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Looking for study where all animals died from ADE after taking MRNA Vaccine
Hey,

Im looking for a clinical study to show my partner where the animals all died from exposure to the disease due to ADE from taking the MRNA vaccine...I've heard this stated many times by different people but I am searching on google and I cant seem to find it.

Does anyone have screenshots or a link to this study?

The factcheckers obviously say its not true but I cant see why doctors and nurses would be stating this is a real study if it isnt out there somewhere...

thanks.
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Welcome to the world of anit-vax misinformation
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Welcome to the world of anit-vax misinformation
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Well hopefully someone proves that then?
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Re: Looking for study where all animals died from ADE after taking MRNA Vaccine
Ferrets and mice and Sars cov 2003 [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] possibly caused ade

If you search ferrets you'll find a few.

No mrna was approved before Sars cov 2, so look up those studies and reasons for non approval to date.

Redacted/conspiracy/comments/p8ov38/acceptable_reasons_for_va​ccine_hesitance_w_50/.compact

3. There is a potential for ADE, antibody dependent enhancement. This is when the virus mutates so that the antibodies no longer neutralize the virus but the antibodies still try to attach to it. This can actually help the virus get into your immune cells because when the virus is covered with antibodies it will draw macrophages to the virus that will try to eat it. However, when your macrophages come to eat the virus particle that they think has been neutralized, the virus gets inside them and starts replicating because the antibodies actually didn't neutralize the virus. Your own antibodies act like a kind of Trojan Horse. Another way that ADE can happen is your own antibodies connect to the receptors of your cells and actually help the virus get in directly. This was a huge problem with the Dengue vaccine and we need to do a lot of testing to make sure this isn't a possibility. Clearly with these rushed vaccines we haven't eliminated this possibility and with the virus mutating, ADE may pop up with a later variant. We must stay vigilant and keep an eye out for this signal. It will manifest as people with high antibody levels being more likely to get sick and die.

Antibody Dependent Enhancement:-

Journal article from 2005 shows evidence that sars-cov1 vaccine, that also focused on the spike protein, caused ADE when subjects were challenged with different strain: [link to www.nature.com (secure)]

Article explaining how ADE works in Sar-cov1: [link to www.nature.com (secure)]

Article explaining the potential for ADE in Covid19: [link to www.nature.com (secure)]

Another article that speculates on the potential for ADE in Covid19: [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

Article from 2021 explains that there is evidence that covid19 is able to kill macrophages by using antibody dependent mechanisms: [link to www.biorxiv.org (secure)]

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Re: Looking for study where all animals died from ADE after taking MRNA Vaccine
An interesting read with some links...

[link to www.paulcraigroberts.org (secure)]

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In no study has any animal died as a result of the mRNA vaccines. It's a bullshit lie.
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thanks guys thats exactly what I was looking for.
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Ferrets and mice and Sars cov 2003 [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] possibly caused ade

If you search ferrets you'll find a few.

No mrna was approved before Sars cov 2, so look up those studies and reasons for non approval to date.

Redacted/conspiracy/comments/p8ov38/acceptable_reasons_for_va​ccine_hesitance_w_50/.compact

3. There is a potential for ADE, antibody dependent enhancement. This is when the virus mutates so that the antibodies no longer neutralize the virus but the antibodies still try to attach to it. This can actually help the virus get into your immune cells because when the virus is covered with antibodies it will draw macrophages to the virus that will try to eat it. However, when your macrophages come to eat the virus particle that they think has been neutralized, the virus gets inside them and starts replicating because the antibodies actually didn't neutralize the virus. Your own antibodies act like a kind of Trojan Horse. Another way that ADE can happen is your own antibodies connect to the receptors of your cells and actually help the virus get in directly. This was a huge problem with the Dengue vaccine and we need to do a lot of testing to make sure this isn't a possibility. Clearly with these rushed vaccines we haven't eliminated this possibility and with the virus mutating, ADE may pop up with a later variant. We must stay vigilant and keep an eye out for this signal. It will manifest as people with high antibody levels being more likely to get sick and die.

Antibody Dependent Enhancement:-

Journal article from 2005 shows evidence that sars-cov1 vaccine, that also focused on the spike protein, caused ADE when subjects were challenged with different strain: [link to www.nature.com (secure)]

Article explaining how ADE works in Sar-cov1: [link to www.nature.com (secure)]

Article explaining the potential for ADE in Covid19: [link to www.nature.com (secure)]

Another article that speculates on the potential for ADE in Covid19: [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

Article from 2021 explains that there is evidence that covid19 is able to kill macrophages by using antibody dependent mechanisms: [link to www.biorxiv.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Nayab65


Your example is for a different virus, completely different vaccine technology, and the mice in that study did not die as a result of the vaccine, they were killed so their organs could be studied.

