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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71234297 United States 01/24/2022 11:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects First Day Back... Quoting: Cock Goblin On the Covid Crew and it was... Thrilling Been able to avoid being on the Full Crew since before Christmas...they All had it first week in Jan. Said Fuck it... Went Full Face Commando Best of luck to you, CG. I mean that sincerely .... maybe you are one of the people who just won't contract Covid, for whatever reason. If you do get it, I hope it is mild, and you recover fully. Well IF we all live long enough we will all have to face catching it most likely...DM remember when we was all freaking when we had close contact...contact tracing...zero covid...Moderna Shit...boosters...supplements...Covid Too much for hillbillie intelligence to stay ahead of anymore Let's get ready to rumble |
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User ID: 81772526 Singapore 01/24/2022 11:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects I believe IHU will become variant of concern within 3 month's time, based on previous experience of Delta's timeline. https://twitter.com/_/status/1485468620490633217 |
Doommonkey
User ID: 59390060 United States 01/24/2022 11:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects First Day Back... Quoting: Cock Goblin On the Covid Crew and it was... Thrilling Been able to avoid being on the Full Crew since before Christmas...they All had it first week in Jan. Said Fuck it... Went Full Face Commando Best of luck to you, CG. I mean that sincerely .... maybe you are one of the people who just won't contract Covid, for whatever reason. If you do get it, I hope it is mild, and you recover fully. Well IF we all live long enough we will all have to face catching it most likely...DM remember when we was all freaking when we had close contact...contact tracing...zero covid...Moderna Shit...boosters...supplements...Covid Too much for hillbillie intelligence to stay ahead of anymore Let's get ready to rumble Agreed that we will likely all face catching it, or at least being exposed, CG. My current strategy is to continue to do my best not to catch it, and I figure that even if I do catch it, the fewer infections I get/spread to others, the better. So, you go commando, I'll double mask, and we will both continue living our lives. Looks like freedom but it feels like death. It's something in between I guess... it's closing time. Lenonard Cohen |
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User ID: 81772526 Singapore 01/24/2022 11:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects [link to www.cbc.ca (secure)] COVID-19 can wreak havoc on your body. So will it cause health issues decades down the road? |
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User ID: 81772526 Singapore 01/24/2022 11:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects Long Covid: nearly 2m days lost in NHS staff absences in England MPs urge support for workers after data shows extent of ongoing illness in first 18 months of pandemic |
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User ID: 81772526 Singapore 01/25/2022 02:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects Ok, here is the pre-print paper. Please do not try to silent me like Coronacoaster, I am just a re-poster, I pro-mRNA vaccine but took inactivated vaccine. [link to www.authorea.com (secure)] Innate Immune Suppression by SARS-CoV-2 mRNA Vaccinations: The role of G-quadruplexes, exosomes and microRNAs |
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User ID: 81772526 Singapore 01/25/2022 04:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects [link to news.yahoo.com (secure)] As nurses and doctors struggle with a record-breaking wave of omicron cases, evolutionary biologists are engaged in a struggle of their own: figuring out how this world-dominating variant came to be. When the omicron variant took off in southern Africa in November, scientists were taken aback by its genetic makeup. Whereas earlier variants had differed from the original Wuhan version of the coronavirus by a dozen or two mutations, omicron had 53 — a shockingly large jump in viral evolution. |
S-man
