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I am not "from" any particular time period.
I grew up in a family of time travelers.
I am the youngest of 5.
My mother died in childbirth, so my siblings hated me.
They used to treat me like shit all the time and my father would put a stop to it any time he was around, but one day, my father got killed when we all time travelled to a dangerous time period and a misunderstanding in the local culture led to quick decisions and a shot to the head.

It was what you call the Old West.

We were there in search of gold.

The time machine uses a lot of gold to operate and upgrades and so on require more gold.

So, we were always in search of gold. So were a lot of other folks in the old west and that led to a lot of claim jumping arguments and shoot outs and we accidentally landed in the middle of one, so as a result, I try not to pop up anywhere dangerous.

Like I said, my siblings were assholes to me, so after my father died, it was going to be a really bad family experience for me and it was a me or them scenario, so I took off with the time machine and left them in another time period -- the Old West, that is. They are all dead now that I went into the future from their perspective by about a hundred and 50 years or so. I don't think they would have found any other time machines back there. Rest in peace, Dad.

Anyway, I try to pop up in places that aren't dangerous and there aren't any sharks, driving cars, people likely to get in my way or anything else by time travel jumping from the bottom of Lake Mead, so that's where I left my time travel machine.

It is built like a submarine on wheels -- probably fit in nicely in your "Burning Man" and go completely unnoticed in Nevada, so it seemed like a safe place to travel from. It is 4 wheel drive, amphibious, has inner and outer chambers for diving into, securing, draining and transferring to the inner chamber.

I came to this time period to chill out for a while and process the fact that I left my assholic siblings in the Old West and grieve my poor father who loved me with all his heart but died an unnatural death.

You all probably think this is a shitty time period to show up in given the current political climate, but it works out really well for a time traveler like myself.

I can cover up my face and not be noticed because everybody is covering up their face right now. People are paranoid and don't talk to each other and almost everything you could think of is for sale, in abundance and easily found.

And, one can still just have gold, walk into any pawn shop and trade it for cash, so that works out well for me.

With cash, I can go into any Walmart, purchase a temporary credit card, a computer, a phone, set up a dummy email, throw away phone number, create an account with any online store, order anything with the temporary credit card and have it sent to any Amazon drop location and pick it up.

I just made up a name I pulled out of a hat, Buffalo Bill actually and since it is all handled by internet fields and no humans, no questions asked.

I can now stock up on everything I need, spend as much time as I want here and then return to my time machine with all my shit.

And if any of you are planning to find my Time Machine in the Bottom of Lake Mead, it will take you quite a while since it is a big lake and you would have to go all over it looking everywhere and even if you find it, good luck without the key getting in it or operating it.

So, go ahead and try. I dare you. I would love to see on the news that some GLPer got a crane on a barge on Lake Mead and tried to lift my Time Machine off the lakebed and see if the spies running this place don't try to run off and see if they can get it working.

I do have a built in program and I can hit a button on my remote and it will travel through time to a pre-ordained destination and time period where I can meet back up with it as well, so there are some fail safes and that's why I don't mind bragging about where it is either.

So, while I am here, I will say I have been all over time -- well, not to every time period obviously -- that would be impossible; nobody lives that long. If you have any questions, I am happy to let you in on anything you want to know about anything I might know.
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I realize I could go back in time to before my dad died and save his life, but that would tip off my siblings.

See, my dad was the one who carried the time travel key and remote.

When he got shot, my siblings all took cover so as not to get shot, but I ran to my father, who was already dead by the time I got there. He was shot squarely in the middle of the forehead. I grabbed the key and remote from his pocket and the shooter paid me no mind since I was obviously unarmed, stricken with grief and tears and posed no threat. He figured it was better to see what my siblings were up to in case they were going to get the law and went off in their direction.

With the key and remote in hand, I took off the other way and went back to the time machine, got in and panicked. I set the dial for 150 to 151 years in the future and specified the bottom of Lake Mead which is a large geographic area, turned the key, pressed the remote and was gone.