ADE is a risk for all vaccines, there is no evidence that it's occuring with these ones.
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Re: Looking for study where all animals died from ADE after taking MRNA Vaccine
Ferrets and mice and Sars cov 2003 [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] possibly caused ade

If you search ferrets you'll find a few.

No mrna was approved before Sars cov 2, so look up those studies and reasons for non approval to date.

Redacted/conspiracy/comments/p8ov38/acceptable_reasons_for_va​ccine_hesitance_w_50/.compact

3. There is a potential for ADE, antibody dependent enhancement. This is when the virus mutates so that the antibodies no longer neutralize the virus but the antibodies still try to attach to it. This can actually help the virus get into your immune cells because when the virus is covered with antibodies it will draw macrophages to the virus that will try to eat it. However, when your macrophages come to eat the virus particle that they think has been neutralized, the virus gets inside them and starts replicating because the antibodies actually didn't neutralize the virus. Your own antibodies act like a kind of Trojan Horse. Another way that ADE can happen is your own antibodies connect to the receptors of your cells and actually help the virus get in directly. This was a huge problem with the Dengue vaccine and we need to do a lot of testing to make sure this isn't a possibility. Clearly with these rushed vaccines we haven't eliminated this possibility and with the virus mutating, ADE may pop up with a later variant. We must stay vigilant and keep an eye out for this signal. It will manifest as people with high antibody levels being more likely to get sick and die.

Antibody Dependent Enhancement:-

Journal article from 2005 shows evidence that sars-cov1 vaccine, that also focused on the spike protein, caused ADE when subjects were challenged with different strain: [link to www.nature.com (secure)]

Article explaining how ADE works in Sar-cov1: [link to www.nature.com (secure)]

Article explaining the potential for ADE in Covid19: [link to www.nature.com (secure)]

Another article that speculates on the potential for ADE in Covid19: [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

Article from 2021 explains that there is evidence that covid19 is able to kill macrophages by using antibody dependent mechanisms: [link to www.biorxiv.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Nayab65


Your example is for a different virus, completely different vaccine technology, and the mice in that study did not die as a result of the vaccine, they were killed so their organs could be studied.

ADE is a risk for all vaccines, there is no evidence that it's occuring with these ones.
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Re: Looking for study where all animals died from ADE after taking MRNA Vaccine
Ferrets and mice and Sars cov 2003 [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] possibly caused ade

If you search ferrets you'll find a few.

No mrna was approved before Sars cov 2, so look up those studies and reasons for non approval to date.

Redacted/conspiracy/comments/p8ov38/acceptable_reasons_for_va​ccine_hesitance_w_50/.compact

3. There is a potential for ADE, antibody dependent enhancement. This is when the virus mutates so that the antibodies no longer neutralize the virus but the antibodies still try to attach to it. This can actually help the virus get into your immune cells because when the virus is covered with antibodies it will draw macrophages to the virus that will try to eat it. However, when your macrophages come to eat the virus particle that they think has been neutralized, the virus gets inside them and starts replicating because the antibodies actually didn't neutralize the virus. Your own antibodies act like a kind of Trojan Horse. Another way that ADE can happen is your own antibodies connect to the receptors of your cells and actually help the virus get in directly. This was a huge problem with the Dengue vaccine and we need to do a lot of testing to make sure this isn't a possibility. Clearly with these rushed vaccines we haven't eliminated this possibility and with the virus mutating, ADE may pop up with a later variant. We must stay vigilant and keep an eye out for this signal. It will manifest as people with high antibody levels being more likely to get sick and die.

Antibody Dependent Enhancement:-

Journal article from 2005 shows evidence that sars-cov1 vaccine, that also focused on the spike protein, caused ADE when subjects were challenged with different strain: [link to www.nature.com (secure)]

Article explaining how ADE works in Sar-cov1: [link to www.nature.com (secure)]

Article explaining the potential for ADE in Covid19: [link to www.nature.com (secure)]

Another article that speculates on the potential for ADE in Covid19: [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

Article from 2021 explains that there is evidence that covid19 is able to kill macrophages by using antibody dependent mechanisms: [link to www.biorxiv.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Nayab65


Your example is for a different virus, completely different vaccine technology, and the mice in that study did not die as a result of the vaccine, they were killed so their organs could be studied.

