ALEC BALWIN kills woman on movie set. Gun 'Accident' On 'Rust' Movie Set ... Two People Shot. One died. UPDATE: ALEC fired the gun | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80609567 United States 10/22/2021 01:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALEC BALWIN kills woman on movie set. Gun 'Accident' On 'Rust' Movie Set ... Two People Shot. One died. UPDATE: ALEC fired the gun ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80609567 Edward Hutchins stayed in the coma for 6 months and died on June 3, 1966. Baldwin born April 3, 1958.. so 8 years and 2 months later to the day. 802 is double 401. and 401 is DOA = Dead on Arrival. Edward Hutchins of course a fictional character played by Maurice Evans from Rosemary's Baby; so you see the tie in with the rise of the Whore of Babylon and the Antichrist. 4/03 (April 3rd) is the 93rd day of the year; and the most sacred number to Thelemites is 93. 10/21 - 4/03 = 6/18. Or 3 sixes. On September 10th, 1954...My father robbed the post office in Lower Manhattan; changing all of world history; allowing the WOB to be born. That was 1 month; 11 days; and 67 years ago. I was born on 1/11/1967. |
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User ID: 78212432 United States 10/22/2021 01:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALEC BALWIN kills woman on movie set. Gun 'Accident' On 'Rust' Movie Set ... Two People Shot. One died. UPDATE: ALEC fired the gun https://twitter.com/_/status/1451396601591697412 [link to twitter.com (secure)] In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined: With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world, And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor. Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator. “Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.” – Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78333285 United States 10/22/2021 01:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALEC BALWIN kills woman on movie set. Gun 'Accident' On 'Rust' Movie Set ... Two People Shot. One died. UPDATE: ALEC fired the gun The often do a sacrifice e if the movie will be linked to a false flag event like the map in batman In Rust, Baldwin stars as infamous Western outlaw Harland Rust. When his estranged grandson is convicted of an accidental murder and sentenced to hang, Rust travels to Kansas to break him out of prison. The two fugitives must then outrun U.S. Marshal Wood Helm and bounty-hunter Fenton 'Preacher' Lang. Marshal Wood Helm JADE HELM? |
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User ID: 78212432 United States 10/22/2021 01:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALEC BALWIN kills woman on movie set. Gun 'Accident' On 'Rust' Movie Set ... Two People Shot. One died. UPDATE: ALEC fired the gun ... Quoting: thinking... If it's a movie set and the actor believes it's a fake gun or a blank shooting gun, nobody's gonna follow normal gun safety protocol. Obviously, they should since, apparently, that was a real gun with real bullets! The question is, how did that happen when it was supposed to be a prop? clearly hollywood has to be forced by law to follow normal gun safety protocols even if they really believe its a fake gun or a blank shooting gun. just claiming "derp i didnt know and didnt check" just makes it negligent homicide which is murder, instead of manslaughter. Where did you get your law degree? If he believed the gun were a prop and it was an accident, given it was on a movie set where he used such a prop, it is a homicide but not a crime You have to intend to commit a crime such as "murder" to commit a crime of murder, thats a basic premise of law. AT the most it would be manslaughter, not murder, and he would have to have shown some level of depraved indifference to human life to get that charge, such as when a person racing on the streets kills a pedestrian. Thats vehicular manslaughter. See what I mean?. "he would have to have shown some level of depraved indifference to human life to get that charge." He has inflicted his horrendous acting on the public for at least 30 yrs. That's about as indifferent to human life as one can get. He's a dick but he's a great actor. In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined: With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world, And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor. Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator. “Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.” – Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78333285 United States 10/22/2021 01:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALEC BALWIN kills woman on movie set. Gun 'Accident' On 'Rust' Movie Set ... Two People Shot. One died. UPDATE: ALEC fired the gun The often do a sacrifice e if the movie will be linked to a false flag event like the map in batman In Rust, Baldwin stars as infamous Western outlaw Harland Rust. When his estranged grandson is convicted of an accidental murder and sentenced to hang, Rust travels to Kansas to break him out of prison. The two fugitives must then outrun U.S. Marshal Wood Helm and bounty-hunter Fenton 'Preacher' Lang. Marshal Wood Helm JADE HELM? Just died Worked on Poltergeist Mike Fenton, casting director for Steven Spielberg's 'E.T.' and 'Back to the Future,' dies at 85 |
