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When Christ returns,he will come from heaven or the sky.
People who read the Bible need to be very careful.I read the Bible and follow it.We definitely need to be sure and watch for him to return and in the Bible it says how he will come.I have read this myself in the Bible and have seen it other places but I am only going to post 1 link for now.I know there are going to be those that read and study the Bible who are going to refute this,and that is fine.That is your belief.But I for one want to be sure that I am looking in the right place and not being decieved and that is what the Bible is all about to lead us in the right direction.


Is Satan Using UFOs To Deceive Mankind?

One of the core principles upon which this work was founded is based on the biblical edict to prove the concepts it represents as stated in 1 Thessalonians 5:21, "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." The most important of those concepts is that we believe the Bible shows overwhelming evidence that the Elohiym, God, and the Malak, angels that serve the Elohiym, travel in UFO-like vehicles. We also argue against the concept that these vehicles are satanic in origin, as the Bible only contains only the most vague of non-specific references that this may be possible. Many theorists claiming the UFOs in our skies are an illusionary or holographic reproduction of UFOs to deceive mankind into turning from the worship of God to the worship of a false alien race.


This being the most prominent theory of mainstream Bible-based religion concerning UFOs, and in light of new evidence found in the process of researching the biblical books removed from the original Bible, we will use this section to address this very controversial theory.

The King James Bible
The Great Deception

Neither the phrase "great deception", nor the word "deception", actually appear in the scriptures, but the concept is clearly presented.

The first mention by Jesus of a possible deception is found in Matthew's account of his ministry:
Matthew 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? 4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Jesus clearly indicates that those who will be saying he is the Christ, a direct reference to those who proclaim his existence, will deceive people. Many claim this is referring to false Christs but even if this is correct the inference is clearly religious, either legitimately, or by falsely using his name. This admonition is repeated here:
Mark 13: 4 Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign when all these things shall be fulfilled? 5 And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any man deceive you:

He addresses the issue further during the same conversation:
Matthew 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
The words "false prophets" are from the word pseudoprophetes, pronounced psyoo-dop-rof-ay'-tace; a spurious prophet, i.e. pretended foreteller or religious impostor. Again it is stated that the deception will be of a religious nature.

He further warns about people within the religious community trying to deceive others into believing Jesus is in a certain place:
Matthew 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Here we find one of the most often quoted verses used to connect Satan to UFOs, by saying the "great signs and wonders" are the UFOs we now see in our skies.

Rather than saying a deception will be seen in the sky Jesus says that mankind should look for his personal coming in the sky:
Matthew 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Matthew 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
This narration shows that not only will Christ appear in the sky but that his angels will be travelling in the Earth's sky gathering the elect from the planet. Exclusion of the possibility that Satan would try to deceive mankind with strange vehicles would certainly cause doubt that this sort of deception would occur. For Jesus to declare that he would appear in the sky and that his angels would be flying would mean that we are left in a bizarre state of confusion, if in fact Satan would also appear there. It would seem unusual that the God of perfect order would allow such a confusion to take place and is clearly discounted in scripture:
1 Corinthians 4:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
Psalms 71:1 In thee, O LORD, do I put my trust: let me never be put to confusion.

Jesus tells his followers to keep a steady vigil for his coming:
Matthew 24:32 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
Matthew 25:13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
Mark 13:33 Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.
Mark 13:37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.
Luke 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
1 Thessalonians 5:6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.

There is certainly no confusion about where those watching for Jesus to return should focus their attention:
Acts 1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. 10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; 11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
Daniel 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
Matthew 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Matthew 26:64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
Mark 13:26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. 27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.
Mark 14:62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
Luke 21:27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
These verses leave no doubt that "The Second Coming" will be seen in the sky and Jesus commands his followers to watch for him coming in the sky.

[link to www.bibleufo.com]
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Re: When Christ returns,he will come from heaven or the sky.
Christ is never coming back. He never existed. Sorry.
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Re: When Christ returns,he will come from heaven or the sky.
Technically the early scriptures said Jesus will return in the clouds. Before the council of Nicea removed reincarnation and aliens from the holy books. The quote actually referred to cloudships. Which are gigantic pleaidaian motherships , after Jesus was half pleaidian.