ADE is a risk for all vaccines, there is no evidence that it's occuring with these ones.
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Look at his name lol you can tell why he made an account too.
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Re: Looking for study where all animals died from ADE after taking MRNA Vaccine
Ferrets and mice and Sars cov 2003 [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] possibly caused ade

If you search ferrets you'll find a few.

No mrna was approved before Sars cov 2, so look up those studies and reasons for non approval to date.

Redacted/conspiracy/comments/p8ov38/acceptable_reasons_for_va​ccine_hesitance_w_50/.compact

3. There is a potential for ADE, antibody dependent enhancement. This is when the virus mutates so that the antibodies no longer neutralize the virus but the antibodies still try to attach to it. This can actually help the virus get into your immune cells because when the virus is covered with antibodies it will draw macrophages to the virus that will try to eat it. However, when your macrophages come to eat the virus particle that they think has been neutralized, the virus gets inside them and starts replicating because the antibodies actually didn't neutralize the virus. Your own antibodies act like a kind of Trojan Horse. Another way that ADE can happen is your own antibodies connect to the receptors of your cells and actually help the virus get in directly. This was a huge problem with the Dengue vaccine and we need to do a lot of testing to make sure this isn't a possibility. Clearly with these rushed vaccines we haven't eliminated this possibility and with the virus mutating, ADE may pop up with a later variant. We must stay vigilant and keep an eye out for this signal. It will manifest as people with high antibody levels being more likely to get sick and die.

Antibody Dependent Enhancement:-

Journal article from 2005 shows evidence that sars-cov1 vaccine, that also focused on the spike protein, caused ADE when subjects were challenged with different strain: [link to www.nature.com (secure)]

Article explaining how ADE works in Sar-cov1: [link to www.nature.com (secure)]

Article explaining the potential for ADE in Covid19: [link to www.nature.com (secure)]

Another article that speculates on the potential for ADE in Covid19: [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

Article from 2021 explains that there is evidence that covid19 is able to kill macrophages by using antibody dependent mechanisms: [link to www.biorxiv.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Nayab65


Your example is for a different virus, completely different vaccine technology, and the mice in that study did not die as a result of the vaccine, they were killed so their organs could be studied.

ADE is a risk for all vaccines, there is no evidence that it's occuring with these ones.
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Look at his name lol you can tell why he made an account too.
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Ignore the facts if you want, but know that you're deliberately allowing incorrect information to shape your world view.
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Re: Looking for study where all animals died from ADE after taking MRNA Vaccine
According to Dr. Lee Merritt,

What happened is all animals died… but they didn’t die of the “vaccine”. What they died from what used to be called “immune enhancement” and now they call it “antibody-dependent enhancement” (ADE). In animal studies, after mRNA injections have been administered to cats, when the virus arrived once again into the body, it arrived like a Trojan Horse, undetected by the cats’ own immune system. The virus multiplied unchallenged and all animals involved in the experiment died from various causes.

Here’s what happens:

They make the RNA and you get the “vaccine” and you do fine. Now, you challenge the animal with the virus that you are supposed to be immunizing against.

So when they challenged those cats with SARS [a.k.a. SARS-CoV-1, is a coronavirus species], instead of killing the virus or weakening it, the immune response that they built into your system when out and codded the virus, so the virus came into the cat’s body like a Trojan Horse, unseen by the cat’s own immune system, and then it replicated without checking and killed the cat with overwhelming sepsis and cardiac failure. And that [also] happened in ferrets, that happened every time they tried this.



Let me just point out. We have never made it through an animal study successfully for this type of virus.
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Re: Looking for study where all animals died from ADE after taking MRNA Vaccine
Hey,

Im looking for a clinical study to show my partner where the animals all died from exposure to the disease due to ADE from taking the MRNA vaccine...I've heard this stated many times by different people but I am searching on google and I cant seem to find it.

Does anyone have screenshots or a link to this study?

The factcheckers obviously say its not true but I cant see why doctors and nurses would be stating this is a real study if it isnt out there somewhere...

thanks.
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It shouldn't be hard,
search words "any and all animal testing MRNA vaccine".
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Ferrets and mice and Sars cov 2003 [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] possibly caused ade

If you search ferrets you'll find a few.

No mrna was approved before Sars cov 2, so look up those studies and reasons for non approval to date.

