Cumbre Vieja La Palma Volcano - In the interest of preparedness for East coast cities - Evac info:

Anyone have Dates on this? I am supposed to Vacation in the Panhandle 11/04-11/11 in Destin to be exact.

Left crappy 'ol Suffolk 1987 before it got even crappier.

The volcano only speaks lava. Even if she knew a date, she wouldn't tell us and just keep spewing lava. That's what she does best.

The only other thing to suggest in that area is to begin looking into and asking questions about private charters at the general aviation sections of airports such as Islip and Republic and maybe even West Hampton. Would cost a fortune, but would save lives. Neighbors and friends get together to pay the big bill. But would have to really look into it very well and not think that it is something to do at the last minute.

NO one is considering this...they're tittering about evacuation...to where? Go ahead, evacuate to a river city and see what happens. I mean rivers,tributaries, creeks inland that cannot flow as they do every single day. Dams being overwhelmed not just the kinetic waves from the tsunami...I'm talking the entire Mississippi will essentially become dammed from not being able to empty into the sea. And every feeder river every creek, every thing...will get "backed up". Consider the Great lakes that use tributaries...working their way to the sea...on both sides. What about the St. Lawrence? What will the lakes do when they cannot 'move' as usual?

Evacuate--to where? exactly? Do you remember the "looting" in NOLA when the flood waters rose? Consider that in "river cities"...because that element will be looting, and murdering and every other thing that element does. Until they figure out too late that all the loot in the world isn't going to fill their bellies because life as they knew it is over...I do not want to be in a city when THAT realization hits. It won't be "big screen TVs and beer"...and all that pent up rage? Impulsivity? Inability to plan ahead?

This will not end well, not even for inland.

Also of interest is the look here not there...this FINALLY entering the main lexicon? Don't you find that strange? They spent a few years making the west coast uninhabitable for any descent folks...giving stores 'excuses' to move, making all drugs legal so all drug addicts flood into the area while decent folk move? Ever wonder why? I think we need to be keeping a very close eye on Dutch and consider antipodal activity...because it could well be...the west coast that gets it first and trust me those people are NOT expecting anything, they're busy feeling "safe" watching the east coast.

Worrying about this thing is stupid silly.

Go to the Wikipedia page about it and read the ‘later models’ section which shows that even with a complete slip, waves of less than 20 feet would reach the US coast and most likely around 10 feet.

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

That’s a tiny fraction of the Japan and Indonesia tsunamis.

So you'll be livestreaming from the beach?

Yo' sir/madam, most of us agree as to how bad the human condition falls to on a regular basis simply b/c we are probably the stupidest species in never learning our lessons from history.

Which we've been severely handicapped due to inconvenient truths about our world and Universe that elites and ass-hats have purposefully kept from us. Nothing new under the Sun.

A few of us feel obligated to holler the warning. For those who'll listen, could mean the difference between life or death.

This is a link that is sprinkled thru'out most of the La Palma threads. It is an updated as of Sept report showing map simulations of 75 ft to 300 ft wave hitting the US eastern coast. It focuses on waterways, lakes.
[link to modernsurvivalblog.com (secure)]

Thanks for that link Zenobia....I read the comments (bangs head against the wall).

I will repeat. ANY Tributary such as the Ohio river, that feeds into the Mississippi river which empties into the Gulf will experience flooding when the Mississippi cannot empty into the Gulf. Any creeks that empty into the Ohio which empties into the Mississippi will also experience flooding.

Thus all inland people who live in areas where a tributary empties into an ocean-bound river must be prepared for flooding. The tsunami water does not recede overnight. It takes days. Each of those days is another day of "backed up water" that cannot exit the system. This puts pressure on local dams and public water systems.

Your link focuses only on waterways and systems that would face immediate impact from the tsunami. It's OK..I read the comments. It's like I entered this great dark void of "Florida will be completely underwater"..."I live in Jacksonville are we safe?" and can never resurface.

Sometimes there is no help.

Thanks for that link Zenobia....I read the comments (bangs head against the wall).

I will repeat. ANY Tributary such as the Ohio river, that feeds into the Mississippi river which empties into the Gulf will experience flooding when the Mississippi cannot empty into the Gulf. Any creeks that empty into the Ohio which empties into the Mississippi will also experience flooding.

Thus all inland people who live in areas where a tributary empties into an ocean-bound river must be prepared for flooding. The tsunami water does not recede overnight. It takes days. Each of those days is another day of "backed up water" that cannot exit the system. This puts pressure on local dams and public water systems.

