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User ID: 80635939 Brazil 10/09/2021 11:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At the end of the day we can debate till we're blue in the face. I'm not going to convince you and you're not going to convince me. I just know I have this deep seeded intuition that tells me we were created and that there is a massive spiritual element to what's happening in this world that science could never ever even begin to explain. Cheers. That's the beauty of being an atheist! We are always trying to believe as many truth things as possible and as fewer false things as possible. And the key is evidence. With evidence, most atheists can believe anything. Which is not the case for "intuition". Intuition, feelings, faith, none of these are pathways to truth. One can justify anything through faith. One can just say "I believe it so". But contrary to what most people think, belief is not a choice. Belief is the state of being convinced something to be true or as close as possible to true. And having faith, although it is being convinced, lacks evidence, therefore, being convinced without evidence. If I tell you "I have a pet dragon", would just believe me without asking for any evidence at all? So if you have evidence of this "massive spiritual element", show us! We are more than glad to analyze it! MaybeTrollingUAgain |
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Petrus
User ID: 79563478 Canada 10/09/2021 11:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, I'm game for a bit... Answer these for me... 1. Do you really believe that science is the only answer to all of life's questions? 2. Why do atheists care if people worship God? 3. Can nothing create something? 4. How do you know God doesn't exist? 5. What is the origin of life? 6. Where does our morality come from? 7. If you had evidence of God, would you become a Christian? 8. If evolution is real, why are there no transitional forms in the present? 9. Do you live according to what you believe or do you live according to what you lack in belief? 10. If God exists, will you not lose your soul when you die? 1. No. 2. Most don't. 3. Yes, research quantum physics. 4. How do you know Odin doesn't exist? 5. Chemistry. 6. Social evolution over time. 7. No. 8. There are, everything is transitioning based on its environment. Evolution has been proven in the lab with organism like yeast that have thousands of generations in a few years. 9. I live according do unto others what you would have them do unto you. 10. No, because then god isn't a loving forgiving god. The problem with christians, is evolution is proven true, therefore Christianity is false. There was never and Adam and eve, therefore never original sin, therefore no need for the blood Magick sacrifice of jesus. That's nice sonny, because that's a commandment that Jesus (the Son of God) gave us to follow. |
Petrus
User ID: 79563478 Canada 10/09/2021 11:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At the end of the day we can debate till we're blue in the face. I'm not going to convince you and you're not going to convince me. I just know I have this deep seeded intuition that tells me we were created and that there is a massive spiritual element to what's happening in this world that science could never ever even begin to explain. Cheers. That's the beauty of being an atheist! We are always trying to believe as many truth things as possible and as fewer false things as possible. And the key is evidence. With evidence, most atheists can believe anything. Which is not the case for "intuition". Intuition, feelings, faith, none of these are pathways to truth. One can justify anything through faith. One can just say "I believe it so". But contrary to what most people think, belief is not a choice. Belief is the state of being convinced something to be true or as close as possible to true. And having faith, although it is being convinced, lacks evidence, therefore, being convinced without evidence. If I tell you "I have a pet dragon", would just believe me without asking for any evidence at all? So if you have evidence of this "massive spiritual element", show us! We are more than glad to analyze it! The Faith that I show, and many others,is evidence itself. |
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JUNOME
User ID: 79379204 United States 10/09/2021 11:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I remember as a young kid I used to go to retreats and cry my eyes out praying to God. I would imagine Jesus being tortured on the cross for my sins. Then when I turned 13, spent a full year to deprogram my mind. It took more than a year to undo what the church has placed in my mind. It was a hard period to go from God is everywhere to God in nowhere. When the deprogramming was complete, I became a hardcore, seriously hardcore, almost militant atheist. I believed the Church was responsible for keeping people's mind in jail. Also, I believed that the Church is creating more chaos, divide, and hatred than good. I believed that the Church was hindering human being's advancement in science as people were believing in fairy tales. I believed the Church had my family in some form of mind jail, which by chance they will never be freed from ever again. I tried everything to save them, but I felt like they were prisoners that loved the prison food and didn't want to leave. Later on, I found the Buddhist teachings and everything seems to make sense. The teaching is all there, hidden behind some stigma of westerners. Westerners have no idea the amount of advancement the Buddhist have obtained so far. The western mind is like a foolish child compared to some of the practiced Buddhist. It is all there but no one even peaks inside to take a look. Seriously no one even reads a single page about the Buddhists. The Buddhist are the most scientific in though process. For example, the Buddha told his followers to not take his word just because but rather to see it and conform for themselves. One day I heard some interpretations of the bible from the Buddhists I realized there is some deep deep meaning