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To worship God causes only separation from Him

 
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Worship doesn't mean what we think it does. We equate worship with basically organized, ritualized groveling. And that's the opposite of what God wants.

What God wants is a relationship with us. He loves us, he's patient with us, he shows us respect, and He wants that to be a two way street.

Worship in a Biblical sense is how we might say someone "worships" a loved one or mentor. Like how people say, Oh yea she's a daddy's girl, she just worships her father. So we have this capacity still to properly define worship in our society as a deep love and reverence for someone.

This idea of worship as a form of organized groveling rituals is completely pagan, and God said not to do that. God wants to be approached as a real person, not as a magic man in the sky you call when you need something. This is an infinite being we're talking about here, who you develop a telepathic relationship with that transcends physicality and language.

The Bible also says that no man comes to the father except through Jesus Christ, who also desires the same thing. Again, He wants to be your close friend, not an impersonal magic man in the sky you try to manipulate into doing you favors, which is the whole point of the pagan style of worship as organized groveling.

Unlike the pagan gods, the real God and His son Jesus Christ aren't there to trade favors for groveling. What they give, they give freely, and they want to be loved for who they are, not what they can do for you. As would anyone who doesn't have ulterior motives.

Think about if you treated a human friend how most people treat God. That friend wouldn't stick around for long, or it would develop into a very toxic relationship.
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Yep, the kingdom is within and we are quantumly entagled with Yahweh.
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Worship doesn't mean what we think it does. We equate worship with basically organized, ritualized groveling. And that's the opposite of what God wants.

What God wants is a relationship with us. He loves us, he's patient with us, he shows us respect, and He wants that to be a two way street.

Worship in a Biblical sense is how we might say someone "worships" a loved one or mentor. Like how people say, Oh yea she's a daddy's girl, she just worships her father. So we have this capacity still to properly define worship in our society as a deep love and reverence for someone.

This idea of worship as a form of organized groveling rituals is completely pagan, and God said not to do that. God wants to be approached as a real person, not as a magic man in the sky you call when you need something. This is an infinite being we're talking about here, who you develop a telepathic relationship with that transcends physicality and language.

The Bible also says that no man comes to the father except through Jesus Christ, who also desires the same thing. Again, He wants to be your close friend, not an impersonal magic man in the sky you try to manipulate into doing you favors, which is the whole point of the pagan style of worship as organized groveling.

Unlike the pagan gods, the real God and His son Jesus Christ aren't there to trade favors for groveling. What they give, they give freely, and they want to be loved for who they are, not what they can do for you. As would anyone who doesn't have ulterior motives.

Think about if you treated a human friend how most people treat God. That friend wouldn't stick around for long, or it would develop into a very toxic relationship.
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I agree with you.

Makes one question the ritualism of so many xtrian practices. I understand the purpose of rituals, but the keen observer will witness the church goers, of every denomination especially Catholicism, go through their motions one or two days a week, and live the rest of their lives in immoral fashion of every different manner.

And these ones will scream the loudest that THEY have the way of salvation, everyone else is damned to hell. ESPECIALLY if anyone questions or disagrees with the narrative. We've watched this for hundreds of years.

Now is the time for the revealing.
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The servants of the Most Merciful walk upon the earth easily; and when the ignorant address them harshly they say words of peace.

When the heart is pure, there is no difficulty, whatsoever. Why should one be afraid of any one if there be no evil thought in us?

Of what worth is creation ~ if it doesn’t put a sparkle in your eye ~ and a song in your heart?
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Yes, it is becoming one with your source energy from the Creator. Being One with source and following It on our individual paths. We should not expect others to be on the same path as our own since each path is individual.

Obey is for those that have not yet connected to their Creator and must follow the rules provided. Following is for those that have connected to their root, source energy and sincerely follow that path shepherded from the Creator.
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Oh th Path of

I

The Ego

Me

What Works For me

Oh That one

That old chestnut

Just Like that original Apostate Angel

The Special Little Snowflake Path

My unique because I am source energy and merged and so godlike and awake path

Oh lets go and cast some spells and raise our vibration and save our own souls, becuase just by being born everything Jesus Said and Taught does not affect me, GOD OWES ME SOMETHING

Ahem

Whisper Whisper Whisper Here Kitty Here eve Here Kitty Kitty Eve eat this fruit...

May God Bless You
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We are all fractals of source energy. Not only humans, but the entire universe. In the beginning there was nothing but void. The Creator had a thought that separated Its' energy into fractals to create the universe. Going within to connect to the source energy from the Creator has nothing to do with ego. It has everything to do with what is natural.

