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Alec Baldwin’s Negligent Discharge: Unhinged Actor May Face Involuntary Manslaughter Charges | |
Reality Czar dodger007
 User ID: 77690112  United States10/23/2021 01:05 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ding ding ding Was Alec fooling around? Was he in a bad mood because his film crew was quitting and being replaced by locals? Was he being a sarcastic abusive bully because the woman wanted to reshoot a scene? Thus a charge of negligent manslaughter seems applicable At any rate it’s about time this fat aging lout with a fake spanish exhibitionist wife popping out babies with an old man, was finished in the business. Maybe this is it, https://imgur.com/vTbMekZYou can count on America to do the right thing after exhausting every other alternative." Winston Churchill |
| Deplorable NO MORE Michele B
User ID: 81036763 10/23/2021 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rule 1...the gun is ALWAYS LOADED. Always check as soon as someone hands you a gun or you pick up a gun, even if you just saw someone else check it. Quoting: Bloody Peasant! Rule 2...never point a gun at anyone or anything you don't intend to destroy or kill Rule 3...keep your finger off the damn trigger until target is acquired and ready to fire Rule 4...know what's behind your target because YOU are responsible for anyone hurt or killed. Baldwin failed all 4 basic rules and he should be charged with the death of this person. But...but....he’s a lefty, a liberal....he doesn’t LIKE guns! It’s not HIS fault the damn thing killed someone!! And since he doesn’t LIKE guns, why should HE have to know the gun safety rules?!?! Seriously tho, this WILL haunt him the rest of his life. And it couldn’t happen to a nicer guy. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80655867 United States10/23/2021 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's the deal with Baldwin... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80591522 Santa Fe is as far and extreme left as Berkeley is. Although he's clearly guilty of Negligent Homicide (at a minimum) the DA might not charge him. But even if he does, finding a jury in Santa Fe that would convict him is a whole new challenge. They're more likely to line up in hopes of getting his autograph than to convict him. HOWEVER!!! And this is a HUGE HOWEVER!!! Even if he beats the rap like OJ did, there is a Civil Complaint he will have to answer for from the victim's family. THEY ARE GONNA SUE HIS FUCKING ASS THE FUCK OFF like Ron Goldman did to OJ. He will likely lose every fucking thing he owns to include future earnings (like OJ). No way is that family going to walk away saying, "oh, what a tragic 'accident' ." There is no fucking way. Baldwin is gonna get dry-fucked up the ass with a 10 inch strap-on in the Civil case. And you know what will be amazing to watch? He will be fucked to death by a Clinton lawyer! Oh, the irony! That might even be better to watch than a criminal trial. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80574738 United States10/23/2021 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I didn't realize he wasn't acting at the time. So your telling me that he was just fooling around, pointed a gun at the director and pulled the trigger? Is that correct? Trump curse. Fuck that guy, he is and always has been a complete arrogant asshole. |
| Big Duke6
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| 772STi2
User ID: 79611648 United States10/23/2021 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I said the exact same thing yesterday. If you or I did this exact same thing we would be charged with involuntarily manslaughter and end up doing 2-5 in prison. He doesn't get a pass because he's an "actor". The fact that they use real guns with blanks makes it even worse and puts even more blame on Baldwin and crew |
| Big Duke6
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80608675 Canada10/23/2021 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] |
| 772STi2
User ID: 79611648 United States10/23/2021 01:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, they don't...idiot...lol Blanks don't sound right when recorded in real time. Yes they do. What do you think fires the round? I remember 1 person was killed on set years ago when the prop gun was used at the range before hand and had a bad round jammed in the chamber. The pressure from the blank pushed the bullet out. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80634930 United States10/23/2021 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79386003 Canada10/23/2021 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I didn't realize he wasn't acting at the time. So your telling me that he was just fooling around, pointed a gun at the director and pulled the trigger? Is that correct? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80574738 Trump curse. Fuck that guy, he is and always has been a complete arrogant asshole. Actors are not allowed to "fool around" with guns. There are strict rules about having a gun on a set. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78906955 United States10/23/2021 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78412071 United States10/23/2021 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The whole scenario STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57981538 I DO NOT assume this was an accident. NOT AT ALL. Why kill your cinematographer and director ?? Makes zero sense for motive. Anti vaxxer was set up. Why he pointed the barrel that direction and pulled the trigger is a mystery unless the scene called for that shot. Pun intended. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79861361 United States10/23/2021 01:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I work in the entertainment industry and I can tell you live ammunition is completely unnecessary on a film set. The combination of blanks, pyrotechnics, and post production visual FX has completely eliminated the need to ever have real bullets near a film set. |
