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To worship God causes only separation from Him

 
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No need to worship anything, just listen and apply...or not. Whatever.
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One star for you buddy.
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Tell the truth or shut the f**k up. Mostly shut the f**k up.
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your signature belies your post
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Love not worship
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wrong
worshipping god is the kindest thing you can do for yourself
god doesn't need it
it's for you, it's healing to your soul
if you don't worship god, you'll inevitably worship yourself and that only leads to pride and every associated sin
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As an agnostic I don't support any kind of outright, unyielding belief in God absent any compelling evidence let alone full proof, but also am not outright convinced of said alleged Being's nonexistence. However, OP is spot on concerning the concept of worship, which is completely groveling, lowly slavery, total separation. The sane and intelligent alternative to worship is simply admiration, gratitude, love. Need to rise up as a species and get a grip.
 Quoting: Plunkenstein


Obviously, you have never been in the Holy Presence of ALMIGHTY GOD. In the Divine Presence you are not GOD, you are separate from GOD. You do not grovel in lowly slavery, you are bathed and enveloped in The HOLY SPIRIT of comfort and love, which yes, causes you to worship and adore GOD your Creator.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46960637


It's not an involuntary action.

Along with comfort and love: familiarity, belonging, depth of presence, wisdom and understanding, to name a few more. All of this helps construct a logical awe as well. So you still have a choice to adore and worship.

Also, worship is not just bowing or showing reverence. It's walking in the footsteps. Not being a lechter, helping and teaching others, developing and using your gifts and talents are worship as well
 Quoting: sorrow'sTear


When in the HOLY PRESENCE of ALMIGHTY GOD, there is nothing voluntary about it, other than words you may humbly utter.
The Divine PRESENCE of ALMIGHTY GOD will cause you to cherish every second if you are still conscious.
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To worship an external entity, means to bow down to it.... to basically declare it your master. There is separation.

To recognize the Kingdom within yourself, means to be one with God. To commune with him through your heart... recognizing and reflecting on the beauty of all creation.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations

Nonsense.

Jesus says a LOT about the kingdom of God
. One verse doesn't explain it all.

Thread: Bible Study - Is The Kingdom of Heaven / Kingdom of God ONLY "Within You"?
I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
ELLE SPIRIT

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bump

Thank you to share kitty
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As an agnostic I don't support any kind of outright, unyielding belief in God absent any compelling evidence let alone full proof, but also am not outright convinced of said alleged Being's nonexistence. However, OP is spot on concerning the concept of worship, which is completely groveling, lowly slavery, total separation. The sane and intelligent alternative to worship is simply admiration, gratitude, love. Need to rise up as a species and get a grip.
 Quoting: Plunkenstein


out of curiosity, what would consider to be adequate proof for you?
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


The incontrovertible kind, the kind that is equally solid as the proof of plant growth through photosynthesis, nothing less. I have personal experiences with unexplained phenomena (plural) and am convinced there's at least one unseen intelligence involved here; I just don't ascribe any religious belief to the paradigm absent any truly objective proof.
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'To worship God causes only separation from Him'?

Says WHO?

John 4

21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe
me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither
in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.


22 Ye worship ye know not what: we
know what we worship: for salvation is of the Je-ws.

23 But the hour cometh, and now is,
when the true worshippers shall worship
the Father in spirit and in truth: for the
Father seeketh such to worship him.


24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship
him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72502373

Then what do you do with Jesus' words that the Kingdom resides within us? And that his prayer for us is to be ONE with the Father, even as he is one with the Father? If you're one with the Father, do you worship yourself?

to do a study of the word worship in the aramaic and yebrew languages, one meaning is: Abad

1. `Abad means to work, serve, serve another by labor, serve as subjects, serve God, labor, do work for another (Qal)
2. To be worked, tilled (of land), to make oneself a servant (Niphal)
3. To compel to labor or work, cause to labor, cause to serve, to cause to
serve as subjects (Hiphil)
4. To be led or enticed to serve (Hophal

I understand this particular meaning to instruct us to live our lives as we were created in HIS image, and as Yahshua taught and demonstrated to us. That is to live in service to others. Expand on the Father's work through our lives of servitude.

If any part of us needs to prostrate ourselves before our Creator, it would be our ego.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations

Thread: Bible Study - Is The Kingdom of Heaven / Kingdom of God ONLY "Within You"?
I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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As an agnostic I don't support any kind of outright, unyielding belief in God absent any compelling evidence let alone full proof, but also am not outright convinced of said alleged Being's nonexistence. However, OP is spot on concerning the concept of worship, which is completely groveling, lowly slavery, total separation. The sane and intelligent alternative to worship is simply admiration, gratitude, love. Need to rise up as a species and get a grip.
 Quoting: Plunkenstein


Obviously, you have never been in the Holy Presence of ALMIGHTY GOD. In the Divine Presence you are not GOD, you are separate from GOD. You do not grovel in lowly slavery, you are bathed and enveloped in The HOLY SPIRIT of comfort and love, which yes, causes you to worship and adore GOD your Creator.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46960637


It's not an involuntary action.

Along with comfort and love: familiarity, belonging, depth of presence, wisdom and understanding, to name a few more. All of this helps construct a logical awe as well. So you still have a choice to adore and worship.