When adam and eve ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, our minds were split into a conscious mind and an unconscious mind. Our vibrational frequency slowed so that our bodies of light "fell" into this false reality. The Creator clothed us with animal bodies so that we could function in this slower vibrational world.

The Creator's truths were infused throughout the world for us to discover and assist us as we travel our paths. The lifting of the veil that will be revealed in Revelations is seeing beyond the illusion (World of Lies) to see the truth. This is accomplished by going within and uniting our conscious mind with our unconscious mind. Our unconscious mind is still connected to the source energy of the Creator. That is how the Creator speaks to us through visions and dreams of symbolism.

Again, going within to discover truths from the Creator has nothing to do with ego or self. It is teshuva (repentance) which is returning to our source energy and Creator. We adopted ego by disconnecting from the Creator and making ourselves more important than anything else. Once we see our place as connected to the Creator and strive to follow the Creator's plan for our lives, then we are following the natural way that was in the beginning before humanity fell.

The Creator does not OWE us anything. IT created us for ITs purposes. We should strive to connect to IT and follow the path It intended.

Your sarcasm and slander to the words of another project your own ego.

Instead of attacking another, strive to listen to their words and understand what they are saying. Since we are all fractals of the Creator and are one, you are really attacking another perspective from yourself when you attack someone.

The Creator sees all perspectives. The ego prevents us from seeing the perspectives of those around us. The ego only wants us to stay trapped in our limited perspective.

Again, those who are wise listen to all and learn from all.
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Your ego reduces your vibrational frequency. Negative emotions (hate, jealousy) reduce your frequency. Positive emotions such as love, compassion, and empathy raise your frequency. Our primary task is to bring the love of the Creator into this false reality to assist in its transformation to the world of truth.

Raising ones vibration involves going within to connect to the source energy from the Creator. The result of this is walking as one with the Creator on your path which raises your vibration. Enoch did so and transitioned to the heavenly realm without experiencing death.
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hf
Shakti.ji

The servants of the Most Merciful walk upon the earth easily; and when the ignorant address them harshly they say words of peace.

When the heart is pure, there is no difficulty, whatsoever. Why should one be afraid of any one if there be no evil thought in us?

Of what worth is creation ~ if it doesn’t put a sparkle in your eye ~ and a song in your heart?
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Worship doesn't mean what we think it does. We equate worship with basically organized, ritualized groveling. And that's the opposite of what God wants....
 Quoting: okie1

If you Love God you will honour Him.

Simple Daily Faith & Living

Trust in the Father and the Son fully

Thank the Father for sending His Son to us

Thank Jesus for doing the Father's Will

Repent to God the Father for your sins

Give thanks for daily blessings...regardless of how simple / "ordinary" they may seem

Love others and forgive them as necessary

Pray for others and help them if possible

Read the Bible and ask Jesus or the Father for guidance concerning it

Pray / ask the Father to show HIS WILL for you to do

Share your "testimonies" of what God and Jesus have done for you
I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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Your ego reduces your vibrational frequency. Negative emotions....
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hf
 Quoting: Satya Revelations

'vibrational frequency'?

Where is that in the Bible?

It's not. Neither are these words.

emotion
emotions
emotional
feelings
ego

Such talk about 'frequency' is Gnostic Gnonsense / Misguided Mystic Mantras that are manmade 'control mechanisms'.

Not Biblical.
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Love of self, hatred, and jealousy, all pretty much cover ego and negative emotions. They are clearly mentioned in the bible as is love which is another emotion.

Vibrational frequency is a state of energy. The equivalent biblical term is spirit. Energy forms matter or in biblical terms spirit forms physical.
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Love of self, hatred, and jealousy, all pretty much cover ego and negative emotions. They are clearly mentioned in the bible as is love which is another emotion.

Vibrational frequency is a state of energy. The equivalent biblical term is spirit. Energy forms matter or in biblical terms spirit forms physical.
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Well said!
Shakti.ji

The servants of the Most Merciful walk upon the earth easily; and when the ignorant address them harshly they say words of peace.

When the heart is pure, there is no difficulty, whatsoever. Why should one be afraid of any one if there be no evil thought in us?

Of what worth is creation ~ if it doesn’t put a sparkle in your eye ~ and a song in your heart?
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Love of self, hatred, and jealousy, all pretty much cover ego and negative emotions. They are clearly mentioned in the bible as is love which is another emotion.

