Alec Baldwin’s Negligent Discharge: Unhinged Actor May Face Involuntary Manslaughter Charges | |
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User ID: 79047905 United States 10/23/2021 06:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Except this wasn’t simply a rubber prop gun. It was supposed to have blanks. The armorer called out “Cold Gun” when giving it to him. It was the armorer’s fault. Were you there? If so, why were you there? How would you otherwise know what was or was not said? I exist. |
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User ID: 79047905 United States 10/23/2021 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's the deal with Baldwin... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80591522 Santa Fe is as far and extreme left as Berkeley is. Although he's clearly guilty of Negligent Homicide (at a minimum) the DA might not charge him. If there is evidence of a chargeable offense, any DA who refuses to charge or send to a Grand Jury should have to stand in place of the released party. The world would quickly be a better place if that were so. I exist. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38907753 United States 10/23/2021 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's the deal with Baldwin... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80591522 Santa Fe is as far and extreme left as Berkeley is. Although he's clearly guilty of Negligent Homicide (at a minimum) the DA might not charge him. If there is evidence of a chargeable offense, any DA who refuses to charge or send to a Grand Jury should have to stand in place of the released party. The world would quickly be a better place if that were so. :warp: On federal land so it could be a federal count of man 2 and reckless endangerment so maybe 4 years reduced to 3. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81021138 United States 10/23/2021 06:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hollywood actors what exactly is it that they do? oh yeah they pretend for a living Baldwin brothers of hollywood fakest ridiculous scripted make-believe story yet this one probably go on and on and on... change the channel mabel |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 65852808 United States 10/23/2021 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In New Mexico, if he was charged with involuntary manslaughter, he would receive at maximum 18 months under the circumstances! That automatically gets reduced by 50%. Thats 9 months! Add the fact he is a celebrity, with “overcrowding” in corrections, he serves 30-60 days in county jail! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68965544 That’s for the criminal phase. After that comes the civil phase where the families of the dead and maimed go after his dumb ass for everything he owns (like Ron Goldman did to OJ). They’re gonna take everything he’s got - plus future earnings. Bubba is gonna get himself a piece of baldwin pie in the showers |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79889820 Canada 10/23/2021 06:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All u shit fucking retard commies can't understand that a .44 caliber round is very powerful and can most likely clear 2 humans, give or take. AC men are neutered hamsters. Quoting: Coy That doesn't explain why it was loaded with real ammunition, why that ammo was even on set, or why a prop gun wasn't used, nor does it explain why it was aimed at the director, nor why he pulled the trigger. It doesn't explain why the gun wasn't checked by the armorer and double checked by the second armorer. |
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User ID: 79047905 United States 10/23/2021 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Very unlikely. The one who really needs to worry is the young lady acting as the armorer. She is on record as saying she was uncomfortable with the job as she was worried about her abilities to carry it out successfully. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76509910 The gun was given to him as unloaded. Perhaps if they can show he was acting in callous disregard to safety and behaving foolishly and pointing the gun at everyone they could charge him but doubtful. Nobody had intent so at most manslaughter but doubtful any sort of jail time but a lifetime of knowing what happened would be punishment enough. I can’t imagine the victims willing to have someone jailed or the family. A tragic accident. Now monetarily he is on the hook three different ways, as a producer of the film, as the trigger puller, and as the one with the largest bank account. Insurance and lawyers are going to eat them whole I exist. |
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User ID: 61017279 United States 10/23/2021 07:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I personally don't care for Baldwin. I really thought his "work" in the movie with Anthony Hopkins called "The Edge" was his best for his career. However, I think we will eventually find out Baldwin was "set up" with this live round of ammunition in an otherwise semi-harmless prop gun. Someone had a reason to really DESTROY Baldwin or the man's credibility. He has been supportive of his wife's "ANTI-VAX" position--it could be a BIG PHARMA or BIG VAX "message" to: SHUT UP or something worse will happen next!" They work like that, you know. It's MEDICAL MAFIA. The Oracle's Cookie Baldwin fishing during a "break" in filming the movie "The Edge" (I'm kidding.) "An evil enemy will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes." – Sun Tzu"...."DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK!" Thread: Partial crustal shift and the Sun / earth , new EARTH UNDER FIRE video pg 116 Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, Thread: UPdated Pg.2: Davinci Equinox Code 3:"What the EQUINOX SHADOW Knows"--Equinox Triggers and Solar Micro-Nova. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78906955 United States 10/23/2021 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In New Mexico, if he was charged with involuntary manslaughter, he would receive at maximum 18 months under the circumstances! That automatically gets reduced by 50%. Thats 9 months! Add the fact he is a celebrity, with “overcrowding” in corrections, he serves 30-60 days in county jail! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68965544 With that said, let’s look at some possibilities. Prop guns,cannot, under law, fire an actual cartridge, the bore is to small, plus they usually have changes to the magazine. They were filming in the desert in a rocky area. The production Armorers (there are always two, unless they broke the law) are required to clear, check, inspect, and load blanks prior to giving it to the actor! However, with that said, Alec should have double checked the weapon regardless! Let’s say the armorers did all the checks, inspections, loaded the pistol with blanks and while on the way to give him said weapon, they dropped it in the rock! This could have easily lodged a large rock or multiple rocks into the barrel! They think it’s no big deal, and BOOM! Catastrophe! No rock magically worked its way into the barrel. And production often uses real guns that will fire real bullets, but are supposed to be loaded with blanks. From Reuters - Alec Baldwin was handed what was described as a safe "cold gun" on the set of his movie "Rust", but the gun contained live rounds when it was fired, according to details of the police investigation into the fatal shooting released on Friday. People in Hollywood are retarded and live in a fantasy land. I would bet the gun handlers and or crew decided to have some real target practice with real bullets after the filming wrapped the day before, and they forgot to unload and reload with blanks. The really stupid part is Baldwin was probably waving his gun around jokingly and pulled the trigger while pointed at the director. That is negligence. If he was drinking at the time, he is totally screwed. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 81003363 Germany 10/23/2021 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In New Mexico, if he was charged with involuntary manslaughter, he would receive at maximum 18 months under the circumstances! That automatically gets reduced by 50%. Thats 9 months! Add the fact he is a celebrity, with “overcrowding” in corrections, he serves 30-60 days in county jail! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68965544 That’s for the criminal phase. After that comes the civil phase where the families of the dead and maimed go after his dumb ass for everything he owns (like Ron Goldman did to OJ). They’re gonna take everything he’s got - plus future earnings. His fake Spanish wifey Eeeelaria is going to regert having so many kids when they have no money left. Divorce in 3..2..1... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68965544 United States 10/23/2021 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All u shit fucking retard commies can't understand that a .44 caliber round is very powerful and can most likely clear 2 humans, give or take. AC men are neutered hamsters. Quoting: Coy Who said anything about an actual .44 being discharged? You said that! Nobody else said that! Of course a real round can kill, or injure multiple people! This is what’s according to production, a prop gun, which cannot fire a .44! It’s impossible! So they cut corners using a real firearm using only blanks to save money, or more likely, they had a prop gun with something lodged in the barrel that wasn’t double checked by the armorers! Yep, two! You need two weapon safety Armorers that are state certified on all shoots for insurance to pay out! Alec may not go to jail, yet he, or should I say his company producing it! Will get sued into oblivion if they broke the law, which we just don’t know yet. If the Armorers were not certified, he’s fucked, if as I stated previously, they dropped the prop gun on some rock and debris and that is the cause, maybe no one pays! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68965544 United States 10/23/2021 07:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In New Mexico, if he was charged with involuntary manslaughter, he would receive at maximum 18 months under the circumstances! That automatically gets reduced by 50%. Thats 9 months! Add the fact he is a celebrity, with “overcrowding” in corrections, he serves 30-60 days in county jail! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68965544 With that said, let’s look at some possibilities. Prop guns,cannot, under law, fire an actual cartridge, the bore is to small, plus they usually have changes to the magazine. They were filming in the desert in a rocky area. The production Armorers (there are always two, unless they broke the law) are required to clear, check, inspect, and load blanks prior to giving it to the actor! However, with that said, Alec should have double checked the weapon regardless! Let’s say the armorers did all the checks, inspections, loaded the pistol with blanks and while on the way to give him said weapon, they dropped it in the rock! This could have easily lodged a large rock or multiple rocks into the barrel! They think it’s no big deal, and BOOM! Catastrophe! No rock magically worked its way into the barrel. And production often uses real guns that will fire real bullets, but are supposed to be loaded with blanks. From Reuters - Alec Baldwin was handed what was described as a safe "cold gun" on the set of his movie "Rust", but the gun contained live rounds when it was fired, according to details of the police investigation into the fatal shooting released on Friday. People in Hollywood are retarded and live in a fantasy land. I would bet the gun handlers and or crew decided to have some real target practice with real bullets after the filming wrapped the day before, and they forgot to unload and reload with blanks. The really stupid part is Baldwin was probably waving his gun around jokingly and pulled the trigger while pointed at the director. That is negligence. If he was drinking at the time, he is totally screwed. Live firearms, not props, must be conducted on RANGE! In a controlled setting! If you are correct, and they used a non modified weapon for the movie, not only are there financial damages, there could be criminal charges of the armorers! I still don’t think Alec suffers criminal charges! He bank account however? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 81040893 United States 10/23/2021 07:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Alec is hosed no matter what, either criminal charges or civil lawsuit and he'll be a pariah. He's 68, with anger issues and now facing a dismal future. He might find a way to kill himself like a car wreck or overdose. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79363073 United States 10/23/2021 07:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I doesn't matter who you are, if your going to be the person firing a gun, it is your responsibility to check it out. After all the prop gun or was it a real gun when fired and causes an explosion. I would want to make damn sure the gun I was in control of is safe. I realize he is an actor and he's busy acting....but he should have still given that gun a look see before aiming at someone and pulling the trigger. It's not rocket science and I'm sure Alec is not a total dumb ass. No way can he come out of this totally innocent, he bears a lot of the responsibility for fooling around with guns. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78906955 United States 10/23/2021 07:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In New Mexico, if he was charged with involuntary manslaughter, he would receive at maximum 18 months under the circumstances! That automatically gets reduced by 50%. Thats 9 months! Add the fact he is a celebrity, with “overcrowding” in corrections, he serves 30-60 days in county jail! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68965544 With that said, let’s look at some possibilities. Prop guns,cannot, under law, fire an actual cartridge, the bore is to small, plus they usually have changes to the magazine. They were filming in the desert in a rocky area. The production Armorers (there are always two, unless they broke the law) are required to clear, check, inspect, and load blanks prior to giving it to the actor! However, with that said, Alec should have double checked the weapon regardless! Let’s say the armorers did all the checks, inspections, loaded the pistol with blanks and while on the way to give him said weapon, they dropped it in the rock! This could have easily lodged a large rock or multiple rocks into the barrel! They think it’s no big deal, and BOOM! Catastrophe! No rock magically worked its way into the barrel. And production often uses real guns that will fire real bullets, but are supposed to be loaded with blanks. From Reuters - Alec Baldwin was handed what was described as a safe "cold gun" on the set of his movie "Rust", but the gun contained live rounds when it was fired, according to details of the police investigation into the fatal shooting released on Friday. People in Hollywood are retarded and live in a fantasy land. I would bet the gun handlers and or crew decided to have some real target practice with real bullets after the filming wrapped the day before, and they forgot to unload and reload with blanks. The really stupid part is Baldwin was probably waving his gun around jokingly and pulled the trigger while pointed at the director. That is negligence. If he was drinking at the time, he is totally screwed. Live firearms, not props, must be conducted on RANGE! In a controlled setting! If you are correct, and they used a non modified weapon for the movie, not only are there financial damages, there could be criminal charges of the armorers! I still don’t think Alec suffers criminal charges! He bank account however? At times on sets, they do use actual firearms capable of firing real bullets. Here is more of the story. They had another incident on the same set prior... "Set had experienced two prior accidental firearm discharges, anonymous worker claims" [link to www.independent.co.uk (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81040336 United States 10/23/2021 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And he’s damn sure responsible for what his hand and fingers do. GET GUN POINT IT AT WOMAN PULL TRIGGER There’s no getting out of that. The DA may be a fucknut leftist to the nth degree and refuse to prosecute him, but that doesn’t change the fact he’s guilty as FUCK! BINGO.....HE ALSO HAD KNOWNLEDGE ABOUT FIREARMS SAFETY ON THE SET WITH PLENTY OF EXPERIENCE! YET HE STILL POINTED A GUN AT A CREW MEMBER FOR NO LOGICAL REASON AND PULLED THE TRIGGER BEFORE HE CHECKED IT... THIRD DEGREE MURDER. AT LEAST TEN YEARS IN PRISON WITH NO EARLY RELEASE! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80552111 United States 10/23/2021 07:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Guilty or not, the man has a face that begs to be punched. Always looks like he's trying to kiss the air. He does it intentionally. I guess he thinks it makes him look cool. What a self-obsessed fudge packer. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80178790 United States 10/23/2021 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I doesn't matter who you are, if your going to be the person firing a gun, it is your responsibility to check it out. After all the prop gun or was it a real gun when fired and causes an explosion. I would want to make damn sure the gun I was in control of is safe. I realize he is an actor and he's busy acting....but he should have still given that gun a look see before aiming at someone and pulling the trigger. It's not rocket science and I'm sure Alec is not a total dumb ass. No way can he come out of this totally innocent, he bears a lot of the responsibility for fooling around with guns. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79363073 Five seconds of due diligence (check the gun) can save someone's lifetime. |
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