What is Satan?

If you are concerned about your own soul and there is an evil (counterfeit) intelligence constantly pressing your buttons you would take that evil into consideration and might even share ideas with other people.

You use the word "preach" as if sharing ideas on a message board (that people not only choose to click on but even bypass bans to do so) is somehow a sermon. Please.

I don’t know what’s what for sure at all. I find all the discussions about god intriguing and fascinating. I believe we have a creator 100% and believe in the afterlife. Best stuff I’ve read is Jesus’ teaching of how to live your life and treat others. I just don’t know what is for certain in regards to any finer details past a broad belief in a creator. I get confused with things like I stated above about god creating satan or whatever people want to call him. I also get confused with the only route to avoid hell being through Jesus. Sometimes I wonder if Constantine altered the Bible a lot to accommodate pagans. Everyone going into the lake of fire due to being born into a religion that isn’t based on Jesus seems so wrong in my heart, the thought of it hurts. My heart says it’s not true. Whatever exactly god is, it loves us..all of us! The various names used for god in the Bible sometimes makes me wonder if it’s different entities because there’s definitely(in my mind lol) different entities but a supreme creator over everything. God in the Old Testament seems far different than god in the New Testament. I understand it to be man failing at works so only salvation is faith now yet it’s still confusing. And gods chosen children, the name I can’t say here, don’t believe the new test and would then be left out and meet the lake of fire upon death. That’s so confusing. Would think Jesus would have not only visited his disciples but also visit his killers or other can’t say name people to prove to them that his teachings were Steiger from god and to follow them and do as he said to do while alive here. I love Jesus but there’s so much that’s confusing. People focus a lot on his death and dying for our sins but sometimes I feel like he came to teach and that’s the main thing but I really don’t know 100%. And lots of stories in the Bible are extremely similar to stories that came before the Bible. It all becomes so confusing when you look at all of it purely in an objective way. I chose to follow Jesus so I’d have a romantic view on life an death and also chose to follow because evil is obvious in this world so I know there’s the opposite of that and a creator. And how we happened to be created to feel love pain stress hate desires and lost goes on: we’re very special and unique beings. It’s like where here to evolve and teach our souls. Sometimes I wonder if we do reincarnate and come here to learn and refine to something more and more pure. God definitely wants us to be full of love and nothing else. All of it is amazing yet so confusing and elusive as far as clarity goes. Wish god would have given extremely undeniable proof of how to live and be. The Bible is awesome but there so much that’s so similar to earlier beliefs and stories. Maybe they’re all from god? And god sends us more and more routes to be close to god? I don’t know. I don’t even know if god is 100% a he or a she or if god even has a gender like we do. I have no idea. Sorry for the long winded no paragraph spill of thoughts, just kinda let it flow out and how I feel, think, and wonder about our creator.

This happens all the time. People say stop talking about anything other than Jesus. Some of us want to understand everything we can about our creator and our creator created satan or whatever anyone wants to call him/it. It’s all a part of creation and it all matters. Notice that poster basically accused us of sinning daily yet knows nothing about any of us. What happened to not judging? This exact scenario happens here all the time and they’re constantly judging others and telling them they’ll go to hell or tell people they are evil. All for trying to discuss and learn more about spirituality. I don’t get it, things get cult like here at times

I think born again people do sin. I think we are all flawed and can never live and perform only pure works to be as good as Jesus was in the flesh. Savior is via Jesus and belief because man is not capable of making a path to gods present through works. This is how I’ve taken it, I could be wrong though. I do know many people still sin after being born again. If you ever walk past an attentive woman or man and take notice of tier features you have just sinned. If you ever judge others without knowing everything about what you are judging then that’s a sin.

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?

Notice how followers of Jesus come to these threads to judge all of us who have questions and want to discuss everything related to our creator and our creators creations. They call us evil and tell us we’re going to hell. That’s like the ultimate judging of others, Jesus would look down upon that in an extreme way imo.

If you ever get angry at someone and get a bad hateful thought then you’ve sinned. All humans sin and there is no exception, you may go weeks without sinning but you will eventually sin again. Sin starts in the mind and no human is perfect like Jesus and incapable of thinking sinful thoughts at some point in time. The holy sprite assist in avoiding this but we are all flawed. I could be wrong, but this is how I see it.

I think that’s an awesome post man, very open and honest. I’ve been where you are and you’re doing the right thing by questioning everything. God rewards the seekers.