Redacted/conspiracy/comments/p8ov38/acceptable_reasons_for_va​ccine_hesitance_w_50/.compact

3. There is a potential for ADE, antibody dependent enhancement. This is when the virus mutates so that the antibodies no longer neutralize the virus but the antibodies still try to attach to it. This can actually help the virus get into your immune cells because when the virus is covered with antibodies it will draw macrophages to the virus that will try to eat it. However, when your macrophages come to eat the virus particle that they think has been neutralized, the virus gets inside them and starts replicating because the antibodies actually didn't neutralize the virus. Your own antibodies act like a kind of Trojan Horse. Another way that ADE can happen is your own antibodies connect to the receptors of your cells and actually help the virus get in directly. This was a huge problem with the Dengue vaccine and we need to do a lot of testing to make sure this isn't a possibility. Clearly with these rushed vaccines we haven't eliminated this possibility and with the virus mutating, ADE may pop up with a later variant. We must stay vigilant and keep an eye out for this signal. It will manifest as people with high antibody levels being more likely to get sick and die.

Antibody Dependent Enhancement:-

Journal article from 2005 shows evidence that sars-cov1 vaccine, that also focused on the spike protein, caused ADE when subjects were challenged with different strain: [link to www.nature.com (secure)]

Article explaining how ADE works in Sar-cov1: [link to www.nature.com (secure)]

Article explaining the potential for ADE in Covid19: [link to www.nature.com (secure)]

Another article that speculates on the potential for ADE in Covid19: [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

Article from 2021 explains that there is evidence that covid19 is able to kill macrophages by using antibody dependent mechanisms: [link to www.biorxiv.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Nayab65



Hey OP, tell your partner to that in thier pipe and smoke it.
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not about dead ferets but all of the studies referenced in the ade advice for specific warning of ade should be of interest.

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
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Ferrets and mice and Sars cov 2003 [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] possibly caused ade

If you search ferrets you'll find a few.

No mrna was approved before Sars cov 2, so look up those studies and reasons for non approval to date.

Redacted/conspiracy/comments/p8ov38/acceptable_reasons_for_va​ccine_hesitance_w_50/.compact

3. There is a potential for ADE, antibody dependent enhancement. This is when the virus mutates so that the antibodies no longer neutralize the virus but the antibodies still try to attach to it. This can actually help the virus get into your immune cells because when the virus is covered with antibodies it will draw macrophages to the virus that will try to eat it. However, when your macrophages come to eat the virus particle that they think has been neutralized, the virus gets inside them and starts replicating because the antibodies actually didn't neutralize the virus. Your own antibodies act like a kind of Trojan Horse. Another way that ADE can happen is your own antibodies connect to the receptors of your cells and actually help the virus get in directly. This was a huge problem with the Dengue vaccine and we need to do a lot of testing to make sure this isn't a possibility. Clearly with these rushed vaccines we haven't eliminated this possibility and with the virus mutating, ADE may pop up with a later variant. We must stay vigilant and keep an eye out for this signal. It will manifest as people with high antibody levels being more likely to get sick and die.

Antibody Dependent Enhancement:-

Journal article from 2005 shows evidence that sars-cov1 vaccine, that also focused on the spike protein, caused ADE when subjects were challenged with different strain: [link to www.nature.com (secure)]

Article explaining how ADE works in Sar-cov1: [link to www.nature.com (secure)]

Article explaining the potential for ADE in Covid19: [link to www.nature.com (secure)]

Another article that speculates on the potential for ADE in Covid19: [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

Article from 2021 explains that there is evidence that covid19 is able to kill macrophages by using antibody dependent mechanisms: [link to www.biorxiv.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Nayab65



Hey OP, tell your partner to that in thier pipe and smoke it.
clappa
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He is honestly such a sweet heart...

He is reading all the articles now. We have never argued he just wants more information on the facts so these things are more reliable in his eyes...he never listens to youtube videos etc...

We are both unvaccinated I just want him to have stronger convictions. He is not vaccinating because I begged him not to, but I'm hoping if I show him WHY I feel the way I do, and he can read factual information from doctors and studies he will have his own convictions...

I really appreciate your help. We just want to be educated. We are not anti vax, but this "vaccine" is still in clinical trials and it is not "safe" and "effective" based on my personal research...

Our province in canada starting the 21st of september are removing the rights of all unvaccinated and introducing a vaccine passport...we wont be able to do anything that is not considered "essential". Since its going to actively be affecting our lives so much, I want him to be sure of his decision... not just do it to make me happy... I just want him to be safe.
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Your example is for a different virus, completely different vaccine technology, and the mice in that study did not die as a result of the vaccine, they were killed so their organs could be studied.

