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It Wasn’t a ‘Prop Gun’: Anti-Gunner Alec Baldwin Shot a Firearm That Was Being Used for Target Practice Off Set It Wasn’t a | |
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 User ID: 61017279 United States10/24/2021 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: It Wasn’t a ‘Prop Gun’: Anti-Gunner Alec Baldwin Shot a Firearm That Was Being Used for Target Practice Off Set It Wasn’t a Why would they need target practice to fire blanks? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79724041 This was a planned homicide by someone. I'm thinking that someone (prolly that little bitch prop employee "helper" who had a famous dad who did this for a career) meant this to be a semi-dangerous (but clueless as to HOW DANGEROUS) little prank--and it went horribly wrong. There is no way anyone could PLAN this because Baldwin would have been pointing the gun in a "random" way--just goofing around. I read where Baldwin had done this kind of "bang bang...you're dead" routine on the set in the past. Knowing that this was one of his off-humor routines--the person would have studied him even though despising him --the REAL gun would just be to "see what happens if he fires an actual hot round." Besides...if Bald win really wanted to "off" someone he hated...he would HIRE IT DONE...He wouldn't be stupid enough to place himself in the center of a public killing. But...that's me...I'm just sayin, here!  The Oracle's Cookie "An evil enemy will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes." – Sun Tzu"...."DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK!" Thread: Partial crustal shift and the Sun / earth , Updated Catastrophe video pg. 114 Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, Thread: UPdated Pg.2: Davinci Equinox Code 3:"What the EQUINOX SHADOW Knows"--Equinox Triggers and Solar Micro-Nova. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7348586 United States10/24/2021 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: It Wasn’t a ‘Prop Gun’: Anti-Gunner Alec Baldwin Shot a Firearm That Was Being Used for Target Practice Off Set It Wasn’t a I don't care if three gunsmiths, two gun store owners, a world champion shooter and Clint Eastwood tell me a gun is empty, it isn't empty until I see for myself that it is empty. Guys like Baldwin are too used to having other people do everything for them. Some things are so important that you have to do them yourself. Checking a gun you are about to handle is one of those important things. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81044466 yup this is just a distraction story |
| Tex the Neanderthal
User ID: 79310585 United States10/24/2021 04:45 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: It Wasn’t a ‘Prop Gun’: Anti-Gunner Alec Baldwin Shot a Firearm That Was Being Used for Target Practice Off Set It Wasn’t a Has anyone considered the whole thing was deliberate to take the heat off of Biden and his disasterous policies gutting the airlines, military, FAA, economy etc.? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77998499 Didn't Baldwin, the anti-gun liberal, support Biden and didn't he do parodies on SNL about Trump? And are they not all one big happy pedo family? Now that we have the fake ending to the Brian Laundrie case they need another distraction to keep people occupied. |
| No holds barred
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| Texas Best Republic
Don’t Mess With Texas! User ID: 4524052 United States10/24/2021 04:47 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: It Wasn’t a ‘Prop Gun’: Anti-Gunner Alec Baldwin Shot a Firearm That Was Being Used for Target Practice Off Set It Wasn’t a ………… For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.….. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80715672 United States10/24/2021 04:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: It Wasn’t a ‘Prop Gun’: Anti-Gunner Alec Baldwin Shot a Firearm That Was Being Used for Target Practice Off Set It Wasn’t a I don't care if three gunsmiths, two gun store owners, a world champion shooter and Clint Eastwood tell me a gun is empty, it isn't empty until I see for myself that it is empty. Guys like Baldwin are too used to having other people do everything for them. Some things are so important that you have to do them yourself. Checking a gun you are about to handle is one of those important things. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81044466 I seen holes made by unloaded guns too many times |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 81040893 United States10/24/2021 04:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: It Wasn’t a ‘Prop Gun’: Anti-Gunner Alec Baldwin Shot a Firearm That Was Being Used for Target Practice Off Set It Wasn’t a Nothing to argue about and yes you tube is full of videos featuring prop masters showing people how the different prop guns work and explaining how when and why they get used. Some real, some blank, some don't shoot and some are solid props with no moving parts. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79903308 End of discussion. nothing is over until Alec pulls the trigger. . |
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| VampPatriot