Hey OP, here’s the thread I’m op of where I wanted some good conversation and to learn from others. There’s some really good discussion but also a lot of judging and hate. Give the good parts a read. I enjoyed it until I kept getting baned and the last bane lasting a while. I wish god would make everything crystal clear for us instead of everything having to be faith without full disclosure/understanding.

Thank you, much love to you. I’ve always sought out god and I’m 41 yrs old and the journey continues, it’s never ending imo. It’s like we all find our way to inch closer and closer to god. Seeking and learning is really the purpose of life. Imagine a world without the concept of a creator, we wouldn’t define love and hate in our hearts as we do and would live without what we define as a soul, we’d be essentially empty vessels that have a heart beat and a mind. We’d be soulless.

Sorry OP, forgot to attach the thread above in other post, here ya go

Thread: Question for believers in god

Good and evil are the human constructs for symmetry and chaos or so I once heard.

I believe the very old J----h scriptures have the closest meaning.

It's like all forms of brokenness and chaos that causes suffering in this world.

Please share your beliefs and explain them. And talk about what you question about everything. Kinda do what I did in my mile long paragraph lol. I’d like to read it and know. I love learning what others believe spiritually and learning about what they question about wha ya basically everything. So please share :D

I like that, like how you worded it too. Similar to how I see things. Basically the same thing on the surface but don’t know what you believe in depth. Could simplify things as the dualistic nature of reality 3D realm existence. Everything is dualistic, it’s fascinating.

Please share your beliefs and wonders of our purpose in life/existence here.

It is man's ego. 666= 6 neutrons, 6 electrons, 6 protons. Carbon atom.

It does mean you can go out and do anything and be blameless but there will be consequences. That’s why Paul said “all things are lawful for me but he would not be brought under the power of any”.

You still sin, I still sin, maybe not as much as before but we all sin daily. Here’s why we are blameless even though we do still sin.

Rom 5:12  Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Rom 5:13  (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Rom 5:14  Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

This is deep but hopefully you follow what I’m saying. When we are born our soul is married to the flesh. When we come to Christ our husband, the flesh, is crucified with Christ. That means we are free from the law of our first husband (the flesh) and now we come under the law of our new husband Christ. This is explained here:

Rom 7:1  Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
Rom 7:2  For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
Rom 7:3  So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
Rom 7:4  Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

I’ll do it tomorrow. Got to go some sleep!

Satan is the covering cherub who wanted to sit in the mercy seat (the one Jesus currently and will always occupy) because of his pride. (Ezek 28:14)

In the first earth age Satan rebelled and God destroyed that world. (Gen 1:2)(2Pet3:6-7) (The earth BECAME void, for God doesn't create anything void). 1/3 of God's children followed Satan during his rebellion....

God, being the creator of all souls, didn't want to destroy 1/3 of his children so the new plan was to create this Earth age so all souls could be born in flesh with free will to be able to decide who they will follow. Satan or God.

Satan is currently bound in heaven by Michael who will be releasing him soon into the world. Satan's spirit is abundant on this earth, just like the holy spirit is but Satan himself, is bound in heaven.

Satan had sex with eve. (Gen3:6) Cain is Satan's son. Able is Cain's half brother.

Cain's seed line is still on this earth and referred to often by Christ as the Synagogue of Satan.

In Revelations, only two churches (Smyrna and Philly)(Rev. 2,3:9) were "fully" approved by Christ, both of them teaching the exact message as listed above (who is the Synagogue of Satan).

I can document all of the above in the Word of God if asked, but if you're a Christian, all this should be pretty common knowledge to your ears. If it is not, you probably should get a new teacher and a new church.

Satan comes to this earth at the 6th seal, the 6th trump, and the 6th vile. Ring a bell? And there's your 666 mystery.

Churches today don't teach God's word. Most read a verse and then you get an hour sermon of the preacher's BS. This is just fine with Satan. He likes God's children sottish and loves it when pastor's skip over God's word for the Pastor's own. Plays right into Satan's hands... And he LOVES to deceive so-called Christians most of all, and today, it's easy.

Churches today teach crap like "you don't have to read or understand Revelations because you're going to be outta here in a rapture". What pure malarky. Imagine, some man telling you that you don't need to understand God's word because you're not going to be here for either Tribulation. The very meaning of Revelation is to "uncover, reveal".

