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Its an interesting concept. In his book he sort of takes a shot at the one vote for one man principal we currently have. He points out that with this method, we only ever would get slightly better than average leadership. Which of course really isnt addressing the fact that we really dont know for how long elections such as we have here in the states have been fraudulent.

His suggestion was to answer the question, what is wise in everything? From there, I can only surmise we would be doing this to identify those who are the wisest among us and somehow create a voting system that gives a little more voting power to these individuals. I cant help consider tribal politics, how the shaman and elders would have been spiritual and probably policy leaders while the chief would be the enforcer.

Except with this idea, everyone could have a say directly in any and every issue PLUS there would be a format to follow as to how to attain the full vote, thus potentially creating something that more resembles a true democracy than what we have now while honoring wisdom. I almost see it as a Akashic record sort of thing that would continually evolve. It would require extreme transparency I imagine, which might be a good thing right about now.
 Quoting: Questioning369


yup.

you can fine tune it even more.

because you actually don't want people to know how much they are weighted, cause then you ll have the risk of people buying out or trying to influence those with bigger weight.

so you can actually have the weighting algo inside a black box so you actually have no clue how much weight your vote will have, but in the black box the wise will weight more.

and blockchain will safe guard that black box inside it making sure no one can manipulate the algo
 Quoting: VenusRose


Interesting, I always considered compassion and service to others two be two additions to Kitselman's idea that I would make. In essence, I would be looking to flip the script of what we currently have of a service to self and materialistic focused societies.

I am not sure how I feel about the weighting being hidden. I mean, that sort of seems like part of our current problem to me. Right now, we hide out votes right? Its proven that they can simply come in behind and do whatever they want to them with no redress. Who would be in control of the algorithm in a hidden, weighted system? I always thought whatever system something like this might be run on should be open sourced and taught to all so that we would all have the ability to police it as well as track who was tampering with it. Not sure if this is the best idea or even possible, it is just where my imagination leads to.
 Quoting: Questioning369


yes you would have it open source and safe guarded through blockchain.

think of the weighting algo as a neural net algo.

all the inputs go in and the output is processed by the neural net and in the process it adjusts and will weight the inputs.

but you don't need to know the weights, you just need to know that no one can tamper with them.

you can check zero knowledge proof

it s a way to prove you have an info without disclosing that info.

like you can prove to the policeman you have a valid driving license without any need for you to give him any info beside that. no need to give your name or address or anything.

the system would just send him the proof you do have a valid license.

this way in blockchain you can own all your data and only offer proofs for specific things to autorithies. and there would be no state agency holding any of your data whatsoever on their servers
 Quoting: VenusRose


Interesting, I must admit to my ignorance of block chain. Has it been totally verified that it has not connection whatsoever to any form of current government entity? I always considered the weighted score to resemble a chess rating based on peer review. In a simpler thought on this, I would revert back to a scale of up to 9, with 9 being considered the wisest and a full vote.

Kitselman never fleshed the whole thing out. It was written in the Socratic format and I encourage all to buy a copy and read it. Kitselman was reported to have upwards of 180+Iq from some testing methods. He was a shaman, mathematician as well as therapist. He was the running buddy of T.T. Brown of the Biefeld-Brown effect, among others. For the last twelve years I have been beating this drum as it seems evident this idea was meant for us today as we would have the computing power and technology to help manifest it.

[link to www.kitselman.com]

Speaking of manifestation, his E-therapy looks super interesting and been on my radar forever.
 
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