamaralori Yes Winter is going to be hell. Maybe you can tell me how they’re testing for that delta variant.. They are going full genetic sequencing on those cases. Where? Who’s doing the computer modeling? This Vaccine Will Kill You |
CigarTigher
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Pilgrim001
User ID: 78018011 United States 09/19/2021 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is looking more and more that this is complete vaccine failure..... Quoting: ParamedicUK Pathological Priming and A.D.E. are showing their ugly heads.... ??? It wasn't a "vaccine", it was a shot of graphene oxide. It was a failure as a vaccine from the very first jab. They lied and they don't care if you die. They might even hope that you do. Communism is for LOSERS Communism is SLAVERY Fuck Joe Biden |
Pilgrim001
User ID: 78018011 United States 09/19/2021 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lot's of people are going to get a huge awakening this flu season. Education the hard way. Quoting: Tamaralori Yes Winter is going to be hell. Maybe you can tell me how they’re testing for that delta variant.. Easy. If they got the graphene oxide jab, they have "Delta" covid. If they die, they died of Delta covid. Communism is for LOSERS Communism is SLAVERY Fuck Joe Biden |
Tensei
User ID: 78927174 Japan 09/19/2021 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe you can tell me how they’re testing for that delta variant.. They are going full genetic sequencing on those cases. Where? Who’s doing the computer modeling? This is what I found using a quick internet search. There are 7 genomic sequencing labs that NHS uses (according to this NHS web page). [link to www.england.nhs.uk (secure)] Are they actually doing true genomic sequencing on all of the samples being sent in? I would guess no, they are not based on the cost and time it takes to do them. Do you know the difference between justice and punishment? 2+2=4 |
Pilgrim001
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Jay.Crew
User ID: 40230781 United States 09/19/2021 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lot's of people are going to get a huge awakening this flu season. Education the hard way. Quoting: Tamaralori Yes Winter is going to be hell. Maybe you can tell me how they’re testing for that delta variant.. They are going full genetic sequencing on those cases. You mean like the genetic sequencing they did to create the bogus PCR tests they made without an isolated Covid 19 sample? Check out this thread for important statistics which have showed (since early summer 2021) that Covid “Vaccine” is more likely to KILL YOU than save you: Thread: COVID JAB statistically more likely to KILL YOU per official CDC DATA. You’re 3.87x more likely to die from the Pfizer vax than save your life!! |