23,000 Year Old Human Footprints found in White Sands New Mexico

Long walk from Africa

Carbon dating is not accurate.

If people were in New Mexico 23,000 years ago, before the last ice age, then they were probably in North America 30,000 years ago.

I wonder why they were barefoot?
If I lived in the Pleistocene among all those huge animals I would want a good pair of running shoes!

They sure it wasn't 24,678 years ago?
Makes a BIG difference!

WHAT IDIOCY!

So Mexicans don’t really own Mexico

Dunning-Kruger opinion. The decay rate of isotopes is known and the test always gives a range-in this case 2000 year range, so it's not perfect, but it's better than your best guess.
The mega fauna and the people North or New Mexico and TX were cleared out by whatever happened 12,000 years ago, (asteroids or solar excursion) so we only find people in Southern desert these regions. Up North in Alaska and Canada there are settlements back to 24k years ago, S. Carolina 14k, so this is Not news except for the rigidly orthodox, most conservative scientists.

probably nancy pelosi and maxine waters walking around barefoot.

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OMG people have been around for a long time?!

gross

Those are the footprints of white people from western Europe that brought over cave man technology we call CLOVIS POINT.

It’s a specific kind of stone arrowhead that clearly came from western Europe - and that means WHITE PEOPLE.

Clovis from Siberia and Solutrean from Western Euro
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The first Americans were descended from Australian aborigines, according to evidence in a new BBC documentary.

Until now, native Americans were believed to have descended from Asian ancestors who arrived over a land bridge between Siberia and Alaska and then migrated across the whole of north and south America. The land bridge was formed 11,000 years ago during the ice age, when sea level dropped.

However, the new evidence shows that these people did not arrive in an empty wilderness. Stone tools and charcoal from the site in Brazil show evidence of human habitation as long ago as 50,000 years.

The skull dimensions and facial features match most closely the native people of Australia and Melanesia. These people date back to about 60,000 years, and were themselves descended from the first humans, who left Africa about 100,000 years ago.

But how could the early Australians have travelled more than 13,500 kilometres (8,450 miles) at that time? The answer comes from more cave paintings, this time from the Kimberley, a region at the northern tip of Western Australia.

A DNA Search for the First Americans Links Amazon Groups to Indigenous Australians
The new genetic analysis takes aim at the theory that just one founding group settled the Americas


The prevailing theory is that the first Americans arrived in a single wave, and all Native American populations today descend from this one group of adventurous founders. But now there’s a kink in that theory. The latest genetic analyses back up skeletal studies suggesting that some groups in the Amazon share a common ancestor with indigenous Australians and New Guineans. The find hints at the possibility that not one but two groups migrated across these continents to give rise to the first Americans.

“Our results suggest this working model that we had is not correct. There’s another early population that founded modern Native American populations,” says study coauthor David Reich, a geneticist at Harvard University.

Those are the footprints of white people from western Europe that brought over cave man technology we call CLOVIS POINT.

It’s a specific kind of stone arrowhead that clearly came from western Europe - and that means WHITE PEOPLE.

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All kinds of stuff. Kids playing, a giant sloth hiding, a mile and a half beeline path...

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Clovis is NOT from Siberia.
Clovis is from what is now Western Europe.

Read a book.

You are operating on the assumption the decay is constant; it aint.

if you can read maybe you can start by reading a bit of wiki then

Known as "Clovis First", the predominant hypothesis among archaeologists in the latter half of the 20th century had been that the people associated with the Clovis culture were the first inhabitants of the Americas. The primary support for this was that no solid evidence of pre-Clovis human habitation had been found. According to the standard accepted theory, the Clovis people crossed the Beringia land bridge over the Bering Strait from Siberia to Alaska during the period of lowered sea levels during the ice age, then made their way southward through an ice-free corridor east of the Rocky Mountains in present-day Western Canada as the glaciers retreated.

Archaeologists have taken a hard, long look at this idea and dismissed it on the basis of insufficient evidence. The mismatch between the archaeological record and the Solutrean hypothesis is so extensive that I can’t cover every problem, but here is a sample:

1. There’s a serious time gap between when the Solutreans could have crossed the Atlantic via the ice bridge (~20,000 YBP) and when Clovis tools begin to show up in the archaeological record (~13,000 YBP). This means that they would have made the points in exactly the same way for 7,000 years. Nowhere else in the Americas do we see technologies and cultures existing unchanging for that length of time.

2. There is no evidence of boat use, or tools used for making boats at Solutrean sites. Although the Ice Bridge documentary makes much of an image of a fish and an auk in a French cave, it is a bit of a stretch (to say the least!) to claim that this is sufficient to demonstrate a sophisticated seafaring culture, capable of crossing the Atlantic. The existence of a year-round “ice bridge” across the Atlantic during the Last Glacial Maximum is not supported by paleoclimate data. Instead, sea ice in the Atlantic would most likely have been seasonal, with a connection between North American and Europe only a few months out of the year.

