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Alec Baldwin’s Negligent Discharge: Unhinged Actor May Face Involuntary Manslaughter Charges

 
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Prop master's negligence on the job you mean?
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Was Alex aware of the issues with crew safety?

Was he aware of the multiple protests and crew walkout on set of this movie?
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Makes no difference - go away pinko
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he's a jeffrey epstein flight regular and a trafficker..

lock him up and throw away the key
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BALDWIN ALWAY A BAD CORPORATE CHARACTER...HIS DEATH IS ALWAYS GOOD...HE IS WALL STREET TYPE OF DEATH...EVERYBODY LOVE IT WHE HE DIE
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Alec loves to mix it up with anyone. He will fight you over a parking spot. Alec is self entitled . He is better than everyone. It was only a matter of time before he killed someone.
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Very unlikely. The one who really needs to worry is the young lady acting as the armorer. She is on record as saying she was uncomfortable with the job as she was worried about her abilities to carry it out successfully.

The gun was given to him as unloaded. Perhaps if they can show he was acting in callous disregard to safety and behaving foolishly and pointing the gun at everyone they could charge him but doubtful.

Nobody had intent so at most manslaughter but doubtful any sort of jail time but a lifetime of knowing what happened would be punishment enough. I can’t imagine the victims willing to have someone jailed or the family. A tragic accident.

Now monetarily he is on the hook three different ways, as a producer of the film, as the trigger puller, and as the one with the largest bank account. Insurance and lawyers are going to eat them whole
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76509910


I read that about the armorer as well. It was negligent to hire her. That position 100% needs to be filled by somebody that knows what they are doing. An NRA member and vet would be ideal.

I also wonder about the sensitivity of the trigger. I was handed a rifle I wasn't familiar with by a friend's dad. He casually said 'it has a real hair trigger' as he gave it to me, but I was young and didn't really understand. I found out all you had to do was touch the rigger and the gun fired. That was the first gun I had fired that did not need quite a bit of force and movement in order to fire. It surprised the hell out of me, so I'm curious about this trigger and how much effort was required to fire it.
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Maybe missed in the conversation. if this wasn’t a lefty/globalists 3rd rate celebrity - he would be in jail, have a quick judgement and be in jail for 1st degree murder.

Anyone familiar with deadly force law knows this. Anyone that has taken a concealed weapons permit class knows this.
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KIM BASSINGER..SHE SAY NO MORE ALEC BALDIN..SHHE END UP HATING HIM
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An everyday American would be sitting in jail right now. It is only that Alec is working in Hollywood. He is entitled and is better than hard working American citizens.
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BALDWIN EFFORTS TO SLAVE BASSINGER...SHE END HIM
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I cannot understand why there would ever be LIVE AMMO on a movie set?

Someone please enlighten me?
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On a movie set, the gun is called "live" or "hot" even if it contains blanks. It's called "cold" if it's unloaded.

Apparently it contained bullets, not blanks even though the prop master said it was "cold".

Of course he shouldn't have pointed it at anyone and pulled the trigger even if he thought it was unloaded.
 Quoting: Monty Python


Sort of depends if they were filming a scene no? If the scene calls for pointing at the camera and pulling the trigger, well that's what the actor does.

At or near the camera is where you might expect to find the Cinematographer and Director, who were both shot in the incident.
 Quoting: Big Duke6


NOT SO MUCH ANYMORE! For several years it's been the practice of many Directors to use remote monitors and direct scenes away from the actors. Both Oliver Stone and James Cameron famously sit in a separate tent doing this. This serves two purposes: 1. it give the actors more freedom without having someone breathing down their neck and 2. the director can see exactly what the camera does. It all depends upon what type of playback setup was being used on RUST.

But, that still begs the question of why that gun would even be pointed in the direction of ANY crew member? And of course, why it was loaded with live cartridges in the first place? Guns on-set are ALWAYS kept under lock-and-key and strictly supervised the entire time they aren't; industry standards dictate they are not to be left unattended for a split second.

Having said that...