Vibrational frequency is a state of energy. The equivalent biblical term is spirit. Energy forms matter or in biblical terms spirit forms physical.
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Well said!
 Quoting: Satya Revelations

headinhands
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Love of self, hatred, and jealousy, all pretty much cover ego and negative emotions. They are clearly mentioned in the bible as is love which is another emotion.

Vibrational frequency is a state of energy. The equivalent biblical term is spirit. Energy forms matter or in biblical terms spirit forms physical.
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Well said!
 Quoting: Satya Revelations

headinhands
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You are obviously on a different path than most that have posted in this thread. Good luck on the reality that you are co-creating with the One True Creator.....

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You are obviously on a different path than most that have posted in this thread. Good luck on the reality that you are co-creating with the One True Creator.....
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I don't need 'luck'.

I worship the only true God.

Jesus said the Father is "The only TRUE God"

John 17:3 And this is life eternal,

that they might know thee
the only true God,


and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.


.....

Jesus has a God - the Father. It's NOT Himself.
Does God have a god? NOPE. The SON OF God has a God.


John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not;
for I am not yet ascended to my Father:
but go to my brethren, and say unto them,

I ascend unto my Father, and your Father;

and to my God, and your God.


....

Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will

I make a pillar in the temple of my God,

and he shall go no more out: and I will write

upon him the name of my God
,

and the name of the city of my God,

which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of

heaven from my God: and I will write upon

him my new name

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this thread is a good example of how our language distances us from the truth.
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I don't and won't post a thread seeking answers from anyone. I ask of the Creator only and listen through my heart wherein he resides.

All threads I have started have been for discussion purposes only where like minded people....dare I say, people who are vibrationally aligned can commune. I know that lingo is outside your bible box and so will be disdained by you.

Others, who have found their way outside the bible box, will understand completely.

And there are many who have already posted threads on objections to the bible and why. Only to be viciously attacked by xtrians.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations

You act like no demon nor Satan can lead you astray.

You're sadly mistaken.

Look at Solomon. Proof positive.

God had Moses and other write the Old Testament for a reason. And Jesus mentions the Father over 200 times in the 4 Gospels - with the other writers mentioning the Father well over another 150 times.

Thread: Jesus and the Apostles - 400 Verses That Reference Either The Father or His SON - Son of God

Why do you suppose God had all those folks WRITE?

It was so the Father's words would be remembered - and not replaced by falsehoods and deceit.

You claim God - the Creator doesn't wnat nor even deserve worship.

You're sadly mistaken.
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Love of self, hatred, and jealousy, all pretty much cover ego and negative emotions. They are clearly mentioned in the bible as is love which is another emotion.

Vibrational frequency is a state of energy. The equivalent biblical term is spirit. Energy forms matter or in biblical terms spirit forms physical.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80643217

Well said!
 Quoting: Satya Revelations

:headinhands:
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


It's just different ways of explaining things. Hardly anyone talks the way they did 2000 years ago.
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headinhands
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It's just different ways of explaining things. Hardly anyone talks the way they did 2000 years ago.
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Do you really think that either God nor Jesus EVER talked about a 'Vibrational frequency'?

It's manmade New Age nonsense.
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Love of self, hatred, and jealousy, all pretty much cover ego and negative emotions. They are clearly mentioned in the bible as is love which is another emotion.

Vibrational frequency is a state of energy. The equivalent biblical term is spirit. Energy forms matter or in biblical terms spirit forms physical.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80643217

Well said!
 Quoting: Satya Revelations

headinhands
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


It's just different ways of explaining things. Hardly anyone talks the way they did 2000 years ago.
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I totally agree. It is just different ways of explaining things. Jesus spoke Aramaic 2000 years ago so he did not even speak English words. The English bible translations are just that ... translations. To get the true meaning of what was said you would have to have the words of Jesus in the original Aramaic and understand that language.

Instead of arguing about words, we should strive to understand what people are saying by listening to their perspectives. We all come from amazingly different backgrounds and we all see through a glass darkly.
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Well said!
 Quoting: Satya Revelations

headinhands
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


It's just different ways of explaining things. Hardly anyone talks the way they did 2000 years ago.
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I totally agree. It is just different ways of explaining things. Jesus spoke Aramaic 2000 years ago so he did not even speak English words. The English bible translations are just that ... translations. To get the true meaning of what was said you would have to have the words of Jesus in the original Aramaic and understand that language.