in the Bible as well. The bible also contain some very deep meaning and knowledge that should not be taken lightly. I'm sure, Jesus had very deep insight into mankind's follies and virtues. The Buddhists probably understand the Bible more than anyone from the Church. These foolish pastors are actors. They go to some 4 year bible college and they think they can teach people. Without experience, everything is just fancy guesses. I believe most of the Christian "teachers" are phonies. But I am back to respecting the Bible even more, but at the same time do not allow my mind to fall for propaganda like brainwashing strategies of some pastors. For example did you know that the bible hardly talks about a hell? But these pastors, priest, ministers uses "hell" to scare the shit out of you? They use the same tactics of the santa claus story for kids. Be bad and suffer, be good and get a treat. This type of teachings are for children and it keeps us stupid. This was just passed down from a time when the church members were non educated, illiterate peasants. Also took some Ayahuasca, and I realized that what we think we know is not everything. There is more than you can imagine. Real or not real, you will realize there is more. Your brain is capable to understand higher levels of understanding that will only make sense when your mind is opened. So all in all, it just boils down to this. What is "God"? Depending on what "God" is, it is not easy to say there is no God. Also to think that one can know what "God" is, is very arrogant and might seem foolish on some degree. Even the size of universe and the length of time that has been and will be. For a human mind to think that they can understand WTF is going on to determine that there is NO GOD seems a little unreasonable to me now. Also to believe God without knowing what God is, is somewhat foolish too as that is like believing in some fairy tale. Sorry for the long reply. "Joe Biden grandfathered a stripper's kid" (_._)Y(_._) "Donald J Trump was fucking right" [link to www.bitchute.com (secure)] "Don't eat anything that has a brain, and feels pain" [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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tamaracks User ID: 34769994 United States 10/09/2021 11:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At the end of the day we can debate till we're blue in the face. I'm not going to convince you and you're not going to convince me. I just know I have this deep seeded intuition that tells me we were created and that there is a massive spiritual element to what's happening in this world that science could never ever even begin to explain. Cheers. That's the beauty of being an atheist! We are always trying to believe as many truth things as possible and as fewer false things as possible. And the key is evidence. With evidence, most atheists can believe anything. Which is not the case for "intuition". Intuition, feelings, faith, none of these are pathways to truth. One can justify anything through faith. One can just say "I believe it so". But contrary to what most people think, belief is not a choice. Belief is the state of being convinced something to be true or as close as possible to true. And having faith, although it is being convinced, lacks evidence, therefore, being convinced without evidence. If I tell you "I have a pet dragon", would just believe me without asking for any evidence at all? So if you have evidence of this "massive spiritual element", show us! We are more than glad to analyze it! Oddly enough, the root of faith is fide. Fide = fidelity The greater the fidelity = the greater the truth. A high fidelity speaker produces the most accurate reproduction of a concert for instance. Fidelity has been a virtue throughout human history. |
Son of a Gunny
User ID: 9522184 United States 10/09/2021 11:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You must be young to say something dumb like that. Anyone who is over the age of 40 has lived long enough to have at least seen a Miracle or more that can’t be explained away by science. I had several doctors tell me after my Father had a massive heart attack and went 21min without Oxygen that he would never lead a normal life, that he could never have a mentality any higher than that of a dog. Only to see him wake from his coma 3 days later and leave ICU. Then 3 days after that walk and hold a conversation. And to finally walk out of the Hospital 3 days later. He lived another 14years. He did have some short term memory loss, but he was otherwise normal and lead a happy life and was able to work for 10yrs. |
A Jackson
User ID: 80925742 United States 10/10/2021 12:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As C.S. Lewis said in "Mere Christianity" - Quoting: Seventh son In order to disbelieve something, you must first acknowledge that it exists. Or something like that... So Santa and the Easter Bunny exist? Smoke me a kipper, I’ll be back for breakfast. If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools. — Plato “AI is kind of a fancy thing, first of all it’s two letters. It means artificial intelligence.” Kamala Harris VPOTUS |
JUNOME
User ID: 79379204 United States 10/10/2021 12:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, I'm game for a bit... Answer these for me... THIS IS MY TAKE ON THE QUESTIONS: 1. Do you really believe that science is the only answer to all of life's questions? The scientific method is the best way so far to get closer to the truth. Although there are many logical error along the way, but it can be resolved. although these days the scientific method has been tainted by greed / money. If God exists, the only way to know is through the scientific method. 2. Why do atheists care if people worship God? Do we keep the kid believing in Santa Claus their whole lives? Wouldn't this be a hinderance for the kid? Adults think that they know better, but they believe in the same exact way. Just because more people believe it, they assume its true. For some reason keeping people's mind in this state causes irrational fears, irrational beliefs of "devils", irrational belief that other people are more of the "devil" type, irrational belief that God allow the slaughter of certain types of people. I remember hearing about Billy Graham's suggestion to Nixon on the strategies of war in Vietnam, Nixon ended up not taking Graham's suggestion as it would cause a little too much deaths. 