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How about just top floors of tall buildings?

Would that work? Would the water knock them down?

in NYC theres plenty in case you cant get out in time.
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Let’s not forget Maine…

I’m on the coast. 10 miles from the sea, but 1 mile from a river that meets the sea.

I don’t have much advice except to get off the coastal Route 1, and head inland
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If a mega tsunami were actually to occur and you're within 100 miles of any major population center - lol

Might as well grab a surf board, strap on a GoPro and catch the wave.

Or high-jack an ocean worthy boat and head out to the deep ocean beyond the Continental shelf. This would be your best chance to live.


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In the interest of preparedness concerning the cities along the East coast should a Megatsunami actually occur from a LaPalma landslide, where would be some the best places to go to get to high ground in a timely manner.
Here's a compilation of member comments taken from the main Cumbre Vieja volcano thread. I sorted member comments and organized by coastal state information regarding preferential routes, high ground places to go and tips for traveling routes. All coastal states listed. If blank, there were no comments provided for that area.

Hopefully, this list will never be needed.

AL:
In Alabama, considering the coastal areas which lie at a range of around 10-30 feet above sea level and Mobile Bay and delta areas, which are pretty low lying land areas, I’d say if it were possible, try to get to Mt. Cheaha area. It’s about 4-5 hours north of the Gulf Coast area and is around 1200-1500 feet above sea level.
You may not have to drive that far, to get to higher ground, but you’d need to take into consideration all of the rivers in your area and try to get away from those.

If anyone else from Alabama can chime in and give a closer point to get to than Cheaha, that would be great!
I agree with you, it depends on personal tolerance for risk. Dothan has the nuclear power plant, why I didn't include it. Birmingham is plenty safe.

By even the scariest estimates, Mt. Cheaha should be fine. Personally, I think Dothan, or even Atmore, would be far enough inland. I would be heading for Birmingham, elevation about 650 feet.

Pine Mountain near Columbus Ga is 1395 feet. The area is around 922 feet. Or go up 441 to the Appalachians.

Head North and West, maybe to the NW part of the state. Get away from the Mississippi River and the smaller rivers on the Northshore. No one knows how this would affect the Mississippi River, but I have a bad feeling about that.

CT:

DE:
Drive to Lancaster PA or on to Harrisburg if in DE
Those in Lower Slower Delaware will have to drive up the peninsula first.

FL:
NW out of the State. Can cut across the State to the W. Coast very easily and take backroads heading North once gridlock happens. You COULD take 95-N, but it follows the entire Eastern coastline. What if gridlock occurs before you can exit and head West? That’s why my immediate course of action will be to head West first. You need to evacuate the State and assess from somewhere that you KNOW will be safe, like Eastern TN or Western NC. You need to be ready for now panicking aggressive drivers and chaos once it all goes mainstream. 20 million people in this State. Early response and speed of reaction to the Event will save your life. Make sure you are armed, but don’t be paranoid, don’t cause any trouble or start any problems- just stay “switched on” and be on guard. Keep your personal space safe. People turn into animals when they are subject to fear or chaos, oftentimes resorting to violence for any number of reasons. Look to pre-landfall Hurricane behavior for an example…fighting in stores, robberies, thefts, driving recklessly, etc. This is the one time in my life where I will advocate speeding, but not beyond your capabilities to react suddenly. All eyes in the vehicle need to be either on the Road watching for hazards, clearing lanes for you to pass or using a mobile device to run reconnaissance on traffic ahead as well as plotting course while the GPS still works. 

FL panhandle, I’m headed 98 west to 77 north to 20 west to 331 north to Montgomery then I 65 north to safety. Probably if I can cross the bridges headed to families in Indiana. I’m 3.3 above sea and 1/2 a mile from the beach. I don’t know if this helps. But definitely my plan

80, 60, 27, 441, 98, 301 Fairly good roads, but not interstate. (Even numbered road, East/West. Odd: N/S)

West coast FL here:
Have a few different ideas in mind...mostly focusing on an evening escape route because I'd be screwed if anything happens during daylight hours.