Oh btw his name is Esu Immanuel as the angel Gabriel declared he will be called Immaneul which translates to God in us often confused with God with us. Anyway thats another story until its self.
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Re: When Christ returns,he will come from heaven or the sky.
Christ is never coming back. He never existed. Sorry.
 Quoting: Billy Joel

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Re: When Christ returns,he will come from heaven or the sky.
Christ is never coming back. He never existed. Sorry.
 Quoting: Billy Joel



Gee....I wonder why the DARK SIDE hates him so much then.
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Re: When Christ returns,he will come from heaven or the sky.
Christ is never coming back. He never existed. Sorry.



Gee....I wonder why the DARK SIDE hates him so much then.
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they're just playa hatin'
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middle-eastern monotheistic death cult BUUUUULLLLSHIT
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Gee....I wonder why the DARK SIDE hates him so much then.
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It's not hatred..it's understanding
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Re: When Christ returns,he will come from heaven or the sky.
Christ is never coming back. He never existed. Sorry.



Gee....I wonder why the DARK SIDE hates him so much then.
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Because they're as deceived as the Christians.
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Re: When Christ returns,he will come from heaven or the sky.
"And then cometh the messiah riding a white cloud"

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Not coming back? Well why cant a 2000 year old demi-god come back, i mean leprachauns, unicorns, and the tooth fairy all made come backs. Kids to this day believe santa will come each year...and they cry if you tell them the truth.
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Re: When Christ returns,he will come from heaven or the sky.
Technically the early scriptures said Jesus will return in the clouds. Before the council of Nicea removed reincarnation and aliens from the holy books. The quote actually referred to cloudships. Which are gigantic pleaidaian motherships , after Jesus was half pleaidian.

Oh btw his name is Esu Immanuel as the angel Gabriel declared he will be called Immaneul which translates to God in us often confused with God with us. Anyway thats another story until its self.
 Quoting: James R. 346405



Very nice post.I put Christ because I figured more people would understand that.I also have read clouds but whichever way you want to read it,it is from above is all I know lol
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Re: When Christ returns,he will come from heaven or the sky.
Technically the early scriptures said Jesus will return in the clouds. Before the council of Nicea removed reincarnation and aliens from the holy books. The quote actually referred to cloudships. Which are gigantic pleaidaian motherships , after Jesus was half pleaidian.

Oh btw his name is Esu Immanuel as the angel Gabriel declared he will be called Immaneul which translates to God in us often confused with God with us. Anyway thats another story until its self.



Very nice post.I put Christ because I figured more people would understand that.I also have read clouds but whichever way you want to read it,it is from above is all I know lol
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of course it is from above - from the crown chakra itself -
the bhong cloud is just a little helper for opening the crown chakra channel
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Christ is never coming back. He never existed. Sorry.
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Love your work Billy!

Music's not bad too.
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Re: When Christ returns,he will come from heaven or the sky.
People who read the Bible need to be very careful.I read the Bible and follow it.We definitely need to be sure and watch for him to return and in the Bible it says how he will come.I have read this myself in the Bible and have seen it other places but I am only going to post 1 link for now.I know there are going to be those that read and study the Bible who are going to refute this,and that is fine.That is your belief.But I for one want to be sure that I am looking in the right place and not being decieved and that is what the Bible is all about to lead us in the right direction.


Is Satan Using UFOs To Deceive Mankind?

One of the core principles upon which this work was founded is based on the biblical edict to prove the concepts it represents as stated in 1 Thessalonians 5:21, "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." The most important of those concepts is that we believe the Bible shows overwhelming evidence that the Elohiym, God, and the Malak, angels that serve the Elohiym, travel in UFO-like vehicles. We also argue against the concept that these vehicles are satanic in origin, as the Bible only contains only the most vague of non-specific references that this may be possible. Many theorists claiming the UFOs in our skies are an illusionary or holographic reproduction of UFOs to deceive mankind into turning from the worship of God to the worship of a false alien race.