A few moments later, now, I realize that my siblings are all dead but from my perspective, I don't have to think about them suffering since the moment I went forward in time, their deaths were generations ago, so it was instant from my perspective.

I never really lived in one time period for very long, so this might be what I do now. I think I will stay here for a while and check things out. It is a pretty crazy time period and like I said, there are a lot of things for sale and it is easy to buy shit and stock up anonymously with no questions asked. A lot of people are panic buying right now so if I buy in bulk, no questions asked.
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If I went back to before my dad died, he would never forgive me for leaving my siblings in the old west to die and stealing the time machine and at least it was a quick and painless death and I already saw him die. Bringing him back seems to be fucking with time and causing all kinds of weird paradoxes and it might make shit worse, so I am letting the past lie where it is and continuing on in life. Mostly, I am just really, really glad to be rid of my horrible siblings. They were all older and really horrible to me my whole life. They probably blame me for the death of our mother, who I never even met. She died during childbirth but that doesn't make it my fault. I didn't cause my own birth. My parents did and they did the same for all my siblings. It could have happened with any of them and it wouldn't have been their fault either.

In case you are wondering, no, I am not a dwarf. Yes, I have seen both Game of Thrones and Time Bandits, of course; and love them both dearly, but I am a normal sized person.

You might be interested to know that there were in fact many giants of different sizes in the past and that is all hidden from you now, but was common knowledge in the distant past.
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I am not "from" any particular time period.
I grew up in a family of time travelers.
I am the youngest of 5.
My mother died in childbirth, so my siblings hated me.
They used to treat me like shit all the time and my father would put a stop to it any time he was around, but one day, my father got killed when we all time travelled to a dangerous time period and a misunderstanding in the local culture led to quick decisions and a shot to the head.

It was what you call the Old West.

We were there in search of gold.

The time machine uses a lot of gold to operate and upgrades and so on require more gold.

So, we were always in search of gold. So were a lot of other folks in the old west and that led to a lot of claim jumping arguments and shoot outs and we accidentally landed in the middle of one, so as a result, I try not to pop up anywhere dangerous.

Like I said, my siblings were assholes to me, so after my father died, it was going to be a really bad family experience for me and it was a me or them scenario, so I took off with the time machine and left them in another time period -- the Old West, that is. They are all dead now that I went into the future from their perspective by about a hundred and 50 years or so. I don't think they would have found any other time machines back there. Rest in peace, Dad.

Anyway, I try to pop up in places that aren't dangerous and there aren't any sharks, driving cars, people likely to get in my way or anything else by time travel jumping from the bottom of Lake Mead, so that's where I left my time travel machine.

It is built like a submarine on wheels -- probably fit in nicely in your "Burning Man" and go completely unnoticed in Nevada, so it seemed like a safe place to travel from. It is 4 wheel drive, amphibious, has inner and outer chambers for diving into, securing, draining and transferring to the inner chamber.

I came to this time period to chill out for a while and process the fact that I left my assholic siblings in the Old West and grieve my poor father who loved me with all his heart but died an unnatural death.

You all probably think this is a shitty time period to show up in given the current political climate, but it works out really well for a time traveler like myself.

I can cover up my face and not be noticed because everybody is covering up their face right now. People are paranoid and don't talk to each other and almost everything you could think of is for sale, in abundance and easily found.

And, one can still just have gold, walk into any pawn shop and trade it for cash, so that works out well for me.

With cash, I can go into any Walmart, purchase a temporary credit card, a computer, a phone, set up a dummy email, throw away phone number, create an account with any online store, order anything with the temporary credit card and have it sent to any Amazon drop location and pick it up.

I just made up a name I pulled out of a hat, Buffalo Bill actually and since it is all handled by internet fields and no humans, no questions asked.

I can now stock up on everything I need, spend as much time as I want here and then return to my time machine with all my shit.

