Don't throw out old electronic equipment until the chip shortage passes.

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Don't throw out old electronic equipment until the chip shortage passes.
Endtimewatchman10 User ID: 76376503 United States 10/19/2021 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Don't throw out old electronic equipment until the chip shortage passes. In the future people may be trying to survive with whatever food they can find maybe with no power and on and on and chips and capacitors etc. etc. will be the last thing on their minds. Oh yes and whatever pandemics etc. they can dream up for us. My guns and survival stuff doesn't need chips. Quoting: Endtimewatchman10 You say that, but do you have a red dot aiming device? or a digital gun safe? Or a powered wheat, meat or coffee grinder? Washing machine? Fridge? TV? Radio? And do you drive one of those car/truck things? So much stuff is digital these days. Pretty hard to say to hell with it all. Quoting: Justme C'est Moi I've been a prepper and survivalist since Y2K and I could teach courses on it. Endtimewatchman1
Justme C'est Moi (OP) User ID: 80193276 United States 10/19/2021 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Don't throw out old electronic equipment until the chip shortage passes. In the future people may be trying to survive with whatever food they can find maybe with no power and on and on and chips and capacitors etc. etc. will be the last thing on their minds. Oh yes and whatever pandemics etc. they can dream up for us. My guns and survival stuff doesn't need chips. Quoting: Endtimewatchman10 You say that, but do you have a red dot aiming device? or a digital gun safe? Or a powered wheat, meat or coffee grinder? Washing machine? Fridge? TV? Radio? And do you drive one of those car/truck things? So much stuff is digital these days. Pretty hard to say to hell with it all. Quoting: Justme C'est Moi I've been a prepper and survivalist since Y2K and I could teach courses on it. Quoting: Endtimewatchman10 Same here. I bet I have more generators, Ferro rods and survival knives than you do. :) No guns though. Lost in the tragic boating accident. Last Edited by JustmeTX on 10/19/2021 12:20 PM Justme
Endtimewatchman10 User ID: 76376503 United States 10/19/2021 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Don't throw out old electronic equipment until the chip shortage passes. I lost the boat too. As if we didn't have enough to worry about then there is a possible EMP. I have some things protected with Faraday cages, Wonder what other fun things the shadow government is planning for us? Endtimewatchman1
Endtimewatchman10 User ID: 76376503 United States 10/19/2021 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Don't throw out old electronic equipment until the chip shortage passes. I lost the boat too. As if we didn't have enough to worry about then there is a possible EMP. I have some things protected with Faraday cages, Wonder what other fun things the shadow government is planning for us? Quoting: Endtimewatchman10 BTW....I wonder how many guns etc. that some future generation will find buried. Endtimewatchman1
Kamchatka Culturally outdated by choice User ID: 68193740 United States 10/19/2021 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Don't throw out old electronic equipment until the chip shortage passes. Did you ever try to remove a 32 or 64...or whatever pin chip that's computer soldered to a circuit board? Good luck. And did it ever occur to you that chips are programmed for a particular purpose for that equipment? Quoting: Endtimewatchman10 Someone is ignorant. There are procedures for this that work fine. Even a surface mount 386 DX40 could be de-soldered and replaced. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81019980 OMG, I am so sorry I can't give you green! My first "go-to" CPU when I was building computers. And yes, indeed, it could be replaced! More deplorable all the time.
WiscoSteve Harmless Loveable Patriot User ID: 79553822 United States 10/19/2021 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Don't throw out old electronic equipment until the chip shortage passes. Did you ever try to remove a 32 or 64...or whatever pin chip that's computer soldered to a circuit board? Good luck. And did it ever occur to you that chips are programmed for a particular purpose for that equipment? Quoting: Endtimewatchman10 Someone is ignorant. There are procedures for this that work fine. Even a surface mount 386 DX40 could be de-soldered and replaced. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81019980 OMG, I am so sorry I can't give you green! My first "go-to" CPU when I was building computers. And yes, indeed, it could be replaced! Quoting: Kamchatka Remember the 'over-drive' chips? lol.
