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MARK DICE: What They Don't Want You To Know - NEW 9-24-2021

 
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Yeah back in 16 I think it was Amazon went into people's Kindle and edited, ironically, 1984. They said the version on the Kindles wasn't true to the copyright and so had to have the edits.

Hard copy books only last 60 years. That is due to the paper, binding and ink used today. So, yes, having a hard-copy library is key, but it only guarantees that you personally will have the information in it for a generation or two.

After a great reset, within two generations, all of history could be destroyed and rewritten.
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Yeah back in 16 I think it was Amazon went into people's Kindle and edited, ironically, 1984. They said the version on the Kindles wasn't true to the copyright and so had to have the edits.

Hard copy books only last 60 years. That is due to the paper, binding and ink used today. So, yes, having a hard-copy library is key, but it only guarantees that you personally will have the information in it for a generation or two.

After a great reset, within two generations, all of history could be destroyed and rewritten.
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9teen Would vacuum packing in thick plastic keep them fresh for a few hundred years?
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:9teen: Would vacuum packing in thick plastic keep them fresh for a few hundred years?
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Good idea. That and temperature control.
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Here it is:

After it learned that it was selling George Orwell's novel 1984 to Kindle owners though it had no right to do so, Amazon deleted the novel and others from the devices of the people who had bought the works.
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Funny thing is this got a lot more coverage when it happened. A lot of that coverage, too, has been sent down the memory hole.
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Here it is:

After it learned that it was selling George Orwell's novel 1984 to Kindle owners though it had no right to do so, Amazon deleted the novel and others from the devices of the people who had bought the works.
 Quoting: NPR


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Funny thing is this got a lot more coverage when it happened. A lot of that coverage, too, has been sent down the memory hole.
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Unbelievable!
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It used to be you could readily find day-of coverage of 911.

What you might not know is there were so many conflicting accounts and stories. Many of the day-of reports tell of an array of suspicious happenings around the country on that day. They contained quotes from leaders who said things that contradicted what others said, or that vary from what became the official narrative.

In the first few years following 9/11, these news stories were readily available.

Now only a fraction of them remain.

Let me give a very specific example.

The USA Today gave a column of coverage to the National Reconnaissance Office running war games where a plane was remotely hijacked and flown into, I think, NRO headquarters. Either that or CIA headquarters.

The USA Today article went on to mention that there were at least five war games that day, a couple of which involved airplanes.

There it was in black and white. USA Today, of course, dismissed the implications, saying, of course, that it was merely a strange coincidence.

Now if you typed in "9/11 war games national reconnaissance office" into a search engine, that article was one of the first five or so to come up. For about maybe 8-10 years.

Now it seems it is gone entirely.
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And I've got one more story for you whipper snappers.

A lot of the time, more than you would believe, the newspaper would carry photos that don't make it online.

For whatever reason. Sometimes the photos couldn't be formatted for online. But other times, there were other reasons.

Don't judge, but I subscribed to the WSJ. Regularly they put images in their hard copy paper that don't go online. Sometimes, eh, no biggie.

But other times, wow.

I've got a nice little collection of oddities.

I'll give you one. It is of these Saudi Princes meeting in a palace office. They stand in a circle. One is in front of a desk. On the floor in the middle of the room is an Agency emblem. Now behind them appear to be these 7- or 8-ft-tall humanoids that are almost invisible; they are not quite shadows, not quite tricks of the light. You can almost see through them, but not quite. Some have barely discernible facial features. But they, as in several, are there and each is different from the rest and differs also in posture, expression, etc.

A debunker would say it is just a printer error, or a photo-development error, or something.

Anyway, that pic never made it into the online version; or maybe it was quickly discovered and taken down. Whatever the case, only those with the hard-copy version of the paper saw it. Of those people, what percentage actually noticed?
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Just another whiney a-hole who complains and does nothing about things. Mr. Dice ,we know what is going on. Go back in your hole.
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Yeah back in 16 I think it was Amazon went into people's Kindle and edited, ironically, 1984. They said the version on the Kindles wasn't true to the copyright and so had to have the edits.

Hard copy books only last 60 years. That is due to the paper, binding and ink used today. So, yes, having a hard-copy library is key, but it only guarantees that you personally will have the information in it for a generation or two.

After a great reset, within two generations, all of history could be destroyed and rewritten.
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I have plenty of books well over 100 years old. How are you supposing hard copy books only last 60 years?
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Yeah back in 16 I think it was Amazon went into people's Kindle and edited, ironically, 1984. They said the version on the Kindles wasn't true to the copyright and so had to have the edits.

