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Biden’s “Build Back Better" Vape tax. Safer nicotine product tax.

 
Doom-browser

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Pipe ‘backy all day.
 Quoting: REaliZe


Bingo

$1.20 per pack and no chems in it
 Quoting: Mithradates


youre both doing it wrong. get whole leaf and buy a tobacco shredder. i only smoke organic and costs me less than $3 per carton
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Uncle Gintel

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09/24/2021 05:49 PM

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On a side note, does anyone else feel so much better after switching. I never get coughs anymore.


My smell is so good now. I can smell cig smoke on someone's cloths from about 15ft away.
 Quoting: Uncle Gintel


Wow, we agree on something! I believed and knew it would happen one day.

lol.


Yes, my lung capacity has made a full comeback since I switched five years ago. I can't smoke a cigarette anymore, I tried a couple times recently and couldn't get past the first two drags.

I can smell them from a mile away now as well.

And this tax IS bad news, some of us go through those bottles a little faster than you bud!
 Quoting: GoliadFlag


Same, it's been a godsend. I tried the patches and the gum and had just figured I was fucked.


I know it's best to do nothing, but it still saved me. My lungs as like they were in my 20s now.
Uncle Gintel

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09/24/2021 05:53 PM

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I used to work for GreenSmoke and started up ECCR Electronic Cigarette Consumer Reviews back in 2012 to 2017 before I sold it to my CEO. Anyone here remember Paul from ECCR?? That's me.

That's why my name is Mr_Electric lol. Electronic Cigarettes. It was my nickname at GreenSmoke, given to me by the affiliates. I was the affiliate marketing director there.

I vaped for 10 years. I live in Australia and when they banned the import of nicotine e-juice, I went to 0mg and finally quit 3 months ago.

I'm so happy to be free of the vape that I would carry around everywhere and puff on all day long. It was a burden and a waste of money.

If I can get off it after smoking for 20 years and vaping for 10... anyone can do it.

But yeah, they've been trying to tax vapes for years. Altria, the company that owns Marlborough bought GreenSmoke years ago for 130 million.

They'll eventually get their tax, unfortunately.
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Wow that's cool.
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09/24/2021 06:05 PM
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Vaping actually helps people quit smoking. Can't have that.
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Pukeko

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I truly shake my head at posts like this.

I don't use PG but it's readily available and cheap.

I do use VG and it's readily available and cheap.

Flavor West has any flavor you've ever dreamed of.

There are a myriad of sources where you can buy Nic juice.

I've been mixing my own juice for 5 years. Even though I am a chemist, it doesn't require a chemistry degree to do this.

Get a cheap scale from HF and you're good to go.

I can't believe anyone actually buys juice anymore when it's so easy and cheap to make it.
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Help us

Start a thread

I have looked at the nicotine juice but it gets complicated and I am busy

I quit smoking 15 years ago but started vaping a few months ago

I want the nicotine. Its a nootropic.
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09/24/2021 06:35 PM
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This really chaps my ass. One of the reasons I went to vaping was to save mon... oh wait.

Those sneaky fuggin lobbying assholes
 Quoting: Five Forty Four A.M.


They stopped having my flavor, then the credit card machine was out. Then they stopped giving flavors altogether.

I figured out right then they the government was going to use this product to twist me in the wind, at will.

So I quit for spite.
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09/24/2021 06:37 PM
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You mean Beld bick butter.
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09/24/2021 06:38 PM
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Lame tax but still 1000x times cheaper than cigs.


A $20 bottle lasts me like 2-3 weeks.
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Hahaha you vape! It’s all makes sense now. What a homophone
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09/24/2021 06:39 PM
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Uncle gintel vapes. Someone start a thread about that….douchenozzle
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I can just see him walking down the gayborhood with his “im vaxxed let’s bang” T-shirt puffing some tutti fruity vape juice.
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Obama also did these massive increases. He must still be in charge.
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I think that’s an exaggeration as there is not that high of a tax on regular nicotine products. So maybe calm down, take a puff and use critical thinking skills
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09/24/2021 07:10 PM
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I just went to the vape store and was told if this new bill passes, I would have had to pay 40.00$ on top of a 50.00$ order.


