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To worship God causes only separation from Him

 
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Is that what you want? to be separate from God .. . For purposes of this thread, assume that God is the Eternal One, the Creator of all... the one Source.

Who wants to be separate from God? When you worship, you are separating yourself from God, by placing "him" in a place higher than yourself. You place a distance between you and "him."

While this applies to any and all religions, I'll focus on the book I am most familiar with.... and in that book, Yahshua says do not look for the Kingdom outside of yourself, for you can find it only within.

And in that book, does Yahshua ever say to worship either the Father or Himself? No.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


We are of the same mindset .

I also believe this is a state of mind that must be learned , and some fancy mnemonics's, or invocation is a generic and shamefully shallow substitute ...living a good life, showing the ideals in behavior that you wish to aspire to takes work , intraspection , meditation, and self awareness .

Praying to Jesus on Sunday does not make you a good person necessarily.

And imho does not grant someone a magic VIP pass.

Then again Indont believe in eternal hell either ..unless you want to be there ( in some form )

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EXACTLY AS I THOUGHT, THIS YASHUA DUDE AGAIN!

OP... GO SEEK "ELOHIM" OR AS A MORMON.
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Worshipping God is a very natural thing that everyone does once they discover /remember how powerful God really is.
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How do you worship someone you do not know?
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You can't. You can only perform traditional rituals pleasing to the eyes of others and yourself.
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God can be your brother. He can also be God Almighty. It depends on the situation.

You wouldn't want to worship your buddy, right? That would be weird.

You worship God Almighty when He shows as such.

But as a person posts: How can you worship Him if you don't know Him? Answer: You can't. This is the problem that the Op has.

But easily remedied... Ask God to show Himself to you... to speak to you.

Be honest and ask Him stuff. If you are an atheist, then read the bolded part below (header: If you don't believe in God).... For all others: You are probably speaking regularly to God, right? Then ask God to reply. Daddies love to talk to their kids. Have a regular conversation with Him.

"Jesus Loves You"... "If you don't believe me, ask Him".

Say these things to the Most High God:

- "In case I'm not Your child, then please make me Your child".
- "Show Yourself to me" "I want to know you God..."
- "I want to know You God... not just from my head.. but from my heart".
- "I don't know what's coming down the road, but You do. Please prepare my heart, so that when it
comes, I will be ready".

For example - try one of these straightforward approaches on for size:
- If you don't believe in God, say to God: God- I do Not believe that You exist. But if you do
truly exist, please show Yourself to me...
- If you think that there might be a God, but you're not sure, pray/say: I think that there
might be a God, but I'm not sure. God, if You exist, then please show me that you are there - so that I
know For Sure.
- If you believe in God, but not in Jesus, say: God- I believe that You exist.... Show me
the Way to You. I want to get to know You better. If I'm not Your child, then make me Your child.
- If you believe in God and Jesus, pray/say: Jesus, please get my heart ready... so when
you come back, I am ready for You.

- And you know this, but saying: Oh God help me, Oh God help me - 100x out of desperation is not the same thing.... Specific requests / words will prompt specific responses. Just ask respectfully... like you are the creation, and He is the Creator....
- So if God - is God, then after asking respectfully, you Will get an answer. But if you don't get one, then obviously - God is not God, and you lost nothing by asking.
- Just make sure that you ask God- the Most High. (This works for Muslims as well). No cheap substitute will do. You do this by simply saying so... "I am talking to the Most High God"... then whatever saying you want to use from above. And ask God sincerely / humbly.. not like you are God, and God is a dog that needs to jump through a hula-hoop... or with a preconceived answer in mind of what God will say. More like I mentioned above: like God is the Creator, and we are the creation. To put it another way, ask the way that you would want to hear it: If you are God, and someone was asking if you exist...

.. .. ..
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I’ve struggled with this idea of worship myself. However, it’s a requirement to be United with him. There are dozens of Bible verses in the old and New Testament commanding us to worship Him.

Questions like: why would he create us to be worship slaves etc…? Are irrelevant.

He did and his wisdom is beyond our understanding. Something like an ant trying to understand an iPhone.

He created us with free will knowing full well that without him we would be finished quickly. He is many levels above us cosmically speaking, and worship is the only way for us to communicate with him, Dogs try to communicate with you by bringing you things and pleasing you. It’s like that on a cosmic scale.

The primary satanic ploy is trying to get people to believe we can be god or his equal. Manifest this and that. Bullshit. This is how the serpent tricked eve.

The reality is, we are separated from Him by sin. We are not his equal and we are not one with him. Inviting the holy spirit to live inside you is the only way to connected with him. And that’s done through worship and accepting Jesus Christ. Once you feel His power guiding you and helping you, you will know the truth.
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I’ve struggled with this idea of worship myself. However, it’s a requirement to be United with him. There are dozens of Bible verses in the old and New Testament commanding us to worship Him.

Questions like: why would he create us to be worship slaves etc…? Are irrelevant.