Hard copy books only last 60 years. That is due to the paper, binding and ink used today.


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That is true for the acid based pine paper used nowadays, to intentionally hide the crimes of the robber barons of the 20th century.

However, traditional book binding on parchment or vellum can last thousands of years, so when the current history is gone.....the classic literature may remain!
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I have plenty of books well over 100 years old. How are you supposing hard copy books only last 60 years?
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Because of the paper, ink and binding of modern books, going back to books printed during or immediately prior to the 1990s. Supposedly, and this is what I read, they last 60 years, and that's it. Perhaps the ones kept out of light, humidity, in a low-oxygen container of sorts might survive longer.

Makes sense because if you get a mass market paperback printed in the 1980s that's been through a couple owners it is typically pretty worn and tired, coming apart on the spine, yellowing pages, etc., and is only 30 - 40 years old.

Yeah, you're right, there are still books around from centuries ago, made of leather binding, on paper basically made of cloth, etc. Better materials, ink, binding, etc., and owned by folks who keep them in hermetically sealed, environmentally controlled libraries.
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However, traditional book binding on parchment or vellum can last thousands of years, so when the current history is gone.....the classic literature may remain!
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But will be in the hands of who?
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I have plenty of books well over 100 years old. How are you supposing hard copy books only last 60 years?
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Because of the paper, ink and binding of modern books, going back to books printed during or immediately prior to the 1990s. Supposedly, and this is what I read, they last 60 years, and that's it. Perhaps the ones kept out of light, humidity, in a low-oxygen container of sorts might survive longer.

Makes sense because if you get a mass market paperback printed in the 1980s that's been through a couple owners it is typically pretty worn and tired, coming apart on the spine, yellowing pages, etc., and is only 30 - 40 years old.

Yeah, you're right, there are still books around from centuries ago, made of leather binding, on paper basically made of cloth, etc. Better materials, ink, binding, etc., and owned by folks who keep them in hermetically sealed, environmentally controlled libraries.
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Mainly the paper.


Modern paper is made of pine, it's acidic.

Engineered by the duponts to literally leave no trace of the crimes of the 20th century.
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However, traditional book binding on parchment or vellum can last thousands of years, so when the current history is gone.....the classic literature may remain!
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But will be in the hands of who?
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Whichever badass mad maxx living warlord sees fit to go and save it from the libraries!
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And I've got one more story for you whipper snappers.

A lot of the time, more than you would believe, the newspaper would carry photos that don't make it online.

For whatever reason. Sometimes the photos couldn't be formatted for online. But other times, there were other reasons.

Don't judge, but I subscribed to the WSJ. Regularly they put images in their hard copy paper that don't go online. Sometimes, eh, no biggie.

But other times, wow.

I've got a nice little collection of oddities.

I'll give you one. It is of these Saudi Princes meeting in a palace office. They stand in a circle. One is in front of a desk. On the floor in the middle of the room is an Agency emblem. Now behind them appear to be these 7- or 8-ft-tall humanoids that are almost invisible; they are not quite shadows, not quite tricks of the light. You can almost see through them, but not quite. Some have barely discernible facial features. But they, as in several, are there and each is different from the rest and differs also in posture, expression, etc.

A debunker would say it is just a printer error, or a photo-development error, or something.

Anyway, that pic never made it into the online version; or maybe it was quickly discovered and taken down. Whatever the case, only those with the hard-copy version of the paper saw it. Of those people, what percentage actually noticed?
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Can you scan the pic your referring to and post it here?

That'd be great!
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It used to be you could readily find day-of coverage of 911.

What you might not know is there were so many conflicting accounts and stories. Many of the day-of reports tell of an array of suspicious happenings around the country on that day. They contained quotes from leaders who said things that contradicted what others said, or that vary from what became the official narrative.

In the first few years following 9/11, these news stories were readily available.

Now only a fraction of them remain.

Let me give a very specific example.

The USA Today gave a column of coverage to the National Reconnaissance Office running war games where a plane was remotely hijacked and flown into, I think, NRO headquarters. Either that or CIA headquarters.

The USA Today article went on to mention that there were at least five war games that day, a couple of which involved airplanes.

There it was in black and white. USA Today, of course, dismissed the implications, saying, of course, that it was merely a strange coincidence.

Now if you typed in "9/11 war games national reconnaissance office" into a search engine, that article was one of the first five or so to come up. For about maybe 8-10 years.

Now it seems it is gone entirely.
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I remember.

-How about the firefighters saying they heard explosions, then the building started to come down and they continued to hear explosions.

-Witnesses saying the planes were grey with no windows?
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Here’s some Mark Dice clickbait that aged nicely.

