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Message Subject what if the way to go forward is...
Poster Handle VenusRose
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yup.

you can fine tune it even more.

because you actually don't want people to know how much they are weighted, cause then you ll have the risk of people buying out or trying to influence those with bigger weight.

so you can actually have the weighting algo inside a black box so you actually have no clue how much weight your vote will have, but in the black box the wise will weight more.

and blockchain will safe guard that black box inside it making sure no one can manipulate the algo
 Quoting: VenusRose


Interesting, I always considered compassion and service to others two be two additions to Kitselman's idea that I would make. In essence, I would be looking to flip the script of what we currently have of a service to self and materialistic focused societies.

I am not sure how I feel about the weighting being hidden. I mean, that sort of seems like part of our current problem to me. Right now, we hide out votes right? Its proven that they can simply come in behind and do whatever they want to them with no redress. Who would be in control of the algorithm in a hidden, weighted system? I always thought whatever system something like this might be run on should be open sourced and taught to all so that we would all have the ability to police it as well as track who was tampering with it. Not sure if this is the best idea or even possible, it is just where my imagination leads to.
 Quoting: Questioning369


yes you would have it open source and safe guarded through blockchain.

think of the weighting algo as a neural net algo.

all the inputs go in and the output is processed by the neural net and in the process it adjusts and will weight the inputs.

but you don't need to know the weights, you just need to know that no one can tamper with them.

you can check zero knowledge proof

it s a way to prove you have an info without disclosing that info.

like you can prove to the policeman you have a valid driving license without any need for you to give him any info beside that. no need to give your name or address or anything.

the system would just send him the proof you do have a valid license.

this way in blockchain you can own all your data and only offer proofs for specific things to autorithies. and there would be no state agency holding any of your data whatsoever on their servers
 Quoting: VenusRose


Interesting, I must admit to my ignorance of block chain. has it been totally verified that it has not connection whatsoever to any form of current government entity?

I always considered the weighted score to resemble a chess rating based on peer review.
 Quoting: Questioning369


blockchain is just a form of distributed ledger.

imagine we are a society of 100 members. and each one of us keep tracks of all our transaction in a ledger

so we have 100 ledgers each keeping the same history of transaction.

each time a transaction is made we write it in our ledgers and also the witnesses write it in theirs and then it's updated in all of them.

so if i want to forge a transaction i would need to get a hold of the majority of ledgers (actually is proven that can be done with just 1/3 rd) so i d need to convince the majority to also forge the transaction. which is much harder to do than now when the agency decides and forges the data and that s it.

also say at some point there is a transaction on which there is a big disagreement. 70 agree with it, 30 do not.

what happens in blockchain is that there is a secession. which is called a 'hard fork'

the 70 will keep one line of history, the other 30 will keep their own version and each continues along their path.


to exemplify with voting, say when i cast my vote i also record it in my ledger, so after i can always verify if the vote was recorded as i voted.

so even if someone would change it, i could cross-check and have the proof that my vote was changed
 
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