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User ID: 70972324 United States 10/22/2021 01:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALEC BALWIN kills woman on movie set. Gun 'Accident' On 'Rust' Movie Set ... Two People Shot. One died. UPDATE: ALEC fired the gun I feel bad for everyone involved. I’m sure he didn’t mean to hurt anyone, and now one person has died, and another is in the hospital. That being said, I think it’s hypocritical that he was so “anti-gun”…but still willing to shoot guns in a movie. That’s like a PETA member being willing to play someone who tortures animals for a movie, then saying it doesn’t count because it wasn’t real. If you’re really and truly anti-gun, you shouldn’t even pick up a pretend gun. (Personally, I believe every American should be ok with Americans owning guns, because that is what keeps us free. But if you’re going to take a hardline stance on something and say “guns are bad,” then why produce a western, and play an outlaw who shoots people up? And I know this is terrible, but the conspiracy theorist inside me says: What if it’s a false flag and nobody really died, but Alec Baldwin (the anti-gun Hollywood producer) set it up as a false flag, as a favor to Biden to try to take the guns away? But then I think - Nope….you’ve been reading too many conspiracy theories. Plus, Alec Baldwin would never make himself look like the bad guy in real life. Anyway, it’s very sad. I really feel bad for everyone involved. Especially for the family of the cinematographer. |
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User ID: 78212432 United States 10/22/2021 01:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALEC BALWIN kills woman on movie set. Gun 'Accident' On 'Rust' Movie Set ... Two People Shot. One died. UPDATE: ALEC fired the gun https://imgur.com/iKr4szF These are what we used in the military. On the left, a live round, on the right, a "blank". Actually it's not a blank, the bullet is made of wood and it's supposed to be shredded at the end of the barrell when it hits the blocker. If someone has removed the blocker, then this thing could kill. But probably not 2 people with 1 bullet. Maybe he fired twice, raging? Then there are also blanks which have just the gunpowder in them - but they don't generate the real kicking motion when fired. So might not look real enough. Someone else (on this thread) said a "blank" would not be a projectile but just gas. There seem to be different types of blanks, in addition to fake guns used, as well REAL revolvers loaded with blanks (whatever they are). In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined: With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world, And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor. Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator. “Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.” – Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80609567 United States 10/22/2021 01:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALEC BALWIN kills woman on movie set. Gun 'Accident' On 'Rust' Movie Set ... Two People Shot. One died. UPDATE: ALEC fired the gun ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80609567 Edward Hutchins of course a fictional character played by Maurice Evans from Rosemary's Baby; so you see the tie in with the rise of the Whore of Babylon and the Antichrist. 4/03 (April 3rd) is the 93rd day of the year; and the most sacred number to Thelemites is 93. 10/21 - 4/03 = 6/18. Or 3 sixes. On September 10th, 1954...My father robbed the post office in Lower Manhattan; changing all of world history; allowing the WOB to be born. That was 1 month; 11 days; and 67 years ago. I was born on 1/11/1967. On July 4th, 1963...father was released from prison following a 9 - 0 victory in the US Supreme Court. That was 21,294 days ago. Today is the 294th day of the year. |
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User ID: 80938800 United States 10/22/2021 01:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALEC BALWIN kills woman on movie set. Gun 'Accident' On 'Rust' Movie Set ... Two People Shot. One died. UPDATE: ALEC fired the gun ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80609567 4/03 (April 3rd) is the 93rd day of the year; and the most sacred number to Thelemites is 93. 10/21 - 4/03 = 6/18. Or 3 sixes. On September 10th, 1954...My father robbed the post office in Lower Manhattan; changing all of world history; allowing the WOB to be born. That was 1 month; 11 days; and 67 years ago. I was born on 1/11/1967. On July 4th, 1963...father was released from prison following a 9 - 0 victory in the US Supreme Court. That was 21,294 days ago. Today is the 294th day of the year. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80609567 United States 10/22/2021 01:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALEC BALWIN kills woman on movie set. Gun 'Accident' On 'Rust' Movie Set ... Two People Shot. One died. UPDATE: ALEC fired the gun ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80609567 4/03 (April 3rd) is the 93rd day of the year; and the most sacred number to Thelemites is 93. 10/21 - 4/03 = 6/18. Or 3 sixes. On September 10th, 1954...My father robbed the post office in Lower Manhattan; changing all of world history; allowing the WOB to be born. That was 1 month; 11 days; and 67 years ago. I was born on 1/11/1967. On July 4th, 1963...father was released from prison following a 9 - 0 victory in the US Supreme Court. That was 21,294 days ago. Today is the 294th day of the year. July 4th, 1963 was America's 187th birthday...and we all know what 187 stands for. |
