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REVEALED: How super-rich, like $60bn Nike founder Phil Knight, avoid billions in taxes by 'cycling' their wealth through trusts and gift lov

 
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I also like "Wealth Secrets of the One Percent". The best book on how the one percent rig the system. Link to a review below.

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Yeah it's called being smart. I suggest you try it for once.
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Mimic success. Every person could set up a trust for their heirs. Every person could have a will so the government does not steal it all.

But they do not!

Loop holes are not just for the rich. They are for any person who has a brain to search and use these financial tools.

Just like some people are smart enough to have a basic prenup and the rest are to stupid to even think about it then whine about getting taken to the bank.

What is it called when you turn the poor against the rich because the rich was smarter? It has happened in more than a few countries and now it is being used against the poor of the U.S.A.

You can always count on human greed! And you can always count on a communist pitting the poor against the rich!

TAKE ALL HIS SHIT AND GIVE IT TO ME!
TAKE ALL HIS SHIT AND GIVE IT TO ME!
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"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear."
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The law does NOT require you to pay federal taxes on earned income.
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Technically true, but theyve written themselves unquestioned and unlegal 'regulations' which are intended to supercede actual black letter laws.

It is corrupt, but after all they named the system after their own kind, and against any others, as a demonsration of ownership and they can enforce it against you forever.
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I also like "Wealth Secrets of the One Percent". The best book on how the one percent rig the system. Link to a review below.

[link to georgekelley.org]
 Quoting: Wicked Monkey


The real issue is avoiding being prosecuted and forced to pay.
They do not prosecute themselves.
Its kindof a law.
They gain total control to prosecute everyone else while they exempt themselves.

It is, after all named for themselves.
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Estate tax loopholes exploited by billionaires allow them to pass their wealth onto their heirs without paying taxes
Nike founder Philip Knight is a prime example of someone who has inflated his son's wealth over the past decade by taking advantage of a number of loopholes
Since finding Nike in 1964, Knight, 83, has become the 22nd richest man in the world, with a current net worth of $59.8 billion
He has moved at least $9.3 billion in Nike shares and other assets to his descendants, starting in 2009, Bloomberg reported.
House Democrats looking to close them as a means of funding social programs and, most recently, President Biden's 3.5 trillion spending plan



America's wealthiest people are able to avoid billions in taxes by passing huge chunks of their companies to their heirs for free.

An analysis by Bloomberg on Knight's fortune - estimated at $60 billion - discovered that he was able to take advantage of a financial tool called a grantor-retained annuity trust (GRAT). Knight set up nine GRATS, which enabled him to transfer $6.1 billion of Nike shares to loved-ones between 2009 and 2016 - without incurring any tax on them.

Gifts are taxable, but GRATS offer a loophole that allows the person who sets it up to designate others - such as heirs - as beneficiaries.




Assets are then placed into GRATS, which repay their owner an annuity. If the value of a GRAT goes up, those gains can stay in the GRAT, with whatever is left then transferred to its beneficiaries - such as Knight's heirs - tax-free.

Knight has long-touted his commitment to eventually giving away all of his immense wealth to charity, but what lies beneath that promise is over a decade's worth of exploiting tax loopholes to inflate his fortune and pass it on to his heirs.



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but your 600.00 oops 10,000.00 now dollars in your account will help with the tax defecit that is coming
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Yup. So the only rich actually paying more in taxes with increases are the stupid ones.
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Is he really cycling wealth or just honestly making family beneficiaries? You need proof.

Last Edited by nonperson on 10/22/2021 11:48 AM
Either it’s real or it’s not. But it probably is.
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It's all one big interconnected network between the billionaires of the world and the owners of the international central banking system. It's a modern aristocracy based on fraud. Printing money backed by nothing while at the same time collecting taxes from governments to pay back government loans that were serviced with air-printed money.

Whenever I see the word "beast" mentioned in the bible, I think of the international central banks. They are what gives power to those around them and dictate all policies in every western country & Europe. It's no coincidence the agenda of marxism happens to be the same agenda simultaneously in each country where central banks are located.
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I get your frustration on the $600 rule but let’s be clear.

There is no such thing as a tax loophole. Tax law yes, loophole no.

They’ve been gaslighting people for years.
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Indiana has no inheritance tax, and anyone can gift $10,000 per year tax free to anyone else...I did it just recently...

Why should a person's inheritance be taxed??

I pay no income taxes either...Only capital gains
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yea i have a friend with three Brothers, His Dad gave them each $13,000 a year every year for the last ten years of his life, this is Maryland so the amounts must differ State to State? anyway it was considered a gift and not taxable! Another thing he did was split up thousands of AT&T Stocks that he owned between them, put it in their names and had the dividends set for re investment, they didn't even know he did it till after he died, i think when they sell the stocks they will have to pay Capital gains but still it's been a Tax free investment so far for them.

there is another thing you can do and that is to put your child on your bank account as a joint account but you must really trust your child, after death the Child or who ever gets the money free and clear, there is also the POD but i think they will be changing it in the near future and consider it a inheritance??
would rather have it & not need it then need it & not have it
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Guess what the Gates Foundation is.

A tax write off. You really think that guy wants to help this world? Or his wealth?
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Indiana has no inheritance tax, and anyone can gift $10,000 per year tax free to anyone else...I did it just recently...

Why should a person's inheritance be taxed??

I pay no income taxes either...Only capital gains
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Why stop at 10k? Is that your government's arbitrary and capricious behavior/modis operandi?
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I hope they raise that amount, it has been capped at 10k for many years now...
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Um, it's $15,000 now. [link to smartasset.com (secure)]
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Guess what the Gates Foundation is.