User ID: 78011624 01/25/2022 05:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects Ok, here is the pre-print paper. Please do not try to silent me like Coronacoaster, I am just a re-poster, I pro-mRNA vaccine but took inactivated vaccine. Quoting: whitepiedtv [link to www.authorea.com (secure)] Innate Immune Suppression by SARS-CoV-2 mRNA Vaccinations: The role of G-quadruplexes, exosomes and microRNAs Yes, if true, it's just like we've been warning. I think it won't matter if it is mRNA or inactivated vacine - if the spike is made as a result of injection, then this is a plausible mechanism for impairing immunity... The following is actually peer-reviewed, from the Journal "Viruses"... (published 13 October 2021) [link to www.mdpi.com (secure)] SARS–CoV–2 Spike Impairs DNA Damage Repair and Inhibits V(D)J Recombination In Vitro We report that the SARS–CoV–2 spike protein significantly inhibits DNA damage repair, which is required for effective V(D)J recombination in adaptive immunity. Mechanistically, we found that the spike protein localizes in the nucleus and inhibits DNA damage repair by impeding key DNA repair protein BRCA1 and 53BP1 recruitment to the damage site. Our findings reveal a potential molecular mechanism by which the spike protein might impede adaptive immunity and underscore the potential side effects of full-length spike-based vaccines" Last Edited by S-man on 01/25/2022 05:50 AM |
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ParamedicUK
User ID: 81959806 United Kingdom 01/25/2022 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects Ok, here is the pre-print paper. Please do not try to silent me like Coronacoaster, I am just a re-poster, I pro-mRNA vaccine but took inactivated vaccine. Quoting: whitepiedtv [link to www.authorea.com (secure)] Innate Immune Suppression by SARS-CoV-2 mRNA Vaccinations: The role of G-quadruplexes, exosomes and microRNAs Yes, if true, it's just like we've been warning. I think it won't matter if it is mRNA or inactivated vacine - if the spike is made as a result of injection, then this is a plausible mechanism for impairing immunity... The following is actually peer-reviewed, from the Journal "Viruses"... (published 13 October 2021) [link to www.mdpi.com (secure)] SARS–CoV–2 Spike Impairs DNA Damage Repair and Inhibits V(D)J Recombination In Vitro We report that the SARS–CoV–2 spike protein significantly inhibits DNA damage repair, which is required for effective V(D)J recombination in adaptive immunity. Mechanistically, we found that the spike protein localizes in the nucleus and inhibits DNA damage repair by impeding key DNA repair protein BRCA1 and 53BP1 recruitment to the damage site. Our findings reveal a potential molecular mechanism by which the spike protein might impede adaptive immunity and underscore the potential side effects of full-length spike-based vaccines" It is starting to look very real. Inhibiting DNA damage repair = CANCER!!!! Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way…… Peace not War. |
S-man User ID: 78330259 01/25/2022 09:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects Immunology discussion by highly qualified Professor Robert Clancy. Quoting: Lago "The reason you get immunity to a respiratory infection is because you are swallowing the virus or the bacteria or whatever it is, that's recognized by these immune areas in the gastrointestinal tract. The cells in the gastrointestinal tract are then directed to the lungs where they generate the immune response." Are the vaccines delaying our move for natural immunity? Cheers, Lago. Re the above posts on innate / adaptive immune system damage, Prof. Clancy has some comments to make at around 8m-10m "A lot of misinformation going around at the moment where in vaccines we're destroying the innate system - they forget the big picture.." Also, Clancy mentions Peyer's Patches.. as per Uncle Doom. These are lymphoid tissue, they make cells to fight infection in the lungs! |
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User ID: 81536351 United States 01/25/2022 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects Immunology discussion by highly qualified Professor Robert Clancy. Quoting: Lago "The reason you get immunity to a respiratory infection is because you are swallowing the virus or the bacteria or whatever it is, that's recognized by these immune areas in the gastrointestinal tract. The cells in the gastrointestinal tract are then directed to the lungs where they generate the immune response." Are the vaccines delaying our move for natural immunity? Cheers, Lago. Re the above posts on innate / adaptive immune system damage, Prof. Clancy has some comments to make at around 8m-10m "A lot of misinformation going around at the moment where in vaccines we're destroying the innate system - they forget the big picture.." Also, Clancy mentions Peyer's Patches.. as per Uncle Doom. These are lymphoid tissue, they make cells to fight infection in the lungs! Peyer's patches.... [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] Lago |
Lago