Instead of arguing about words, we should strive to understand what people are saying by listening to their perspectives. We all come from amazingly different backgrounds and we all see through a glass darkly.
 Quoting: danielbarzohar


clappa
Shakti.ji

The servants of the Most Merciful walk upon the earth easily; and when the ignorant address them harshly they say words of peace.

When the heart is pure, there is no difficulty, whatsoever. Why should one be afraid of any one if there be no evil thought in us?

Of what worth is creation ~ if it doesn’t put a sparkle in your eye ~ and a song in your heart?
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I totally agree. It is just different ways of explaining things. Jesus spoke Aramaic 2000 years ago so he did not even speak English words. The English bible translations are just that ... translations. To get the true meaning of what was said you would have to have the words of Jesus in the original Aramaic and understand that language.
 Quoting: danielbarzohar

'Jesus spoke Aramaic'? Says who?

What proof is there?

The 'schlolarly' claim that the Hebrews language was 'Dead' in Jesus' time has been falling apart for the last 10 years'.

Thread: Hebrew Matthew Manuscripts Clear Up Greek Translation Problems - Early Church Fathers Said Matthew was in Hebrew


A good portion of the Dead Sea Scrolls, including cave documents found concerning the Bar Kochba Rebellion are in the Hebrews language.

Coins from the period have the Hebrews language on them.

The synagogue scrolls were in the Hebrews language.

The KJV New Testament even mentions the Hebrews language.

Luke 23:38 And a superscription also was written over him in letters of Greek, and Latin, and Hebrews, THIS IS THE KING OF THE Je-ws.

John 5:2 Now there is at Jerusalem by the sheep market a pool, which is called in the Hebrews tongue Bethesda, having five porches.

John 19:17 And he bearing his cross went forth into a place called the place of a skull, which is called in the Hebrews Golgotha:

John 19:20 This title then read many of the get lost: for the place where Jesus was crucified was nigh to the city: and it was written in Hebrews, and Greek, and Latin.

......

Acts 21:40 And when he had given him licence, Paul stood on the stairs, and beckoned with the hand unto the people. And when there was made a great silence, he spake unto them in the Hebrews tongue, saying,

Acts 22:1 Men, brethren, and fathers, hear ye my defence which I make now unto you.
2 (And when they heard that he spake in the Hebrews tongue to them, they kept the more silence: and he saith,)

Acts 26:14 And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrews tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.


This is a reasonable read

[link to healing2thenations.net]

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I totally agree. It is just different ways of explaining things. Jesus spoke Aramaic 2000 years ago so he did not even speak English words. The English bible translations are just that ... translations. To get the true meaning of what was said you would have to have the words of Jesus in the original Aramaic and understand that language.
 Quoting: danielbarzohar

'Jesus spoke Aramaic'? Says who?

What proof is there?

The 'schlolarly' claim that the Hebrews language was 'Dead' in Jesus' time has been falling apart for the last 10 years'.

Thread: Hebrew Matthew Manuscripts Clear Up Greek Translation Problems - Early Church Fathers Said Matthew was in Hebrew


A good portion of the Dead Sea Scrolls, including cave documents found concerning the Bar Kochba Rebellion are in the Hebrews language.

Coins from the period have the Hebrews language on them.

The synagogue scrolls were in the Hebrews language.

The KJV New Testament even mentions the Hebrews language.

Luke 23:38 And a superscription also was written over him in letters of Greek, and Latin, and Hebrews, THIS IS THE KING OF THE Je-ws.

John 5:2 Now there is at Jerusalem by the sheep market a pool, which is called in the Hebrews tongue Bethesda, having five porches.

John 19:17 And he bearing his cross went forth into a place called the place of a skull, which is called in the Hebrews Golgotha:

John 19:20 This title then read many of the get lost: for the place where Jesus was crucified was nigh to the city: and it was written in Hebrews, and Greek, and Latin.

......

Acts 21:40 And when he had given him licence, Paul stood on the stairs, and beckoned with the hand unto the people. And when there was made a great silence, he spake unto them in the Hebrews tongue, saying,

Acts 22:1 Men, brethren, and fathers, hear ye my defence which I make now unto you.
2 (And when they heard that he spake in the Hebrews tongue to them, they kept the more silence: and he saith,)

Acts 26:14 And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrews tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.


This is a reasonable read

[link to healing2thenations.net]
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Today's bibles are still translations. Most of the New Testament was translated from Greek. Matthew is the only surviving book in the original language in the New Testament.
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I totally agree. It is just different ways of explaining things. Jesus spoke Aramaic 2000 years ago so he did not even speak English words. The English bible translations are just that ... translations. To get the true meaning of what was said you would have to have the words of Jesus in the original Aramaic and understand that language.
 Quoting: danielbarzohar

'Jesus spoke Aramaic'? Says who?

