BREAKING UPDATE: Gun Alec Baldwin Fired on the Movie Set Contained 'Live Round,' Prop Masters Union Says

This would make a great 'Columbo' episode.

How the fuck does this happen?

If this isn't first degree murder I don't know what is. So they pretend it was an oops so he gets away with it? Good friggin grief.

Libtard cucks don't know how to shut their mouths.

Or be intelligent.

This sort of shit will continue to happen until they die either from the vaxx or the consequences of their own stupidity.

It's not actually. It's down to the weapons tech.

Also what the hell they doing using firearms with an actual firing mechanism. There is no need.

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You are worthless, Alec Baldwin
You failed in every way and now my stock in you has fallen.
Your career is stalling and you're worthless, Alec Baldwin
That's why I blew your head off
And your children are all Baldwin

Mutual combatants, obviously

Kim Foxx has led the way...

Notes from an old hand:

A "prop" can be a "practical", meaning a working item. Like a lamp. Sometimes the actor turns on a lamp but it only cues a light, sometimes it is a "practical" and the lamp works.

Guns on set would be handled by an 'armorer'. A "real" or "practical" gun may be used. Especially in an "indie" movie, with its lower budget. Old colt .45's in the collection of the armorer are cheaper than manufacturing a fake that looks like an old-timey western 'peace-maker'.

Having worked with guns on indie films, I have seen the armorer work with actors, giving them a quick tutorial and SAFETY LESSON. Rule One is always: 'treat every gun like it is loaded.' Did Baldwin's status lead to the skipping of this important step? Or was he just not paying attention?

There is no acceptable reason for a live round on set. As a previous poster noted, squibs would be used on any targets (people or things) and blanks in the weapon. So it is likely more like what happened to Brandon Lee, a wad from a blank did not discharge from the barrel, and the next shot "cleared" the barrel but with added pressure and velocity. Perhaps they were lining up a shot, the director and the D.P. standing next to each other or in line with each other, very close to the actor and weapon, intending a close-up. Perhaps the camera was rolling and the D.P. was operating the camera (often the case in Indie productions).

I once saw a director (crappy Spanish horror low-budget guy) pick up a pistol (practical), put it on the belly of the armorer's pregnant wife/girlfriend, and pull the trigger. I was freaked, but she didn't react. He was laughing as he walked away and she told me she didn't freak because "George would never have left a loaded (even with a blank) gun lying on the table" so she knew it was empty. Still, violating Rule One. Did Baldwin violate Rule One and jokingly pull the trigger while pointing the gun at his director and D.P.?

Hard to believe even Baldwin would be that stupid. BUT, if he really said (as has been rumored/reported) "no one's ever handed me a hot gun!" then he very well may have done it. Otherwise that statement makes no sense (i.e., he wouldn't be saying that if they were actually filming or about to film).

Questions: were the D.P. and director at the camera? Were they working with their viewfinders deciding on camera position and lens length while the actor/actors were rehearsing? A rehearsal would involve an unloaded gun, if the camera was ready, the gun would have been loaded and "fire in the hole" announced, locking down the set (no movement, no talking) and warning everyone to expect a loud noise.

If we do not learn the EXACT DETAILS I will assume cover-up.

Insurance company should payoff the production and this film should never be released, in my opinion. But The Crow and The Twilight Zone Movie both were released, so it will likely depend on how much is in the can (if they were close to wrap they may continue). I thought when Vic Morrow and two young child actors died on set that John Landis should have never worked again. Tragic then, tragic now. Lots of unanswered questions at this moment.

The AC is probably getting calls from all the media right about now and being offered big bucks to tell all.

I could see how this happened the first time with Lee, but JFC in a movie big enough to have Baldwin in it... you would think professionals would be involved and something like this couldn't happen.

False flag to put an end to guns in films????

What sort of moronic alchoholic butt lick fires a gun he didnt load himself?

Something is very wrong here.

I have owned movie ‘prop-guns’

They will not accept or fire a ‘live-round’

This is regulated by the ATF.

This story stinks of something more.....

Wrong. If a weapon is in your hand, prop or otherwise, then YOU are responsible. That's where Hollywood prop/set safety FAILS.

The articles I've read thus far state this situation is still very much under investigation. I don't see how Baldwin skates on this.

You did an excellent job of explaining how it works. Thanks!

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for one, you would use a blank. Two, hes been an actor for how many years?, blanks only have gunpowder and a flat top, there is no "bullet", so him chambering the round....he shouldve known. im gonna lean on its an accident but still. He was also given several blank rounds to try out before that so yet again. Also if he chambered all 6 rounds, only one of them being live is very sketch and a miracle that one was chambered.

Check the shell casing and see who's finger prints are on it.

It was a tier 1 movie - less than 6 million budget. Baldwin was the producer so he's responsible for the budget. Did not hire a prop master to save $$$.

exactly

He's always been a violent, drunk, drugged up petulant like beehatch. It was only a matter of time before he got someone killed or did it himself.

No excuse, its 2021 and he wants us to believe the human race can't develop a fake gun that makes a few sparks yet is incapable of chambering a live round.

Then you're a dumbass. There shouldn't be loaded weapons as props. Period. If there is it's definitely not on the actor to know

I hate the guy just as much as anyone with a brain does but this take is really stupid

Alec Baldwin

So a prop gun is a real gun?

So it wasn't a "prop" gun at all as real bullets shouldn't be able to fit into a prop gun.

I read it's because film-makers often want to have a scene where the gunman fires into the camera

Which begs a bigger question:
It was a wild wild western film. If there was no prop master knowing real guns etc were going to be used, seems like that’s willful intent.
Or willful negligence.


Last Edited by Eyeball Replacement on 10/22/2021 02:46 PM