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Assistant who gave loaded gun to Alec Baldwin worked on movie set where Brandon Lee was killed. | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80832553  United States10/23/2021 10:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: KuvaszLove you moron it's idiotspeak from liberal idiots who know fuck-all about guns tossing around stupid theories like "some debris may have been in the barrel" it's a gun guns have barrels if a projectile has gunpowder behind it- in the barrel- you can call that a bullet |
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 User ID: 79631969 United States10/23/2021 10:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37645337 Movie PROP guns WILL NOT and CANNOT accept or fire a live round. IF they are ‘forward vented’ it is only a forward gas vent, —not a barrel capable of expelling a round. Not to mention, prop guns will not even chamber a real live round. They are designed to not (easily) be modified to shoot real live ammo. The ATF claims they cannot be modified to shoot live ammo, however someone with a mill, a new barrel, and some machining prowess might be able to convert one. This leaves us with a story that is not plausible, probable, or possible. Use some logic with me here... If one could buy a prop gun with out a background check, or ID for that matter, then simply load live ammo in it and have a operating firearm.... —this would make the biggest joke out of all the gun laws, especially because a lot of prop pistols come with select fire, making them full-auto capable. —THIS STORY STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN “NON-GUNS These are very similar to replica guns. The thing that makes these prop guns different are that they are manufactured with artificial shooting mechanisms to look AND function like the real thing. Some have blowback mechanics charged with CO2 to simulate firing the gun to make the scene seem real. Some of these special prop guns even simulate muzzle flash and have adequate sound coming from the prop. [link to www.beginnergunner.com (secure)] CONCLUSION Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37645337 Prop guns have been around for a long time. The film industry has been using prop guns of all types for many years. Blank guns were more common back-in-the-day but have been changed out for the replica mechanical or gas blowback airsoft types because of safety concerns. Feel free to get yourself one if you want to see one for yourself. They are generally cheaper and are not regulated the way normal firearms are. Just be careful where you take it. Most people will not realize that it is a prop gun and not a real gun. The police will not know either. [link to www.beginnergunner.com (secure)] All of the above is utter nonsense. Most movies use the real, actual guns themselves, and fire real ammunition that has had the bullet, and some level or all of gunpowder removed, known as "blanks". It's cheaper to buy the real guns versus fake movie props. The major studios stopped using real guns for the most part over a decade ago. The warehouses were emptied out and the guns sold off at auction being replaced with blank firing props. It's still legal to shoot a movie with a real gun and some independant productions do exactly that since there are plenty of places willing to supply them but anything connected to major studio with very few exceptions would be using blank guns incapable of firing live rounds. Prop guns are generally cheaper than real guns, some examples featured in many productions are Zoraki, Bruni and Ekol and prop guns. Some really low budget production feature air guns and airsoft guns including some SciFi channel shows. There are also plenty of non-firing props that cost almost nothing but look and operate just like real guns and then of course there are rubber guns used for stunt shots. There are probably plenty of occassions where you've been looking at a fake gun in a movie or show and thought it was real. The movie Baldwin was filming was allegedly a western using real guns but with an inexperienced or at the very least inept gun handler on set. All false. A simple search shows that the vast overwhelming majority of sets use real guns. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80832553 United States10/23/2021 10:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: KuvaszLove It had live ammo in it. It basically the same thing, just different bullets. The gun that killed Brandon Lee fired a fragment, not a live round. I think I know what you're imagining but it has nothing to do with reality guns fire projectiles from barrels simple eh but obviously not for you |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79699568 United States10/23/2021 10:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37645337 “NON-GUNS These are very similar to replica guns. The thing that makes these prop guns different are that they are manufactured with artificial shooting mechanisms to look AND function like the real thing. Some have blowback mechanics charged with CO2 to simulate firing the gun to make the scene seem real. Some of these special prop guns even simulate muzzle flash and have adequate sound coming from the prop. [link to www.beginnergunner.com (secure)] CONCLUSION Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37645337 Prop guns have been around for a long time. The film industry has been using prop guns of all types for many years. Blank guns were more common back-in-the-day but have been changed out for the replica mechanical or gas blowback airsoft types because of safety concerns. Feel free to get yourself one if you want to see one for yourself. They are generally cheaper and are not regulated the way normal firearms are. Just be careful where you take it. Most people will not realize that it is a prop gun and not a real gun. The police will not know either. [link to www.beginnergunner.com (secure)] All of the above is utter nonsense. Most movies use the real, actual guns themselves, and fire real ammunition that has had the bullet, and some level or all of gunpowder removed, known as "blanks". It's cheaper to buy the real guns versus fake movie props. The major studios stopped using real guns for the most part over a decade ago. The warehouses were emptied out and the guns sold off at auction being replaced with blank firing