Vaccination status and being disowned by your own family.

We're all preppers and survivalists, and none of us have gotten the jab. We're stocked up with Invermectin.

I was actually pretty sick last week and had all the symptoms of Covid, including neuropathy in my feet. I don't know if I had caught Covid or was exposed to vax shedders.

Anyways, it was a miserable two days with a couple less than stellar days on either side, but I'm fine now. I assume my antibodies have been refreshed for whatever that latest variant was.

A little Nyquil fixed me right up.

Same here. College degree, good paying job, financially stable (for now). Most of my family is like-minded and don't want to take the jab because of the reports they're seeing about clots and such.

But then there's the 40-something burnouts that have trouble holding down even part time work and 20-something SJW's in the family that say they hope we "catch COVID and die a long agonizing death."

How am I coping? By adjusting my will. :)

"And to those that wished me a long, agonizing death during the great WuFlu Scare of 2020/2021, I leave my collection of expired Chick Fil A gift cards, a box of computer cords that I might need some day, and 7 thin zip ties in the top right drawer of my desk."

My heart goes out to those who struggle because of this artificial division by the brainwashing media.
Around here, we don't really talk about it, few people care, it's a personal choice, so it basically never comes up in conversations, and if it does, people just state their opinion and we're on to the next topic. My parents and my sisters are vaccinated (I told my sisters if they are so hell-bent taking the vaccine at least take one that's not mRNA based, so there is at least that), but we don't talk about it either as it's simply not a topic of interest.
Watching the heated vaxx discussion in the US feels like an alternative reality...

We know of many in our extended family and church avoiding the vaxxed.

One woman could not get pregnant being around the vaxxed and even women that did not get poked were having terrible menstrual bleeding and side effects from the shedding.

One metaphysical type report said the vaxxed literally give off a radio active type frequency (not as lethal as nuclear) but still very harmful nevertheless.

I've been taking red pine needle oil and NAC just in case as several employees had their wives get the shot.

Just like eve "eating the fruit" in the garden and falling from an immortal body of light to a carnal body, women really seem vulnerable and snookered into this needle agenda.

I'm going to toss this in here because it seems like the appropriate thread to do so.

I held off on getting vaccinated for quite some time. I wanted to monitor friends and family who had already received it to see if any of them experienced any ill effects. After six months of no one I knew personally becoming ill or dying after getting vaccinated, I decided to go ahead with it myself.

I didn't do it because anyone told me to, or mandated it, or threatened my job over it. I did it because my personal observations led me to believe it was safe - or at least not as dangerous as some people were trying to make it.

That being said, I still went for the J&J vaccine since it's engineered with traditional viral vector technology rather than the hugely untested mRNA vaccines. And, I acknowledge that in the end, I may yet regret doing it. But so far I have been fine and have not contracted Covid.

Here's my point, and I hope everyone understands what I'm trying to say, because I'm trying to be open, honest, and sincere about this topic:

Get the vax, or don't get the vax. But do it based on YOUR PERSONAL DECISION. If you have valid concerns about the vaccine, I understand that. I did and still do. However, if the only reason you are choosing to not get vaccinated is because someone is telling you to, and all you are interested in doing is rebelling against that because you don't want to be told what to do, I would gently suggest that you take a step back and reanalyze your situation.

If the only reason you don't want to get vaccinated is because you don't like being told what to do by your employer, then your decision is not based on rationality but on emotion.

Take a deep breath, sit down with your favorite beverage, and relax. Forget about government and employer mandates. Forget about friends and family who might react negatively to whatever decision you make. Forget about the media and social media circus over Covid and the vaccine. Focus only on yourself and how you think the vaccine might impact YOU. THEN make your decision.

Good luck to you and your wife.

PS: You said your wife is a senior ICU nurse. Has she been vaccinated? What is her opinion on the subject? PM me if you don't want to put those details in the thread.

In the dominican republic. Some things I still think will be better here as things fall apart. Food grows on trees. I know how to find them. Some places in the jungle (I think) will be squattable relatively easily.

Current events have forced me to start thinking this way. Non-vaxxinated are now banned from grocery stores and banks. Known for a long time that centralization is the beast to be avoided, but clear now that many are not ready for this. Many are getting the shot despite seeing whats in it. Many are faking papers (gonna fake your 4th booster shot too?).