User ID: 81536351 United States 01/25/2022 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects Immunology discussion by highly qualified Professor Robert Clancy. Quoting: Lago "The reason you get immunity to a respiratory infection is because you are swallowing the virus or the bacteria or whatever it is, that's recognized by these immune areas in the gastrointestinal tract. The cells in the gastrointestinal tract are then directed to the lungs where they generate the immune response." Are the vaccines delaying our move for natural immunity? Cheers, Lago. Re the above posts on innate / adaptive immune system damage, Prof. Clancy has some comments to make at around 8m-10m "A lot of misinformation going around at the moment where in vaccines we're destroying the innate system - they forget the big picture.." Also, Clancy mentions Peyer's Patches.. as per Uncle Doom. These are lymphoid tissue, they make cells to fight infection in the lungs! Peyer's patches.... [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] I am stunned, I had no idea this kind of research was occurring in 1645 - 1677? Last Edited by Lago on 01/25/2022 10:47 AM Lago |
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Doommonkey
User ID: 59390060 United States 01/25/2022 11:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects Yes, a good deal of our immune system is housed in the gut (and a lot of our neurotransmitters, such as serotonin, dopamine, etc.) are produced there as well. That's part of why it is so troubling that Americans (among others) have such poor GI health ... it doesn't just affect one's digestion to have a lousy gut -- it affects the entire body, brain, etc. I'm having a very hard time believing Uncle Doom about Omicron acting as a vaccine. I've generally listened to what he has to say, and have taken a lot of his suggestions seriously (and, they've been pretty good suggestions, for the most part.) However, I am not buying his narrative about Omicron. It's a weird variant, to be sure. It doesn't seem to have evolved out of Delta, but rather to be something else that either mutated from one of the early strains of Covid, or to have come from human-to-mouse transmission and back again, perhaps. I've even read that some scientists consider it a different virus altogether, rather than a variant of Covid. Sorry I don't have links for this stuff -- I'm operating from memory, and it's too early in my morning for me to go searching around for references. All this to say, sorry UD .... but I just don't buy that Omicron is a designed variant by some genius to give us immunity. Looks like freedom but it feels like death. It's something in between I guess... it's closing time. Lenonard Cohen |
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Lago
User ID: 81536351 United States 01/25/2022 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects Yes, a good deal of our immune system is housed in the gut (and a lot of our neurotransmitters, such as serotonin, dopamine, etc.) are produced there as well. That's part of why it is so troubling that Americans (among others) have such poor GI health ... it doesn't just affect one's digestion to have a lousy gut -- it affects the entire body, brain, etc. Quoting: Doommonkey I'm having a very hard time believing Uncle Doom about Omicron acting as a vaccine. I've generally listened to what he has to say, and have taken a lot of his suggestions seriously (and, they've been pretty good suggestions, for the most part.) However, I am not buying his narrative about Omicron. It's a weird variant, to be sure. It doesn't seem to have evolved out of Delta, but rather to be something else that either mutated from one of the early strains of Covid, or to have come from human-to-mouse transmission and back again, perhaps. I've even read that some scientists consider it a different virus altogether, rather than a variant of Covid. Sorry I don't have links for this stuff -- I'm operating from memory, and it's too early in my morning for me to go searching around for references. All this to say, sorry UD .... but I just don't buy that Omicron is a designed variant by some genius to give us immunity. I watched a video from Dr John Campbell that made perfect sense. He speculated, based on available data, that rodents were infected with the original Wuhan virus, and over time the virus brewed inside them, and then they bit humans or excreted onto human food that was then eaten and consequently infected humans. Having been around 3rd world food markets, that scenario seems much more plausible than the genius version. I believe it's much too scary for most people to believe that we have very little, possibly no control, of this situation. I am tempted to say "If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him?" Voltaire. This is what we are doing, inventing the genius. It's too unnerving to come to terms with the reality that the human race is controlled by the whims of chance. Last Edited by Lago on 01/25/2022 11:51 AM Lago |