Was thinking to zigzag backroads up towards Tallahassee, then cut straight N into GA until I hit some hills. Have friends in TN, and family in OH should it get to that point. Car is already packed & ready, just need to jump in & go.

If we have a min. 6 hr. window, max 9 hr., it gives slightly enough leeway to get somewhat north before it hits E FL, and either goes through everything or swings up around into the Gulf, before hitting the far W side of FL.

If it's too short notice the closest I'd get would be to aim NE towards Gainesville, there are a few but not many spots above 100' to hope for at best.

Been studying this topography app along with matching up roads & drive times to see where to zigzag. Stay safe y'all!

GA:

I live in SE GA close to the FL border. My plan is to head NW to Waycross, then toward Macon of needed.

LA/MS:

Head North and West, maybe to the NW part of the state. Get away from the Mississippi River and the smaller rivers on the Northshore. No one knows how this would affect the Mississippi River, but I have a bad feeling about that.

Evacuating south Louisiana has historically proven to be a very difficult task due to stubborn citizens and slow-moving government officials.
Lake Pontchartrain gets surges from hurricane waters, and would most likely be affected by tsunami waters as well.

Jackson, MS, should be safe.

MD:
If on the Chesapeake region in Maryland you need to high tail north west to at least Fredrick, MD.

For Wash, DC - see below

NC:
BEFORE official EBS alerts go off need to hightail it inland via major traffic corridors before they become parking lots. Goal is to get west of I-95.
hurricane evac plans of reversing all major traffic corridors (like I-40, 795 64/264).
Both Carolinas are problematic due to low country, so many waterways emptying out into ocean. Depending on size of wave and amount of water being pushed, NC's OBX will be like front tackle line but then energy of water moves across the big Albemarle Sound and pushes up all rivers, creeks, etc.

Folks inland living on/near waterways need to factor in rising water and the backwash of debris once water reverses proper course to empty back down east.

NH:

NJ:
just take one of the many roads West toward PA.(195-95-PA turnpike route). Aside from NW Jersey where there are mountains, there's really no other option but to haul ass into PA.

In NJ, the safe counties would be Morris and Sussex in the northwest corner. (30 miles west off the GWB)
If you go into PA, stay away from the Delaware River because the water will come up it.
Keep an eye on traffic patterns. If I get the sense that the general population is starting to flee, I'll stop short of approaching the Delaware because getting stuck in a bottleneck (The Delaware Water Gap) there would be very bad.

Note: poster is on this thread if you wish to question this advice further;
NJ here. Bad advice if you are at least 20 miles inland. Stay home with maximum preps, don't end up a refugee in a FEMA camp.

The tsunami size is being greatly exaggerated. Maximum 80 feet but probably 40 is accurate. Penetration 4 to 6 miles, 10 at worst. Most fringe scenario 20 miles.

If you are 20 miles in, the greatest danger is hordes of displaced people. Do not be one of them.

95 Bridge to PA crosses below Trenton. Bad bad move. The Deleware is tidal all the way to Trenton marsh. Floods occur on the PA side usually, NJ is a high bluff mostly. You do not want to be on the roads in PA near there.

If you are really freaking out in S Jersey, look up Arneys Mt. It's really a hill, but over 200 feet.

NY:
There's the Pocono Mts (Seems a good choice with major hwy to get to it. See NJ for further info), Catskills(seems too close to coast) and Adirondacks (seems too far to try to get to)

PA:
Route 611 in eastern Pennsylvania rides the delaware river. Stay out of that area of travel. Easton PA floods often.
Note: the PA turnpike loosely follows the Appalachian Trail. Means one can leave the TP on foot and haul ass. fThe Appalachian Trail does not follow the PA turnpike, not even remotely close. The Appalachian Trail runs NE to SW and the PA turnpike runs E-W. There's only ONE point where the two are close and that's where they intersect.

