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There must be something good about cigarettes

 
TheEmptyChild

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10/22/2021 11:33 AM
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One of the bigger lies, in my opinion, is that cigarettes cause cancer. EVERYONE used to smoke and most of those people made it well into their 80's. Cigarettes became the scapegoats when all the other cancer causing chemicals made their way into our lives.

We have been lied to about EVERYTHING and those who still think that the cigarettes are what cause cancer are gullible and don't use logical thinking. How many children and non-smokers have to die before people wake up?

Covid is the new cigarette...heart attack?...nope, died of covid. Car accident?...nope, died of covid. It's pretty obvious. If you are going to be truly awake you have to shed ALL of their lies and not just pick and choose.
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The huge spike in smokers lung cancer in the USA was caused by the open air nuclear testing of the 50's and 60's.

REALLY.
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I believe it.
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I will testify that I had full blown Ulcerative Pan Colitis. Extremely bad bleeding. After my first colonoscopy doctor called my wife to make sure everything was in order because I would soon die. Didn't know how long. Only thing that kept me alive was codeine and high steroids. Total misery. Well guess what it all started after I stopped smoking. After some time got tired of the battle and went back to smoking.

Guess what full blown remission. No meds. Went on with my life raised a daughter and put her thru college debt free. That started in 1990 and still smoking and going strong.
Wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then.

If the more I know, the more I know I don’t know, then do I truly know what I know because I know I don’t?

You cannot reach a correct conclusion if you begin with an incorrect assumption
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I will testify that I had full blown Ulcerative Pan Colitis. Extremely bad bleeding. After my first colonoscopy doctor called my wife to make sure everything was in order because I would soon die. Didn't know how long. Only thing that kept me alive was codeine and high steroids. Total misery. Well guess what it all started after I stopped smoking. After some time got tired of the battle and went back to smoking.

Guess what full blown remission. No meds. Went on with my life raised a daughter and put her thru college debt free. That started in 1990 and still smoking and going strong.
Wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then.

If the more I know, the more I know I don’t know, then do I truly know what I know because I know I don’t?

You cannot reach a correct conclusion if you begin with an incorrect assumption
ThePassenger

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99% of the persons i know who had the covid are non-smokers and took the vaxx.

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Re: There must be something good about cigarettes
Why else would the government want you off them. It’s not like the government loves you

Something to do with blood or do cigarettes protect you in some way hmm
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The nicotine kills parasites. Nicotine is basis for many insecticides and other chemicals.
Justme C'est Moi

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I will testify that I had full blown Ulcerative Pan Colitis. Extremely bad bleeding. After my first colonoscopy doctor called my wife to make sure everything was in order because I would soon die. Didn't know how long. Only thing that kept me alive was codeine and high steroids. Total misery. Well guess what it all started after I stopped smoking. After some time got tired of the battle and went back to smoking.

Guess what full blown remission. No meds. Went on with my life raised a daughter and put her thru college debt free. That started in 1990 and still smoking and going strong.
 Quoting: VerB


There was an episode of "House" where he prescribed smoking 2 cigarettes a day to someone that had the same problem.



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Re: There must be something good about cigarettes
The OP makes a good point though, all the bullshit aside
he government has no interests in us living past a "useful" age and becoming a burden on them


So if smoking croaked you , they'd encourage it, like gay sex.
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I will testify that I had full blown Ulcerative Pan Colitis. Extremely bad bleeding. After my first colonoscopy doctor called my wife to make sure everything was in order because I would soon die. Didn't know how long. Only thing that kept me alive was codeine and high steroids. Total misery. Well guess what it all started after I stopped smoking. After some time got tired of the battle and went back to smoking.

Guess what full blown remission. No meds. Went on with my life raised a daughter and put her thru college debt free. That started in 1990 and still smoking and going strong.
 Quoting: VerB


There was an episode of "House" where he prescribed smoking 2 cigarettes a day to someone that had the same problem.


 Quoting: Justme C'est Moi


Thanks I'll be watching that.
Wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then.

If the more I know, the more I know I don’t know, then do I truly know what I know because I know I don’t?

You cannot reach a correct conclusion if you begin with an incorrect assumption
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Re: There must be something good about cigarettes
Why else would the government want you off them. It’s not like the government loves you

Something to do with blood or do cigarettes protect you in some way hmm
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80359482


The nicotine kills parasites. Nicotine is basis for many insecticides and other chemicals.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78943858


This is true.