Doommonkey
User ID: 59390060 United States 01/25/2022 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects Yes, a good deal of our immune system is housed in the gut (and a lot of our neurotransmitters, such as serotonin, dopamine, etc.) are produced there as well. That's part of why it is so troubling that Americans (among others) have such poor GI health ... it doesn't just affect one's digestion to have a lousy gut -- it affects the entire body, brain, etc. Quoting: Doommonkey I'm having a very hard time believing Uncle Doom about Omicron acting as a vaccine. I've generally listened to what he has to say, and have taken a lot of his suggestions seriously (and, they've been pretty good suggestions, for the most part.) However, I am not buying his narrative about Omicron. It's a weird variant, to be sure. It doesn't seem to have evolved out of Delta, but rather to be something else that either mutated from one of the early strains of Covid, or to have come from human-to-mouse transmission and back again, perhaps. I've even read that some scientists consider it a different virus altogether, rather than a variant of Covid. Sorry I don't have links for this stuff -- I'm operating from memory, and it's too early in my morning for me to go searching around for references. All this to say, sorry UD .... but I just don't buy that Omicron is a designed variant by some genius to give us immunity. I watched a video from Dr John Campbell that made perfect sense. He speculated, based on available data, that rodents were infected with the original Wuhan virus, and over time the virus brewed inside them, and then they bit humans or excreted onto human food that was then eaten and consequently infected humans. Having been around 3rd world food markets, that scenario seems much more plausible than the genius version. I believe it's much too scary for most people to believe that we have very little, possibly no control, of this situation. I am tempted to say "If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him?" Voltaire. This is what we are doing, inventing the genius. This makes sense to me, too. Heck, even 1st world food establishments have rodent problems. I live in an area with a lot of restaurants (and have a cafe downstairs from me.) Rats are something that just goes with the territory. Since Omicron is so transmissible, it seems that even contact with rodent feces (say, from cleaning up a mess made by rodents) might be enough to spread it. Hantavirus is spread by rodent urine and feces, which can become aerosolized when one sweeps up droppings, etc. Yeah, I think we have lost control of the situation altogether, with it now in animal reservoirs. Rodents are particularly a problem since they are so ubiquitious, but other animals are carrying it too --- deer, cattle, etc. UD never did explain his sudden U-turn from "this is the stealth variant that I warned you about, that ends us all!" to his current "it's a designed, contagious vaccine" theory. I'm inclined to believe that it's a nasty, stealthy disease that has the potential to cause a lot of problems down the line for many of those who had a "mild" initial presentation. I'd love to be wrong about that, and I hope that people recover fully ... but Long Covid is real, and it's a big concern with contagion so widespread. Looks like freedom but it feels like death. It's something in between I guess... it's closing time. Lenonard Cohen |
S-man User ID: 81900667 01/25/2022 01:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects UK's HSA pulls a fast one... [link to assets.publishing.service.gov.uk (secure)] Table 12 used to show infection rates, hospital presentations and deaths per 100k for unvaccinated vs. 2-doses-or-more. The HSA have unilaterally shifted to an unvaccinated vs. 3-doses-only group. So rushed was the change, that the original table footnote on p38 still said rates for people with 2-doses, until the HSA hurriedly corrected it. For a wwhile, I can still produce the rates for 2-or-more doses, because I maintained my own population statistics in line with the ONS, so I think I have just found what I'm doing tomorrow afternoon... Will let you know. |
ParamedicUK
User ID: 81959806 United Kingdom 01/25/2022 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects You will love this one S-man https://imgur.com/a/hgnpuhL Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way…… Peace not War. |
ParamedicUK