Appalachian Trail (appalachiantrail.org) which is a very high elevation, but does not follow the turnpike. I know there's a hill just north of Lancaster/Manheim area that is 1,125 feet above sea level. Where as the TP near Manheim is about 500 feet above.

(paturnpike.com)
PA turnpike is low all the way to the west of Harrisburg. Be better to go up 81 either into NY or to 80 to go west in PA.

For Lancaster, the Mt. Gretna area is 1,050ft average. Just North of Manheim going to Lebanon.

MA:

RI:

SC:

TX:

If you are on Galveston Island, cross the causeway, take HWY 6 north, exit is very soon after crossing the bridge. This is to avoid Houston. If word gets out, Houston will be hell. Houston is hell during normal times.

VA:
For Wash, DC - see below

VT:

Washington, D.C.:

Here is flood map and elevation finder tools:
[link to www.floodmap.net (secure)]
[link to www.freemaptools.com (secure)]

Here is a topographic map to see where you are and where is the closest high ground:
[link to en-us.topographic-map.com (secure)]

Also, do have or print out paper maps.

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Thank you for the links to the maps ! I am at 613ft, about 4 miles south of Lake Michigan, so we should be good !
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In the interest of preparedness concerning the cities along the East coast should a Megatsunami actually occur from a LaPalma landslide, where would be some the best places to go to get to high ground in a timely manner.
Here's a compilation of member comments taken from the main Cumbre Vieja volcano thread. I sorted member comments and organized by coastal state information regarding preferential routes, high ground places to go and tips for traveling routes. All coastal states listed. If blank, there were no comments provided for that area.

Hopefully, this list will never be needed.

AL:
In Alabama, considering the coastal areas which lie at a range of around 10-30 feet above sea level and Mobile Bay and delta areas, which are pretty low lying land areas, I’d say if it were possible, try to get to Mt. Cheaha area. It’s about 4-5 hours north of the Gulf Coast area and is around 1200-1500 feet above sea level.
You may not have to drive that far, to get to higher ground, but you’d need to take into consideration all of the rivers in your area and try to get away from those.

If anyone else from Alabama can chime in and give a closer point to get to than Cheaha, that would be great!
I agree with you, it depends on personal tolerance for risk. Dothan has the nuclear power plant, why I didn't include it. Birmingham is plenty safe.

By even the scariest estimates, Mt. Cheaha should be fine. Personally, I think Dothan, or even Atmore, would be far enough inland. I would be heading for Birmingham, elevation about 650 feet.

Pine Mountain near Columbus Ga is 1395 feet. The area is around 922 feet. Or go up 441 to the Appalachians.

Head North and West, maybe to the NW part of the state. Get away from the Mississippi River and the smaller rivers on the Northshore. No one knows how this would affect the Mississippi River, but I have a bad feeling about that.

CT:

DE:
Drive to Lancaster PA or on to Harrisburg if in DE
Those in Lower Slower Delaware will have to drive up the peninsula first.

FL:
NW out of the State. Can cut across the State to the W. Coast very easily and take backroads heading North once gridlock happens. You COULD take 95-N, but it follows the entire Eastern coastline. What if gridlock occurs before you can exit and head West? That’s why my immediate course of action will be to head West first. You need to evacuate the State and assess from somewhere that you KNOW will be safe, like Eastern TN or Western NC. You need to be ready for now panicking aggressive drivers and chaos once it all goes mainstream. 20 million people in this State. Early response and speed of reaction to the Event will save your life. Make sure you are armed, but don’t be paranoid, don’t cause any trouble or start any problems- just stay “switched on” and be on guard. Keep your personal space safe. People turn into animals when they are subject to fear or chaos, oftentimes resorting to violence for any number of reasons. Look to pre-landfall Hurricane behavior for an example…fighting in stores, robberies, thefts, driving recklessly, etc. This is the one time in my life where I will advocate speeding, but not beyond your capabilities to react suddenly. All eyes in the vehicle need to be either on the Road watching for hazards, clearing lanes for you to pass or using a mobile device to run reconnaissance on traffic ahead as well as plotting course while the GPS still works. 

