im an atheist. debate me!

I agree. When I was 13 i thought I was all clever reading the god delusion and the blind watchmaker.. Now i see the error of my ways. It was too easy to dismiss it.

And you know all of this how?

Did your home appear out of no where or did someone build it?

What about your car? Did it magically appear out of thin air or did someone build it?

Atheists are total jerks! Why waste my valuable time? You would lose! I used to be an atheist.

What about a tree, river or snowflake? Did someone build it? Or was it created by natural processes?

Truly feel what you are saying.

We are all on a spiritual path. Even not believing in spirituality is part of the spiritual path. And being at different points along that path, we each will have our personal level of awareness and will naturally develop our own personal truths. As we move further along and uncover more knowledge, the truths that we used to hold so dearly with absolute certainty will be revised or updated accordingly.

Ask a color blind person to pick out the red pepper among the green ones. Being not aware of his perception issue yet, he will say there is no red pepper and this is all just a big joke. Others with good vision tell him this is no joke. And so the man using his intellectual logic demands evidence to proof what he believes to be the mythical red pepper. The red pepper was there all along, he just could not see it. Later on, new technology helped cured the man's color blindness, and he now can see there really was a red pepper among the green ones, and the others were telling him the truth.

Ponder on where our intuition really comes from. Could it be from the multi-dimensional part of our DNA that, among many other things, stores all the human experiences we had from every one of our lifetimes here? Why little three year old Johnny goes into a violent temper tantrum every time his Mom takes him to an ocean beach to play and swim. Perhaps little Johnny in his previous life was a teenager who died from a violent drowning in an ocean. Now, his intuition tells him to stay away from any ocean to avoid another incident of drowning.

Was little Johnny's intuition and gut feelings fake and make believe. Not to little Johnny.

All the best!

Atheists just believe whatever bullshit nasa feeds them. They're not interested in actual science or actual proof. A nasa image or declaration is more than enough. Then they call themselves critical thinkers. Its shameful tbh

And what exactly is a "natural process"? Do you genuinely know what "nature" is or is it just your interpretation based on your limited empirical understanding of reality?

The proof of god ie ultimate reality is your own existence. You are the ultimate reality, because you can't go further than yourself.

Don't think of god as an entity, it is not. God is an abstract concept, fixed in language for the vague desire of covering the ontological truth, when you say god, you are not really talking about god, you are talking about your idea of god. Keep in mind that existence is nothing other than infinity limiting itself. How would you know something is limited, if you-yourself weren't capable of imagining the unlimited? That very possibility of imagination is the same as the potential energy that keeps creating and becoming the cosmos. Just think about it.

Investigation scam long time

Simply put, if I'm wrong I've spent a lifetime living a full life believing in something that has made me a better person. I die, you die. That's the end.

If you're wrong may God have mercy on your soul.

I always find it interesting that Atheists always want to debate. Why? If you believe there is nothing then spread that message. But deep down are you debating hoping to find a "crayon answer" to deep down what you already know is true. Jesus is the way.

Jesus is a way, not the way. You can't equate truth with Christian beliefs, most people in the history of mankind never even knew about Jesus, and even now, but they still try to do what is right for them and beneficial for others.

Yeah that's my biggest issue with christianity. I dont like the idea that I live in a world with a god who will punish you for not knowing about his son. Can't go with that I'm afraid..

If you're going with a looser definition of God, that would include a primordial force, such as described by unified field theory, that through its nature created and/or sustains the laws of physics, I find that concept easier to grasp than a personal, intelligent god that has a personality, intentions, and has always existed for no reason.

Most theists advocate for a personal god, or entity as you put it.

Indian mathematician Ramanujan whose complex advance equations were not understood until 50 years later, said they all came to him from his Indian Goddess diety while asleep.

He is not alone, as other prominent scientists, physicists, mathematicians, music composers, and many others have said similar. Who or what send those thoughts into their heads?

Who or what created us to be biological energy receivers and transmitters? And who or what are we in energy communications with?

God perhaps? Not the man in a white holy robe behind pearly gates up in the sky, but the confluence of intelligent benevolent multi-dimensional energy of unconditional love, compassion, and joy that exists in the smallest of small and the biggest of big. It is the Creative Source.

Our magnificent bodies are a marvel of advance engineering that evolution simply can never achieve. And we have far more abilities than what we have been told or conditioned to believe. Abilities that we now call extraordinary, but would be ordinary when humans move towards higher consciousness. Some scientists are discovering that consciousness is energy. What then is this fascinating energy.

This is not fantasy. There have always been some who are in a higher state of consciousness, with abilities that defy current accepted physics.

If Muslims are right, you're not scott free either. It's blasphemy to say Allah had a son, or took human form.

If Valhalla is real, you won't go there unless you die in battle.

It wouldn't be hard to improve the human body if I was all powerful. We choke to death constantly because we have one tube that leads to our lungs and stomach.