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User ID: 79249554 United States 10/22/2021 01:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALEC BALWIN kills woman on movie set. Gun 'Accident' On 'Rust' Movie Set ... Two People Shot. One died. UPDATE: ALEC fired the gun This is not the first time this has happened, Brandon Lee was killed this exact same way on a movie set. Quoting: Intruth It could be. Could they have made the same mistake twice? A real cartridge supposed to have powder and primer removed. It was fired but it turns out the primer was never removed. No one noticed because the primer firing only had the power to push the bullet into the barrel. Revolver emptied for next scene (and no one noticed one cartridge was without bullet). Revolver reloaded with blanks that have primer and powder but no bullet. Bullet is still in barrel. Boom. I think if Alec is going to go full crazy, he would shoot up the whole place and tell everyone he is god. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79421922 United Kingdom 10/22/2021 02:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALEC BALWIN kills woman on movie set. Gun 'Accident' On 'Rust' Movie Set ... Two People Shot. One died. UPDATE: ALEC fired the gun This is not the first time this has happened, Brandon Lee was killed this exact same way on a movie set. Quoting: Intruth That case always reminded me of Heath Ledger for some reason. Joker from the Dark Knight also seemed very similiar to Brandon's portrayal in The Crow. Not to mention the mysterious death of Bruce Lee. |
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User ID: 63255089 United Kingdom 10/22/2021 02:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALEC BALWIN kills woman on movie set. Gun 'Accident' On 'Rust' Movie Set ... Two People Shot. One died. UPDATE: ALEC fired the gun This is a Columbo case. "Don't hate the black, don't hate the white, if you get bitten, just hate the bite" Sly Stone 'We’re the middle children of history. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War’s a spiritual war. Our Great Depression is our lives.' 'The world is a drama, staged in a dream' |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81031441 United Kingdom 10/22/2021 02:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALEC BALWIN kills woman on movie set. Gun 'Accident' On 'Rust' Movie Set ... Two People Shot. One died. UPDATE: ALEC fired the gun It’s always criminals and liberals misusing firearms, and the person responsible for this is the person pulling the trigger, the buck stops with you, because if you didn’t know, why the fuck did you pick the gun up and fire it. |
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User ID: 75168397 United States 10/22/2021 02:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALEC BALWIN kills woman on movie set. Gun 'Accident' On 'Rust' Movie Set ... Two People Shot. One died. UPDATE: ALEC fired the gun This is not the first time this has happened, Brandon Lee was killed this exact same way on a movie set. Quoting: Intruth It could be. Could they have made the same mistake twice? A real cartridge supposed to have powder and primer removed. It was fired but it turns out the primer was never removed. No one noticed because the primer firing only had the power to push the bullet into the barrel. Revolver emptied for next scene (and no one noticed one cartridge was without bullet). Revolver reloaded with blanks that have primer and powder but no bullet. Bullet is still in barrel. Boom. I think if Alec is going to go full crazy, he would shoot up the whole place and tell everyone he is god. This is all speculation but once people begin to make the connection between the 2 incidents, I looks like message to the lets go Brandon crowd to shut up or else. In plain sight. |
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User ID: 81028774 United States 10/22/2021 02:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALEC BALWIN kills woman on movie set. Gun 'Accident' On 'Rust' Movie Set ... Two People Shot. One died. UPDATE: ALEC fired the gun https://imgur.com/iKr4szF These are what we used in the military. On the left, a live round, on the right, a "blank". Actually it's not a blank, the bullet is made of wood and it's supposed to be shredded at the end of the barrell when it hits the blocker. If someone has removed the blocker, then this thing could kill. But probably not 2 people with 1 bullet. Maybe he fired twice, raging? Then there are also blanks which have just the gunpowder in them - but they don't generate the real kicking motion when fired. So might not look real enough. Someone