FL panhandle, I’m headed 98 west to 77 north to 20 west to 331 north to Montgomery then I 65 north to safety. Probably if I can cross the bridges headed to families in Indiana. I’m 3.3 above sea and 1/2 a mile from the beach. I don’t know if this helps. But definitely my plan

80, 60, 27, 441, 98, 301 Fairly good roads, but not interstate. (Even numbered road, East/West. Odd: N/S)

West coast FL here:
Have a few different ideas in mind...mostly focusing on an evening escape route because I'd be screwed if anything happens during daylight hours.

Was thinking to zigzag backroads up towards Tallahassee, then cut straight N into GA until I hit some hills. Have friends in TN, and family in OH should it get to that point. Car is already packed & ready, just need to jump in & go.

If we have a min. 6 hr. window, max 9 hr., it gives slightly enough leeway to get somewhat north before it hits E FL, and either goes through everything or swings up around into the Gulf, before hitting the far W side of FL.

If it's too short notice the closest I'd get would be to aim NE towards Gainesville, there are a few but not many spots above 100' to hope for at best.

Been studying this topography app along with matching up roads & drive times to see where to zigzag. Stay safe y'all!

GA:

I live in SE GA close to the FL border. My plan is to head NW to Waycross, then toward Macon of needed.

LA/MS:

Head North and West, maybe to the NW part of the state. Get away from the Mississippi River and the smaller rivers on the Northshore. No one knows how this would affect the Mississippi River, but I have a bad feeling about that.

Evacuating south Louisiana has historically proven to be a very difficult task due to stubborn citizens and slow-moving government officials.
Lake Pontchartrain gets surges from hurricane waters, and would most likely be affected by tsunami waters as well.

Jackson, MS, should be safe.

MD:
If on the Chesapeake region in Maryland you need to high tail north west to at least Fredrick, MD.

For Wash, DC - see below

NC:
BEFORE official EBS alerts go off need to hightail it inland via major traffic corridors before they become parking lots. Goal is to get west of I-95.
hurricane evac plans of reversing all major traffic corridors (like I-40, 795 64/264).
Both Carolinas are problematic due to low country, so many waterways emptying out into ocean. Depending on size of wave and amount of water being pushed, NC's OBX will be like front tackle line but then energy of water moves across the big Albemarle Sound and pushes up all rivers, creeks, etc.

Folks inland living on/near waterways need to factor in rising water and the backwash of debris once water reverses proper course to empty back down east.

NH:

NJ:
just take one of the many roads West toward PA.(195-95-PA turnpike route). Aside from NW Jersey where there are mountains, there's really no other option but to haul ass into PA.

In NJ, the safe counties would be Morris and Sussex in the northwest corner. (30 miles west off the GWB)
If you go into PA, stay away from the Delaware River because the water will come up it.
Keep an eye on traffic patterns. If I get the sense that the general population is starting to flee, I'll stop short of approaching the Delaware because getting stuck in a bottleneck (The Delaware Water Gap) there would be very bad.

Note: poster is on this thread if you wish to question this advice further;
NJ here. Bad advice if you are at least 20 miles inland. Stay home with maximum preps, don't end up a refugee in a FEMA camp.

The tsunami size is being greatly exaggerated. Maximum 80 feet but probably 40 is accurate. Penetration 4 to 6 miles, 10 at worst. Most fringe scenario 20 miles.

If you are 20 miles in, the greatest danger is hordes of displaced people. Do not be one of them.

95 Bridge to PA crosses below Trenton. Bad bad move. The Deleware is tidal all the way to Trenton marsh. Floods occur on the PA side usually, NJ is a high bluff mostly. You do not want to be on the roads in PA near there.

If you are really freaking out in S Jersey, look up Arneys Mt. It's really a hill, but over 200 feet.

