Texas Baby Murder Ban Reinstated!

These fucking Activist judges have way too much power. It seems all they do is overturn, and return each others rulings.

Laws are meant to be put into place by the legislature, not flip flopped by judges.

I could be wrong... don't believe I am. So the answer to horror, hate, and abuse is to kill? Yeh, my life choices late 90s sucked ass, but even I have eyes to see. Plus for 13 years I was married to an M.D. not that it matters. It does as far as establishing the quality of my social circle and friends for 13 years.

It is entirely anecdotal but none of the M.D.s I knew believed in abortion. There are so many couples out there that WANT to be parents, REGARDLESS of the manner of conception.

If your heart is so full of SELFISHNESS and HATRED that you cannot let a new life be fully born and then be cared for, well, I don't know what to say. I do, but I'll try and be classy and refrain.

Well, I guess I will stick my dick into this hornet's nest. :)


First, let me say that the Federal government should have no say in this issue and Roe v Wade is Federal Over-reach. This is not a matter of interstate commerce or national defense. Feds need to butt out.

Second, the United States is not a Theocracy like Iran. Joel Osteen should not become president anymore than Iran should be ruled by their religious leaders. America was formed based on religious freedom, so any arguments for or against a law should not be directly pulled from the bible, the Koran etc.
"We the People" hold governmental authority, not a King, Not a Pope, etc. Religious beliefs one way or the other may guide and inspire your character and thinking, but not more than this. We don't want people to be persecuted because they did not tithe to a particular church or have their hands cut off for stealing a grape, or cut off from the ability to earn a living if they are atheist or a different religion.

Third, laws are supposed to be written by the duly elected legislature, and not by activist judges or President's that "have a pen". We don't elect Kings in this country. The powers are separated and limited for a reason. To prevent Kings and dictators from seizing all control.

The elected legislature of Texas made a law. Unless and until a new legislature changes that law, it is the law.

I would suggest that the law should be something most people can live with, or the danger is triggering people into becoming one issue voters. If conservatives want to maintain control of Texas, they need to not drive women from the party by making laws that the majority of them can not abide.

I would suggest the law as written, is a bit too one sided.
I would suggest extending the time period by a couple weeks, say from approx 6 weeks now to around 9 weeks to give sufficient time for a woman to notice her condition and act if necessary. I am a practical person and I don't want to see young women bleeding to death or dying from sepsis because they felt they had to go outside the system to prevent having a kid that they can't support or who might be born seriously deformed and addicted to drugs because they are a hard core drug user.
And certainly no woman should be expected to have a rape baby, without being given the right to decide within a reasonable time frame.
I have no idea how exactly the time can be decided, as women don't have a printer on their belly that prints out a bill of lading once they become pregnant. A heartbeat may have been the easy way to define the legal line in the sand as to the date cutoff. Maybe "Heartbeat plus 3 weeks" would work?

Obviously, killing a developing child once he or she resembles a human, with a higher functioning brain is ghastly and I would hope most of society would be against. But I would also hope that most of society would be against having women bleeding and dying from taking matters into their own hands, when they felt they had no alternative to a situation where they feel they cannot give a child a reasonable upbringing or even to be born without some open spine deformity from their drug habit.

Legislating a compromise would prevent the law from swinging like a pendulum at each election, and from serving as a 1 issue voter way that communists for example can swing into office on the back of that one issue. Because once the communists are in office, nothing short of a bullet to the head will get them out again.

Just my 2 cents worth.

"A federal appeals court reinstated Texas’ controversial 'fetal heart beat' abortion ban on Friday night, days after a lower court suspended the Republican-backed law."

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Amazing how the LEFT and their ilk argue and fight to murder babies...

Good to hear this news, but I'm sure this will up in the SC.

I am not trying to cause argument, but only to state that we cannot know what many of these women are going through, what their histories are and what brought them to the place they are at.

It is easy to judge from our personal experience on others. I have learned the hard way, that there are so many more things than what we can think of that would cause people to make the choices they do and I believe it is simple minded to chalk it up to only selfishness.

It might be only that, but it could be something else.

Again, who are we to decide?

I think a better tact would be all those who believe this is a moral issue to be eradicated, should volunteer their time, money, etc. to the causes that bring women to this decision.

If it's financial, are there cracks they are falling through where they need help?

Is it just general information about options they are not told about at the clinics?

Maybe something else?


I also believe Planned Parenthood (and clinics like it) need to be removed from this due to their financial conflict of interest. There should be no financial incentives for something like this. There are other ways to provide for women's health without something like that.

These fucking Activist judges have way too much power. It seems all they do is overturn, and return each others rulings.

Laws are meant to be put into place by the legislature, not flip flopped by judges.

I better not hear complaining once we start banning all guns in a majority of states. You guys can try and circumvent the law so can we.