He did and his wisdom is beyond our understanding. Something like an ant trying to understand an iPhone.

He created us with free will knowing full well that without him we would be finished quickly. He is many levels above us cosmically speaking, and worship is the only way for us to communicate with him, Dogs try to communicate with you by bringing you things and pleasing you. It’s like that on a cosmic scale.

The primary satanic ploy is trying to get people to believe we can be god or his equal. Manifest this and that. Bullshit. This is how the serpent tricked eve.

The reality is, we are separated from Him by sin. We are not his equal and we are not one with him. Inviting the holy spirit to live inside you is the only way to connected with him. And that’s done through worship and accepting Jesus Christ. Once you feel His power guiding you and helping you, you will know the truth.
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Me?, you know I love the Lord my God with all my heart, all my mind and all my soul, don't ya?.

Have you not forgotten your spiritual brotherly love?, for love is what we are.. did you just blushed?.

But I didn't ask you to take your clothes off..

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And one of them, a doctor of the law, questioned him, to test him:

“Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the law?”

Jesus said to him: “ ‘You shall love the Lord your God from all your heart, and with all your soul and with all your mind.’

This is the greatest and first commandment.

But the second is similar to it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’

On these two commandments the entire law depends, and also the prophets.” - Matthew 22:35-40
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Yep, the kingdom is within and we are quantumly entagled with Yahweh.
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OP’s brain is dead guys. Just think about the title for one second and that much becomes obvious lol
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So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast;
and they worshiped the beast, saying, "Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?"

And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue for forty-two months.

Then he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven.

It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation.

All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

If anyone has an ear, let him hear.



Revelation 13:4-9

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Is that what you want? to be separate from God .. . For purposes of this thread, assume that God is the Eternal One, the Creator of all... the one Source.

Who wants to be separate from God? When you worship, you are separating yourself from God, by placing "him" in a place higher than yourself. You place a distance between you and "him."

While this applies to any and all religions, I'll focus on the book I am most familiar with.... and in that book, Yahshua says do not look for the Kingdom outside of yourself, for you can find it only within.

And in that book, does Yahshua ever say to worship either the Father or Himself? No.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations



This is actually true, there's nothing other than God so how can we be something 'outside of God', 'other than God'.
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Saving this. Too late to read it now. OP, there’s a lot in what you say.
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Now after Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king, behold, wise men from the East came to Jerusalem,
saying, "Where is He who has been born King of the Jwes? For we have seen His star in the East and have come to worship Him."
When Herod the king heard this, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him.


Matthew 2:1-3
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So what do you do?

Just be your best self? How does one define that without rothers? Or other external valuations??

Just doing good every day? Be kind? Service to others?
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This needs clarity. Otherwise it's not much different than what Crowley said, "Do what though wilt". And that gets dark quick.
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bump

This entire thread is dark, worship of self, instead of the creator,

Satan, in original sin, started looking at himself instead of the Godhead, hence the origination of Ego
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John 4:23-24 ESV
But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him. God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.”

John 4:23 ESV
But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him.

Hebrews 13:15 ESV
Through him then let us continually offer up a sacrifice of praise to God, that is, the fruit of lips that acknowledge his name.

Psalm 150:6 ESV
Let everything that has breath praise the Lord! Praise the Lord!

Psalm 95:6 ESV
Oh come, let us worship and bow down; let us kneel before the Lord, our Maker!


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There is a huge list of worship in the Bible. We are to worship and thank in in all things.

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Again, the devil took Him up on an exceedingly high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory.

And he said to Him, "All these things I will give You if You will fall down and worship me."

Then Jesus said to him,
"Away with you, Satan! For it is written, 'You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve.'"



Matthew 4:8-10
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I doubt, therefore I think, therefore I am.

There is only one God... The holy Trinity is blasphemous and Divides God. We are not to do that. We are creations of the creator... One thing we can be sure of.. is that God Exists and we exist Within... No the other way around .. GOD IS EVERYTHING, EVERYONE, AND EVERYWHERE. GOD SIMPLY IS.
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Elohim, Father Son & Spirit are worshiped throughout
the Holy Writ.Study David's Psalms. I think he would disagree.
For it is written "He inhabits the praise of his people.
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Saving this. Too late to read it now. OP, there’s a lot in what you say.
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OP is full of lies and deciept.

Might be a satanist spreading mis info deliberately.

This is why those that don't study scripture in depth will be susceptible to falling
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John 4:23-24 ESV
But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him. God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.”

John 4:23 ESV
But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him.

Hebrews 13:15 ESV
Through him then let us continually offer up a sacrifice of praise to God, that is, the fruit of lips that acknowledge his name.

Psalm 150:6 ESV
Let everything that has breath praise the Lord! Praise the Lord!

Psalm 95:6 ESV
Oh come, let us worship and bow down; let us kneel before the Lord, our Maker!


[link to www.openbible.info (secure)]

There is a huge list of worship in the Bible. We are to worship and thank in in all things.
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Yes, "every knee shall bow"
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Is that what you want? to be separate from God .. . For purposes of this thread, assume that God is the Eternal One, the Creator of all... the one Source.