ADE is a risk for all vaccines, there is no evidence that it's occuring with these ones.
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A guy who joined hours ago!
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Look at his name lol you can tell why he made an account too.
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Ignore the facts if you want, but know that you're deliberately allowing incorrect information to shape your world view.
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Why you posting from two different accounts?
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Ferrets and mice and Sars cov 2003 [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] possibly caused ade

If you search ferrets you'll find a few.

No mrna was approved before Sars cov 2, so look up those studies and reasons for non approval to date.

Redacted/conspiracy/comments/p8ov38/acceptable_reasons_for_va​ccine_hesitance_w_50/.compact

3. There is a potential for ADE, antibody dependent enhancement. This is when the virus mutates so that the antibodies no longer neutralize the virus but the antibodies still try to attach to it. This can actually help the virus get into your immune cells because when the virus is covered with antibodies it will draw macrophages to the virus that will try to eat it. However, when your macrophages come to eat the virus particle that they think has been neutralized, the virus gets inside them and starts replicating because the antibodies actually didn't neutralize the virus. Your own antibodies act like a kind of Trojan Horse. Another way that ADE can happen is your own antibodies connect to the receptors of your cells and actually help the virus get in directly. This was a huge problem with the Dengue vaccine and we need to do a lot of testing to make sure this isn't a possibility. Clearly with these rushed vaccines we haven't eliminated this possibility and with the virus mutating, ADE may pop up with a later variant. We must stay vigilant and keep an eye out for this signal. It will manifest as people with high antibody levels being more likely to get sick and die.

Antibody Dependent Enhancement:-

Journal article from 2005 shows evidence that sars-cov1 vaccine, that also focused on the spike protein, caused ADE when subjects were challenged with different strain: [link to www.nature.com (secure)]

Article explaining how ADE works in Sar-cov1: [link to www.nature.com (secure)]

Article explaining the potential for ADE in Covid19: [link to www.nature.com (secure)]

Another article that speculates on the potential for ADE in Covid19: [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

Article from 2021 explains that there is evidence that covid19 is able to kill macrophages by using antibody dependent mechanisms: [link to www.biorxiv.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Nayab65



Hey OP, tell your partner to that in thier pipe and smoke it.
clappa
 Quoting: Hiballdrinker222


He is honestly such a sweet heart...

He is reading all the articles now. We have never argued he just wants more information on the facts so these things are more reliable in his eyes...he never listens to youtube videos etc...

We are both unvaccinated I just want him to have stronger convictions. He is not vaccinating because I begged him not to, but I'm hoping if I show him WHY I feel the way I do, and he can read factual information from doctors and studies he will have his own convictions...

I really appreciate your help. We just want to be educated. We are not anti vax, but this "vaccine" is still in clinical trials and it is not "safe" and "effective" based on my personal research...

Our province in canada starting the 21st of september are removing the rights of all unvaccinated and introducing a vaccine passport...we wont be able to do anything that is not considered "essential". Since its going to actively be affecting our lives so much, I want him to be sure of his decision... not just do it to make me happy... I just want him to be safe.
 Quoting: Opheliac


very noble of you....good to see!
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Re: Looking for study where all animals died from ADE after taking MRNA Vaccine
It’s like a game of telephone. Eventually people left out the fact that the animal deaths were caused by potential coronavirus vaccines that were never approved, I’m not sure when people started adding MRNA into that. MRNA technology wasn’t around back then.


It doesn’t change the fact that these “vaccines” are a serious fucking danger to any moron who receives them. They’ve tried for 30 years to make a legit coronavirus vaccine and failed until the EUA the FDA gave during this ridiculously blown out of proportion “pandemic”.
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Re: Looking for study where all animals died from ADE after taking MRNA Vaccine
Might want to start here:

Stephanie Seneff PhD at MIT

"Worse Than the Disease? Reviewing Some Possible
Unintended Consequences of the mRNA Vaccines
Against COVID-19"


Written by:
Stephanie Seneff and Greg Nigh

Study published in International Journal of Vaccine Theory, Practice & Research

It can be found via duck duck go:

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According to Dr. Lee Merritt,

What happened is all animals died… but they didn’t die of the “vaccine”. What they died from what used to be called “immune enhancement” and now they call it “antibody-dependent enhancement” (ADE). In animal studies, after mRNA injections have been administered to cats, when the virus arrived once again into the body, it arrived like a Trojan Horse, undetected by the cats’ own immune system. The virus multiplied unchallenged and all animals involved in the experiment died from various causes.

