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What should the government do with the vaccinated superspreaders who are creating the variants?

 
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What should the government do with the vaccinated superspreaders who are creating the variants?
it needs to be humane

this was almost over until the vaccination campaign started.

then the numbers went way up again

this happened during the spanish flu...the whole thing was almost over and then they vaccinated too early, variants happened, and the second wave was much worse

Dr. Fauci even wrote a paper about it that you don't vaccinate in the middle of a pandemic.

so with that all aside

i suggest a a couple months quarantine on the vaccinated, and lots of viral testing so we can measure the viral loads, and how much they are really shedding..

we know they freely admit people who get flu shots shed after the first few days...although they don't give a lot of quantitative data on it..

mainly because it wouldn't be in big pharma's interest to do any studies and the flu shots are already approved by the FDA fully.

but in this case, since it is an emergency...i think quarantine and the collecting of some quantative data, not qualitative conjecture like most of the CDC and WHO and NIH are doing is performed.

so we can figure out how long the vaccinated need to be quarantined and how much they are spreading it around to low risk groups like their own children

this is good science.

and needs to be considered in a humane way

let's get back to doing real science and finding the real root causes and in this case we see an undeniable statistical trend that the delta wave happened after the vaccination campaigns and spiked highest in those areas where it never existed before..

let's stop this even if it is uncomfortable for a few who have already gotten vaccinated...

with their help, we can figure this out.

we are all after all, in this together

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Re: What should the government do with the vaccinated superspreaders who are creating the variants?
ok i'll go first i think the vaccinated who are superspreaders because of their high viral load and are basically machines creating the variants should probably be put up in a hotel and studied for a few months

until we fully understand what the mechanism is and how they have made this thing worse (no fault of their own, they believed the MSM and in this case they make a great control as they have no bias on the experiment) so that like back in the spanish flu days when this happened already, we don't have a third time in the near future..

this might help us get a grasp on in the future when the appropriate time is to call upon the antibody system that vaccines rely upon instead of jumping the gun, and loading up people prematurely..

this will save a lot of grief and heartbreak in the future, as this thing was almost over until they started to push the vaccines, which made things much much worse.

i mean look at israel and singapore;..super low rates, once the vaccination started, we had new variants and things went south...when we could have gone back to normal almost by now.

not the vaccinated people's fault...really bad science on those who should know better that this would just prolong and make this worse and put even perfectly healthy peopole at risk due to the incessant and dangerous shedding from the prematurely vaccinated

science still has a long way to go!

we are all in this together

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Re: What should the government do with the vaccinated superspreaders who are creating the variants?
There's no evidence that the vaccines were responsible for the variants or that the vaccinated are superspreaders.
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Re: What should the government do with the vaccinated superspreaders who are creating the variants?
mask em up and task em up
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Re: What should the government do with the vaccinated superspreaders who are creating the variants?
There's no evidence that the vaccines were responsible for the variants or that the vaccinated are superspreaders.
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it's basic evolutionary biology.
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Re: What should the government do with the vaccinated superspreaders who are creating the variants?
There's no evidence that the vaccines were responsible for the variants or that the vaccinated are superspreaders.
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there is some compelling evidence that actually this is the case...and in the name of science this needs to be further investigated...if we just dismiss the statistcal trends because we 'i don't think so' this makes science no more than a carnival game ...

if you examine the countries with the highest rates of vaccination and the emergence of the delta virus, statistcally data does indicate that there is a high probability that this was caused by premature vaccination on the part of the scientific community and might have made things much worse.

not too mention the data coming out that children who were pretty much extremely low risk are now suddenly getting the variants which implies a mutation..these all occured right at the height of the vaccination campaigns and although causation doesn't necessarily prove the point, it needs to be examined from an objective and stable group set.

it still needs to be examined so we can further cause any more surges and stuff.

i stand by my original proposal of quarantine of the vaccinated for a few months so we can develop a proper baseline and then the data should speak for itself

we are all in this together

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There's no evidence that the vaccines were responsible for the variants or that the vaccinated are superspreaders.
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Lock em up and throw away the key!
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Re: What should the government do with the vaccinated superspreaders who are creating the variants?
it needs to be humane

this was almost over until the vaccination campaign started.

then the numbers went way up again

this happened during the spanish flu...the whole thing was almost over and then they vaccinated too early, variants happened, and the second wave was much worse

Dr. Fauci even wrote a paper about it that you don't vaccinate in the middle of a pandemic.

so with that all aside

i suggest a a couple months quarantine on the vaccinated, and lots of viral testing so we can measure the viral loads, and how much they are really shedding..

we know they freely admit people who get flu shots shed after the first few days...although they don't give a lot of quantitative data on it..

mainly because it wouldn't be in big pharma's interest to do any studies and the flu shots are already approved by the FDA fully.

but in this case, since it is an emergency...i think quarantine and the collecting of some quantative data, not qualitative conjecture like most of the CDC and WHO and NIH are doing is performed.