Another thing it does is cause the lungs to secret mucous, which is them expelled from the lungs bringing viruses and whatever else you have breathed in out with it. That hacking up mucous seems real bad, but is it really?



I have the "flu" ONE TIME in over 50 years, and it was when I quit smoking.
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10/22/2021 11:44 AM
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Re: There must be something good about cigarettes
Why else would the government want you off them. It’s not like the government loves you

Something to do with blood or do cigarettes protect you in some way hmm
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80359482


Like everything, there are two sides to it. Small quantity very good, too much will kill you.
 Quoting: Adragon


Why would the government want you off them?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80359482


The funny thing about that is, they don't.

The tobacco industry was largely nationalized through the 1998 Master Settlement Agreement. The Tobacco companies pay ~60% of their profits to federal and state governments, in perpetuity. This funding is a huge part of state budgets.

Which is why they immediately kill any successful alternative to smoking cessation, like vaping, that gives you the same sensation as smoking with 95% less of the harmful chemicals and no combustion, thus no carcinogens, which are your main proponents of lung cancer.

If the government wanted people off cigarettes, they would just ban them. But, they cannot, as their statewide budgets rely on Tobacco profits to continue working at current levels.

And that doesn't even touch on the fact that big pharma doesn't want you to quit either. Cancer and Cancer treatments are a multi-billion dollar a year industry. They have zero incentive to cure or stem off these diseases.
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10/22/2021 11:46 AM
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It would be interesting to see the stats on covid 19 deaths and smokers.

I'll bet they get it and die at much reduced rates over the general population.

What do you want to bet?
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Re: There must be something good about cigarettes
I’ve been fully aware that something is good about tobacco since the church conformed to such a ridiculous rule. After all Gods says every green plant is good. Then in a surprising way I learned.

I learned we are all under biological warfare in every chemical we use in our homes, stores etc. it’s counter is tobacco and essential oils. The counter for all EMF is lead paint.

Yes you can die from emphysema, you can die from too much of anything! Your will die! It’s guaranteed from the day you were born.

Grow up people! Paint with EMF paint NOT bought from Amazon because they water it down! Burn ancient tobacco, clean with essential oils, bless your home daily in these things. Protect your self from this evil, great evil day!
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10/22/2021 11:48 AM
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The OP makes a good point though, all the bullshit aside
he government has no interests in us living past a "useful" age and becoming a burden on them


So if smoking croaked you , they'd encourage it, like gay sex.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81028774


hesright
Justme C'est Moi

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Re: There must be something good about cigarettes
I will testify that I had full blown Ulcerative Pan Colitis. Extremely bad bleeding. After my first colonoscopy doctor called my wife to make sure everything was in order because I would soon die. Didn't know how long. Only thing that kept me alive was codeine and high steroids. Total misery. Well guess what it all started after I stopped smoking. After some time got tired of the battle and went back to smoking.

Guess what full blown remission. No meds. Went on with my life raised a daughter and put her thru college debt free. That started in 1990 and still smoking and going strong.
 Quoting: VerB


There was an episode of "House" where he prescribed smoking 2 cigarettes a day to someone that had the same problem.


 Quoting: Justme C'est Moi


Thanks I'll be watching that.
 Quoting: VerB


If you have a streaming device you can watch any house episode for free on the Peacock channel.

Last Edited by JustmeTX on 10/22/2021 11:48 AM
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Re: There must be something good about cigarettes
Why else would the government want you off them. It’s not like the government loves you

Something to do with blood or do cigarettes protect you in some way hmm
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80359482


Like everything, there are two sides to it. Small quantity very good, too much will kill you.
 Quoting: Adragon


Why would the government want you off them?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80359482


The funny thing about that is, they don't.

The tobacco industry was largely nationalized through the 1998 Master Settlement Agreement. The Tobacco companies pay ~60% of their profits to federal and state governments, in perpetuity. This funding is a huge part of state budgets.

Which is why they immediately kill any successful alternative to smoking cessation, like vaping, that gives you the same sensation as smoking with 95% less of the harmful chemicals and no combustion, thus no carcinogens, which are your main proponents of lung cancer.