Your link focuses only on waterways and systems that would face immediate impact from the tsunami. It's OK..I read the comments. It's like I entered this great dark void of "Florida will be completely underwater"..."I live in Jacksonville are we safe?" and can never resurface.

Sometimes there is no help.

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Just dropped this on Mr P's thread. 7 min video of river flooding in Japan's big one.

Last Edited by Deplorable Zenobia on 10/15/2021 09:01 AM

irony: even if it erupted in a way to remotely cause any significant tsunami, due to explsve evaporation an ice age happens with less than 1/10th the eruption people are suggesting, global rains/snow for a year straight, volcanic winter from cloud cover for years -.-', this could happen from hawaii far more likely than anywhere else hawaii caused rains for 40 days and nights before and will again

FL: Update to make it easier to understand:

Where ever you are, you want to go North and West out of the State. You can cut across the State to the W. Coast very easily on backroads and then head North. Again, look for back roads. From the east coast, you COULD take 95-N, but it follows the entire Eastern coastline. That’s why your first immediate course of action will be to head West first.

You need to be ready for now panicking aggressive drivers and chaos once it all goes mainstream. 20 million people in this State. Early response and speed of reaction to the Event will save your life. Make sure you are armed, but don’t be paranoid, don’t cause any trouble or start any problems- just stay “switched on” and be on guard. Keep your personal space safe. People turn into animals when they are subject to fear or chaos, oftentimes resorting to violence for any number of reasons. Look to pre-landfall Hurricane behavior for an example…fighting in stores, robberies, thefts, driving recklessly, etc. This is the one time in my life where I will advocate speeding, but not beyond your capabilities to react suddenly. All eyes in the vehicle need to be either on the Road watching for hazards, clearing lanes for you to pass or using a mobile device to run reconnaissance on traffic ahead as well as plotting course while the GPS still works.


From southern part of the state (south of Lake Okeechobee), Keys or Miami, I would get on 595/Alligator Alley (also called Tamiami Trail) and go north. This will take you west (yes, it says north, but it means east/west (cray/cray!). I-595, etc. Once you get to the middle of the state (Hwy 27 or 29 or 31 - depending on where you are (these are mostly out of Broward Cty and Hendry),you can take any of those north. They are back roads, but mostly 4 lanes and not terribly crowded. Most people opt to stay on 595 and go up 95 (east coast) or 75 (west coast). But by taking one of these, you are in the middle of the state. 441 or 98 out of Okeechobee will also take you north.

Then, depending on where you find yourself, you can go west on 80, 70, or 60. 98 or 301 are also north of Lakeland, and good roads to go north AND west. You'll have to look on a map to see where they connect. They are all Fairly good roads, but not interstate. By this time, you are well north of the lake, heading toward the northern half of the state and the elevation of the land begins to rise.

If you're leaving from the West coast, like Naples/Ft. Myers/Tampa area - you might have to travel up 75 for a bit. GOOD LUCK getting out of Tampa in any kind of hurry. You'll definitely want to be the FIRST to get out of Tampa, as it doens't take any time at all to bottle-neck on 75 there, and other than surface roads, like Dale Mabry, there aren't many good north/south roads that go very far. Once you get north of - say Ocala - 301 is a good bet, but a really rural road, and lots of stop lights, so take that into consideration with your driving time, stopping/gas breaks, etc.

You need to be one of the FIRST to hit the roads once that thing busts loose.
If you've lived anywhere in FL for any length of time, you already know which times of day, or days of the week, or near certain cities, and how long it would take to get out of the state, so I would (mostly) go with that type of information to make plans.

Back roads are good rather than Interstates, but interstates are certainly faster. So, my plan would be to use the interstate until I see too many panicked people jumping onto it. Hopefully, I would be very close to where I want to be before that would happen.

If I still lived in Florida I would be thinking of the top level of universal studios parking deck. Debris would be a concern but water would flow though. Might be stuck up there a while until search and rescue sends a chopper.

Florida peninsula.

If you aren't leaving well in advance, forget about trying to drive out of the danger zone. Find a building that is at least 4-5 stories tall and know how to reach the top floors or roof, but not one on either coast! A parking garage in Orlando or Ocala is probably a good bet.

Find a building that has plenty of other buildings surrounding it so those will take the brunt of the water and debris that will come with the water. Make sure it is a stable building and won't have its foundation washed out easily. This is another reason you DO NOT want to be in a high-rise-type building at the beach.

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Just dropped this on Mr P's thread. 7 min video of river flooding in Japan's big one.