Here’s what happens:

They make the RNA and you get the “vaccine” and you do fine. Now, you challenge the animal with the virus that you are supposed to be immunizing against.

So when they challenged those cats with SARS [a.k.a. SARS-CoV-1, is a coronavirus species], instead of killing the virus or weakening it, the immune response that they built into your system when out and codded the virus, so the virus came into the cat’s body like a Trojan Horse, unseen by the cat’s own immune system, and then it replicated without checking and killed the cat with overwhelming sepsis and cardiac failure. And that [also] happened in ferrets, that happened every time they tried this.



Let me just point out. We have never made it through an animal study successfully for this type of virus.
 Quoting: Graycee2493


Links to facts? Your cat story is bs.

It's true that no successful coronavirus vaccine had been developed prior to the currently available ones, but it's only fairly recently that they've even attempted to create one and little effort was made previously compared to now in the middle of a global pandemic.

Even so only a handful of the vaccines that they were working on harmed their subjects the rest were ineffective for other reasons. This is how science works, I can show you many examples of vaccines and other life saving medicine that failed at first.
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In no study has any animal died as a result of the mRNA vaccines. It's a bullshit lie.
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Haha. Except HUMANS fron heart attacks induced by blood clots.

In THIS animal study, the one YOU are part of.

Its on VAERS. So, WTF are you talking about?
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ADE has proven to be a serious challenge with coronavirus vaccines, and this is the primary reason many have failed in early in-vitro or animal trials. For example, rhesus macaques who were vaccinated with the Spike protein of the SARS-CoV virus demonstrated severe acute lung injury when challenged with SARS-CoV, while monkeys who were not vaccinated did not. Similarly, mice who were immunized with one of four different SARS-CoV vaccines showed histopathological changes in the lungs with eosinophil infiltration after being challenged with SARS-CoV virus. This did not occur in the controls that had not been vaccinated. A similar problem occurred in the development of a vaccine for FIPV, which is a feline coronavirus.

A major trigger for ADE is viral mutation. Changes to the amino acid sequence of the Spike Protein (which is the protein on the virus that facilitates entry into our cells via the ACE2 receptor) can cause antigenic drift. What this means is that an antibody that was once neutralizing can become a non-neutralizing antibody because the antigen has slightly changed. Therefore, mutations in the Spike protein that naturally occur with coronaviruses could presumably result in ADE. Since these future strains are not predictable, it is impossible to predict if ADE will become a problem at a future date.

This inherent unpredictability problem is highlighted in the following scenario: A coronavirus vaccine may not be dangerous initially. If the initial testing looks positive, mass vaccination efforts would presumably be administered to a large portion of the population. In the first year or two, it may appear that there is no real safety issue, and over time, a greater percentage of the world population will be vaccinated due to this perceived “safety”. During this interim period, the virus is busy mutating. Eventually, the antibodies that vaccinated individuals have floating around in their bloodstream are now rendered non-neutralizing because they fail to bind to the virus with the same affinity due to the structural change resulting from the mutation. Declining concentrations of the antibody over time would also contribute to this shift towards non-neutralization. When these previously vaccinate people are infected with this different strain of SARS-CoV-2, they could experience a much more severe reaction to the virus.

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Re: Looking for study where all animals died from ADE after taking MRNA Vaccine
According to Dr. Lee Merritt,

What happened is all animals died… but they didn’t die of the “vaccine”. What they died from what used to be called “immune enhancement” and now they call it “antibody-dependent enhancement” (ADE). In animal studies, after mRNA injections have been administered to cats, when the virus arrived once again into the body, it arrived like a Trojan Horse, undetected by the cats’ own immune system. The virus multiplied unchallenged and all animals involved in the experiment died from various causes.

Here’s what happens:

They make the RNA and you get the “vaccine” and you do fine. Now, you challenge the animal with the virus that you are supposed to be immunizing against.

So when they challenged those cats with SARS [a.k.a. SARS-CoV-1, is a coronavirus species], instead of killing the virus or weakening it, the immune response that they built into your system when out and codded the virus, so the virus came into the cat’s body like a Trojan Horse, unseen by the cat’s own immune system, and then it replicated without checking and killed the cat with overwhelming sepsis and cardiac failure. And that [also] happened in ferrets, that happened every time they tried this.



Let me just point out. We have never made it through an animal study successfully for this type of virus.
 Quoting: Graycee2493


Links to facts? Your cat story is bs.