What proof is there?

The 'schlolarly' claim that the Hebrews language was 'Dead' in Jesus' time has been falling apart for the last 10 years'.

Thread: Hebrew Matthew Manuscripts Clear Up Greek Translation Problems - Early Church Fathers Said Matthew was in Hebrew


A good portion of the Dead Sea Scrolls, including cave documents found concerning the Bar Kochba Rebellion are in the Hebrews language.

Coins from the period have the Hebrews language on them.

The synagogue scrolls were in the Hebrews language.

The KJV New Testament even mentions the Hebrews language.

Luke 23:38 And a superscription also was written over him in letters of Greek, and Latin, and Hebrews, THIS IS THE KING OF THE Je-ws.

John 5:2 Now there is at Jerusalem by the sheep market a pool, which is called in the Hebrews tongue Bethesda, having five porches.

John 19:17 And he bearing his cross went forth into a place called the place of a skull, which is called in the Hebrews Golgotha:

John 19:20 This title then read many of the get lost: for the place where Jesus was crucified was nigh to the city: and it was written in Hebrews, and Greek, and Latin.

......

Acts 21:40 And when he had given him licence, Paul stood on the stairs, and beckoned with the hand unto the people. And when there was made a great silence, he spake unto them in the Hebrews tongue, saying,

Acts 22:1 Men, brethren, and fathers, hear ye my defence which I make now unto you.
2 (And when they heard that he spake in the Hebrews tongue to them, they kept the more silence: and he saith,)

Acts 26:14 And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrews tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.


This is a reasonable read

[link to healing2thenations.net]
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


If Yahshua lived in Galilee as the scripts say he did, he would have spoken Aramaic since that was the language spoken there.

The gospels record many Aramaic words he spoke. Mark 5:41, mark 7:34, Matt 27:46, mark 15:34, mark 14:36 are some passages.

Also, on Shabbat the priests and teachers would read the jabraw from the law and translate it into Aramaic so people could understand. Theses were deemed esteemed by the people because they could read jabraw. This is why when Yahshua was teaching in jabraw at the temple at the age of 12, they were astonished at him reading jabraw.
Shakti.ji

The servants of the Most Merciful walk upon the earth easily; and when the ignorant address them harshly they say words of peace.

When the heart is pure, there is no difficulty, whatsoever. Why should one be afraid of any one if there be no evil thought in us?

Of what worth is creation ~ if it doesn’t put a sparkle in your eye ~ and a song in your heart?
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Enjoyed the posts and discussion Satya Revelations. Thanks!
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Enjoyed the posts and discussion Satya Revelations. Thanks!
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hugs
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The servants of the Most Merciful walk upon the earth easily; and when the ignorant address them harshly they say words of peace.

When the heart is pure, there is no difficulty, whatsoever. Why should one be afraid of any one if there be no evil thought in us?

Of what worth is creation ~ if it doesn’t put a sparkle in your eye ~ and a song in your heart?
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Today's bibles are still translations. Most of the New Testament was translated from Greek. Matthew is the only surviving book in the original language in the New Testament.
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Actually there's a LOT more.

Nehemia Gordon found partial manuscripts of other books at the Vatican. And other researchers are finding them elsewhere.

Thread: Hebrew Matthew Manuscripts Clear Up Greek Translation Problems - Early Church Fathers Said Matthew was in Hebrew

Thread: Dr. Al Garza Claims There Are Over 4000 New Testament Manuscripts in the Hebrews Language
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If Yahshua lived in Galilee as the scripts say he did, he would have spoken Aramaic since that was the language spoken there.

The gospels record many Aramaic words he spoke. Mark 5:41, mark 7:34, Matt 27:46, mark 15:34, mark 14:36 are some passages.

Also, on Shabbat the priests and teachers would read the jabraw from the law and translate it into Aramaic so people could understand. Theses were deemed esteemed by the people because they could read jabraw. This is why when Yahshua was teaching in jabraw at the temple at the age of 12, they were astonished at him reading jabraw.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations

Nothing more than a 'scholarly conclusion'.

On top of that - it's pretty easy to see that since 'the gift of tongues' had been given to the Apostles and disciples at Ptntecost....