NY:
There's the Pocono Mts (Seems a good choice with major hwy to get to it. See NJ for further info), Catskills(seems too close to coast) and Adirondacks (seems too far to try to get to)

PA:
Route 611 in eastern Pennsylvania rides the delaware river. Stay out of that area of travel. Easton PA floods often.
Note: the PA turnpike loosely follows the Appalachian Trail. Means one can leave the TP on foot and haul ass. fThe Appalachian Trail does not follow the PA turnpike, not even remotely close. The Appalachian Trail runs NE to SW and the PA turnpike runs E-W. There's only ONE point where the two are close and that's where they intersect.

Appalachian Trail (appalachiantrail.org) which is a very high elevation, but does not follow the turnpike. I know there's a hill just north of Lancaster/Manheim area that is 1,125 feet above sea level. Where as the TP near Manheim is about 500 feet above.

(paturnpike.com)
PA turnpike is low all the way to the west of Harrisburg. Be better to go up 81 either into NY or to 80 to go west in PA.

For Lancaster, the Mt. Gretna area is 1,050ft average. Just North of Manheim going to Lebanon.

MA:

RI:

SC:

TX:

If you are on Galveston Island, cross the causeway, take HWY 6 north, exit is very soon after crossing the bridge. This is to avoid Houston. If word gets out, Houston will be hell. Houston is hell during normal times.

VA:
For Wash, DC - see below

VT:

Washington, D.C.:

Here is flood map and elevation finder tools:
[link to www.floodmap.net (secure)]
[link to www.freemaptools.com (secure)]

Here is a topographic map to see where you are and where is the closest high ground:
[link to en-us.topographic-map.com (secure)]

Also, do have or print out paper maps.

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The danger here is that any eruption near that fault could be the one that tips the balance toward lateral collapse:

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That topographic map link at the end of your post is fantastic.
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This is great information from the OP.

Thank you for sharing!!
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NJ here. Bad advice if you are at least 20 miles inland. Stay home with maximum preps, don't end up a refugee in a FEMA camp.

The tsunami size is being greatly exaggerated. Maximum 80 feet but probably 40 is accurate. Penetration 4 to 6 miles, 10 at worst. Most fringe scenario 20 miles.

If you are 20 miles in, the greatest danger is hordes of displaced people. Do not be one of them.

95 Bridge to PA crosses below Trenton. Bad bad move. The Deleware is tidal all the way to Trenton marsh. Floods occur on the PA side usually, NJ is a high bluff mostly. You do not want to be on the roads in PA near there.

If you are really freaking out in S Jersey, look up Arneys Mt. It's really a hill, but over 200 feet.
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The OP is providing hopium about the tsunami size. It’s definitely about 100 feet easily based on experts. We need to stop trying to look on the bright side and tell the truth.
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I'm sorry, I haven't read all the replies. Hopefully I'm not repeating something already stated.
If you don't already have your vehicle packed and can leave within five minutes notice, all of this route planning is a waste, for those of you that live on or near the coast or anywhere within the Florida peninsula.

This is the advice I have given to my family down there:

If you aren't leaving well in advance, forget about trying to drive out of the danger zone. Find a building that is at least 4-5 stories tall and know how to reach the top floors or roof.
Find a building that has plenty of other buildings surrounding it so those will take the brunt of the water and debris that will come with the water.
Make sure it is a stable building and won't have its foundation washed out easily.

I have worked on more than a few incidents that required evacuation (none of them nearly on the scale this would entail) and it ALWAYS winds up in grid lock. In those cases, the grid lock was annoying for everyone involved.
In this case, being trapped in your car will most likely be fatal.
I urge you, especially those on the coasts and in the peninsula, to reconnoiter tall buildings instead of trying to drive out of state.