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Stop this madness, please contact your reps.
 Quoting: GoliadFlag


Yeah, quick. Before you die of emphysema or cancer from being addicted to that shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80880728


And don't blow that toxic chemical smoke on me, either.
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09/24/2021 07:27 PM
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I saw this coming long ago.

I have 2 gallons of 100 mg/mL nic. I'll be mixing juice for the rest of my life with these bad boys.

Have fun paying your taxes, bitches.
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I saw this coming long ago.

I have 2 gallons of 100 mg/mL nic. I'll be mixing juice for the rest of my life with these bad boys.

Have fun paying your taxes, bitches.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79751367


They have a secondary purpose.

Guess what happens if you inject a mL.

Yup.
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Vapers will keep vaping and their children will eat less. It’s like when the city wanted to raise rates for water: I stopped showering for city council meetings.
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Vapers will keep vaping and their children will eat less. It’s like when the city wanted to raise rates for water: I stopped showering for city council meetings.
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This really chaps my ass. One of the reasons I went to vaping was to save mon... oh wait.

Those sneaky fuggin lobbying assholes
 Quoting: Five Forty Four A.M.


Don't worry it gets Much worse. As of April 2022 no more Flovored Vape juices will be legally sold. Between Trump and Now Bidens "people"
the Vape industry is Murdered.
Big tobacco is still ALIVE and dumping cash to lobbiest to Murder ALL Competition
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09/24/2021 08:18 PM
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Quick and dirty guide to making your own eliquid:

[link to wizardlabs.us (secure)]

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[link to wizardlabs.us (secure)]

[link to e-liquid-recipes.com (secure)]

This is the vendor I've used but you can find other vendors by searching online. There are several forums dedicated to making your own liquid and there will be plenty of recommendations.

The 100mg/ml nicotine solution is a high concentrate but I find it easiest to calculate provided you have bottles in 10ml increments. Buy a few 1, 5 and 10 ml syringes also a blunted tip like a needle without a point is helpful. Figure if you have a 100ml bottle, every ml of the nicotine solution you add will add 1mg to your solution. Adjust accordingly.

You can use 24% nicotine solution if you are uncomfortable with the high concentration. In the above scenario, would need 4mls to roughly equal a 1mg concentration.

Rule of thumb for flavor is 10-20% so add 10-20ml to your 100ml bottle. Start at 10ml, you can always add more. It's easiest to use 1 flavor but you can mix and match as you gain confidence.

Finish your bottle with PG, VG or both depending on your preference. PG is thinner, less cloud and more flavor. VG is thick with much more cloud but muted flavor.

As previously stated, liquid nicotine can be absorbed through skin so wear protective equipment or wash away any that gets on your skin right away, especially using 100mg/ml. I make it in my kitchen so is easy enough to wash if needed.

Also, do not use flavored oil available for candy making. I read a while back about someone who vaped using flavored oil. Seems the lungs can't exchange gasses through oil and they guy died. Not sure if that really happened but I would hate to think I didn't warn someone!

I put my just made bottles in hot water until they blend easy and that's about all I do. That should be good to get you started, I think. I'll check back to see if I missed anything in the explanation.
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Vaping ended a forty year pack a day cigarette habit.

Jam Monster, blueberry jam on buttered toast is my favorite. Now I can't get my coils.

So I'm chewing tobacco now. Can't stand the cigarettes anymore. I use regular chew like snus. Just a small pinch and no need to spit. Goes good with coffee too.
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bump for future reference
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God dammit
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If we would legalize and tax opiates we could pay the national debt and build a futuristic America in ten years





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