else (on this thread) said a "blank" would not be a projectile but just gas. There seem to be different types of blanks, in addition to fake guns used, as well REAL revolvers loaded with blanks (whatever they are). Neither of those 7.62 X 39mm rounds are blanks. The one on the left is a full metal jacket and the one on the right is Teflon coated designed to penetrate flack jackets. Neither of these is used by the USA or NATO, these are AKS or AK -47 rounds. The USA does not use blanks with wooden projectiles. Last Edited by LiveFree-OrDie!! on 10/22/2021 02:10 AM The true Creator does not destroy his own creation, or wish to inspire you to through a religion, either. You are not qualified to judge his work, and neither am I. You stay out of my business, and I stay out of yours. FREEDOM. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77552792 United States 10/22/2021 02:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALEC BALWIN kills woman on movie set. Gun 'Accident' On 'Rust' Movie Set ... Two People Shot. One died. UPDATE: ALEC fired the gun [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] Quoting: Karlgel These are what we used in the military. On the left, a live round, on the right, a "blank". Actually it's not a blank, the bullet is made of wood and it's supposed to be shredded at the end of the barrell when it hits the blocker. If someone has removed the blocker, then this thing could kill. But probably not 2 people with 1 bullet. Maybe he fired twice, raging? Then there are also blanks which have just the gunpowder in them - but they don't generate the real kicking motion when fired. So might not look real enough. Someone else (on this thread) said a "blank" would not be a projectile but just gas. There seem to be different types of blanks, in addition to fake guns used, as well REAL revolvers loaded with blanks (whatever they are). I can assure you that the blanks that were supposed to be used in that movie in situations like today fire nothing but gas. Many people have brought up Brandon Lee. The official explanation was a freakish series of events that allowed for a .44 caliber bullet to become lodged in the barrel of a pistol that then later fired a blank, propelling the bullet into Lee's stomach. If a prop gun was used today, either a similar freakish series of events occurred again, which is highly unlikely, or Baldwin fired a real gun with a real bullet. As someone else has already posted: Workers’ union DSA-LA Hollywood Labor said, “So many safety protocols had to be ignored in order to get to this point. The price of a f--ing Alec Baldwin movie shouldn’t be a worker’s life.” [link to www.smh.com.au (secure)] |
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User ID: 79524545 United States 10/22/2021 02:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALEC BALWIN kills woman on movie set. Gun 'Accident' On 'Rust' Movie Set ... Two People Shot. One died. UPDATE: ALEC fired the gun They absolutely do use real guns in movies. There is an online movie firearms database full of firearms real or fake (Hellboy’s hand cannon) used in movies. I think this is a case of arrogant artist knowitalls in a hurry to shoot a scene and dispensed with proper firearms etiquette. How long have we been making movies with guns in them? Over a hundred years, and no one knows how to safely handle a gun on set? This is BS. I made friends with the armorer while working as an extra in the Chicago Transformers movie. We were issued functioning full auto firearms, including 50BMG. There's no real ammo on the set, the production company had an incredible travelling armory :) |
SkymallBrookstone
User ID: 79249554 United States 10/22/2021 02:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALEC BALWIN kills woman on movie set. Gun 'Accident' On 'Rust' Movie Set ... Two People Shot. One died. UPDATE: ALEC fired the gun If it was an accident, it could only be with revolvers. For close ups, the revolver needs to have bullets at the end of the cartridge. A primer not removed and fired pushes the bullet into the chamber before blanks fired. With semi auto or any other gun where you cannot see the bullet in a close up, it would be blanks only and ever. Maybe a simple safety step would be to fire the first blank into the ground before any actor gets it. You then are guaranteed that nothing is in the barrel. Or even simpler, look in the barrel. Last Edited by SkymallBrookstone on 10/22/2021 02:20 AM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80812566 Australia 10/22/2021 02:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALEC BALWIN kills woman on movie set. Gun 'Accident' On 'Rust' Movie Set ... Two People Shot. One died. UPDATE: ALEC fired the gun If a prop gun was used today, either a similar freakish series of events occurred again, which is highly unlikely, or Baldwin fired a real gun with a real bullet. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77552792 As someone else has already posted: Workers’ union DSA-LA Hollywood Labor said, “So many safety protocols had to be ignored in order to get to this point. The price of a f--ing Alec Baldwin movie shouldn’t be a worker’s life.” [link to www.smh.com.au (secure)] RIP |