Anti-Christ comes first. He's going to look like Jesus, he's going to do miracles and be supernatural, he's going to say to all the "christians" follow me, I'm going to rapture you out of here. And after watching the past few years of sheep behavior, you have to know that MANY who follow this rapture doctrine, who see a supernatural entity claiming to be Christ saying he's going to rapture you outta here will follow Anti-Christ (read Satan) right into the pits of hell.

Satan can't touch those with the seal of God IN THEIR FOREHEADS.. See that? In their foreheads, the seal of God. (Rev 7:3) This same description used for the mark of the beast. (Rev 13:16) What is in your forehead? Your brain... the ability to think, the ability to discern if you have UNDERSTANDING. Ya see?

So, will you be able to discern the false christ between the real Christ??? That is the test folks and those rapture folks are primed to fail.

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Serpent on a pole. Cadaceus. Pheonecian.

Satan is the accuser spirit.

Oversimplification statement of the year!!

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The adversary, the ego, your own reflection.

Can you handle it?

I am pagan, but to me...Satan...would be man's own resistance to God...to something larger than oneself, to rebellion against God, something that debases the divine spark in man, and casts out man from the ectasy of ever the knowing true eternal unity.

Are you speaking to me? If so, please write in complete sentences.

Rice, vitamins, tampons. See, these types of "sentences" don't really make any sense.

Alright, I was raised in church all my life. As I got older, around 18, I realized all this Christianity stuff was bullshit and I became agnostic. Was agnostic for a few years then turned atheist. Stayed a very happy atheist until 32. At 32 I was doing some work at a Pentecostal preachers house. We were just making small talk as I worked and then he began telling me about how he came to God. I politely listened because I could care less about what he was saying. I wasn’t interested at all, I had always believed Pentecostals were some of the biggest whack jobs in Christianity (I still believe that). But as he was telling me about this emptiness in his life, lack of purpose etc it hit home with me because I felt The same way. Long story short I hit my knees in tears and asked Jesus to save me. I have never been the same from that day forward, a major change happened in my life.

So I started going back to church again and I could still see the bullshit and hypocrisy, fake people, liars so I stopped going again but I still had my faith in God. That’s when I began to read the Bible regularly. That’s when I started seeing that what I was being taught in church did not even remotely resemble what I saw in the Bible.

I discovered that Christianity can be summed as “We’re all fucked up beings with no power to change it. All God wants us to do is admit it and ask him to fix it”.

I also discovered that the Bible is an esoteric book written for Gods people only. The only thing an unconverted person will get out of the Bible is “ I’m fucked up and I need God to fix it”. The rest of the Bible will seem like a comedy of errors to the unconverted.

For the converted people, the Bible is the Spirit of Christ. This is where we come to know Jesus personally as if he were sitting here talking with us because he actually is speaking to us through his word and we talk back to him in prayer. It’s like the Bible says here:

Heb 4:12 (KJV) For the word of God is quick (ALIVE), and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

I could go on and on but I’m on my phone and it’s hard to make long posts on the phone so if there are typos in this I apologize.

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Edit to add: THIS IS MUST READ FOR EVERYONE!

Ok but that passage starts out by telling you that this is directed to the king of Tyrus so this isn’t talking about some angelic being, it’s talking about a man, the king of Tyrus.

Eze 28:12  Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
^ The King of Tyrus.

Eze 28:13  Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
^ The king of Tyrus.

The king of Tyrus was in the garden of Eden and so were you and me and every other person that has ever lived. Let me explain. The verse below is playing out the same scenario as Ezekiel.

Heb 7:9  And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham.
Heb 7:10  For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchisedec met him.

Levi paid tithes to Melchizedek BEFORE Levi was born, just like the king of Tyrus was in the garden of Eden BEFORE he was born. So that means verse 13 is talking about human DNA . DUDE! Do you understand how awesome that is, those colors are DNA light, we are getting an inside view of DNA from the Bible. I have to study this further but this is unbelievable and you have helped me understand something that has baffled me for years. That needs to have a thread of its own for further discussion.

Also I does prove my point that the serpent/Satan is beyond the shadow of a doubt human DNA.

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Was acting as an adversary to God

An excuse for shit cunts to be shit cunts

the adversary of humans, not of God Read Job.

A whispery cat in a burgundy hat
Told her of a race that would die
But she told him instead she's in love with the dead
She's a necromancing slave from the sky

Sex most
Likely