(tried to fix the quote issue river poster was having...not sure it worked until I hit post, so if it didn't, sorry. I tried.

Exactly river bro... My guess is the video river empties into the sea and this video is taken very close to that area. This tsunami was small, if memory serves, only 3 meters (9 feet). The wave is pushing everything upstream. What happens to the water just trying to move to the sea? Everything will get backed up. Debris can damage infrastructure and bridges as larger debris gets pushed upriver and starts "log jamming" as it tries to pass under bridges.

Further away from the mouth the water trying to move downstream has no option but to spread out.

I have a place I'd like to go if such a thing happens, but mentally I'm calculating how much time? How much time before the main river near me that flows into the Mississippi river backs up enough to start backing up creeks and taking out bridge, making the way impassible. LOL packing the kyack I guess. Depending on the actual size of the wave that impacts the Mississippi, and the velocity, I may have as much as 2 days time to get over those bridges before the flooding impacts my area.

Won't know until it happens. A small vid-sized wave is unlikely to impact me, but a whopper such as predicted by Day & Ward? better to not try to guess, but be aware and take those things into consideration before leaving my place. I could be perfectly safe here overall, however I'm cognizant of the "excursions" from the city of the looting demographic.

Plain talk? If I lived on/near the east coast I'd be taking rivers very very seriously. The wave that hits on that coast first will be more powerful than a wave that hits the gulf coast having swept over Florida. (MAYBE...it that wave is 300ft, even sweeping over Florida isn't going to slow that thing enough to leave upstream unaffected.

Great Lakes areas...when they can't drain as usual into their rivers there will be flooding from the tops down as well as the bottom up.

Just added, thanks much!

Everyone, I know WhiteAngel is probably resting right now, but I sent her an email. She has been kind enough to gather phone numbers to alert people if this thing happens to blow during the night, while many in danger may be sleeping.

I don't know why I did not think of this sooner, but I have a way that this can be accomplished with one phone call instead of many, saving countless time in notifications.

We can make a Skype group and add our members who are in harms way to the group. A Skype group can hold 600 members. This way we just need to activate a group call and the program will ring everyone in the group. I have skype on my computer and my phone and the ring is very loud. It will ring until each person in the group answers or declines the call, so if one person awakes, it doesn't stop ringing for the others until they wake as well. I can make the group and add the link in this thread. People will have to have or download skype to join. This would be a timely way to get word out to many at once and save time for those who need to get out of dodge quickly (like me!).

IF you think this is a good idea, I will create the group right away.


*****UPDATE*****

we have a skype group for any and all who may be in the danger zone. The link to join is [link to join.skype.com (secure)] and White Angel will make the call if it is ever necessary.

Last Edited by DizzieMissLizzie on 10/17/2021 07:10 PM

Bless the Mod who red pinned this one.

For those just seeing this thread and can contribute to states w/ not much info, please do so.

Anyone in the evac zone should have PAPER MAPS & ATLAS on hand.

What about the Great Lakes?
What will happen?

Not all scientists agree - the alternative views have been "censored"

"La Palma Tsunami Documentary | National Geographic Mega Tsunami Documentary HD" - YT [link to youtu.be (secure)]

Probably so.

Even more so since there are regrettably way worse things - proven and confirmed - going on in today's America, East Coast and world.

Joe Brandon, anyone?

Watch this simulation


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We wouldn't mine NY-DC-'lefty' Communist Ben & Jerry's Vermont, Mass-NJ-RI-NH-Maine going under..but we prefer the West Coast dropping off into the Pacific because this would help Our country more...or about the same!

The most important thing for people to remember is that you have to pay attention and get out long before the general public knows what's happening.

My advice on how to escape NJ wasn't "bad" as another poster claims; it simply assumed that you'd be getting out way ahead of everyone else. If you wait until you might only make it to the Trenton/Philly area before the wave hits, you have no chance. (Another poster even explained that in their plans to gauge the situation and find high ground east/north of the Delaware Water Gap area if it was too late.)

Bottom line is this: Regardless of where you are escaping from, you have to get out before everyone else.

Edited to add: FTR, I have my doubts as to whether the megatsunami will actually happen, but it doesn't hurt to be prepared...

Last Edited by Bittersweet on 10/22/2021 09:04 AM

That eruption is a nothingburger event.

SHOULD WE...START TO WORRY?...UH

NOV. 4TH!

THEN, DEC. 1ST-ISH!

THIS DISASTER WILL B WORTH THE WAIT!..