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Message Subject what if the way to go forward is...
Poster Handle Questioning369
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He is not wrong that is for sure. The answer certainly is not a top down solution, sorry OP. I have been banging the parallel structure idea because I am not sure what other solution we have then to create a better and more attractive alternative. Unfortunately the idea gets very little traction, even in a forum like this. Trying to discuss the idea in the Q thread, thinking these appear to be people who care, maybe they might discuss it because the idea is not antithetical to Q, gets me completely attacked. It is absolutely mind blowing to me. I am unsure how we over come the apathy and normalcy bias that is present here much less in normie land, it is rather a depressing thought.

Thread: Parallel Structures
 Quoting: Questioning369


dude how on earth did you read what i proposed as top-down solution? :)

it's bottom up all the way
 Quoting: VenusRose


what if the way to go forward is...
to tackle tptb and globalist at global level?
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You are asking should we be solving a global crisis with a global solution by having 100's of millions come together to agree on a world wide constitution. That seems pretty top-down to me.

Personally I have had a hard time proposing a bottom up like solution, I cant imagine how you would be able to go about fixing a global problem via a global solution. Who exactly will you be petitioning anyways? When did even our petitions in the US ever make a difference?

I appreciate your thought processes and wanting to make change for the better, I am unsure of the theory. I wish you luck none the less.
 Quoting: Questioning369


also you focus too much on the possible difference (which might not be in fact)

i'll look later into your paralel structures idea.

but till the think about it in this way.

let's say parallel structures is the way to gom and is the best idea.

question is who do you bring it about, how do you get humanity onboard to make that system as the new way.

you'll still need a form of what i'm speaking about to legitimize and bring about that new system
 Quoting: VenusRose


Parallel structures is not my idea, it was coined as far as I know by Vaclav Havel but I first came across it reading Hello Stupid by A.L. Kitselman. In it he suggested a government of the wise run on computers, written in 1962. He suggested, much better than I ever could, that anywhere a vote might currently be taken, such as a business, social club, etc could be where the idea is implemented.

Personally I see the idea also in the Ubuntu movement which is not so much focused on the governing aspect. However, a governing form of parallel structure such as suggested by Kitselman and Havel may be very synergistic or complimentary of the Ubuntu movement.

The person who introduced the Ubuntu movement to me here on GLP is mia, I have been hoping to talk to him more about Ubuntu, does he know Michael Tellinger personally? Where is the movement now, how is it working, etc. Would it be wise to reach out to them about Havel and Kitselman's parallel structures? Alas, like I said he is mia so pursuing that is in limbo for me.

Is it the solution? I dont know, I sure think it deserves to be discussed in depth considering what we are facing and up against. I do not see it as an immediate fix, however if coupled with a spiritual movement, which could be more effective in the immediate future considering the potential in prayer and mind over matter or field sciences, I think there is real hope.

I also am not saying you idea does not have merit, it does. I am just expressing how difficult it has been discussing a way to give people back their own power much less doing so on a global level.
 
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