| The Independent
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77242910 United States10/23/2021 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Prop guns are different from real guns in a number of ways. Some do you have pens, some don’t. The ones that do have blocks. But these guns shoot words. Some of the words that are discharged are chemically induced to create a bang as well. There’s been a number of actors killed on the set from these type of guns. One that comes to mind is Brandon Lee, That one still remains a mystery. There are many theories as to how that particular incident happened, but a lot of people believe there was no accident there. Another incident happened to an actor in the 80s while on the set of his TV show, and his name was Jon-Erik Hexum. This Particular actor was absolutely killed by the wad that discharged from the prop gun. Unfortunately he had no experience and using prop guns, and he aimed the gun toward his own head and acted like he was going to shoot himself not knowing that the wad was going to be discharged - and it killed him on impact. Today there are a number of reasons why this should never happen. That is what makes this case extremely weird. I’m not a big fan of Alec Baldwin, and of all people in the world, He is absolutely the worst person for this to happen to. He is entitled. He is chauvinistic. He’s abusive. He’s violently angry. He’s lashed out at many people, and now he has had a taste of what he’ll probably crave more of. |
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| NLPAstrology
User ID: 80216965 United States10/23/2021 01:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The plot thickens! [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Yes Moran - Adolph Shitler was a Meth-Addict (pervatin) Loser who Invaded Russia in the Winter. Your 'deep research' consisting of Nazi propaganda on Bitchute only suits the dimwitted trailer-dweller. |
| Deplorable NO MORE Michele B
User ID: 81036763 10/23/2021 01:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ding ding ding Was Alec fooling around? . Alec Baldwin does not fool around Was he in a bad mood because his film crew was quitting and being replaced by locals? Alec Baldwin is always in a bad mood. Was he being a sarcastic abusive bully because the woman wanted to reshoot a scene? . Alec Baldwin is always a sarcastic,’abusive bully Thus a charge of negligent manslaughter seems applicable At any rate it’s about time this fat aging lout with a fake spanish exhibitionist wife popping out babies with an old man, was finished in the business. Maybe this is it, https://imgur.com/vTbMekZ |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76793049 United States10/23/2021 01:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Deplorable NO MORE Michele B
User ID: 81036763 10/23/2021 01:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's unverified talk that he was also bitching about Trump at the time. Along with that, he apparently was having problems with the movie crew. Some claim workers walked off as a protest of the set's safety conditions. Baldwin is a nutcase in general. But a combo of his leftwing politics and sweatshop-boss attitude may have made him worse than normal. The Tump curse strikes again. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79144438  Germany10/23/2021 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He is entitled. He is chauvinistic. He’s abusive. He’s violently angry. He’s lashed out at many people, and now he has had a taste of what he’ll probably crave more of. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77242910 I'm curious about the accuracy of claims that around the time he killed the woman, he was ranting about Donald Trump. If so, it possibly was about the political right overall. Maybe Baldwin was resentful of the chant "fuck Joe Biden"? Baldwin, however, is notorious for being unhinged in general. So his sociopathic liberalism may not have played any part in the killing. He is also apparently anti-vaxx, so that may make him in late 2021 less emotionally leftwing than he normally is. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76509910 United States10/23/2021 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Very unlikely. The one who really needs to worry is the young lady acting as the armorer. She is on record as saying she was uncomfortable with the job as she was worried about her abilities to carry it out successfully. The gun was given to him as unloaded. Perhaps if they can show he was acting in callous disregard to safety and behaving foolishly and pointing the gun at everyone they could charge him but doubtful. Nobody had intent so at most manslaughter but doubtful any sort of jail time but a lifetime of knowing what happened would be punishment enough. I can’t imagine the victims willing to have someone jailed or the family. A tragic accident. Now monetarily he is on the hook three different ways, as a producer of the film, as the trigger puller, and as the one with the largest bank account. Insurance and lawyers are going to eat them whole |