And if any of you are planning to find my Time Machine in the Bottom of Lake Mead, it will take you quite a while since it is a big lake and you would have to go all over it looking everywhere and even if you find it, good luck without the key getting in it or operating it.

So, go ahead and try. I dare you. I would love to see on the news that some GLPer got a crane on a barge on Lake Mead and tried to lift my Time Machine off the lakebed and see if the spies running this place don't try to run off and see if they can get it working.

I do have a built in program and I can hit a button on my remote and it will travel through time to a pre-ordained destination and time period where I can meet back up with it as well, so there are some fail safes and that's why I don't mind bragging about where it is either.

So, while I am here, I will say I have been all over time -- well, not to every time period obviously -- that would be impossible; nobody lives that long. If you have any questions, I am happy to let you in on anything you want to know about anything I might know.
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Have you tried to kill Hit.ler yet? The time travel authorities hate it when that happens.
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If I went back to before my dad died, he would never forgive me for leaving my siblings in the old west to die and stealing the time machine and at least it was a quick and painless death and I already saw him die. Bringing him back seems to be fucking with time and causing all kinds of weird paradoxes and it might make shit worse, so I am letting the past lie where it is and continuing on in life. Mostly, I am just really, really glad to be rid of my horrible siblings. They were all older and really horrible to me my whole life. They probably blame me for the death of our mother, who I never even met. She died during childbirth but that doesn't make it my fault. I didn't cause my own birth. My parents did and they did the same for all my siblings. It could have happened with any of them and it wouldn't have been their fault either.

In case you are wondering, no, I am not a dwarf. Yes, I have seen both Game of Thrones and Time Bandits, of course; and love them both dearly, but I am a normal sized person.

You might be interested to know that there were in fact many giants of different sizes in the past and that is all hidden from you now, but was common knowledge in the distant past.
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So travel back to a day before your dad died, save him. I know I would if I could.

He won't know why you're there. You can say you grabbed the key and ran to the time machine to save all of them. They won't know you went to 2021 first unless you tell them.
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The reason I call myself a warrior in my user name has to do with the time travel wars.

There were originally more than one faction of folks running around in time machines.

And, they did tend to war with one another.

And so, in order to survive, every time traveler does have to become a warrior in case of a war with another time travel faction.

Personally, I think it is extremely dangerous and have no plans at this time to get involved in time travel wars.

The reason there are time travel wars is usually because someone has more than one time traveler on board and they decide that they want to go different directions. Not everybody wants to go to the same time periods or locations for that matter, but with only one time machine, arguments begin within factions, so the only way to get along is to go hijack someone else's time machine and go your separate ways. That is "the way" as they say in the Mandalorian (also a fan of this show, by the way).

So, when that happens, folks look for signs of other time travelers and try to steal their time machines.

Hence, time machines have to be very, very hard to steal.

One way to make a time machine hard to steal is to make it out of a conductor that will electrocute anybody who touches it without permission and you don't want them to be able to pick up on the electricity with a device that can read electromagnetic fields from a distance. Gold has very low resistance and creates a very, very small EMI field and loses almost no heat, so it can be made to go hot with electricity very quickly without being picked up on externally. Also, if someone were to place a time machine made of gold into a car crusher and pulverize it and you were able to recover it and kill whoever did that, you could melt the entire thing down, take the gold and live a nice life by trading the gold for money in many time periods, so the gold comes in handy for a lot of reasons.
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Have you went to 33 AD yet?
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I can't go back and stop my dad. If I do, it becomes a paradox. He never gets shot and I never go back in time and since I never go back in time, I can't have told him not to get shot and then he gets shot anyway.
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Yes, I have been to the period around when he was alive, although they did not call him that name. That is a mispronunciation.

He was a saint that lived in the that part of the world for his childhood, travelled to the monasteries in the mountains near India and spent time there learning meditation and healing. He returned later to the area of his birth and taught what he learned to those who showed interest.