User ID: 80086540 United States10/24/2021 04:59 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: It Wasn’t a ‘Prop Gun’: Anti-Gunner Alec Baldwin Shot a Firearm That Was Being Used for Target Practice Off Set It Wasn’t a Libtards with guns are dangerous, almost none of them take safety classes nor follow gun laws Sic Semper Tyrannis. The F in Communism stands for Food. "FREEDOM IS SLAVERY. IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH. WAR IS PEACE. STAYING APART BRINGS US TOGETHER." NWO Mantra |
| CavScout
User ID: 77856667 United States10/24/2021 05:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: It Wasn’t a ‘Prop Gun’: Anti-Gunner Alec Baldwin Shot a Firearm That Was Being Used for Target Practice Off Set It Wasn’t a I wonder if the firearm was completely loaded with live ammunition, and they only discovered it after Baldwin popped off a couple rounds at crew. Brainstorming here.. I wonder if Baldwin regularly takes "shots" at his crew, perhaps in anger, and someone who knows this fact loaded the firearm? Hmmm.... How else would two crew get injured, other than ricochet or the bullet actually passing through the body (not likely, right?) It is more likely in my mind that two rounds were fired. At crew. Last Edited by CavScout on 10/24/2021 05:04 PM CavScout |
| HempWillSaveTheWorld
User ID: 79118999 United States10/24/2021 05:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: It Wasn’t a ‘Prop Gun’: Anti-Gunner Alec Baldwin Shot a Firearm That Was Being Used for Target Practice Off Set It Wasn’t a I don't care if three gunsmiths, two gun store owners, a world champion shooter and Clint Eastwood tell me a gun is empty, it isn't empty until I see for myself that it is empty. Guys like Baldwin are too used to having other people do everything for them. Some things are so important that you have to do them yourself. Checking a gun you are about to handle is one of those important things. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81044466 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ——-is how I was raised, and how I am raising my kids and grandchildren. Yep. Neglect homicide for not looking and pointing a qeapon at a non actor. Something seems fishy like, he was pointing it and said it's fake ... fired killed Had a stupid buddy, watched him playing with his gun, he never checked the barrle. I got a little thing in my head that said it was loaded He denied and said look went to point the gun at me a fire for a aplit second I motioned said soemthing quick he then with drew and popped the slide. Round came out YOU CAN NEVER LET YOUR GAURD DOWN AROUND WEAPONS HempWillSaveTheWorld Vi Veri Vniversum Vivus Vici |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 81040336 United States10/24/2021 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: It Wasn’t a ‘Prop Gun’: Anti-Gunner Alec Baldwin Shot a Firearm That Was Being Used for Target Practice Off Set It Wasn’t a Also, I note that all of the male relatives of the female Director of Photography who was killed, are acting VERY VERY STRANGELY about this. They don't seem to be blaming or attacking Baldwin, which is what NORMAL people would do....they seem to be trying to EXCUSE OR SUPPORT HIM. That is NOT normal and makes me wonder what the hell was REALLY going on here. NOT AN ACCIDENT. It makes things more ominous for Alec. Ukrainians avenge their slain loved ones. |
| voodoo242
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| nitebird
User ID: 66739048 United States10/24/2021 05:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: It Wasn’t a ‘Prop Gun’: Anti-Gunner Alec Baldwin Shot a Firearm That Was Being Used for Target Practice Off Set It Wasn’t a Supposedly, there was a tray with three guns on it and the assistant director was asked which one he wanted for the scene. Were all three loaded or did the director just happen to choose that one? Did the armorer put the guns on the tray or did someone else? Who loaded the guns? According to the article in the UK Daily Mail, Alec Baldwin's costume was covered in blood and he turned it over to the police. We know he shot her at close range if one bullet went through the woman and also hit the director. Did he cock the gun and then pull the trigger while pointing it at close range? |
| Copperhead
User ID: 80522000 United States10/24/2021 05:21 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: It Wasn’t a ‘Prop Gun’: Anti-Gunner Alec Baldwin Shot a Firearm That Was Being Used for Target Practice Off Set It Wasn’t a [link to beckernews.com (secure)] Quoting: HOLLYWOOD STAR KILLER 81044466 The fallout of the Alec Baldwin shooting tragedy has led to further questions about how a “prop gun” could have fired a live round that killed the film’s cinematographer Halyna Hutchins. Furthermore, another question that has gone under the radar is how the Baldwin shooting also led to the wounding of director Joel Souza. It wasn’t a “prop gun.” It was an actual gun that was being used as a prop. TMZ reported on the development that sources close to the filming of “Rust” indicate that the gun used in the incident was also used off-set for “target practice.” “The smoking gun that claimed the life of Halyna Hutchins might’ve