Who wants to be separate from God? When you worship, you are separating yourself from God, by placing "him" in a place higher than yourself. You place a distance between you and "him."

While this applies to any and all religions, I'll focus on the book I am most familiar with.... and in that book, Yahshua says do not look for the Kingdom outside of yourself, for you can find it only within.

And in that book, does Yahshua ever say to worship either the Father or Himself? No.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


As you are so keen to use His Name, Lord deal withthe lies then the decieving

man is not YHVH, YAHshua however is Elohim

And yes he did say worship father numerous times actually, and He also recieved worship even before He was resurected.

You are also misquoting , The Kingdom of Elohim, indeed it i found within, but not only, and the difference between His Kingdo, and YHVH is significant.

You are a deciever, false prophet and liar, your name also reveals you are indianized gnostic, YAH rebuke the lies and rehashed , you are your own god lies, see what satan did with eve, you are rehashng it.

So deliverance and the blood of the Lamb on you amen
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OP,

What is worship?
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I admire and agree with your point of view OP.
Ignore these mindless cultist fanatic drones, don't even try to debate their programming. That's why it's called PROGRAMing.
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How do you worship someone you do not know?
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You can't. You can only perform traditional rituals pleasing to the eyes of others and yourself.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


We were hoping we could make friends at a worship service, valuing another human being there spreading love and goodwill, but we were never invited to the after party, bbqs or camping trip. Tried to invite to do nature things, walks on beach and so on. Everyone too busy. It was strictly only "friends" for an hour and a half, sometimes more if there was an extended church event, then they want your money, yet cringe when we do go to them to ask for help. Wtf is going on?
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Then the woman of Samaria said to Him, "How is it that You, being a Jwe, ask a drink from me, a Samaritan woman?" For Jwes have no dealings with Samaritans.

Jesus answered and said to her,
"If you knew the gift of God, and who it is who says to you, 'Give Me a drink,' you would have asked Him, and He would have given you living water."

The woman said to Him, "Sir, You have nothing to draw with, and the well is deep. Where then do You get that living water?

"Are You greater than our father Jacob, who gave us the well, and drank from it himself, as well as his sons and his livestock?"

Jesus answered and said to her,
"Whoever drinks of this water will thirst again,

"but whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him will never thirst. But the water that I shall give him will become in him a fountain of water springing up into everlasting life."


The woman said to Him, "Sir, give me this water, that I may not thirst, nor come here to draw."

Jesus said to her,
"Go, call your husband, and come here."

The woman answered and said, "I have no husband." Jesus said to her, "You have well said, 'I have no husband,'

"for you have had five husbands, and the one whom you now have is not your husband; in that you spoke truly."


The woman said to Him, "Sir, I perceive that You are a prophet.

"Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, and you Jwes say that in Jerusalem is the place where one ought to worship."

Jesus said to her,
"Woman, believe Me, the hour is coming when you will neither on this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, worship the Father.

"You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jwes.

"But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him.

"God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."


The woman said to Him, "I know that Messiah is coming" (who is called Christ). "When He comes, He will tell us all things."

Jesus said to her,
"I who speak to you am."



John 4:9-26
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I admire and agree with your point of view OP.
Ignore these mindless cultist fanatic drones, don't even try to debate their programming. That's why it's called PROGRAMing.
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When the heart is pure, there is no difficulty, whatsoever. Why should one be afraid of any one if there be no evil thought in us?

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Jesus said to her, "Go, call your husband, and come here."

The woman answered and said, "I have no husband." Jesus said to her, "You have well said, 'I have no husband,'

"for you have had five husbands, and the one whom you now have is not your husband; in that you spoke truly."


The woman said to Him, "Sir, I perceive that You are a prophet.

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Is that what you want? to be separate from God .. . For purposes of this thread, assume that God is the Eternal One, the Creator of all... the one Source.

Who wants to be separate from God? When you worship, you are separating yourself from God, by placing "him" in a place higher than yourself. You place a distance between you and "him."

While this applies to any and all religions, I'll focus on the book I am most familiar with.... and in that book, Yahshua says do not look for the Kingdom outside of yourself, for you can find it only within.

And in that book, does Yahshua ever say to worship either the Father or Himself? No.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


Perhaps we should just recognize God for being the Universal Consciousness that it is instead of anthropomorphizing God to some type of patriarchal Human Father figure.

The more the world personifies God as a male with "He, Him, His, Father, and Son", the more the world suppresses the Feminine because;
Men lead while Women Follow,
Men rule the world and Women are just our companions, like dogs,
Men bring home the bread while women tend to the house,

How many religions subjugate their women in gowns, burqas, from head to toe or compel them to wear bandanas, flannel shirts and skirts just below the knee?

Does God want that, or is it men with control issues dictating these stipulations that propagate men over women?

Better to just live in the pattern of Love with the occasional Fear to keep yourself in check.

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