If the government wanted people off cigarettes, they would just ban them. But, they cannot, as their statewide budgets rely on Tobacco profits to continue working at current levels.

And that doesn't even touch on the fact that big pharma doesn't want you to quit either. Cancer and Cancer treatments are a multi-billion dollar a year industry. They have zero incentive to cure or stem off these diseases.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77889465


yep, the next time you drive over a new bridge or down a new road, keep in mind, smokers built it.

We are the most heavily taxed group in the USA, an average of around 40 dollars per week every week, with 90 million smokers
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10/22/2021 11:49 AM
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THanks for all the responses. No more time to respond

hf
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10/22/2021 11:54 AM
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Re: There must be something good about cigarettes
Smoking may kill me, I'm not saying it won't, something that can be blamed on smoking probably will


You have to die of something. I enjoy it. Some people like skiing down a mountain or jumping out of a plane, and it could kill them. But they take the risk because life is short.



I knew two smokers in their 90's who died of lung cancer.

I should be so lucky.

epiclol
But I also knew three people who died of it and neither of them smoked at all.
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10/22/2021 11:57 AM
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Thread: Pentagon hopes nicotine plant can 'cure' chemical weapons effects
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10/22/2021 11:58 AM
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Re: There must be something good about cigarettes
nicotine covers ace2 receptors, also all man made viruses are cultivated in tobacco and dont work on smokers
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Nicotine disables the s2 spike protien in the china virus.

There's an s1 and an s2 spike protien.

S1 is only disabled by ivermectin.
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Re: There must be something good about cigarettes
And it is like 3 times more weighing then oxygen ?
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smoking causes cancer was a psyop to cover up and scapegoat the above ground nuke testing
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Tobacco is one of four sacred medicines the indigenous used.

The others being cedar, sage and sweetgrass.

Tobacco(gods medicine), was used to treat chest infections and congestions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80699649


Got any links? DId they use it for anything else?


My grandfather smoked since his teens and he lasted until his 90s
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80359482


Those things that like to go swimming in people's bodies. Nicotine probably stops that
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80359482


nicotine is a strong insecticide. so maybe you're on to something.
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Re: There must be something good about cigarettes
too much focus is put on nicotine too.

nicotine is NOTHING. as any vaper can tell you.

but burning tobacco? several hundred thousand chemicals!
yummy! wheeeeeeeeeeeee! that's the real hook. those many unnamed chemicals and combustion byproducts.
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nicotine covers ace2 receptors, also all man made viruses are cultivated in tobacco and dont work on smokers
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I got covid and I smoke
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nicotine covers ace2 receptors, also all man made viruses are cultivated in tobacco and dont work on smokers
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I got covid and I smoke
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COVID? Who told you it was COVID? Or was it the flu. It’s becoming obvious to me the only peopl getting COVID are the vaxxx’d.
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Re: There must be something good about cigarettes
Wonder how many people who smoke are fire signs?

I’m a Leo and have smoked since my teens.

I consider the smoke as sending my prayers to Heaven.

I also think it makes us taste bad to the “feeders” or vampires.

It helps me to focus and I use it as an excuse to get away from people to “take a smoke break.”

And why are the longest lived people smokers? I saw an article about an indigenous person who died at 109 years who was a lifelong smoker.

Something is fishy here…
 Quoting: Jroy


There is some truth to what you have written.
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There have been many reports of menthol cigarettes stopping you or significantly lowering your chances of getting covid. The reports have been posted here. And yes it's obviously factual as the gov is doing anything they can to stop you from beating covid your way. It seems to mainly be menthols that lower your chances of catching covid. And oddly enough the gov only wants to ban menthol cigarettes, because they care about you and your health.
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A nicotinic hypothesis for Covid-19 with preventive and therapeutic implications

[link to comptes-rendus.academie-sciences.fr (secure)]
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Re: There must be something good about cigarettes
Why else would the government want you off them. It’s not like the government loves you

Something to do with blood or do cigarettes protect you in some way hmm
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80359482


No. You remember when it was prohibited to show smoking on the movie screen? Not anymore! Netflix and Prime vids are full of smoking.

Also "a small amount is good" theory is wrong. Consider, tobacco is the most addictive substances of all.


(I admit, I hate second hand smoke, and it may have effected my opinion)

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