It's true that no successful coronavirus vaccine had been developed prior to the currently available ones, but it's only fairly recently that they've even attempted to create one and little effort was made previously compared to now in the middle of a global pandemic.

Even so only a handful of the vaccines that they were working on harmed their subjects the rest were ineffective for other reasons. This is how science works, I can show you many examples of vaccines and other life saving medicine that failed at first.
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Do you think it's fair to question the long term effects of such a thing? What are you thoughts on mandates? And why do you keep signing in and posting from two different accounts?
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Ferrets and mice and Sars cov 2003 [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] possibly caused ade

If you search ferrets you'll find a few.

No mrna was approved before Sars cov 2, so look up those studies and reasons for non approval to date.

Redacted/conspiracy/comments/p8ov38/acceptable_reasons_for_va​ccine_hesitance_w_50/.compact

3. There is a potential for ADE, antibody dependent enhancement. This is when the virus mutates so that the antibodies no longer neutralize the virus but the antibodies still try to attach to it. This can actually help the virus get into your immune cells because when the virus is covered with antibodies it will draw macrophages to the virus that will try to eat it. However, when your macrophages come to eat the virus particle that they think has been neutralized, the virus gets inside them and starts replicating because the antibodies actually didn't neutralize the virus. Your own antibodies act like a kind of Trojan Horse. Another way that ADE can happen is your own antibodies connect to the receptors of your cells and actually help the virus get in directly. This was a huge problem with the Dengue vaccine and we need to do a lot of testing to make sure this isn't a possibility. Clearly with these rushed vaccines we haven't eliminated this possibility and with the virus mutating, ADE may pop up with a later variant. We must stay vigilant and keep an eye out for this signal. It will manifest as people with high antibody levels being more likely to get sick and die.

Antibody Dependent Enhancement:-

Journal article from 2005 shows evidence that sars-cov1 vaccine, that also focused on the spike protein, caused ADE when subjects were challenged with different strain: [link to www.nature.com (secure)]

Article explaining how ADE works in Sar-cov1: [link to www.nature.com (secure)]

Article explaining the potential for ADE in Covid19: [link to www.nature.com (secure)]

Another article that speculates on the potential for ADE in Covid19: [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

Article from 2021 explains that there is evidence that covid19 is able to kill macrophages by using antibody dependent mechanisms: [link to www.biorxiv.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Nayab65



Hey OP, tell your partner to that in thier pipe and smoke it.
clappa
 Quoting: Hiballdrinker222


He is honestly such a sweet heart...

He is reading all the articles now. We have never argued he just wants more information on the facts so these things are more reliable in his eyes...he never listens to youtube videos etc...

We are both unvaccinated I just want him to have stronger convictions. He is not vaccinating because I begged him not to, but I'm hoping if I show him WHY I feel the way I do, and he can read factual information from doctors and studies he will have his own convictions...

I really appreciate your help. We just want to be educated. We are not anti vax, but this "vaccine" is still in clinical trials and it is not "safe" and "effective" based on my personal research...

Our province in canada starting the 21st of september are removing the rights of all unvaccinated and introducing a vaccine passport...we wont be able to do anything that is not considered "essential". Since its going to actively be affecting our lives so much, I want him to be sure of his decision... not just do it to make me happy... I just want him to be safe.
 Quoting: Opheliac


Here is a good video I watched with my wife today.



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Re: Looking for study where all animals died from ADE after taking MRNA Vaccine
Ferrets and mice and Sars cov 2003 [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] possibly caused ade

If you search ferrets you'll find a few.

No mrna was approved before Sars cov 2, so look up those studies and reasons for non approval to date.

Redacted/conspiracy/comments/p8ov38/acceptable_reasons_for_va​ccine_hesitance_w_50/.compact

3. There is a potential for ADE, antibody dependent enhancement. This is when the virus mutates so that the antibodies no longer neutralize the virus but the antibodies still try to attach to it. This can actually help the virus get into your immune cells because when the virus is covered with antibodies it will draw macrophages to the virus that will try to eat it. However, when your macrophages come to eat the virus particle that they think has been neutralized, the virus gets inside them and starts replicating because the antibodies actually didn't neutralize the virus. Your own antibodies act like a kind of Trojan Horse. Another way that ADE can happen is your own antibodies connect to the receptors of your cells and actually help the virus get in directly. This was a huge problem with the Dengue vaccine and we need to do a lot of testing to make sure this isn't a possibility. Clearly with these rushed vaccines we haven't eliminated this possibility and with the virus mutating, ADE may pop up with a later variant. We must stay vigilant and keep an eye out for this signal. It will manifest as people with high antibody levels being more likely to get sick and die.