3. Can nothing create something? Who said there was a time with nothing? 4. How do you know God doesn't exist? No way to be sure, but so far there is absolutely ZERO proof anywhere. There is not a single person ever that was able to prove it in any scientific way. Everything was anecdotal. This anecdotal belief system kept Bigfoot story alive even till this day. People believed in Ghosts, until now. And with billions of phones with Camera's not a single photo anywhere. 5. What is the origin of life? As of now, scientists are able to start very rudimental life forms in the lab. Also, who knows. 6. Where does our morality come from? Morality is just community agreement to reduce utter chaos. Some people believe that they have morality, but that is empathy. Humans are capable of picturing themselves in other people's shoes. When people watch movies and cry, you cry because the brain thinks you are in the situation. For some reason we are programmed this way. Its some strategy in the game of evolution. 7. If you had evidence of God, would you become a Christian? Everyone so far became Christians with no proof. The main strategy of Christians is to convince people that "Blind Faith" is the highest form of love for God. And yes, if there is evidence, why would anyone chose to be atheist? The sun is real, is there anyone who denies the sun? 8. If evolution is real, why are there no transitional forms in the present? Transition is occurring right in front of our eyes everywhere. Every single living thing is mutating. Every generation there is change (minus a few animals that makes near perfect copies of themselves) You can see live the transitions of bacteria, virus. The smallest have fastest transition as they can replicate themselves rapidly and in quantity. If humans can breed that fast and in that quantity, it would be more obvious. Every living thing can be traced back with their DNA. Did you know we are related to the Oak Tree? We share DNA with every single living thing on earth. 9. Do you live according to what you believe or do you live according to what you lack in belief? Everyone is selfish. Helping others is selfish. Everything fall into this reasoning. For example a human is nearly incapable of any action that does not somehow benefit themselves. One time Abraham Lincoln stopped his carriage to help a pig and her babies stuck in mud. Got his suit and shoes all dirty. When asked why he did that, he said that it would have bothered him all day if he hadn't. 10. If God exists, will you not lose your soul when you die? What if there is a soul and no God? Why do you have to believe exactly what you are told to believe? Have you confirmed yourself? Or did the person who told you confirmed themselves? For many generations, no one is confirming and just relaying what they heard. Even this is mutating rapidly. We have 10's of thousands of Christian denominations. Everyone has their own take. Everyone is differing because no one is confirming. Somehow we have Jesus in America. "Joe Biden grandfathered a stripper's kid" (_._)Y(_._) "Donald J Trump was fucking right" [link to www.bitchute.com (secure)] "Don't eat anything that has a brain, and feels pain" [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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A Jackson
User ID: 80925742 United States 10/10/2021 12:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, I'm game for a bit... Answer these for me... 1. Do you really believe that science is the only answer to all of life's questions? 2. Why do atheists care if people worship God? 3. Can nothing create something? 4. How do you know God doesn't exist? 5. What is the origin of life? 6. Where does our morality come from? 7. If you had evidence of God, would you become a Christian? 8. If evolution is real, why are there no transitional forms in the present? 9. Do you live according to what you believe or do you live according to what you lack in belief? 10. If God exists, will you not lose your soul when you die? I’m game. 1. Do you really believe that science is the only answer to all of life's questions? No, but it explains everything logically and without magic. 2. Why do atheists care if people worship God? They don’t. Don’t confuse atheists with fascist retards. 3. Can nothing create something? Yes, it happens all the time. Really. 4. How do you know God doesn't exist? There is no evidence of any god, but no one can know if an omniscient invisible all knowing being exists. Even you. A god like that would be very clever, don’t you think? You have the logic backwards, you have to prove that something does in fact exist. 5. What is the origin of life? No one knows for sure. It probably wasn’t due to magic. 6. Where does our morality come from? Law. Tens of thousands of years of pack and tribal morality, recorded in sacred texts, keeping laws that work and removing those that don’t. Why do different peoples across the globe have different morals, even among Christian populations? Why are our morals different than those of Jesus’ time even among Christians? 7. If you had evidence of God, would you become a Christian? No, Christianity would at that time become irrelevant. 8. If evolution is real, why are there no transitional forms in the present? There are. Are you really this ignorant? Explain the platypus. 9. Do you live according to what you believe or do you live according to what you lack in belief? Neither, I think. I reason each situation based on facts and knowledge, not doctrine. 10. If God exists, will you not lose your soul when you die? Souls are spiritual not physical, and as such cannot be lost. Your soul is forever. I must ask, why are you obsessed with souls and hell? Hell isn’t in the Bible, it was, as a concept, created after the Bible. Also, don’t you want to live your life to the best you can, not to what some council wrote 300 years after Jesus died? Don’t get me wrong, the Bible is a great source of knowledge and guidance, but it is not in any way literal. It is the truth, but it is not word for word literal. There are other artistic tools used by the authors of the Bible, unfortunately fundamentalists are too dumb and ignorant to understand literal devices and styles. Smoke me a kipper, I’ll be back for breakfast. If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools. — Plato “AI is kind of a fancy thing, first of all it’s two letters. It means artificial intelligence.” Kamala Harris VPOTUS |