been more than just an on-set prop — it was also being fired recreationally, even when cameras weren’t rolling,” TMZ reported. “Multiple sources directly connected to the ‘Rust’ production tell TMZ … the same gun Alec Baldwin accidentally fired — hitting the DP and director — was being used by crews members off set as well, for what we’re told amounted to target practice,” the report added. According to the BBC, a “prop gun” could mean a range of items, “from non-functioning weapons to cap guns… But it can also mean a real weapon, or one adapted for firing blanks.” However, Hollywood should ban the term from applying to actual firearms. All of these guns used in the USA for films are 'real guns.' Especially period revolvers--which just use blank ammo, which is brass that is crimped over without any type of wadding. These cartridges are specially made for films. So with a revolver used on a film--yes it is a real gun and not a reproduction toy that shoots caps. And yes a real round can be swapped into them and fired. As for semi-and full auto weapons--yes these are real weapons as well, but they are heavily modified to shoot blank, crimped ammunition---and modified from a pinned barrel adapter to modify the the blow-back or recoil operation. And if you were to put a live round in one of these types of weapons it would literally blow up in your face. Period rifles and bolt action guns like Mausers or lever action weapons are not modified--and they will shoot live ammunition. It is the responsibility of the 'armorer' or 'gun wrangler' who are heavily licensed individuals and heavily trained to handle weapons and control weapons on movie sets. I am speaking from experience here as I wrote several articles for major gun magazines on this subject and had unlimited access to the largest movie armories in California for my article. There is a scene in Saving Private Ryan where you can see the blank crimped rounds being used in an MG-42. They missed that in editing. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 81045056 10/24/2021 05:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: It Wasn’t a ‘Prop Gun’: Anti-Gunner Alec Baldwin Shot a Firearm That Was Being Used for Target Practice Off Set It Wasn’t a What about those union crew members that walked off the set 6 hours before. Could one of them have replaced the prop gun with the gun with live rounds they were shooting recreationally as a result of them being pissed off at being removed from the set? Quoting: voodoo242 [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9344496  Canada10/24/2021 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: It Wasn’t a ‘Prop Gun’: Anti-Gunner Alec Baldwin Shot a Firearm That Was Being Used for Target Practice Off Set It Wasn’t a I don't care if three gunsmiths, two gun store owners, a world champion shooter and Clint Eastwood tell me a gun is empty, it isn't empty until I see for myself that it is empty. Guys like Baldwin are too used to having other people do everything for them. Some things are so important that you have to do them yourself. Checking a gun you are about to handle is one of those important things. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81044466 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ——-is how I was raised, and how I am raising my kids and grandchildren. That was always the rule up here too. If my dad ever caught me pointing a gun at another person (unless I actually needed to wound/kill him) it would be the proverbial "swift boot to the posterior section". |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9344496 Canada10/24/2021 05:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: It Wasn’t a ‘Prop Gun’: Anti-Gunner Alec Baldwin Shot a Firearm That Was Being Used for Target Practice Off Set It Wasn’t a I don't care if three gunsmiths, two gun store owners, a world champion shooter and Clint Eastwood tell me a gun is empty, it isn't empty until I see for myself that it is empty. Guys like Baldwin are too used to having other people do everything for them. Some things are so important that you have to do them yourself. Checking a gun you are about to handle is one of those important things. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81044466 I seen holes made by unloaded guns too many times Ditto that. Almost been accidentally shot by a 12 ga.twice in my life. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 81018151  United Kingdom10/24/2021 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: It Wasn’t a ‘Prop Gun’: Anti-Gunner Alec Baldwin Shot a Firearm That Was Being Used for Target Practice Off Set It Wasn’t a It wasn’t a “prop gun.” It was an actual gun that was being used as a prop... Quoting: HOLLYWOOD STAR KILLER 81044466 In the film industry referring to a particular item as a "Prop." does not mean an item is fake or something contrived, the word "Prop." is a shorting of the word "property", which itself is a shortening of "property company". Film studios hire the furniture and physical items making up the set, from property companies, who supply all the furniture, knick-knacks etc. Props can be and often are everyday items either supplied from a warehouse full of junk, bought from shops or hand made