Thread: Mark Dice: HOW TRUMP CAN WIN!

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A PDF version of the book will last.

Ever think of that? Hmm OP?

LOL
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Yeah back in 16 I think it was Amazon went into people's Kindle and edited, ironically, 1984. They said the version on the Kindles wasn't true to the copyright and so had to have the edits.

Hard copy books only last 60 years. That is due to the paper, binding and ink used today. So, yes, having a hard-copy library is key, but it only guarantees that you personally will have the information in it for a generation or two.

After a great reset, within two generations, all of history could be destroyed and rewritten.
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Um I'm looking at my bookcases and there are many volumes there that are a hundred years old. Plenty that are older than I am, at 60.

Actually the paper used in quality books is longer lasting than the old pulp books. They use acid free archival paper now, whereas the old stuff starts to oxidize and turn brown around the edges, it's actually a slow burn process.

Your books need to be in conditioned space. They're almost like a living thing. They like the same conditions we like. They need to be out in the open, on shelves, in your living space, living with you, not packed away in boxes where mold will get them if you let it.

Books don't disintegrate after 60 years, the ones on my shelf are plenty proof for me. And like I said, the paper now is better, not worse, unless you are just talking about mass market paperback novels, in which case, who cares.
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It used to be you could readily find day-of coverage of 911.

What you might not know is there were so many conflicting accounts and stories. Many of the day-of reports tell of an array of suspicious happenings around the country on that day. They contained quotes from leaders who said things that contradicted what others said, or that vary from what became the official narrative.

In the first few years following 9/11, these news stories were readily available.

Now only a fraction of them remain.

Let me give a very specific example.

The USA Today gave a column of coverage to the National Reconnaissance Office running war games where a plane was remotely hijacked and flown into, I think, NRO headquarters. Either that or CIA headquarters.

The USA Today article went on to mention that there were at least five war games that day, a couple of which involved airplanes.

There it was in black and white. USA Today, of course, dismissed the implications, saying, of course, that it was merely a strange coincidence.

Now if you typed in "9/11 war games national reconnaissance office" into a search engine, that article was one of the first five or so to come up. For about maybe 8-10 years.

Now it seems it is gone entirely.
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I still have 8 hours on VHS of 911 live from fox news
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Does OP get a cut of the YouTube money for posting this clickbait video with no synopsis?
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A PDF version of the book will last.

Ever think of that? Hmm OP?

LOL
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Even that isn't 100 percent true. I have noticed over the years (at work, specifically) that auto updates to windows, adobe, etc will sometimes cause files to become unopenable. Had it happen with pdf's, excel spreadsheets, word docs, etc.

Sometimes it'll just give an "error occurred" message, sometimes it is a "you don't have permission" message (even though I had opened that file on that exact computer previously).

Anything that is connected to the internet can have software changed automatically by the developers, which can render other files impossible to open, unless you have an older version of the software that isn't connected to the internet.

Seriously, my work comp came with windows 7 originally, and it was great be quse it worked with a lot of older programs I sometimes need to use. Then it started asking me to upgrade to 10 every day, which I continually said no to. Then one day it did the upgrade automatically when I turned it on.

I lost a bunch of functionality, some programs would no longer work, files wouldn't open, etc.

I also keep an XP machine at work but won't connect it to the web for fear it will wipe the OS or something stupid.
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THey used to have wars to thin the population. To expensive and damage to infrastructure. This is cheaper.
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And I've got one more story for you whipper snappers.

A lot of the time, more than you would believe, the newspaper would carry photos that don't make it online.

For whatever reason. Sometimes the photos couldn't be formatted for online. But other times, there were other reasons.

Don't judge, but I subscribed to the WSJ. Regularly they put images in their hard copy paper that don't go online. Sometimes, eh, no biggie.

But other times, wow.

I've got a nice little collection of oddities.

I'll give you one. It is of these Saudi Princes meeting in a palace office. They stand in a circle. One is in front of a desk. On the floor in the middle of the room is an Agency emblem. Now behind them appear to be these 7- or 8-ft-tall humanoids that are almost invisible; they are not quite shadows, not quite tricks of the light. You can almost see through them, but not quite. Some have barely discernible facial features. But they, as in several, are there and each is different from the rest and differs also in posture, expression, etc.

A debunker would say it is just a printer error, or a photo-development error, or something.

Anyway, that pic never made it into the online version; or maybe it was quickly discovered and taken down. Whatever the case, only those with the hard-copy version of the paper saw it. Of those people, what percentage actually noticed?
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Can you scan the pic your referring to and post it here?