Have some form of shelter in your go bag, a tarp, tent, something to keep you and your loved ones out of the sun and other elements, should you wind up on a roof.
Have water and ways to purify water. If you can stash some ahead of time, even better.
Many of us remember what a fiasco NOLA was after Katrina. Imagine what an insane CF this will be if its the entire eastern seaboard that gets flooded?!
You will be sitting on that roof or top floor for quite some time before rescue arrives, plan accordingly.
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Those in DC should head east. As far east as possible.
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Excellent information! Thanks OP
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I live in North East New Jersey. Not all the way up in the corner, but in Essex County (Newark and east of there along Bloomfield Ave. I am essentially in the center of Montclair. We are 120'-200' above sea level. However, the next ridge up (Eagle Rock Reservation, Verona, Pompton Ave) are 450'+. The view at Eagle Rock is 500'. If this is the real big one (some videos suggest could be well over 200') then Eagle Rock is our escape location.

Be safe all.
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Thanks for your work and time OP. There are a lot of us glpers on coasts. Sole home 7 miles inland in 05, headed for the mountains, in anticipation of all we were learning. Stayed in mtns 14 years. Now back on coast, due to losing business and everything in fire.

Back on coast for year now, new start, squared away. Am too damn close to water now, 1/8 mile, and know better. Just nothing I can do at moment.

It blows me away that i had spent those years growing, medicine making, prepping and then all is gone in fire. Have pondered that quite a bit for the last year.

Anyway, thank you. With all going on in the world, seems I havn't picked up on urgency to leave yet. Mostly yearning for fall in mountains, but not the fight or flight rush I usually have.

So for now, what will be, will be. Have had to release to higher power for a couple years now. Frankly, not mad anymore that I'm older. The future is not a place I will fit in very well. Might go out with tsunami, that truly would be ironic. Hey, stranger things have happened.

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All three leftist coasts need a good cleansing. A nice lake Michigan tsunami to take out Chicago would probably wash those Asian carp back away from the lake too...
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In the interest of preparedness concerning the cities along the East coast should a Megatsunami actually occur from a LaPalma landslide, where would be some the best places to go to get to high ground in a timely manner.
Here's a compilation of member comments taken from the main Cumbre Vieja volcano thread. I sorted member comments and organized by coastal state information regarding preferential routes, high ground places to go and tips for traveling routes. All coastal states listed. If blank, there were no comments provided for that area.

Hopefully, this list will never be needed.

AL:
In Alabama, considering the coastal areas which lie at a range of around 10-30 feet above sea level and Mobile Bay and delta areas, which are pretty low lying land areas, I’d say if it were possible, try to get to Mt. Cheaha area. It’s about 4-5 hours north of the Gulf Coast area and is around 1200-1500 feet above sea level.
You may not have to drive that far, to get to higher ground, but you’d need to take into consideration all of the rivers in your area and try to get away from those.

If anyone else from Alabama can chime in and give a closer point to get to than Cheaha, that would be great!
I agree with you, it depends on personal tolerance for risk. Dothan has the nuclear power plant, why I didn't include it. Birmingham is plenty safe.

By even the scariest estimates, Mt. Cheaha should be fine. Personally, I think Dothan, or even Atmore, would be far enough inland. I would be heading for Birmingham, elevation about 650 feet.

Pine Mountain near Columbus Ga is 1395 feet. The area is around 922 feet. Or go up 441 to the Appalachians.

Head North and West, maybe to the NW part of the state. Get away from the Mississippi River and the smaller rivers on the Northshore. No one knows how this would affect the Mississippi River, but I have a bad feeling about that.

CT:

DE:
Drive to Lancaster PA or on to Harrisburg if in DE
Those in Lower Slower Delaware will have to drive up the peninsula first.

FL:
NW out of the State. Can cut across the State to the W. Coast very easily and take backroads heading North once gridlock happens. You COULD take 95-N, but it follows the entire Eastern coastline. What if gridlock occurs before you can exit and head West? That’s why my immediate course of action will be to head West first. You need to evacuate the State and assess from somewhere that you KNOW will be safe, like Eastern TN or Western NC. You need to be ready for now panicking aggressive drivers and chaos once it all goes mainstream. 20 million people in this State. Early response and speed of reaction to the Event will save your life. Make sure you are armed, but don’t be paranoid, don’t cause any trouble or start any problems- just stay “switched on” and be on guard. Keep your personal space safe. People turn into animals when they are subject to fear or chaos, oftentimes resorting to violence for any number of reasons. Look to pre-landfall Hurricane behavior for an example…fighting in stores, robberies, thefts, driving recklessly, etc. This is the one time in my life where I will advocate speeding, but not beyond your capabilities to react suddenly. All eyes in the vehicle need to be either on the Road watching for hazards, clearing lanes for you to pass or using a mobile device to run reconnaissance on traffic ahead as well as plotting course while the GPS still works. 