...then the Son of God Jesus could speak any language in existence in His travels.
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You are an idiot..... you know this right?
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If Yahshua lived in Galilee as the scripts say he did, he would have spoken Aramaic since that was the language spoken there.

The gospels record many Aramaic words he spoke. Mark 5:41, mark 7:34, Matt 27:46, mark 15:34, mark 14:36 are some passages.

Also, on Shabbat the priests and teachers would read the jabraw from the law and translate it into Aramaic so people could understand. Theses were deemed esteemed by the people because they could read jabraw. This is why when Yahshua was teaching in jabraw at the temple at the age of 12, they were astonished at him reading jabraw.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations

Nothing more than a 'scholarly conclusion'.

On top of that - it's pretty easy to see that since 'the gift of tongues' had been given to the Apostles and disciples at Ptntecost....

...then the Son of God Jesus could speak any language in existence in His travels.
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lmao

Like you aren't doing the same? Puleeze
You are completely denying the scripture I quoted . At least be honest and address those scripts.

They are recording him speaking Aramaic. Do you deny this?
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Today's bibles are still translations. Most of the New Testament was translated from Greek. Matthew is the only surviving book in the original language in the New Testament.
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Actually there's a LOT more.

Nehemia Gordon found partial manuscripts of other books at the Vatican. And other researchers are finding them elsewhere.

Thread: Hebrew Matthew Manuscripts Clear Up Greek Translation Problems - Early Church Fathers Said Matthew was in Hebrew

Thread: Dr. Al Garza Claims There Are Over 4000 New Testament Manuscripts in the Hebrews Language
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Manny suspect that the Vatican has not released the original language manuscripts because they conflict with the Church approved translations of today. Israel on the other hand has made the Dead Sea scrolls publicly available to everyone. Something to think about.

When the unveiling occurs, we will find that we have been lied to for hundreds if not thousands of years. The only way to really search for truth is to go within as Jesus advised for the Kingdome of Heaven is within.

In the New Testament in Luke 17:20-21 it states “Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said, “The kingdom of God does not come with observation; nor will they say, ‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’ For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you.” (NKJV) So what exactly does it mean when it says that the kingdom of God is within you?
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If Yahshua lived in Galilee as the scripts say he did, he would have spoken Aramaic since that was the language spoken there.

The gospels record many Aramaic words he spoke. Mark 5:41, mark 7:34, Matt 27:46, mark 15:34, mark 14:36 are some passages.

Also, on Shabbat the priests and teachers would read the jabraw from the law and translate it into Aramaic so people could understand. Theses were deemed esteemed by the people because they could read jabraw. This is why when Yahshua was teaching in jabraw at the temple at the age of 12, they were astonished at him reading jabraw.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations

Nothing more than a 'scholarly conclusion'.

On top of that - it's pretty easy to see that since 'the gift of tongues' had been given to the Apostles and disciples at Ptntecost....

...then the Son of God Jesus could speak any language in existence in His travels.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


The people Jesus lived with, spoke to, and preached to were not multilingual. So one would conclude that he primarily spoke Aramaic which was the common speech of the area and time. I doubt that his disciples were multilingual so the original books written by them would have been in the common language. Our English version today would have been written in Aramaic, then translated to Greek, then translated to English. You really don't know what the true intent of what was said was unless you go back to the original language that it was said in.

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hf
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Of what worth is creation ~ if it doesn’t put a sparkle in your eye ~ and a song in your heart?
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Manny suspect that the Vatican has not released the original language manuscripts because they conflict with the Church approved translations of today. Israel on the other hand has made the Dead Sea scrolls publicly available to everyone. Something to think about.

When the unveiling occurs, we will find that we have been lied to for hundreds if not thousands of years. The only way to really search for truth is to go within as Jesus advised for the Kingdome of Heaven is within.

In the New Testament in Luke 17:20-21 it states “Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said,

“The kingdom of God does not come with observation; nor will they say, ‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’ For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you.” (NKJV)

So what exactly does it mean when it says that the kingdom of God is within you?
 Quoting: danielbarzohar

Acturally, there's been Hebrews scholars at the Vatican for several years taking hi-res pictures of the ancient Hebrews manuscripts there. The Vatican supposedly doesn't have anyone who can read them.

Nehemia found the one's he did by accident - in a 'Junk Box' pf unmarked manuscripts.

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When you repent and confess Belief in God and His Son, parts of them and the Holy Spirit reside in you.

They can do many things with you but will NOT tramp on your Free Will. You can say & do stupid things and even teach falsely - though only They know how long They will let you do that without consequences.
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