That'd be great!
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My Saudi Prince invisible handlers pic I have not scanned in. Let me go find it and see if I have the edition info.

However, I do have a scanned primo dope shapeshifting Justice Gorsuch with his vril-drone wife pic right here on a thumb drive.

Hit me back here and we'll go to disposable email and I'll send it.
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Um I'm looking at my bookcases and there are many volumes there that are a hundred years old. Plenty that are older than I am, at 60.

 Quoting: Vision Thing


Two doors down there is a library with books that date back to the Civil war.

Statistically speaking those, those books are a rarity and are found in private libraries.

There are newspapers from the Civil War still around, technically speaking. They exist. But they are super rare.

The life span for a book printed circa the late-80s through today is roughly 60 years. That would be the statistical average.

Sure, you're right. You could buy a nice hardback book, put it in your library, turn off the light, close the door, and come back in a century, and it would probably be ok presuming bugs didn't get to it. Those books in that type of environment are not statistically average.

The average person lives to be how old now, 78? 72? So I can say that people today generally live to be less than 80, and sure, you could split hairs. There's a dude in Japan that's 120. I get it.

Statistically, the average projected life for a book printed today is 60 years. Period. Hard stop.

So if they great resetted us tomorrow, and their chipped slaves went fully digital, and the printing presses issued forth no more books, we are roughly 2 generations away from our history being completely destroyed. As dude said, the DuPontes did it by switching printing paper over to bleached pine.
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It used to be you could readily find day-of coverage of 911.

What you might not know is there were so many conflicting accounts and stories. Many of the day-of reports tell of an array of suspicious happenings around the country on that day. They contained quotes from leaders who said things that contradicted what others said, or that vary from what became the official narrative.

In the first few years following 9/11, these news stories were readily available.

Now only a fraction of them remain.

Let me give a very specific example.

The USA Today gave a column of coverage to the National Reconnaissance Office running war games where a plane was remotely hijacked and flown into, I think, NRO headquarters. Either that or CIA headquarters.

The USA Today article went on to mention that there were at least five war games that day, a couple of which involved airplanes.

There it was in black and white. USA Today, of course, dismissed the implications, saying, of course, that it was merely a strange coincidence.

Now if you typed in "9/11 war games national reconnaissance office" into a search engine, that article was one of the first five or so to come up. For about maybe 8-10 years.

Now it seems it is gone entirely.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80273863


it was called operation viligant guardian if i remember correctly...

My 911 encyclopedia brain has cramps sometimes...

But, 100%, there were war games on that day...

HENCE the fighter jets remaining grounded...

Or the ones that were sent out went out over the atlantic ocean and out to the mid west...

ABSOLUTELY FUCKING INSANE!!!


YOU CANNOT WRITE THIS SHIT!!!
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It used to be you could readily find day-of coverage of 911.

What you might not know is there were so many conflicting accounts and stories. Many of the day-of reports tell of an array of suspicious happenings around the country on that day. They contained quotes from leaders who said things that contradicted what others said, or that vary from what became the official narrative.

In the first few years following 9/11, these news stories were readily available.

Now only a fraction of them remain.

Let me give a very specific example.

The USA Today gave a column of coverage to the National Reconnaissance Office running war games where a plane was remotely hijacked and flown into, I think, NRO headquarters. Either that or CIA headquarters.

The USA Today article went on to mention that there were at least five war games that day, a couple of which involved airplanes.

There it was in black and white. USA Today, of course, dismissed the implications, saying, of course, that it was merely a strange coincidence.

Now if you typed in "9/11 war games national reconnaissance office" into a search engine, that article was one of the first five or so to come up. For about maybe 8-10 years.

Now it seems it is gone entirely.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80273863


it was called operation viligant guardian if i remember correctly...

My 911 encyclopedia brain has cramps sometimes...

But, 100%, there were war games on that day...

HENCE the fighter jets remaining grounded...

Or the ones that were sent out went out over the atlantic ocean and out to the mid west...

ABSOLUTELY FUCKING INSANE!!!


YOU CANNOT WRITE THIS SHIT!!!
 Quoting: Cannabis Highs People!


You're right.
There were something like two dozen war games that day.
All of them were hijacked plane scenarios.
Many targeted the exact buildings that were hit that day.
And the USA Today sorta, maybe halfway, covered it.
At the time that was one of the biggest papers in the land.
And that headline was on the net readily available for, oh, a decade.
Now it is gone. Down the rabbit hole.
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If I recall, the British MI5 was running a drill or test (the day the bombs went off on the buses and subway) if terrorists planted explosives on the tube and buses......

Hmmmmmmmm there are no coincidences in life.

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