FL panhandle, I’m headed 98 west to 77 north to 20 west to 331 north to Montgomery then I 65 north to safety. Probably if I can cross the bridges headed to families in Indiana. I’m 3.3 above sea and 1/2 a mile from the beach. I don’t know if this helps. But definitely my plan

80, 60, 27, 441, 98, 301 Fairly good roads, but not interstate. (Even numbered road, East/West. Odd: N/S)

West coast FL here:
Have a few different ideas in mind...mostly focusing on an evening escape route because I'd be screwed if anything happens during daylight hours.

Was thinking to zigzag backroads up towards Tallahassee, then cut straight N into GA until I hit some hills. Have friends in TN, and family in OH should it get to that point. Car is already packed & ready, just need to jump in & go.

If we have a min. 6 hr. window, max 9 hr., it gives slightly enough leeway to get somewhat north before it hits E FL, and either goes through everything or swings up around into the Gulf, before hitting the far W side of FL.

If it's too short notice the closest I'd get would be to aim NE towards Gainesville, there are a few but not many spots above 100' to hope for at best.

Been studying this topography app along with matching up roads & drive times to see where to zigzag. Stay safe y'all!

GA:

I live in SE GA close to the FL border. My plan is to head NW to Waycross, then toward Macon of needed.

LA/MS:

Head North and West, maybe to the NW part of the state. Get away from the Mississippi River and the smaller rivers on the Northshore. No one knows how this would affect the Mississippi River, but I have a bad feeling about that.

Evacuating south Louisiana has historically proven to be a very difficult task due to stubborn citizens and slow-moving government officials.
Lake Pontchartrain gets surges from hurricane waters, and would most likely be affected by tsunami waters as well.

Jackson, MS, should be safe.

MA:

Let’s not forget Maine…
I’m on the coast. 10 miles from the sea, but 1 mile from a river that meets the sea.
I don’t have much advice except to get off the coastal Route 1, and head inland.

MD:
If on the Chesapeake region in Maryland you need to high tail north west to at least Fredrick, MD.

For Wash, DC - see below

NC:
BEFORE official EBS alerts go off need to hightail it inland via major traffic corridors before they become parking lots. Goal is to get west of I-95.
hurricane evac plans of reversing all major traffic corridors (like I-40, 795 64/264).
Both Carolinas are problematic due to low country, so many waterways emptying out into ocean. Depending on size of wave and amount of water being pushed, NC's OBX will be like front tackle line but then energy of water moves across the big Albemarle Sound and pushes up all rivers, creeks, etc.

Folks inland living on/near waterways need to factor in rising water and the backwash of debris once water reverses proper course to empty back down east.

NH:

NJ:
just take one of the many roads West toward PA.(195-95-PA turnpike route). Aside from NW Jersey where there are mountains, there's really no other option but to haul ass into PA.

In NJ, the safe counties would be Morris and Sussex in the northwest corner. (30 miles west off the GWB)
If you go into PA, stay away from the Delaware River because the water will come up it.
Keep an eye on traffic patterns. If I get the sense that the general population is starting to flee, I'll stop short of approaching the Delaware because getting stuck in a bottleneck (The Delaware Water Gap) there would be very bad.

Note: poster is on this thread if you wish to question this advice further;
NJ here. Bad advice if you are at least 20 miles inland. Stay home with maximum preps, don't end up a refugee in a FEMA camp.