My line's always been in the sand, will die before submitting to whatevertheheck the enemy wants me to actively put in my body. Can't get an airplane out of here because will need pcr test (nanotech no thanks). Maybe hitch a ride with capt. Jack.. (any capt. jacks on glp, pm me)

Only other last bastion of a civilized future for me is to afford land. Been waiting for for the housing market to crash for years. Been waiting for my precious metals to correct upwards too. Seems both will happen at the same time.. but not till after the land was *required* for survival at that point.

Seeming like the only path is do ditch all laws, all civ, all centralization - put all faith in nature - if want to stay fully true, not submitting to the system in any way. Course kinda knew would be like this...

Anyway this is a rant. See you in Sat Yuga

There is no traditional vaccine available right now.

The J&J ALSO turns your cells into spike protein production factories, it just uses a different delivery mechanism instead of mRNA.

The problem is your own body producing the spike proteins. That's not how traditional vaccines work.

Anyways, good luck.

If anyone is pressuring you to take the vax still just remind them that we are almost 2 full years into this bullshit. “Covid” has been in the US since January 2020. If you haven’t dropped dead from it by now I think you’re fine. If someone tries to argue with that logic then please cut them out of your life because they are stupider than dirt.

I believe most of my family has probably already gotten the shot and my wife's family also.

It's a good thing that I live kind of like a hermit though and my wife's opinion is the only one that I care about and we are both on the same page when it comes to this vaccine.

I talked to my mother recently and the vaccine is now causing her health problems. She used to be rather independent for her age and now she can't drive and she has to walk around on a walker because of what the vaccine has done to her. She also mentioned that a close friend of hers died in their sleep and she thinks its vaccine related.

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I agree.
Its a private matter.
I have shared with my closest however when others ask i say “i dont share this type medical info”
And people do ask…it’s weird.

ghey poll.

I’ve already (in this order) shared vax concerns, shamed, mocked, and disowned my vaxxed family.

IF the vaxxed get healthy and stay well, and the unvaxxed die, good for the vaxxed for making the better choice.

I feel good. Let it be.

I'm the patriarch of my line.
yep, it's a divider in my house.
I believe it's turned into a War of the Gods in my house.
I see the theosophy and synchronicity of the older "faiths"
in bold contrast and conflict with the new paradigm of "internet of peoples"
where self and value and are measured by digital currencies and marketable social status as AI algorithms.
Choice of living naturally is considered to be uncivilized and somewhat rebellious acts against this propagated new norm
yea i see a few bumps and I make a few bumps,
itsa "for the line of my people before me " thing.

My wife and I and a few close friends are the only unvaccinated we know.

A close relative laid into me recently about our decision to refrain from the vax. I'd love to say I responded confidently, but I was stunned and felt like a complete dumbass for about 2 hours.

Moving forward, I'm ready to answer. My main issues are the government and employers forcing it and the CDC and FDA interfering with highly effective, proven treatments like ivermectin.

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You will be sunk anyway financially... this system will be FULLY CRASHED with ZERO left. So if you have food, water, shelter away from a city you'll survive. Otherwise, it's curtains. then they'll raise the 4th turning which is the new Babylon.

I totally disaggree with Riff Raff because I think that the amazingly unrelenting hard-push IS something to get "the Ick" over. Good vaccines sell themselves. Bad vaccines need to be mandated.

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Disown them. Problem solved.

I’m the opposite. I don’t know anyone that has died from Covid nor does anyone that I know. I do know people that have had mild to moderate flu like symptoms, but I know many more that have been sick after the second Pfizer shot. Still explain to me how me being vaccinated protects you. It makes absolutely no sense, but the pro-vaxxers are clearly not good with logic and critical thinking.

It was my line in the sand before the vaxxes even appeared. It still is. Most of my family agrees with me from their own understandings, regardless of their politics. Even many democrats hate the thought of corrupting their being.

I have a sometime girlfriend who took a vaxx so she could socialize. I don't think it made much difference, since we've been in the same places and doing the same things. Usually they require masks. Nobody has ever asked to see a vaxx card(yet).

Daily reminder that your employer can still fire you after you’re vaxxed.