fakery. So a "prop gun" can very often be a real gun, adapted blank firing replica, plastic throw-away toy. There is a lot of explaining as to why so many basic safety procedures must have been broken by so many people. "No stone will be left unturned", "thorough investigations", "lessons will be learned..." and to quote Greta "Blar, blar, blar, blar!" |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80124667 10/24/2021 05:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: It Wasn’t a ‘Prop Gun’: Anti-Gunner Alec Baldwin Shot a Firearm That Was Being Used for Target Practice Off Set It Wasn’t a I don't care if three gunsmiths, two gun store owners, a world champion shooter and Clint Eastwood tell me a gun is empty, it isn't empty until I see for myself that it is empty. Guys like Baldwin are too used to having other people do everything for them. Some things are so important that you have to do them yourself. Checking a gun you are about to handle is one of those important things. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81044466 i'll allow it. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72831988 United States10/24/2021 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: It Wasn’t a ‘Prop Gun’: Anti-Gunner Alec Baldwin Shot a Firearm That Was Being Used for Target Practice Off Set It Wasn’t a If he had checked personally he would have known it was loaded with live rounds. Who told him it was not loaded? Whose fingerprints are on the shell casings? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81044466 You don't get a position in this world like Alec's as a movie and tv star unless you've bought the position from Lucifer, the god of this world, with your soul. The future is known--your entire life is known before you are born. Alec sold his soul and one of the conditions (it will be known by all on the other side) was to kill those people. Whether wittingly or unwittingly, he agreed to be used by the demonic forces to allow it to happen before he was born. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80514643 United States10/24/2021 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: It Wasn’t a ‘Prop Gun’: Anti-Gunner Alec Baldwin Shot a Firearm That Was Being Used for Target Practice Off Set It Wasn’t a Guns don't fire by themselves Alec. Hot or not he obviously pointed the gun at someone and pulled the trigger. Actions have consequences buddy. Couldn't happen to a more appropriate sucker. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74252060 I'm sure that he can not only come through this with flying colors, but he can turn this into a massive new campaign to get the Democrats to pass new laws on gun restrictions. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79211509 United States10/24/2021 05:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: It Wasn’t a ‘Prop Gun’: Anti-Gunner Alec Baldwin Shot a Firearm That Was Being Used for Target Practice Off Set It Wasn’t a [link to beckernews.com (secure)] Quoting: HOLLYWOOD STAR KILLER 81044466 The fallout of the Alec Baldwin shooting tragedy has led to further questions about how a “prop gun” could have fired a live round that killed the film’s cinematographer Halyna Hutchins. Furthermore, another question that has gone under the radar is how the Baldwin shooting also led to the wounding of director Joel Souza. It wasn’t a “prop gun.” It was an actual gun that was being used as a prop. TMZ reported on the development that sources close to the filming of “Rust” indicate that the gun used in the incident was also used off-set for “target practice.” “The smoking gun that claimed the life of Halyna Hutchins might’ve been more than just an on-set prop — it was also being fired recreationally, even when cameras weren’t rolling,” TMZ reported. “Multiple sources directly connected to the ‘Rust’ production tell TMZ … the same gun Alec Baldwin accidentally fired — hitting the DP and director — was being used by crews members off set as well, for what we’re told amounted to target practice,” the report added. According to the BBC, a “prop gun” could mean a range of items, “from non-functioning weapons to cap guns… But it can also mean a real weapon, or one adapted for firing blanks.” However, Hollywood should ban the term from applying to actual firearms. FUCK EVERYONE IN COMMIELAND.. MILLEY NEEDS TO ORDER AIIRSRIKES FROM CHIA. USSR! |
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| OGEBY
User ID: 81043981 United States10/24/2021 05:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: It Wasn’t a ‘Prop Gun’: Anti-Gunner Alec Baldwin Shot a Firearm That Was Being Used for Target Practice Off Set It Wasn’t a I don't care if three gunsmiths, two gun store owners, a world champion shooter and Clint Eastwood tell me a gun is empty, it isn't empty until I see for myself that it is empty. Guys like Baldwin are too used to having other people do everything for them. Some things are so important that you have to do them yourself. Checking a gun you are about to handle is one of those important things. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81044466 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ——-is how I was raised, and how I am raising my kids and grandchildren.  |