so we can figure out how long the vaccinated need to be quarantined and how much they are spreading it around to low risk groups like their own children

this is good science.

and needs to be considered in a humane way

let's get back to doing real science and finding the real root causes and in this case we see an undeniable statistical trend that the delta wave happened after the vaccination campaigns and spiked highest in those areas where it never existed before..

let's stop this even if it is uncomfortable for a few who have already gotten vaccinated...

with their help, we can figure this out.

we are all after all, in this together
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Send them to Australia, we need some token kangaroos for taco Tuesday.
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Re: What should the government do with the vaccinated superspreaders who are creating the variants?
so us as a global community can finally get the wrap on how Covid works and what is causing the variants, i humbly propose a quarantine on those who are vaccinated, and those who are still unvaccinated for a few months will be the control group by going to events and all the other stuff that is currently being restricted from them.

this is good science and creates a secondary study where the variables are reversed proportionately

so that we can flesh out what really occured earlier this year, when cases were way down, but then went way up, especially in the most highly vaccinated regions/countries...

using both statistics and isolate of the subjects we can probably get a working model of what happened this year with twice the amount of deaths, even though covid was in the decline earlier this year..

i hope everyone will cooperate but for now we might need to propose a No-VAX passport for some areas, until we can properly manage the contact tracing of the vaccinated superspreaders

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But wait, the government officials and scientists say the vaccinated cannot catch or spread covid? Why do we need to do anything to the vaccinated? The officials assure us it’s the unvaccinated that are the threat to humanity and need to be arrested and held in quarantine camps unless the submit…
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Re: What should the government do with the vaccinated superspreaders who are creating the variants?
bump this is important and good science and needs to discussed

that way we have a full data set of different variables being changed appropriately to narrow down the outliers in the subset!

lets kick covid's ass and we're all in this together
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Re: What should the government do with the vaccinated superspreaders who are creating the variants?
bump

no one wants to have a good discussion...they just want to name call?

i think my proposal is fair and balanced
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Re: What should the government do with the vaccinated superspreaders who are creating the variants?
There's no evidence that the vaccines were responsible for the variants or that the vaccinated are superspreaders.
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there is some compelling evidence that actually this is the case...and in the name of science this needs to be further investigated...if we just dismiss the statistcal trends because we 'i don't think so' this makes science no more than a carnival game ...

if you examine the countries with the highest rates of vaccination and the emergence of the delta virus, statistcally data does indicate that there is a high probability that this was caused by premature vaccination on the part of the scientific community and might have made things much worse.

not too mention the data coming out that children who were pretty much extremely low risk are now suddenly getting the variants which implies a mutation..these all occured right at the height of the vaccination campaigns and although causation doesn't necessarily prove the point, it needs to be examined from an objective and stable group set.

it still needs to be examined so we can further cause any more surges and stuff.

i stand by my original proposal of quarantine of the vaccinated for a few months so we can develop a proper baseline and then the data should speak for itself

we are all in this together
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Delta existed before the vaccination campaigns began in those countries.
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Re: What should the government do with the vaccinated superspreaders who are creating the variants?
With altered genes the vaccinated are no longer mankind and certain laws no longer apply. Does an eggplant have human rights? If an eggplant caused danger or even the slightest chance of danger to others, would a round up and disposal of a batch or sub-species of egg plants be unlawful?

This may sound hard and cold, but those who opted not to participate in dangerous experiments and researched risks should not be endangered by those foolish enough to partake.

I nominate a large pit somewhere out in the woods. Dump them in there. Rain and dew will take care of their water needs. Food can be tossed in by guards when seems appropriate. Guards should have a megaphone on hand and repeat "Trust the science" every hour to ensure the GMO mutants realize this is being done for their safety and everyone else's.
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Re: What should the government do with the vaccinated superspreaders who are creating the variants?
There's no evidence that the vaccines were responsible for the variants or that the vaccinated are superspreaders.
 Quoting: Bullsh!t


there is some compelling evidence that actually this is the case...and in the name of science this needs to be further investigated...if we just dismiss the statistcal trends because we 'i don't think so' this makes science no more than a carnival game ...

if you examine the countries with the highest rates of vaccination and the emergence of the delta virus, statistcally data does indicate that there is a high probability that this was caused by premature vaccination on the part of the scientific community and might have made things much worse.

not too mention the data coming out that children who were pretty much extremely low risk are now suddenly getting the variants which implies a mutation..these all occured right at the height of the vaccination campaigns and although causation doesn't necessarily prove the point, it needs to be examined from an objective and stable group set.

it still needs to be examined so we can further cause any more surges and stuff.

i stand by my original proposal of quarantine of the vaccinated for a few months so we can develop a proper baseline and then the data should speak for itself

we are all in this together
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Delta existed before the vaccination campaigns began in those countries.
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first delta variant case detected in october 2020 in India
then in may 2021 several other countries
it fits the jab timeline well
moral reasoning takes about 250 miliseconds
we make errors in between
perception->relation->behaviour
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