User ID: 81959806 United Kingdom 01/25/2022 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects UK's HSA pulls a fast one... Quoting: S-man 81900667 [link to assets.publishing.service.gov.uk (secure)] Table 12 used to show infection rates, hospital presentations and deaths per 100k for unvaccinated vs. 2-doses-or-more. The HSA have unilaterally shifted to an unvaccinated vs. 3-doses-only group. So rushed was the change, that the original table footnote on p38 still said rates for people with 2-doses, until the HSA hurriedly corrected it. For a wwhile, I can still produce the rates for 2-or-more doses, because I maintained my own population statistics in line with the ONS, so I think I have just found what I'm doing tomorrow afternoon... Will let you know. Do does the unvaxxed in table 12 include the single and double jabbed as unvaccinated? Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way…… Peace not War. |
S-man User ID: 78659100 01/25/2022 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects Do does the unvaxxed in table 12 include the single and double jabbed as unvaccinated? Quoting: ParamedicUK No, it still has "Unvax", "1-dose" (1-20days), 1-dose(21d or more), 2-doses(14d or more) and the extra one: 3-doses (14d or more). Am looking now at Table 9. The 2-dose total is 1,112,775 cases The 3-dose total is 935,833 cases. So it seems disingenuous to just not bother with 2-dose people in Table 12. |
ParamedicUK
User ID: 81959806 United Kingdom 01/25/2022 03:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects Do does the unvaxxed in table 12 include the single and double jabbed as unvaccinated? Quoting: ParamedicUK No, it still has "Unvax", "1-dose" (1-20days), 1-dose(21d or more), 2-doses(14d or more) and the extra one: 3-doses (14d or more). Am looking now at Table 9. The 2-dose total is 1,112,775 cases The 3-dose total is 935,833 cases. So it seems disingenuous to just not bother with 2-dose people in Table 12. Unless they dont want to show something Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way…… Peace not War. |
ParamedicUK
User ID: 81959806 United Kingdom 01/25/2022 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects S-man - how does this prove vaccines are working …. https://imgur.com/a/8MO3vdM Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way…… Peace not War. |
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S-man
User ID: 78658574 01/25/2022 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects Ok, I got bored. Here is the UK case rates plot. This shows case rates per 100k of the relevant population for: unvax - note these are truly unvaxxed. Never Jabbed. vs. 2-doses or more (2nd dose >=14 days ago) Plot also includes the group that the HSA now reports on 3-doses (3rd dose >=14 days ago) [link to ibb.co (secure)] (Note the HSA have now 'cut out' the 2-dose only people from Table 12 of the document, I have them as part of the blue column.) My take: - Booster has reduced case rates in the young, we don't know how long for, though. - Booster has brought case rates in middle-aged people back towards the unvax rates. But not all the way. Yes, there are some promiscuity differences in how people act when vaxxed... EDIT: I am reminded here of the video Lago posted with Prof. Clancy- the part on immune response suppression to CoV's getting stronger with repeated exposure by injection (rather than natural /gut) - Booster effect has either worn off in the elderly (they got it Sept/Oct 2021!!!) - or - it simply never worked for these people in the first place. My feeling is:- it has worn off.. which does not bode well for the young in a couple of months. Last Edited by S-man on 01/25/2022 04:42 PM |
ParamedicUK
User ID: 81959806 United Kingdom 01/25/2022 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects Ok, I got bored. Here is the UK case rates plot. Quoting: S-man This shows case rates per 100k of the relevant population for: unvax - note these are truly unvaxxed. Never Jabbed. vs. 2-doses or more (2nd dose >=14 days ago) Plot also includes the group that the HSA now reports on 3-doses (3rd dose >=14 days ago) [link to ibb.co (secure)] (Note the HSA have now 'cut out' the 2-dose only people from Table 12 of the document, I have them as part of the blue column.) My take: - Booster has reduced case rates in the young, we don't know how long for, though. - Booster has brought case rates in middle-aged people back towards the unvax rates. But not all the way. Yes, there are some promiscuity differences in how people act when vaxxed... EDIT: I am reminded here of the video Lago posted with Prof. Clancy- the part on immune response suppression to CoV's getting stronger with repeated exposure by injection (rather than natural /gut) - Booster effect has either worn off in the elderly (they got it Sept/Oct 2021!!!) - or - it simply never worked for these people in the first place. My feeling is:- it has worn off.. which does not bode well for the young in a couple of months. Javid needs to see that graph Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way…… Peace not War. |