Justme C'est Moi (OP) User ID: 80193276 United States 10/19/2021 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Don't throw out old electronic equipment until the chip shortage passes. I lost the boat too. As if we didn't have enough to worry about then there is a possible EMP. I have some things protected with Faraday cages, Wonder what other fun things the shadow government is planning for us? Quoting: Endtimewatchman10 I studied the EMP and CME possibilities for a while. Some smart guys pretty much convinced me not to worry about it. If it is not attached to a long wire that can serve as an antenna, the semiconductors will likely survive most events. I just don't have the resources to spare basically everything and put it into a Faraday cage. For a while I put a few radios and a small HAM radio in a trash can with Aluminum HVAC duct tape, but even that I have discontinued. Nobody is getting out of this life alive anyway, and I have lived most of mine already. If I guess wrong, so be it. Justme
Lowkey Cyberpunk User ID: 77651099 United States 10/19/2021 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Don't throw out old electronic equipment until the chip shortage passes. Did you ever try to remove a 32 or 64...or whatever pin chip that's computer soldered to a circuit board? Good luck. And did it ever occur to you that chips are programmed for a particular purpose for that equipment? Quoting: Endtimewatchman10 Someone is ignorant. There are procedures for this that work fine. Even a surface mount 386 DX40 could be de-soldered and replaced. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81019980 OMG, I am so sorry I can't give you green! My first "go-to" CPU when I was building computers. And yes, indeed, it could be replaced! Quoting: Kamchatka Remember the 'over-drive' chips? lol. Quoting: WiscoSteve I remember there was a copressor for the 386SX. "Yes, yes. Zathras is used to being beast of burden to other people's needs. Very sad life. Probably have very sad death. But, at least there is symmetry."
Justme C'est Moi (OP) User ID: 80193276 United States 10/19/2021 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Don't throw out old electronic equipment until the chip shortage passes. ... Someone is ignorant. There are procedures for this that work fine. Even a surface mount 386 DX40 could be de-soldered and replaced. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81019980 OMG, I am so sorry I can't give you green! My first "go-to" CPU when I was building computers. And yes, indeed, it could be replaced! Quoting: Kamchatka Remember the 'over-drive' chips? lol. Quoting: WiscoSteve I remember there was a copressor for the 386SX. Quoting: Lowkey Cyberpunk Math coprocessor? Justme
Lowkey Cyberpunk User ID: 77651099 United States 10/19/2021 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Don't throw out old electronic equipment until the chip shortage passes. I lost the boat too. As if we didn't have enough to worry about then there is a possible EMP. I have some things protected with Faraday cages, Wonder what other fun things the shadow government is planning for us? Quoting: Endtimewatchman10 I studied the EMP and CME possibilities for a while. Some smart guys pretty much convinced me not to worry about it. If it is not attached to a long wire that can serve as an antenna, the semiconductors will likely survive most events. I just don't have the resources to spare basically everything and put it into a Faraday cage. For a while I put a few radios and a small HAM radio in a trash can with Aluminum HVAC duct tape, but even that I have discontinued. Nobody is getting out of this life alive anyway, and I have lived most of mine already. If I guess wrong, so be it. Quoting: Justme C'est Moi I have file cabinets with electronics in them. No aluminum tape, just closed. If they don't survive an EMP then I just keep on going. Gonna miss the couple of wind up shortwave radios but anyways. "Yes, yes. Zathras is used to being beast of burden to other people's needs. Very sad life. Probably have very sad death. But, at least there is symmetry."
Justme C'est Moi (OP) User ID: 80193276 United States 10/19/2021 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Don't throw out old electronic equipment until the chip shortage passes. I lost the boat too. As if we didn't have enough to worry about then there is a possible EMP. I have some things protected with Faraday cages, Wonder what other fun things the shadow government is planning for us? Quoting: Endtimewatchman10 I studied the EMP and CME possibilities for a while. Some smart guys pretty much convinced me not to worry about it. If it is not attached to a long wire that can serve as an antenna, the semiconductors will likely survive most events. I just don't have the resources to spare basically everything and put it into a Faraday cage. For a while I put a few radios and a small HAM radio in a trash can with Aluminum HVAC duct tape, but even that I have discontinued. Nobody is getting out of this life alive anyway, and I have lived most of mine already. If I guess wrong, so be it. Quoting: Justme C'est Moi I have file cabinets with electronics in them. No aluminum tape, just closed. If they don't survive an EMP then I just keep on going. Gonna miss the couple of wind up shortwave radios but anyways. Quoting: Lowkey Cyberpunk I did something similar. I have a large 6 ft tall steel cabinet I bought from Sam's club 14 years ago. Tossed some radios etc in there. Certainly not a proper Faraday cage, but it was easy to do. Maybe it helps a little. [link to www.walmart.com (secure)] Last Edited by JustmeTX on 10/19/2021 02:26 PM Justme