Brace yourselves cause it's coming. Go ahead and try your little terror attacks in response. Here is a hint, we want you too. It helps us greatly.

These fucking Activist judges have way too much power. It seems all they do is overturn, and return each others rulings.

Laws are meant to be put into place by the legislature, not flip flopped by judges.

Well, I guess I will stick my dick into this hornet's nest. :)


First, let me say that the Federal government should have no say in this issue and Roe v Wade is Federal Over-reach. This is not a matter of interstate commerce or national defense. Feds need to butt out.

Second, the United States is not a Theocracy like Iran. Joel Osteen should not become president anymore than Iran should be ruled by their religious leaders. America was formed based on religious freedom, so any arguments for or against a law should not be directly pulled from the Bible, the Koran etc.
"We the People" hold governmental authority, not a King, Not a Pope, etc. Religious beliefs one way or the other may guide and inspire your character and thinking, but not more than this. We don't want people to be persecuted because they did not tithe to a particular church or have their hands cut off for stealing a grape, or cut off from the ability to earn a living if they are atheist or a different religion.

Third, laws are supposed to be written by the duly elected legislature, and not by activist judges or President's that "have a pen". We don't elect Kings in this country. The powers are separated and limited for a reason. To prevent Kings and dictators from seizing all control.

The elected legislature of Texas made a law. Unless and until a new legislature changes that law, it is the law.

I would suggest that the law should be something most people can live with, or the danger is triggering people into becoming one issue voters. If conservatives want to maintain control of Texas, they need to not drive women from the party by making laws that the majority of them can not abide.

I would suggest the law as written, is a bit too one sided.
I would suggest extending the time period by a couple weeks, say from approx 6 weeks now to around 9 weeks to give sufficient time for a woman to notice her condition and act if necessary. I am a practical person and I don't want to see young women bleeding to death or dying from sepsis because they felt they had to go outside the system to prevent having a kid that they can't support or who might be born seriously deformed and addicted to drugs because they are a hard core drug user.
And certainly no woman should be expected to have a rape baby, without being given the right to decide within a reasonable time frame.
I have no idea how exactly the time can be decided, as women don't have a printer on their belly that prints out a bill of lading once they become pregnant. A heartbeat may have been the easy way to define the legal line in the sand as to the date cutoff. Maybe "Heartbeat plus 3 weeks" would work?

Obviously, killing a developing child once he or she resembles a human, with a higher functioning brain is ghastly and I would hope most of society would be against. But I would also hope that most of society would be against having women bleeding and dying from taking matters into their own hands, when they felt they had no alternative to a situation where they feel they cannot give a child a reasonable upbringing or even to be born without some open spine deformity from their drug habit.

Legislating a compromise would prevent the law from swinging like a pendulum at each election, and from serving as a "lightning rod - 1 issue vote" way that communists for example can use to swing into office. Because once the communists are in office, nothing short of a bullet to the head will get them out again.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Just outlaw the profiteering of dead babies.

Make all aborted babies be given a proper burial.

No one can buy or possess a dead baby or parts of one.

Think of myself as fairly objective, but abortion is completely wrong and disgusting. Fuck your selfish claim to your body while disregarding the creation of life; frankly, it strikes me as being Evil.

I'm trying to imagine a country without "abortion."

More liberals, more progressives, more "they, them, it," more poverty, more abuse, more trafficking.

I'm not condoning abortion. I've never felt like it was much of my business.

What happens to the soul of that fetus, if you believe that fetus has a soul?

Is it condemned to hell? I don't believe so. If it indeed harbors a soul within its vessel, would that soul not go back to God?

I see no problem with that.

I personally believe in reincarnation of some sort. I've witnessed too much to convince me otherwise.

I also believe that if the fetus does indeed harbor a soul within its vessel, that soul goes back to the "bus stop," per se, to await safer, more proper transportation.

This is just my opinion and truth be told, I am ridiculously biased and understanding human psychology, I may have just formed my opinions in order to deal with what I have to deal with on a daily basis.

Part of what I do for a living deals with abused and neglected children. I bear witness to the most gruesome, evil acts perpetrated against the innocent. These children will never recover. They will never be free. They will live miserable lives, broken and forgotten.

For some of those children, the best possible outcome would have been to wait for a better bus.

Just my two cents.

Use your powers of citizens arrest and go get these doctors run em in and demand charges be brought, power is to the people.

Slags survive now. If slags didnt have wretch to do and live on, the problem would be tiny. Welfare for example

These fucking Activist judges have way too much power. It seems all they do is overturn, and return each others rulings.

Laws are meant to be put into place by the legislature, not flip flopped by judges.

This law doesn't allow for exception for rape or incest. So is it ok for the victims to suffer twice?