This being the most prominent theory of mainstream Bible-based religion concerning UFOs, and in light of new evidence found in the process of researching the biblical books removed from the original Bible, we will use this section to address this very controversial theory.

The King James Bible
The Great Deception

Neither the phrase "great deception", nor the word "deception", actually appear in the scriptures, but the concept is clearly presented.

The first mention by Jesus of a possible deception is found in Matthew's account of his ministry:
Matthew 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? 4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Jesus clearly indicates that those who will be saying he is the Christ, a direct reference to those who proclaim his existence, will deceive people. Many claim this is referring to false Christs but even if this is correct the inference is clearly religious, either legitimately, or by falsely using his name. This admonition is repeated here:
Mark 13: 4 Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign when all these things shall be fulfilled? 5 And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any man deceive you:

He addresses the issue further during the same conversation:
Matthew 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
The words "false prophets" are from the word pseudoprophetes, pronounced psyoo-dop-rof-ay'-tace; a spurious prophet, i.e. pretended foreteller or religious impostor. Again it is stated that the deception will be of a religious nature.

He further warns about people within the religious community trying to deceive others into believing Jesus is in a certain place:
Matthew 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Here we find one of the most often quoted verses used to connect Satan to UFOs, by saying the "great signs and wonders" are the UFOs we now see in our skies.

Rather than saying a deception will be seen in the sky Jesus says that mankind should look for his personal coming in the sky:
Matthew 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Matthew 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
This narration shows that not only will Christ appear in the sky but that his angels will be travelling in the Earth's sky gathering the elect from the planet. Exclusion of the possibility that Satan would try to deceive mankind with strange vehicles would certainly cause doubt that this sort of deception would occur. For Jesus to declare that he would appear in the sky and that his angels would be flying would mean that we are left in a bizarre state of confusion, if in fact Satan would also appear there. It would seem unusual that the God of perfect order would allow such a confusion to take place and is clearly discounted in scripture:
1 Corinthians 4:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
Psalms 71:1 In thee, O LORD, do I put my trust: let me never be put to confusion.

Jesus tells his followers to keep a steady vigil for his coming:
Matthew 24:32 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
Matthew 25:13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
Mark 13:33 Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.
Mark 13:37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.
Luke 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
1 Thessalonians 5:6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.

There is certainly no confusion about where those watching for Jesus to return should focus their attention:
Acts 1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. 10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; 11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
Daniel 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
Matthew 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Matthew 26:64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
Mark 13:26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. 27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.
Mark 14:62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
Luke 21:27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
These verses leave no doubt that "The Second Coming" will be seen in the sky and Jesus commands his followers to watch for him coming in the sky.

[link to www.bibleufo.com]
 Quoting: babydust2004



Is satan using the bible to decieve mankind?

If anything appears in the skys,, its a hologram


take your bible fucking bullshit outta here
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There are few real Christians on this web site friend, and even few'er. that study like you do.

Clearly JESUS is coming back real soon, and there will be no mistaken HIM and his Army of Angels !

That was for the OP...



But now, it is my turn to get mocked, so as you were vipers..
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Re: When Christ returns,he will come from heaven or the sky.
There are few real Christians on this web site friend, and even few'er. that study like you do.

Clearly JESUS is coming back real soon, and there will be no mistaken HIM and his Army of Angels !

That was for the OP...



But now, it is my turn to get mocked, so as you were vipers..
 Quoting: Gideon 302390


Thanks for the post Gideon.It's all good.I just felt I needed to post that for anyone who does read the Bible to search for themselves where to look for his return.I am personally a Spiritual Deist and not follow any paticular religion but I have studied too many peoples near-death experiences that describe a person they believe to be Christ or a Christ figure to not believe he is real.I don't mind if I get flamed if it helps even 1 person to search the Bible for themselves.





GLP