I don't think it's impossible for evolution to produce us.

Life is... What more can be said?

Build from there.

The only life you can absolutely prove to yourself is... yourself.

Beyond that it is all based how much you trust your own thoughts to arrive at any further conclusions.

10. If God exists, will you not lose your soul when you die?

"you" can not lose "your" soul, the spirit soul is the self.

The body will die.

Eternally with God

or eternally without God?


You don't spend your whole life wanting nothing to do with God

and then hope to be with God forever,

do you?

it's like the chem burn scene in fight club

MAYBE GOD JUST DOESN'T LIKE YOU

I mean, I sure don't.

You know what that means

You're correct. I didn't mention, Muslims, or Valhalla or any of the others because this post was about Atheists. Someone is right. Someone is wrong. I personally chose to believe Christianity is right. And yes, I do try to advance the gospel as it's our biblical mission to do so (most will consider this "having religion shoved down your throat".

When I was in college a long time ago and taking physics, I read Dr. Feynman's Lectures on Physics while destroying the grading curve for the rest of the class.

In his lectures, he described all of the current theories on gravity and how each one would fail in some way. I closed my eyes for a few minutes and tried to think of a way to explain gravity that would stand up to all of the tests he had applied. I came up with my own theory. Thinking about it over the years, It explains everything, including the little bit I disclosed.

I won the Physics award at that large university (which has conferred approx 900,000 degrees since it was founded), and was told that I had a better understanding of physics than anyone that had been in that school before. I went to one of the physics profs that was there at the time with the simple bit of theory that I had developed and he was kind of a jerk and said, "prove it". My reply was, "Dr. Feynman explained all of the theories and said that they were all readily disproven. So you disprove my theory". He didn't take me up on that.

Well, I wasn't majoring in Physics, just taking the required courses for my Chem E degree, and I make no apologies for being sort of lazy.

Since then, I continued to think about all of the unexplained phenomena and it explains everything I have thrown at it. I explained it in detail to a couple of work colleagues over the years that had ongoing physics interests and they pretty much agreed and said I needed to write it up and present it.

I am lazy, but if a group of the world'd top physicists, (if we even have anyone of Feynman's caliber anymore), want to get together for a day in front of a white board I would be happy to explain it all to them.

But people basically suck, especially when you explain some new idea to them, so not really going out of my way to disclose it.

The best way to explain the universe, is to imagine a huge, deep vat of jello. Now imagine that the jello is a compressible substance, rather than a mostly water in-compressible water based jell. Now put some masses in the jello model sort of like bits of fruit in a fancy jello creation. those are the planets etc. Now make them extremely dense compared to the jello.

Start that big mess to shimmying and watch the bits of fruit move around in their own way. Certain areas expand, others contract. It all just sits there oscillating internally.

Last Edited by JustmeTX on 10/12/2021 11:06 AM

Why should anyone debate you?
We already know you are an A$$!

Has the OP replied since the first post?
Must have been just a troll.

You are correct there is a large population that lived before Jesus that didn't know him. And yes, I too even sometimes wonder how that works into the big picture.

You are correct there is a large population that lived before Jesus that didn't know him. And yes, I too even sometimes wonder how that works into the big picture.

Sorry I had to sleep itand charge my iPad.
Right at the point of my conclusion versus yours.

I think you misunderstand my point.
A theist argument would not assume that the defacto position in the null hypothesis from an atheist point of view is correct BECAU
SE of the existence of the universe.
Hence my point... It's now been reduced to an onus game
So the question is ....
Is PURE atheism as irrational as Theism .....
As you already demonstrated in your own words. It is

So is Atheism any less a belief then Theism ?
I believe You demonstrated it is not

Fish in a bowl ....in a basement are not equipped to discuss astronomy without some belief ..

The atheist fish has its belief
The theist fish has his

By excepting the null hypothesis as valid in theistic debate , as rationale for FOUNDATIONAL arguments i.e. epistemological Justification , you actually prove my point.
It's been reduced to equal irrationality to both sides of the extremes , based on an onus game.

Please reconcile if, why , and how omnitheism is less rational than atheism ?

Last Edited by Nibiru*is*flat on 10/12/2021 11:48 AM

I was an atheist.

I found proof of God myself.
Or more accurately God led me to the understanding.

I can't explain the miraculous events to you because you would not believe them.

How do you understand the word Faith?
Probably the way I did: blind trust with no proof.

Now I understand the word Faith as optimism or confidence.

You can't achieve anything without faith*

I went through all of the new age beliefs and am very into the law of attraction.

It's too much to explain but God told me to go into a church to observe a service.
When I did I understood the message as simply: have faith or optimism and things work out.
This is how you can be "saved".
It doesn't matter what happens, I always have a positive outlook. I am blessed by the grace of God.

You must have this Faith because we are basically avatars for God (infinite energy) to experience life here on Earth.
God is not separate from you even if you don't believe it.

The statement is absurd.