3. The notion of overshot flaking technique as evidence of a link between Clovis and Solutrean has been challenged by many archaeologists, who think it far more plausible that the two cultures arrived at the same technology independently. As Strauss (2000) puts it, “One or two technical attributes are insufficient to establish a cultural link or long-distance interconnection.”

4. Radiocarbon dates of Clovis sites do not show a pattern one would expect if people diffused into North America from the east coast, as postulated by Stanford and Bradley.

Geneticists, too, have tested the Solutrean hypothesis. If it were true, we would expect to see ancestry from non-Siberian descended populations present in the genomes of ancient Native Americans. We don’t. All contemporary and ancient Native Americans, including the only known ancient individual buried in association with Clovis tools, show descent from an ancestral population with Siberian roots. There is a very clear pattern of evolutionary history recorded in ancient genomes from Siberia, Beringia, and North America, and no evidence for trans-Atlantic gene flow.

This is where the Ice Bridge documentary runs into great problems. It ignores all genomic evidence and instead relies upon an old idea that a particular mitochondrial haplogroup (a group of closely related maternal lineages) known as X shows a connection between North America and Europe. In the documentary, pediatrician/popular science writer Stephen Oppenheimer asserts that the presence of haplogroup X in an ancient North American population is a priori evidence for a European connection.

The documentary makes this case persuasively with graphics and maps showing the presence of this haplogroup in both Europe and North America. But look below the surface and the entire argument falls apart. First of all, Standford, Bradley, and Oppenheimer simply assume that Solutreans would have had X because it’s seen in contemporary European populations.

But in fact, the contemporary European gene pool was formed only within the last 8,000 years, and it’s unknown whether earlier peoples would have had haplogroup X in the same frequencies (or at all). No genomes from Solutren peoples have ever been sequenced, and you should always be cautious when a case is made for extending present day patterns of genetic variation into the past without direct confirmation from ancient DNA.

Today, lineages of haplogroup X are found widely dispersed throughout Europe, Asia, North Africa, and North America. We can reconstruct their evolutionary relationships – much like you can reconstruct a family tree – by looking at patterns of shared and derived mutations. Lineages found in the Americas, X2a and X2g, are not descended from the lineages (X2b, X2d, and X2c) found in Europe. Instead, they share a very ancient common ancestor from Eurasia, X2. (Here is a detailed discussion of the evolution of these haplogroups for anyone interested).

X2a is of a comparable age to other indigenous American haplogroups (A,B,C,D), which would not be true if it was derived from a separate migration from Europe. Finally, the oldest lineage of X2a found in the Americas was recovered from the Ancient One (also known as Kennewick Man), an ancient individual dating to ~9,000 years ago and from the West Coast (not the East Coast as would be predicted from the Solutrean hypothesis). His entire genome has been sequenced and shows that he has no ancestry from European sources. There is no conceivable scenario under which Kennewick Man could have inherited just his mitochondrial genome from Solutreans but the rest of his genome from Beringians. Thus, without additional evidence, there is nothing to justify the assumption that X2a must have evolved in Europe.

The Ice Bridge unfortunately relied on cherry-picking of data to support the ideas of Bradley and Stanford, and it’s not up to the standards of The Nature of Things. When I write about this issue, I frequently hear an argument along the lines of “Well, it could have happened, so maybe it did”. But science isn’t built on “could haves” and “maybes”. You must build your models based on evidence you have, not evidence you wish you had, and the Solutrean hypothesis is lacking sufficient evidence to be considered seriously.

1. Clovis points were made 20,000 years ago. Caucasians didn't exist in their modern form until 8,000 years ago when lightskin genes were brought to Europe from the Near East.

2. Scientists have debunked "clovis points" from having anything to do with Europeans, the entire solutrean hypothesis is widely ridiculed in scientific circles.

3. Even if there were Europeans here during that time, and there were NOT ANY, they wouldn't be YOUR ANCESTORS. YOUR ANCESTORS only came here from 1840 to 1920 or so in the vast majority. Before 1500 AD there were ZERO caucasians that were related to you over here.

if you can read maybe you can start by reading a bit of wiki then

Known as "Clovis First", the predominant hypothesis among archaeologists in the latter half of the 20th century had been that the people associated with the Clovis culture were the first inhabitants of the Americas. The primary support for this was that no solid evidence of pre-Clovis human habitation had been found. According to the standard accepted theory, the Clovis people crossed the Beringia land bridge over the Bering Strait from Siberia to Alaska during the period of lowered sea levels during the ice age, then made their way southward through an ice-free corridor east of the Rocky Mountains in present-day Western Canada as the glaciers retreated.

Point:
1. completely untrue.
2. completely untrue - the only word you leftists know when it comes to science is “debunked.” You’re idiots
3. research “Younger dryas.” We were here. The climate rapidly changed due to an asteroid impact near what is no Chicago where the ice was a mile thick. It literally wiped us out at the time. And the 1840s expansion was MANIFEST DESTINY - that was white people taking back land which was always ours.

Learn some shit before you open your worthless pie hole, idiot.