It's just possible that -asshole that he is- Baldwin demanded to rehearse with live ammo to get the "feel" of the scene and some Coked-up flunky forgot to reload the weapon with blanks. As scab labor just might do... since IATSE filed a grievance against the production for using non-union hires as well as housing some crew 50 miles away from the location.

There's a lot MORE to this story than we've heard so far and as the Exec-Producer/star, Baldwin's gonna' have to fall on the sword on this one, especially since he was also the triggerman!

But, wanna' bet he'll never do time for the crime? If this goes to trial it'll be an instant circus: not an OJ three-ringer, but still a media show. And I expect that grade-A bastard Baldwin to walk at the end.
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Rule 1...the gun is ALWAYS LOADED. Always check as soon as someone hands you a gun or you pick up a gun, even if you just saw someone else check it.

Rule 2...never point a gun at anyone or anything you don't intend to destroy or kill

Rule 3...keep your finger off the damn trigger until target is acquired and ready to fire

Rule 4...know what's behind your target because YOU are responsible for anyone hurt or killed.

Baldwin failed all 4 basic rules and he should be charged with the death of this person.
 Quoting: Bloody Peasant!


But...but....he’s a lefty, a liberal....he doesn’t LIKE guns! It’s not HIS fault the damn thing killed someone!! And since he doesn’t LIKE guns, why should HE have to know the gun safety rules?!?!

Seriously tho, this WILL haunt him the rest of his life. And it couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.
 Quoting: Deplorable NO MORE Michele B


It will not haunt him emotionally, psychopaths don’t have emotions. Might haunt him via meme though… and we should never let it die.

He dedicated his life to being a snide pinko - the only victim was two lady’s and the bullet. May his life be shit till the day he dies and may it get worse after that in hell.
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THE MOST CONTROLLIHG IDIOT IS ALEC BALDWIN KIM BASSINGER DEFEAT HIM...HE SO REPELLIHNG KIM BASSINGER NOT WANT SEX WITH HIM
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Shouldn't guns be totally unregulated if the shooter happens to be a republican? Can you prosecute Baldwin just because he made a mockery of your God on SNL?
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NOTE: NO prop guns contain a firing pin. This was murder
 Quoting: Sentinel2021


Except this wasn’t simply a rubber prop gun. It was supposed to have blanks. The armorer called out “Cold Gun” when giving it to him. It was the armorer’s fault.
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The user was negligent.
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ALEC BALWIN IS WALL STREET NIGHMARE
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No way they can spin this around, he was the shooter, and he is responsible!!
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Funny isn't it that leftists who are so self-righteous about gun control are so negligent with them.
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Rule 1...the gun is ALWAYS LOADED. Always check as soon as someone hands you a gun or you pick up a gun, even if you just saw someone else check it.

Rule 2...never point a gun at anyone or anything you don't intend to destroy or kill

Rule 3...keep your finger off the damn trigger until target is acquired and ready to fire

Rule 4...know what's behind your target because YOU are responsible for anyone hurt or killed.

Baldwin failed all 4 basic rules and he should be charged with the death of this person.
 Quoting: Bloody Peasant!


But...but....he’s a lefty, a liberal....he doesn’t LIKE guns! It’s not HIS fault the damn thing killed someone!! And since he doesn’t LIKE guns, why should HE have to know the gun safety rules?!?!

Seriously tho, this WILL haunt him the rest of his life. And it couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.
 Quoting: Deplorable NO MORE Michele B


Maybe, but maybe not.
He’s already blaming whomever it was that handed him a hot gun.
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LETS GET ONE THING STRAIGHT RIGHT NOW....GANGSTERS GOT GUNS AND THEY KILL..BUT...THE AMERICAN PEOPLE GOT SO MANY GUNS THEY DEFEAT MAFIA..THEY GOT MORE GUNS THAN ANY ARMY...GOOD LUCK IN YOUR STORY AGAINST THEM...THEY SHOOT YOU AND YOURS ASWS\\\\
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righton5
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Was she tied to the railroad track?
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BALDWIN DID THAT AND HE'S NOT DENYING IT.
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There's unverified talk that he was also bitching about Trump at the time.