Also, worship is not just bowing or showing reverence. It's walking in the footsteps. Not being a lechter, helping and teaching others, developing and using your gifts and talents are worship as well
 Quoting: sorrow'sTear


When in the HOLY PRESENCE of ALMIGHTY GOD, there is nothing voluntary about it, other than words you may humbly utter.
The Divine PRESENCE of ALMIGHTY GOD will cause you to cherish every second if you are still conscious.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46960637


You preach fear, which is not what we're supposed to take away from the love of God. People like you are what drove me away for a very long time.
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Worship means Following.
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Is that what you want? to be separate from God .. . For purposes of this thread, assume that God is the Eternal One, the Creator of all... the one Source.

Who wants to be separate from God? When you worship, you are separating yourself from God, by placing "him" in a place higher than yourself. You place a distance between you and "him."

While this applies to any and all religions, I'll focus on the book I am most familiar with.... and in that book, Yahshua says do not look for the Kingdom outside of yourself, for you can find it only within.

And in that book, does Yahshua ever say to worship either the Father or Himself? No.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations

Your post is from Satan himself.
He loves what you have done.
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No it's not... This is just not understood by you. God created Satan anyways... but that's beside the point... We are gods... within a god... and we all have shadows... Each, and every one of us... but go ahead, and yell at your shadow... and call it Satan if you want... It won't change these laws that are causing you your cognitive dissonance. The only thing that will get rid of that is a greater understanding of the meaning of what the OP said.
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Worship means Following.
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Worship means work.
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Centuries ago the one word "worship" has had the meaning changed far, far away from the original definition. It now includes non-spiritual involvement and satanic or man-made religion rituals or practices.

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worship in spirit( believe) and truth ( God's word is the truth) know the truth & the truth shall set you FREE FROM FALSE WORSHIP!
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Him??
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Worship means Following.
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Worship means work.
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What work?
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In truth, which you can truly perceive depends on if you live in truth.

So in truth be naturally defined as nice, always. That is what you should aim for and not the opposite. How is greed nice if in truth there is short supply of something. ..
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Niceness leads to harmony with the individual, people may need to compromise to be within niceness in truth, yes you feel guilty ;)
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The bible states a universal law: You reap what you sow into existence. .. you feed outside yourself with lies, you then live in deceit. The truth will set you free.
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Is that what you want? to be separate from God .. . For purposes of this thread, assume that God is the Eternal One, the Creator of all... the one Source.

Who wants to be separate from God? When you worship, you are separating yourself from God, by placing "him" in a place higher than yourself. You place a distance between you and "him."

While this applies to any and all religions, I'll focus on the book I am most familiar with.... and in that book, Yahshua says do not look for the Kingdom outside of yourself, for you can find it only within.

And in that book, does Yahshua ever say to worship either the Father or Himself? No.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


Yeah, how long are you going to watch your daughter get gang banged while you pray until you finally pull the trigger. And you realize, you ARE GOD!
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O please dear God allow these people to see the wickedness of their ways, oh never mind God is inside of me, I’m talking to myself.
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What happenels if you remove Godliness? Of course it comes from with... its to unite, and prevent wrong doings to each other... best in truth is better.
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If equality isn't a greater force to live in, then what truly is by analysis of natural law?
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Is... Karma real ... is what you should find out, no?
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Dumb as shit.

Worship is making your body available for the indwelling Holy Spirit to work in and through you.

A living sacrifice.

And yes, the Bible does say to worship the Father and the Son, as they are both God.

Satan (satya) Revelations ... yeah.



Is that what you want? to be separate from God .. . For purposes of this thread, assume that God is the Eternal One, the Creator of all... the one Source.

Who wants to be separate from God? When you worship, you are separating yourself from God, by placing "him" in a place higher than yourself. You place a distance between you and "him."

While this applies to any and all religions, I'll focus on the book I am most familiar with.... and in that book, Yahshua says do not look for the Kingdom outside of yourself, for you can find it only within.

And in that book, does Yahshua ever say to worship either the Father or Himself? No.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations
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to worship God is to worship the creation and rightfully so... God is not comprehended on this world. Jesus taught this actually and you can probably find it in your bible.

Jesus said worship goes ONLY TO GOD the CREATION.
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I see what you did there.. again.

And a sacred reminder, for this one gonna have some funs with burning Bush, Biden, Clintooning Trump in Sheol too.

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Moses said, “By this you shall know that Yahweh has sent me to do all these deeds; for this is not my doing. If these men die the death of all men or if they suffer the fate of all men, then Yahweh has not sent me. But if Yahweh brings about an entirely new thing and the ground opens its mouth and swallows them up with all that is theirs, and they descend alive into Sheol, then you will understand that these men have spurned Yahweh.”

As he finished speaking all these words, the ground that was under them split open; and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed them up, and their households, and all the men who belonged to Kor@h with their possessions. So they and all that belonged to them went down alive to Sheol; and the earth closed over them, and they perished from the midst of the assembly. All Israel who were around them fled at their outcry, for they said, “The earth may swallow us up!” - Numbers 16:28-34


Therefore Sheol has enlarged its throat and opened its mouth without measure; and Jerusalem’s splendour, her multitude, her din of revelry and the jubilant within her, descend into it. - Isaiah 5:14
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I think worship creates an unhealthy relationship





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