The tsunami size is being greatly exaggerated. Maximum 80 feet but probably 40 is accurate. Penetration 4 to 6 miles, 10 at worst. Most fringe scenario 20 miles.

If you are 20 miles in, the greatest danger is hordes of displaced people. Do not be one of them.

95 Bridge to PA crosses below Trenton. Bad bad move. The Deleware is tidal all the way to Trenton marsh. Floods occur on the PA side usually, NJ is a high bluff mostly. You do not want to be on the roads in PA near there.

If you are really freaking out in S Jersey, look up Arneys Mt. It's really a hill, but over 200 feet.

NY:
There's the Pocono Mts (Seems a good choice with major hwy to get to it. See NJ for further info), Catskills(seems too close to coast) and Adirondacks (seems too far to try to get to)

PA:
Route 611 in eastern Pennsylvania rides the delaware river. Stay out of that area of travel. Easton PA floods often.
Note: the PA turnpike loosely follows the Appalachian Trail. Means one can leave the TP on foot and haul ass. fThe Appalachian Trail does not follow the PA turnpike, not even remotely close. The Appalachian Trail runs NE to SW and the PA turnpike runs E-W. There's only ONE point where the two are close and that's where they intersect.

Appalachian Trail (appalachiantrail.org) which is a very high elevation, but does not follow the turnpike. I know there's a hill just north of Lancaster/Manheim area that is 1,125 feet above sea level. Where as the TP near Manheim is about 500 feet above.

(paturnpike.com)
PA turnpike is low all the way to the west of Harrisburg. Be better to go up 81 either into NY or to 80 to go west in PA.

For Lancaster, the Mt. Gretna area is 1,050ft average. Just North of Manheim going to Lebanon.

MA:

RI:

SC:

TX:

If you are on Galveston Island, cross the causeway, take HWY 6 north, exit is very soon after crossing the bridge. This is to avoid Houston. If word gets out, Houston will be hell. Houston is hell during normal times.

VA:
For Wash, DC - see below

VT:

Washington, D.C.:

Here is flood map and elevation finder tools:
[link to www.floodmap.net (secure)]
[link to www.freemaptools.com (secure)]

Here is a topographic map to see where you are and where is the closest high ground:
[link to en-us.topographic-map.com (secure)]

Also, do have or print out paper maps.

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Where is the honesty about the tsunami height? Saying 40 feet is more realistic does not align with the data. It’s well over 100 feet.
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Where is the honesty about the tsunami height? Saying 40 feet is more realistic does not align with the data. It’s well over 100 feet.
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Those in DC should head east. As far east as possible.
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VISIBLE GRAVITY WAVES Now Emitting from La Palma!


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That's China electromagnetically stirring the Lava Pot.

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NH ~ get to the west of the state, Get to 93 if possible and stay away/ get away from the 95 area as much as possible.
Seabrook Nuclear is only a few feet above sea level. That knocks out an area from just south of Portland Maine, all the way down towards Boston.

ME~ York and within 10 miles of 95 on either side need to head north and west.
Until you get north of Portland 95 is underwater at various points so you will have to get either north of Gray on 95 or take rural routes.
Most of southern Maine is within the zone of Seabrook Nuclear power plant and needs to evacuate.
Costal areas should all go west. Go further than you think safe since with the amount of rivers and the way the coast is laid out waves may gain height from our unique geography.

MA~ Most of the North shore will be underwater, get outside the 95 corridor and its better. The northern part of the north shore needs to be aware of Seabrook Nuclear plant as well.
South shore get much much much farther away. When the lovely diversity cities get hit, or find out that others have been expect looting. (I don't know South shore Geography, I'm from Saugus)
Cape should be completely evacuated, I don't know if that would be possible. This may be one of those a boat is your best bet situation. Go far far far out to sea to avoid the wave.
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Where is the honesty about the tsunami height? Saying 40 feet is more realistic does not align with the data. It’s well over 100 feet.
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The real problem whether it's 40' or 100' is how the nuke plants on the east coast would be affected!

No time to properly shut them down.

Then what?

Hum..................





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