They can and will fire you for whatever reason they want.

im not trying to start a fight here about the efficacy of the vax. But i have a question:
if we assume the vax works at the 90% effective rate, why would a persons right to NOT get it come before another persons right to be protected from covid? Just an honest question here. Dont come back with "you suck, shill", just looking to see what everyone's thought process is on t his. If i am vaccinated and 90% protected, i should have the right to go to my job and not be exposed to the virus. I would expect my employer to protect me from it. I would expect the government to protect me from it. Why would a non-vaxxed persons right to go out in public come before another person's life or health?

it shouldn't. want to get vaxxed? cool, knock yourself out. don't want to? sweet, no problem.

personal bodily autonomy and informed consent should be all that matters here. not coercion, persuasion, social-shaming and threats to one's employment/medical treatment/access to social services.

you missed my point. if im only 90% protected, being aorund people that are more likely to get covid increases my risk of getting it. So if im at work sitting next to an unvaxxed person, my right to work in a safe environment has been taken away. Why does the unvaxxed persons right to go to work come before my right to not die?

Again, just assuming for the sake of this scenario that the vax works at 90%. Not aksing anyone to admit it does or doesn't. Just a hypothetical thing.

Going to work is a choice. If you don't want to take the risks involved in going out into the world, don't do it. We all face thousands of risks on a daily basis. Do a risk analysis and make a decision.

Your fear of catching something doesn't trump my right to decide what goes into my body. Bodily autonomy is more fundamental and profound then whether or not you'd really like to work a corporate desk job in an office with other people in it.

I have noticed at home we are eating less meat and more veg. not having to force ourselves, Jaso and I just sort of naturally are eating our veg first and meat last. even not finnishing the meat part. the Dog Toby is very pleased about meaty table scraps.

Got one more week of being employed, then off to mommy's home!

Definitely never imagined that at my age i would be in this situation, but whenever i think, ok, let's just get this over with and get vaxxed to fit in, my body goes into total what i call stress shutdown. Definitely good for losing weight, so at this moment i know this shot is not for me so rather be unemployed than get some unknown substance in my blood.

Also, given that we work with patient's data, what i still cannot believe is that back in april/may, i was assigned to a project that gave me access to medical records from emergency room patients.

I Only could see the admission notes and h&p, but saw enough patients coming in who blatantly stated, I was fine, then got neuro problems, cardio problems, right after i took the vaccine.

I expected to see the physician doing a vaers report, but they all denied that the problem was vaccine related, and they all told these patients, stress related, age related, problem due of unknown origin, and that's when i realized, there is something wrong here, and dug into the research. So had i not see it with my own eyes, most likely i would be vaxxed now.

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The only family I know who got the vac are low class. American family loyalty has been eroded by the identity stripping. You used to have cousins you never met stay in your house, if they wanted. It was called family loyalty.
Now brothers and sisters are disowning each other for politics. It’s extremely low class. Not a culture worth saving anymore.

Luckily my in laws are immigrants and they stick together. They’d never delete your phone number for getting the vaccine or not. They see allegiance to each other as more beneficial than to the government.

Good for you. I would do the same thing.

I actually did quit largely due to the plandemic, the death jab and everything else going on right now. Moved in with extended family where we are all prepared for whatever is coming.

Because following proper contact precautions is 100% effective, otherwise all of the nurses and doctors would be dead from this or ebola.

The science on this does not make sense. The math does not make sense. I get daily updates.

I could easily argue the same thing about STD's, influenza, lice, etc. If you smoke, why should i have to work with you, knowing your health care costs greatly exceed my own? If you do not exercize regularly and eat fast food, you are more likely to die from heart disease or diabetes. I am more likely to have to cover disability expenses for you.

Covid has killed few people. If this is about saving livez, the clear choice is to fight heart diseas, and enforce.mandatory exercise, which would also help fight covid, too.

That is just one aspect of this. There is still the testing piece, where this has been fast tracked. Why all the smoke and mirrors?

Why would any vaccine need to be forced during a pandemic? When people are starving there lines for food. If people were dying in droves, they would be lining up to get vaccinated. Instead, there are cash prizes... that seem right to you?

Why keep your mouth shut?

Information is your weapon. ARM YOURSELF.

My mother in law tried to tell me I should get the jab and I schooled her so bad it was hilarious and simultaneously brutally evident she did not know a goddamn thing about anything.

It was awesome.

And now all those brainwashed idiots FEAR me.

I know they watch MSNBC 24/7 and in the past they used to regurgitate that nonsense, doing their best impression of a human having a thought. Now they STFU around me and won't say a word about anything political or medical in front of my kids, because they KNOW I will bend them over in a debate any time I please.


It's liberating.