Lowkey Cyberpunk User ID: 77651099 United States 10/19/2021 02:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Don't throw out old electronic equipment until the chip shortage passes. I lost the boat too. As if we didn't have enough to worry about then there is a possible EMP. I have some things protected with Faraday cages, Wonder what other fun things the shadow government is planning for us? Quoting: Endtimewatchman10 I studied the EMP and CME possibilities for a while. Some smart guys pretty much convinced me not to worry about it. If it is not attached to a long wire that can serve as an antenna, the semiconductors will likely survive most events. I just don't have the resources to spare basically everything and put it into a Faraday cage. For a while I put a few radios and a small HAM radio in a trash can with Aluminum HVAC duct tape, but even that I have discontinued. Nobody is getting out of this life alive anyway, and I have lived most of mine already. If I guess wrong, so be it. Quoting: Justme C'est Moi I have file cabinets with electronics in them. No aluminum tape, just closed. If they don't survive an EMP then I just keep on going. Gonna miss the couple of wind up shortwave radios but anyways. Quoting: Lowkey Cyberpunk I did something similar. I have a large 6 ft tall steel cabinet I bought from Sam's club 14 years ago. Tossed some radios etc in there. Certainly not a proper Faraday cage, but it was easy to do. Maybe it helps a little. [link to www.walmart.com (secure)] Quoting: Justme C'est Moi Yeah but do you have a hardware telephone PBX? I can do the same thing with Asterisk and a commodity PC but anyone in 1500 feet of me with have telephone. Actualy not a bad idea to set up Asterisk and have VOIP clients stored for Android and IOP. If you can relay the signal than you can have phone service for any number of people. "Yes, yes. Zathras is used to being beast of burden to other people's needs. Very sad life. Probably have very sad death. But, at least there is symmetry."
Kamchatka Culturally outdated by choice User ID: 57564312 United States 10/19/2021 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Don't throw out old electronic equipment until the chip shortage passes. Did you ever try to remove a 32 or 64...or whatever pin chip that's computer soldered to a circuit board? Good luck. And did it ever occur to you that chips are programmed for a particular purpose for that equipment? Quoting: Endtimewatchman10 Someone is ignorant. There are procedures for this that work fine. Even a surface mount 386 DX40 could be de-soldered and replaced. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81019980 OMG, I am so sorry I can't give you green! My first "go-to" CPU when I was building computers. And yes, indeed, it could be replaced! Quoting: Kamchatka Remember the 'over-drive' chips? lol. Quoting: WiscoSteve Heard of only. Didn't actually use anything like that. Couldn't prove by me they really existed. Last Edited by Kamchatka on 10/19/2021 03:24 PM More deplorable all the time.
Endtimewatchman10 User ID: 76376503 United States 10/19/2021 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Don't throw out old electronic equipment until the chip shortage passes. I lost the boat too. As if we didn't have enough to worry about then there is a possible EMP. I have some things protected with Faraday cages, Wonder what other fun things the shadow government is planning for us? Quoting: Endtimewatchman10 I studied the EMP and CME possibilities for a while. Some smart guys pretty much convinced me not to worry about it. If it is not attached to a long wire that can serve as an antenna, the semiconductors will likely survive most events. I just don't have the resources to spare basically everything and put it into a Faraday cage. For a while I put a few radios and a small HAM radio in a trash can with Aluminum HVAC duct tape, but even that I have discontinued. Nobody is getting out of this life alive anyway, and I have lived most of mine already. If I guess wrong, so be it. Quoting: Justme C'est Moi I'm kind of in the same situation. Endtimewatchman1
Endtimewatchman10 User ID: 76376503 United States 10/19/2021 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Don't throw out old electronic equipment until the chip shortage passes. I lost the boat too. As if we didn't have enough to worry about then there is a possible EMP. I have some things protected with Faraday cages, Wonder what other fun things the shadow government is planning for us? Quoting: Endtimewatchman10 I studied the EMP and CME possibilities for a while. Some smart guys pretty much convinced me not to worry about it. If it is not attached to a long wire that can serve as an antenna, the semiconductors will likely survive most events. I just don't have the resources to spare basically everything and put it into a Faraday cage. For a while I put a few radios and a small HAM radio in a trash can with Aluminum HVAC duct tape, but even that I have discontinued. Nobody is getting out of this life alive anyway, and I have lived most of mine already. If I guess wrong, so be it. Quoting: Justme C'est Moi I have file cabinets with electronics in them. No aluminum tape, just closed. If they don't survive an EMP then I just keep on going. Gonna miss the couple of wind up shortwave radios but anyways. Quoting: Lowkey Cyberpunk Inside metal containers and I hooked a ground wire to some water pipes. I have one emergency short wave and some solar chargers. I did something similar. I have a large 6 ft tall steel cabinet I bought from Sam's club 14 years ago. Tossed some radios etc in there. Certainly not a proper Faraday cage, but it was easy to do. Maybe it helps a little. [link to www.walmart.com (secure)] Quoting: Justme C'est Moi Endtimewatchman1