Antibody Dependent Enhancement:-

Journal article from 2005 shows evidence that sars-cov1 vaccine, that also focused on the spike protein, caused ADE when subjects were challenged with different strain: [link to www.nature.com (secure)]

Article explaining how ADE works in Sar-cov1: [link to www.nature.com (secure)]

Article explaining the potential for ADE in Covid19: [link to www.nature.com (secure)]

Another article that speculates on the potential for ADE in Covid19: [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

Article from 2021 explains that there is evidence that covid19 is able to kill macrophages by using antibody dependent mechanisms: [link to www.biorxiv.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Nayab65


Your example is for a different virus, completely different vaccine technology, and the mice in that study did not die as a result of the vaccine, they were killed so their organs could be studied.

ADE is a risk for all vaccines, there is no evidence that it's occuring with these ones.
 Quoting: Bullsh!t


So...in other words you got the vaccines and you're so terrified of ADE? LOL. Get lost, Shill.
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Does anyone have links to actual scientific studies/papers showing vaccines being ineffective?

Ive heard a lot about Israels results... any of those graphs/data things :o

um also does anyone have scientific type studies on the PCR tests showing they are often false?

sorry, just anything helps... I want him to start getting the big picture here...

I will take any official, actual information on covid/vaccines oh and treatment also like ivermectin studies etc.

Thanks so much for your time guys!
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Ferrets and mice and Sars cov 2003 [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] possibly caused ade

If you search ferrets you'll find a few.

No mrna was approved before Sars cov 2, so look up those studies and reasons for non approval to date.

Redacted/conspiracy/comments/p8ov38/acceptable_reasons_for_va​ccine_hesitance_w_50/.compact

3. There is a potential for ADE, antibody dependent enhancement. This is when the virus mutates so that the antibodies no longer neutralize the virus but the antibodies still try to attach to it. This can actually help the virus get into your immune cells because when the virus is covered with antibodies it will draw macrophages to the virus that will try to eat it. However, when your macrophages come to eat the virus particle that they think has been neutralized, the virus gets inside them and starts replicating because the antibodies actually didn't neutralize the virus. Your own antibodies act like a kind of Trojan Horse. Another way that ADE can happen is your own antibodies connect to the receptors of your cells and actually help the virus get in directly. This was a huge problem with the Dengue vaccine and we need to do a lot of testing to make sure this isn't a possibility. Clearly with these rushed vaccines we haven't eliminated this possibility and with the virus mutating, ADE may pop up with a later variant. We must stay vigilant and keep an eye out for this signal. It will manifest as people with high antibody levels being more likely to get sick and die.

Antibody Dependent Enhancement:-

Journal article from 2005 shows evidence that sars-cov1 vaccine, that also focused on the spike protein, caused ADE when subjects were challenged with different strain: [link to www.nature.com (secure)]

Article explaining how ADE works in Sar-cov1: [link to www.nature.com (secure)]

Article explaining the potential for ADE in Covid19: [link to www.nature.com (secure)]

Another article that speculates on the potential for ADE in Covid19: [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

Article from 2021 explains that there is evidence that covid19 is able to kill macrophages by using antibody dependent mechanisms: [link to www.biorxiv.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Nayab65



Hey OP, tell your partner to that in thier pipe and smoke it.
clappa
 Quoting: Hiballdrinker222


He is honestly such a sweet heart...

He is reading all the articles now. We have never argued he just wants more information on the facts so these things are more reliable in his eyes...he never listens to youtube videos etc...

We are both unvaccinated I just want him to have stronger convictions. He is not vaccinating because I begged him not to, but I'm hoping if I show him WHY I feel the way I do, and he can read factual information from doctors and studies he will have his own convictions...

I really appreciate your help. We just want to be educated. We are not anti vax, but this "vaccine" is still in clinical trials and it is not "safe" and "effective" based on my personal research...

Our province in canada starting the 21st of september are removing the rights of all unvaccinated and introducing a vaccine passport...we wont be able to do anything that is not considered "essential". Since its going to actively be affecting our lives so much, I want him to be sure of his decision... not just do it to make me happy... I just want him to be safe.
 Quoting: Opheliac


Here is a good video I watched with my wife today.



banana2banana2banana2banana25abanana2
 Quoting: Hiballdrinker222


thank you! We will watch it together :)





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