props. It's still legal to shoot a movie with a real gun and some independant productions do exactly that since there are plenty of places willing to supply them but anything connected to major studio with very few exceptions would be using blank guns incapable of firing live rounds. Prop guns are generally cheaper than real guns, some examples featured in many productions are Zoraki, Bruni and Ekol and prop guns. Some really low budget production feature air guns and airsoft guns including some SciFi channel shows. There are also plenty of non-firing props that cost almost nothing but look and operate just like real guns and then of course there are rubber guns used for stunt shots. There are probably plenty of occassions where you've been looking at a fake gun in a movie or show and thought it was real. The movie Baldwin was filming was allegedly a western using real guns but with an inexperienced or at the very least inept gun handler on set. All false. A simple search shows that the vast overwhelming majority of sets use real guns. Wow, way to refute a statement but provide absolutely nothing to support your point. Prove it or shut up. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79699568 United States10/23/2021 10:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Truthgiver2244 ... All of the above is utter nonsense. Most movies use the real, actual guns themselves, and fire real ammunition that has had the bullet, and some level or all of gunpowder removed, known as "blanks". It's cheaper to buy the real guns versus fake movie props. The major studios stopped using real guns for the most part over a decade ago. The warehouses were emptied out and the guns sold off at auction being replaced with blank firing props. It's still legal to shoot a movie with a real gun and some independant productions do exactly that since there are plenty of places willing to supply them but anything connected to major studio with very few exceptions would be using blank guns incapable of firing live rounds. Prop guns are generally cheaper than real guns, some examples featured in many productions are Zoraki, Bruni and Ekol and prop guns. Some really low budget production feature air guns and airsoft guns including some SciFi channel shows. There are also plenty of non-firing props that cost almost nothing but look and operate just like real guns and then of course there are rubber guns used for stunt shots. There are probably plenty of occassions where you've been looking at a fake gun in a movie or show and thought it was real. The movie Baldwin was filming was allegedly a western using real guns but with an inexperienced or at the very least inept gun handler on set. All false. A simple search shows that the vast overwhelming majority of sets use real guns. Wow, way to refute a statement but provide absolutely nothing to support your point. Prove it or shut up. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77606890 United States10/23/2021 11:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SHUT THE FRONT DOOR !!! Quoting: BraveBird Omg . This is attached to the Clinton Law firm , WHERE MIKE SUSSMAN IS FROM the one that got slapped with the 81000 page John Durham indictment Oooh this is interesting You said this, and they COMPLETELY IGNORED IT. That’s how you know it’s true. Losers are on the edge of their seats while their superiors sell them to the wolves. Hahahahahahahha |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79837833 United States10/23/2021 11:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Op is stupid and so is the majority of ppl on this site. This site has become a joke. I miss the old planet X years Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77552646 Back when Bush was potus and this was an actual conspired site… it was the best. Now, mostly mouth breathers who believe the most ludicrous shit while claiming to be critical thinkers and never bothering to even do a simple web search to confirm whatever the latest BS they are spewing is… |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73188045 United States10/23/2021 11:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Might as well blame Hillary for it- cuz you aint gonn asee shit from this. Brandon Lee was Yakuza hit based on the same ppl that killed his daddy,... plain and simple.. Wake the fuck up ppl- this aint nothing new. they gonna blame it on TDS and the "antivaxx" bullshit to keep ur brains churning off nothing. . |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75378577 United States10/23/2021 11:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THE PLOT THICKENS!!! Quoting: Former Trumpcultist CHILLING ECHO Alec Baldwin – Assistant director who ‘gave star loaded gun’ worked on sequel to The Crow where Brandon Lee was killed Quoting: [link to www.the-sun.com (secure)] In an ironic twist, Halls also worked on The Crow: Salvation, the sequel to the 1993 film The Crow, where actor Brandon Lee was tragically killed in a similar gun mishap. Lee, the son of martial arts legend Bruce Lee, died at age 28 after being hit by a .44-caliber slug while filming a death scene for the movie. hit-job written all over it.  sounds like a set up to me....all planned in advance to try and finger someone else than THE SHOOTER. |
| DognamedDOPIE
User ID: 58634618 United States10/23/2021 11:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: KuvaszLove It had live ammo in it. It basically the same thing, just different bullets. The gun that killed Brandon Lee fired a fragment, not a live round. Thought it had a bullet in the barrel and the blank fired the one lodged. We knew it was coming. If you live in the castle, you better be King. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 81042503 United States10/23/2021 11:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What part of "Brandon Lee was shot dead by a prop gun" your inbred excuse for a brain didn't understand???????????   If brandon lee died in the sequel . Who starred in the first crow movie and what was his name? Either way . Both instances are tragedies. Having worked in the biz . My deepest condolences. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 81041840 10/24/2021 12:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look, he’s not losing any sleep over having murdered someone. If anything, he’s just steamed at how much this going to inconvenience him, nothing more. Leftists are such worthless, self-absorbed, sociopathic narcissists. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80529070 United States10/24/2021 12:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not reading the entire thread - but need to clear up a misconception that is all over page one. If somebody else has pointed this out already, kudos and apologies. Dave Halls worked on The Crow - Salvation (the second movie in the Crow series). NOT The Crow (the original movie) where Brandon Lee was killed. To further clarify, Brandon Lee and Dave Halls worked on completely separate movies two years apart and may have never crossed paths on any movie set. It is highly doubtful that Dave Halls had anything to do with the shooting on Rust. This was just a story made to misdirect you and have you looking in the wrong direction. I'm disappointed in y'all, conspiracy nuts are supposed to see past this kind of trick. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80279660 United States10/24/2021 12:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What part of "Brandon Lee was shot dead by a prop gun" your inbred excuse for a brain didn't understand??????????? That was the movie CROW, not the SEQUEL. DO you fucking understand the word SEQUEL and understand it is a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT MOVIE ENTIRELY? Are you a bot or is Engrish your second language? Holy fuck, fucktard! |
| Undestroyer
Truth User ID: 80492960 United States10/24/2021 01:08 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | that guy better be investigated sheesh You cannot destroy my vision when you see my vision undestroyed because I am just an undestroyer. Thread: Food Combining Made Easy by Herbert Shelton a progenitor from the Natural Hygienist Movement "I am a hunter of peace, one who chases the elusive mayfly of love... errr something like that." -Vash the Stampede |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 81032667  Turkey10/24/2021 03:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80629380 The major studios stopped using real guns for the most part over a decade ago. The warehouses were emptied out and the guns sold off at auction being replaced with blank firing props. It's still legal to shoot a movie with a real gun and some independant productions do exactly that since there are plenty of places willing to supply them but anything connected to major studio with very few exceptions would be using blank guns incapable of firing live rounds. Prop guns are generally cheaper than real guns, some examples featured in many productions are Zoraki, Bruni and Ekol and prop guns. Some really low budget production feature air guns and airsoft guns including some SciFi channel shows. There are also plenty of non-firing props that cost almost nothing but look and operate just like real guns and then of course there are rubber guns used for stunt shots. There are probably plenty of occassions where you've been looking at a fake gun in a movie or show and thought it was real. The movie Baldwin was filming was allegedly a western using real guns but with an inexperienced or at the very least inept gun handler on set. All false. A simple search shows that the vast overwhelming majority of sets use real guns. Wow, way to refute a statement but provide absolutely nothing to support your point. Prove it or shut up. Your video supports the claim that a real gun was probably used on the set... The movie takes place in the 1880s I believe, the gun used was most likely a revolver as semi-auto/auto guns didn't exist yet in those times. Your video points out that for revolvers on movie sets they just use real ones and put blanks in them at 0:25 in your video, but for semi-auto guns they need special props |
| panther0621
User ID: 80727864 United States10/24/2021 03:24 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not reading the entire thread - but need to clear up a misconception that is all over page one. If somebody else has pointed this out already, kudos and apologies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80529070 Dave Halls worked on The Crow - Salvation (the second movie in the Crow series). NOT The Crow (the original movie) where Brandon Lee was killed. To further clarify, Brandon Lee and Dave Halls worked on completely separate movies two years apart and may have never crossed paths on any movie set. It is highly doubtful that Dave Halls had anything to do with the shooting on Rust. This was just a story made to misdirect you and have you looking in the wrong direction. I'm disappointed in y'all, conspiracy nuts are supposed to see past this kind of trick. This site is made up of mostly bots or low IQ people. There is no reading or no reading comprehension. I have pointed it out. How does this stay pinned ? You can see this in thread after thread right now. It was not like this before. I think we have lost a ton of posters to death. |
| panther0621
User ID: 80727864 United States10/24/2021 03:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Op is stupid and so is the majority of ppl on this site. This site has become a joke. I miss the old planet X years Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77552646 Back when Bush was potus and this was an actual conspired site… it was the best. Now, mostly mouth breathers who believe the most ludicrous shit while claiming to be critical thinkers and never bothering to even do a simple web search to confirm whatever the latest BS they are spewing is…  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80980383 United States10/24/2021 03:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hollywood still hires people in their bubble. They are a monochromatic entity. Not surprising this vaunted 'Daughter of Hollywood Legend Armorer' didn't know jack squat about being an armorer. It's sad that her father failed her and she wasn't even educated on the basics or specifics of the job. There were so many other warnings on that set, and as Producer Alec Baldwin has a special responsibility. He shouldn't be given an inch of '...but he was just muh actor' excuse making. Ultimate guilt is on him from 2 different angles. Being the person firing the weapon and the person being in charge of the production. How are you going to blame somebody else? |
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