A tax write off. You really think that guy wants to help this world? Or his wealth?
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IMO all those foundations are nothing but Laundromats for the
Elite!
would rather have it & not need it then need it & not have it
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Taxes are only for the middle class

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Most of us don't have accountants to show us these loopholes.
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Look up and research Wyoming trust. You can do it online. If you do not have the money to hire a tax lawyer or deal in person with a trust company this would be the way to go. Plus it is important you have a will.
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THANK YOU!!

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Oh shut up. People on around here love to defend the rich and their right to be rich even if it leaves other people living in shit. You know, this is about survival of the fittest and if you don't have money you ain't fit.

Of course if this was nature you might have ousted Bill Gates or Jeff Bezos for those bananas but this is not nature, it's the clown world money system where beta males are on top of the pyramid scheme.

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You are actually fkn retarded.
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This forum = Communist shills
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This forum = Communist shills
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There is also a crazy amount of brainwashed narrow-minded shills here who root for the master
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... actually this is what the rich have been doing forever!!! ...
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... and "they" have agents writing the financial rules/regs soooooo ...
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And to "fight" this, Obiden is going to have banks report transactions of over $600....


So, once again, unless you are a part of the club, you will pay for the unethical actions of the members of the club
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Re: REVEALED: How super-rich, like $60bn Nike founder Phil Knight, avoid billions in taxes by 'cycling' their wealth through trusts and gift lov
You peasants are really degraded by billionaires from truth.

Billionaires pay zero taxes their entire life.

For this privilege to pay zero taxes, billionaires pay inheritance tax, half.

This is by far greatest deal in human history to favor billionaires…

But all billionaires should be annihilated anyways, so who cares.
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Billionaires wouldn't exist if there were less people (aka consumers) on Earth. So if you annihilate yourself, that would be a start.
I don’t care about your pronouns.
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That is why inheritance and gift giving taxes NEED to be "haircut taxes", that shave alittle off the top.

Current inheritance and gift giving taxes are amputations, which force the rich to go the route of working to pay the least in taxes.
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I am certain that each and every individual on this board would be
using these and other tax AVOIDANCE mechanisms if you had the same
level of income.

The politicians hammer the rich on camera, but do nothing to close
up the loopholes. They gather in the evenings, clink their crystal
tumblers of Scotch, and laugh about the whole thing.

But in the end, they set the rules and the tax code.

I am free to avail myself of every mechanism and angle in that tax
code to reduce my tax burden.
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I'm not a professional and this is not advice.

We put the bulk of our funds in a municipal bond and treasury bond fund which is tax free. We take 30k a year out of it and it still makes more than we take out.

Everything else is in pharma, energy, banks and tech.
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But y'all don't want to tax the wealthy because of Trickle Down Economics. Y'ALL trust Corporations and CEO'S to do what's best. You thank them, worship them, for your pittance of a wage because of FreeDUMB or some fake shit.
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IF HE KNOWS WHAT GOOD FOR HIM
HE'LL FEED AND SHOE THE HOMELESS
FOR REPENTANCE
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Oh shut up. People on around here love to defend the rich and their right to be rich even if it leaves other people living in shit. You know, this is about survival of the fittest and if you don't have money you ain't fit.

Of course if this was nature you might have ousted Bill Gates or Jeff Bezos for those bananas but this is not nature, it's the clown world money system where beta males are on top of the pyramid scheme.

chuckleratdance
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Personally, I'm quite happy to have too much. I'd be worried about meeting my maker and having a bunch of wealth I never used to seriously try and improve the life of those suffering around me. Crazy world. Nobody is wealthy until everybody is. This charade can't end soon enough.
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Some people don't want to be wealthy they just want basics. The fact that people fully willing to work who aren't breaking the laws cannot get those basics is telling indeed.
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Oh shut up. People on around here love to defend the rich and their right to be rich even if it leaves other people living in shit. You know, this is about survival of the fittest and if you don't have money you ain't fit.

Of course if this was nature you might have ousted Bill Gates or Jeff Bezos for those bananas but this is not nature, it's the clown world money system where beta males are on top of the pyramid scheme.

chuckleratdance
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You are actually fkn retarded.
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You're just mad because you're cucked and will never amount to the wealth these beta males have accrued. billgatesbeavis
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Indiana has no inheritance tax, and anyone can gift $10,000 per year tax free to anyone else...I did it just recently...

Why should a person's inheritance be taxed??

I pay no income taxes either...Only capital gains
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Why stop at 10k? Is that your government's arbitrary and capricious behavior/modis operandi?
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I hope they raise that amount, it has been capped at 10k for many years now...
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Um, it's $15,000 now. [link to smartasset.com (secure)]
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Yeah it's called being smart. I suggest you try it for once.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80326576


Nobody pays taxes they don't have to but thanks for that deep wisdom.

The complaint is the rich have a different set of rules which benefit them greatly.

The different set of rules for the rest of us do great harm to us. (e.g. the legal system would destroy our lives in a heartbeat for jaywalking while the Sackler Family killed a million Americans with opioids and now live in Switzerland.)

See the difference?

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You peasants are really degraded by billionaires from truth.

Billionaires pay zero taxes their entire life.

For this privilege to pay zero taxes, billionaires pay inheritance tax, half.

This is by far greatest deal in human history to favor billionaires…

But all billionaires should be annihilated anyways, so who cares.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81035044


Billionaires wouldn't exist if there were less people (aka consumers) on Earth. So if you annihilate yourself, that would be a start.
 Quoting: Pabamus V



the only way to annihilate all billionaires and their millionaires Corps and Politicians (aka globalists) is to nuke globalist proxies: Israel, Britain and then China.





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