| Big Duke6
User ID: 80826057 Canada10/23/2021 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.thegatewaypundit.com (secure)] Quoting: PRISON FOOD FOR DA WIN 81039993 Time to clean up the messy reporting on Alec Baldwin’s negligent shooting of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and director Joel Souza. We still do not know what firearm was used, but the film was being shot on a movie set used principally for 19th Century westerns–Blazing Saddles and Jimmy Stewarts’ The Man From Laramie. So it is highly likely that Baldwin was shooting a revolver and not a semi-automatic pistol (e.g., Glock, Sig Sauer, Berretta). Semi-automatic pistols are a 20th Century invention and became a staple of military equipment after World War II. There are two types of revolvers–Single Action and Double Action. Single Action means that when you pull the trigger the hammer is released and the gun fires. This was in widespread use in the West during the cowboy era. The cylinder that holds the ammunition is not easily removed and you must open a loading gate to insert only one round at a time into the revolver. Double Action is what most people associate with a revolver. That means when you pull the trigger it cocks the hammer and then, as you continue to apply pressure to the trigger, releases the hammer and fires the pistol. There also is no such thing as an “accidental” discharge. If a firearm is fired unintentionally it is negligence. Gun accidents are caused by only two things–ignorance and/or carelessness. If you are holding a pistol, it will not fire unless you put your finger on the trigger. A talented cinematographer is dead because at least two people did not follow the fundamental rules of gun safety–Alec Baldwin and the Assistant Director who handed him the firearm with live ammunition loaded. Then there are questions to be answered by the armorer (the guy or gal in charge of insuring the firearms and ammunition are properly stored when not in use and properly loaded with blank ammunition) and the person in charge of props. The worst thing you can do when handling a gun of any kind is to assume it is unloaded and safe. It is that kind of negligence that gets innocent people killed. That’s what happened in New Mexico to this poor woman. Well stated. Great post Hooefully to serve a point they do something but probs not All productions have a Property Master who is supposed to be certified in handling firearms for purposes of making movies. Sometimes, there might be a second "Armourer" individual handling specifically just the firearms props. Irrespective, one of the above is supposed to always hand off the firearm properly configured with blanks or inert ammunition (just for looks) or live ammunition, and this is supposed to be verified by a similarly certified and skilled Assistant Director. Understand in this instance the Asst. Director called out "cold gun" for the scene shot. This scene presumably called for the firearm to be pointed at or near the camera where the Cinematographer and Director were standing. Last Edited by Big Duke6 on 10/23/2021 01:42 PM |
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| SIRREAL
User ID: 80366175 Canada10/23/2021 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Prop person didn’t pull the trigger. If you have a gun it’s your responsibility to check it make sure it’s not live ammo, don’t point it at people, make sure there is no debris. It’s Baldwins responsibility to check it. Not another man. Whatever remains however improbable must be the truth. Too many Lex Luthers, not enough Bruce Waynes. |
| President-Elect D. Moraniac
Clinging to my guns and Bibles User ID: 76239479 United States10/23/2021 01:30 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It sure would be interesting if we were to learn that Alec Baldwin had been carrying on with his broad, and she had discovered that she was pregnant. And she was demanding that he take responsibility for it. That would be very interesting wouldn’t it? Winter is Coming. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76509910 United States10/23/2021 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He was silencing her. He either was fucking her and didn’t want her to talk. Or he made some advances on her and didn’t want her to talk. Dead people don’t talk. Hopefully she wrote something down about him. Typical stupid theory from the armchair crowd hero. Makes zero sense since he wasn’t the one to load the weapon and therefore would have had no idea it was live. Just stupid |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80980383 United States10/23/2021 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He should face charges because he was the Producer and that makes him responsible. It sounds like the armorer didn't know WTF she was doing. She looks like a far left extremist hipster more concerned about people using the correct pronouns than gun safety. Hiring her was probably negligence in itself. That position should go to a person with extensive gun safety knowledge and from what I have read this woman had no confidence in her ability to handle the responsibilities of this position. |