Along with that, he apparently was having problems with the movie crew. Some claim workers walked off as a protest of the set's safety conditions.

Baldwin is a nutcase in general. But a combo of his leftwing politics and sweatshop-boss attitude may have made him worse than normal.
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The Tump curse strikes again.
 Quoting: Deplorable NO MORE Michele B


That’s DAMN RIGHT!
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Remember when he called for the murder of the sitting Speaker of the House during the Clinton impeachment?

he is a very dangerous man
 Quoting: Loup Garou


Yep. And even if he were of the political right, but still prone to outbursts like that, I'd continue to think he was and is a nutcase.

Beyond his leftism, he's also a certifiable asshole.
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WOW...THE AMERCICAN PEOPLE ARE SO STRONG...THEY ARE OLD TESTEMANT STRONG...SURELY THE ARE OF GOD
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I said the exact same thing yesterday. If you or I did this exact same thing we would be charged with involuntarily manslaughter and end up doing 2-5 in prison. He doesn't get a pass because he's an "actor". The fact that they use real guns with blanks makes it even worse and puts even more blame on Baldwin and crew
 Quoting: 772STi2


In a sane world, you’re right, but this was in Santa Fe NM.
Santa Fe is as fucknut leftist as Berkeley is.

The DA might choose to not charge him.
And even if he does they might not find a jury that will convict.
They’re more likely to stand in line asking for his autograph.
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The whole scenario STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN.
I DO NOT assume this was an accident.
NOT AT ALL.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57981538


Why kill your cinematographer and director ?? Makes zero sense for motive. Anti vaxxer was set up. Why he pointed the barrel that direction and pulled the trigger is a mystery unless the scene called for that shot.
Pun intended.
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When would a script and scene call for pointing a gun at a cinematographer and pulling the trigger?
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Imagine wanting to work in Hollyweird knowing that you can get executed at a moment's notice with no repercussions to the executioner. They sure have their own laws those leftists.
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Re: Alec Baldwin’s Negligent Discharge: Unhinged Actor May Face Involuntary Manslaughter Charges
No way you could mix 1 real bullet in with blanks..

like holding 6 dicks in your hand and only one has a head!


Prop guns do not shoot bullets.... The barells are solid a short distance in.

It was real gun if it shot a bullet.

Real guns are usually not used for daylight movie shooting because you can't see the muzzle blast. (no reason)

Audio is seperate from the video so no need for a bang.

Whose finger prints on the real bullet casing? my guess wiped clean and installed with a glove on...

Or Douche bag shot the girl for not giving it up to him.. He is a PSYCHO....
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Rule 1...the gun is ALWAYS LOADED. Always check as soon as someone hands you a gun or you pick up a gun, even if you just saw someone else check it.

Rule 2...never point a gun at anyone or anything you don't intend to destroy or kill

Rule 3...keep your finger off the damn trigger until target is acquired and ready to fire

Rule 4...know what's behind your target because YOU are responsible for anyone hurt or killed.

Baldwin failed all 4 basic rules and he should be charged with the death of this person.
 Quoting: Bloody Peasant!


Rule 5 ... Rules 1 to 4 don't apply on a movie set
 Quoting: Big Duke6


RULE #1 ALWAYS APPLIES, ASSWIPE!
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Did the propmaster hand Alec a real gun on the movie set? Did Alec pull out a real gun and shoot people intentionally? Thank God you people are not on my jury.
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It will not haunt him emotionally, psychopaths don’t have emotions. Might haunt him via meme though… and we should never let it die.

He dedicated his life to being a snide pinko - the only victim was two lady’s and the bullet. May his life be shit till the day he dies and may it get worse after that in hell.
 Quoting: CosmicRays



A major trait of sociopaths is their weakness in identifying right from wrong, good from bad, truths from lies.

Think of how many liberals fit that description. Even more so, when the liberal in question is even hard-left or ultra-liberal. Or not too different from what Baldwin is all about.

He's a ready-made nutcase from A to Z.





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