The Rickest Rick Sanchez
User ID: 80979140 United States 10/10/2021 12:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't believe OP exists. Poof. The universe is basically an animal. It grazes on the ordinary. It creates infinite idiots just to eat them. The Rickest Rick Sanchez comments are meant for entertainment purposes only and should not be construed to reflect the feelings and opinions, implied or expressed, of the author. |
A Jackson
User ID: 80925742 United States 10/10/2021 12:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks OP, for some fun. Smoke me a kipper, I’ll be back for breakfast. If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools. — Plato “AI is kind of a fancy thing, first of all it’s two letters. It means artificial intelligence.” Kamala Harris VPOTUS |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79281006 United States 10/10/2021 02:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, I'm game for a bit... Answer these for me... 1. Do you really believe that science is the only answer to all of life's questions? 2. Why do atheists care if people worship God? 3. Can nothing create something? 4. How do you know God doesn't exist? 5. What is the origin of life? 6. Where does our morality come from? 7. If you had evidence of God, would you become a Christian? 8. If evolution is real, why are there no transitional forms in the present? 9. Do you live according to what you believe or do you live according to what you lack in belief? 10. If God exists, will you not lose your soul when you die? 1. No. 2. Most don't. 3. Yes, research quantum physics. 4. How do you know Odin doesn't exist? 5. Chemistry. 6. Social evolution over time. 7. No. 8. There are, everything is transitioning based on its environment. Evolution has been proven in the lab with organism like yeast that have thousands of generations in a few years. 9. I live according do unto others what you would have them do unto you. 10. No, because then god isn't a loving forgiving god. The problem with christians, is evolution is proven true, therefore Christianity is false. There was never and Adam and eve, therefore never original sin, therefore no need for the blood Magick sacrifice of jesus. 3. wrong 5. wrong Sorry dude but your wrong. Your opinions aren't scientific facts. Opinions are like assholes. Everybody's got one, but don't nobody wanna see yours. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79419584 United Kingdom 10/10/2021 03:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, I'm game for a bit... Answer these for me... 1. Do you really believe that science is the only answer to all of life's questions? 2. Why do atheists care if people worship God? 3. Can nothing create something? 4. How do you know God doesn't exist? 5. What is the origin of life? 6. Where does our morality come from? 7. If you had evidence of God, would you become a Christian? 8. If evolution is real, why are there no transitional forms in the present? 9. Do you live according to what you believe or do you live according to what you lack in belief? 10. If God exists, will you not lose your soul when you die? I'm not a Christian but not an atheist either, let me answer your questions. 1. No, science doesn't even scracth the surface, and neither does religion. 2. Political reasons. 3. Yes, nothing is unstable, so it is bound to become something. 4. Problem of evil. 5. Life is an origin unto itself. 6. Life itself, the soul. 7. No. 8. Every form is transitional, the problem is you don't understand evolutionary biology, genotypes, phenotypes, etc. 9. I live according to logic and common sense. 10. There is no your soul, the soul cannot be owned by individuals. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80785510 Australia 10/10/2021 03:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1. Do you really believe that science is the only answer to all of life's questions? This question makes no sense. Science is not an answer, it is a method that generates answers. The best method that humans have. 2. Why do atheists care if people worship God? There are multiple reasons. Atheists have historically been jailed, persecuted and killed by religious people. You can still be executed for being an atheist in many countries, and even in America, it's illegal for an atheist to hold office. 3. Can nothing create something? Nothing is the absence of things. The statement 'nothing can create something' is synonymous with saying 'there isn't anything that can create something.' So to answer your question, no, there are many things can create something. 4. How do you know God doesn't exist? I don't know with absolute certainty. This applies to all gods. Do you know that Odin, Zeus, Horus and fairies don't exist? 5. What is the origin of life? Don't know. Inductive reasoning would suggest that a Natural explanation is more likely than a supernatural one. 6. Where does our morality come from? ultimately, people. 7. If you had evidence of God, would you become a Christian? Christianity is not the only religion that says a god exists. Depending on the evidence, I might become a muslim, or something else. 8. If evolution is real, why are there no transitional forms in the present? There are. 9. Do you live according to what you believe or do you live according to what you lack in belief? Both. Same as you. 10. If God exists, will you not lose your soul when you die? Depends which sect of which religion is true. |
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