Endtimewatchman10 User ID: 76376503 United States 10/19/2021 03:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Don't throw out old electronic equipment until the chip shortage passes. I lost the boat too. As if we didn't have enough to worry about then there is a possible EMP. I have some things protected with Faraday cages, Wonder what other fun things the shadow government is planning for us? Quoting: Endtimewatchman10 I studied the EMP and CME possibilities for a while. Some smart guys pretty much convinced me not to worry about it. If it is not attached to a long wire that can serve as an antenna, the semiconductors will likely survive most events. I just don't have the resources to spare basically everything and put it into a Faraday cage. For a while I put a few radios and a small HAM radio in a trash can with Aluminum HVAC duct tape, but even that I have discontinued. Nobody is getting out of this life alive anyway, and I have lived most of mine already. If I guess wrong, so be it. Quoting: Justme C'est Moi I have file cabinets with electronics in them. No aluminum tape, just closed. If they don't survive an EMP then I just keep on going. Gonna miss the couple of wind up shortwave radios but anyways. Quoting: Lowkey Cyberpunk I have some of that stuff in metal containers and hooked a ground wire to some water pipes. I did something similar. I have a large 6 ft tall steel cabinet I bought from Sam's club 14 years ago. Tossed some radios etc in there. Certainly not a proper Faraday cage, but it was easy to do. Maybe it helps a little. [link to www.walmart.com (secure)] Quoting: Justme C'est Moi Endtimewatchman1
Endtimewatchman10 User ID: 76376503 United States 10/19/2021 03:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Don't throw out old electronic equipment until the chip shortage passes. ... I studied the EMP and CME possibilities for a while. Some smart guys pretty much convinced me not to worry about it. If it is not attached to a long wire that can serve as an antenna, the semiconductors will likely survive most events. I just don't have the resources to spare basically everything and put it into a Faraday cage. For a while I put a few radios and a small HAM radio in a trash can with Aluminum HVAC duct tape, but even that I have discontinued. Nobody is getting out of this life alive anyway, and I have lived most of mine already. If I guess wrong, so be it. Quoting: Justme C'est Moi I have file cabinets with electronics in them. No aluminum tape, just closed. If they don't survive an EMP then I just keep on going. Gonna miss the couple of wind up shortwave radios but anyways. Quoting: Lowkey Cyberpunk I have some of that stuff in metal containers and hooked a ground wire to some water pipes. I did something similar. I have a large 6 ft tall steel cabinet I bought from Sam's club 14 years ago. Tossed some radios etc in there. Certainly not a proper Faraday cage, but it was easy to do. Maybe it helps a little. [link to www.walmart.com (secure)] Quoting: Justme C'est Moi Sorry...didn't post in the right spot. Quoting: Endtimewatchman10 Endtimewatchman1
Universalman User ID: 79360120 United States 10/19/2021 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Don't throw out old electronic equipment until the chip shortage passes. Yes, in the apocalypse I will be bartering my anus ,3 stunted carrots and a pair of shoes I got from shooting my neighbor 30 minutes after SHTF with the local insane VCR surgeon for some kind of frankenstinian electronic abomination. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81005211 LOL!!!!! as long as your dark humor wont come true....! Universalman
Endtimewatchman10 User ID: 76376503 United States 10/19/2021 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Don't throw out old electronic equipment until the chip shortage passes. Yes, in the apocalypse I will be bartering my anus ,3 stunted carrots and a pair of shoes I got from shooting my neighbor 30 minutes after SHTF with the local insane VCR surgeon for some kind of frankenstinian electronic abomination. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81005211 LOL!!!!! as long as your dark humor wont come true....! Quoting: Universalman Endtimewatchman1
FeralOne User ID: 81023315 United States 10/19/2021 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Don't throw out old electronic equipment until the chip shortage passes. Someone is ignorant. There are procedures for this that work fine. Even a surface mount 386 DX40 could be de-soldered and replaced. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81019980 LOL when THOSE are back in demand, we will be REALLY $#@cked! Quoting: troo Wouldn't that be a kick in the nuts? I still have an XT just because it has an EPROM programmer attached. Haven't fired it up in years, don't know if the magic smoke will still work. Quoting: Lowkey Cyberpunk Better fire it up and reform the caps. Just run it through a variac and start at about 40 volts. After an while, crank it up a bit. Keep going in steps until you reach line voltage.
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