Most people do not want to leave their homes and families with no possessions to follow around a mystic and learn how to survive on foot traveling around when there are dictatorships that frown on anything unordinary and one can be executed for going against the present belief systems.

So, that is why he had the number of people you now refer to as disciples and not thousands upon thousands given the general interest in his miracles and message generations after he left the body.

The rough translation of his name is Joshua. The J was pronounced more like a Yud. So, that sounds like Yshua.

I believe it was spelled in that language as Yud, Shin, Yud, Aleph with an OO sound, Aleph with an Ah sound.

Something like this:

'SH'A:A-

My keyboard is not set up for that language.
It was spelled in Sanscript as well and translated sounds like Saint Issi or Saint Ishi.

I believe the name translates roughly into "G-D is deliverance" in modern day translations.

And G-D was spelled as Yud Hay Vuv Hay, which simply translates to the meaning that means "I am THE 'I AM'" and what that means is that G-D *IS* "awareness or consciousness *ITSELF*.

In other words, all awareness is G-D. G-D exists everywhere where awareness is and that is all that G-D *IS*. So your awareness, my awareness, everyone's awareness...G-D is the witness that experiences all that everyone experiences. G-D is having your experience, my experience, everyone's experience.

That is different though than to say if you are having a religious experience where you feel as though you are in the moment and there is only this moment and you are at one with it; that is considered a higher state of consciousness. G-D is all awareness, both the high and the low, the alpha and the omega. When you achieve a higher awareness, you realize more fully that you are not separate from G-D because you realize in that moment that all you really are is awareness.

In realizing that, you are then aware that you are God, your awareness is rather and so is anyone else's too.

He was trying to explain that he had reached some of those awareness levels and was trying to tell people that we are all a part of G-D. He expressed this by saying he was G-D. He was trying to teach others that they were as well, but to do that he first used himself as a vehicle to assist them in having that awareness with his assistance, so he was "the way" for those he was teaching, but ultimately, each person is directly G-D and needs not go through any intermediary. Sometimes, having a teacher can assist a person until they can figure out how to achieve these states without a teacher.

The control system of the day didn't like folks who said that they were free and G-D and not subject to the control system and so they were happy to put him and/or his disciples to death so that people were less inclined to learn about things that might weaken the control system. That is why he was killed.

The reason he did not resist is because he was not going to stop teaching; it was his calling and he wouldn't be enslaved into calling it off, so it was an impasse between himself and the control system of the day and they didn't have freedom of religion then, so if you didn't bow to the control system and show everybody that the control system will always win, they put you to death to ensure nobody follows in your footsteps. Nobody did for some time since the way they killed him scared everybody right back into the control system.

His story did not die though and it was told secretly through the generations and because of that, it became an inspiration to others in the future.

The idea that he "died for your sins" is a complete mistranslation however that doesn't mean that people who follow his teachings don't benefit from following his teachings.

The meaning of died for your sins translates roughly to that he died because the world was so sinful that through no sin of his own, he was put to death as an innocent in a world that punished innocence. That's all it means. He didn't wipe away your karma or anything. He tried to show a path to others to do good karma for themselves.

Each person is responsible for their own karma.

Of course, if a person believes in him and follows his teachings, they will treat others as they would want to be treated and thus do no harm or in other words, do good karma and that act will help that person to achieve higher states of mind and come closer to awareness levels that he was teaching, which is the equivalent of "heaven" by any measurable objective standard.

Heaven is an awareness level, not a place. Of course if everyone was in that awareness level, nobody would do any harm to anyone and the world would be in essence a heavenly place to live where nobody harms another. However, when he said his Kingdom was not of this world, he was referring to the fact that rather than amassing physical riches in this physical world, he amassed great riches of a spiritual nature in the less dense world overlayed beneath this physical one which feels like heaven when you do only good and experience the higher states of awareness you can reach when acting in this manner.

So, yes I traveled to that time period.

He was in the markets in the church throwing all the money around and it was scattered everywhere. We took the opportunity to snag some gold and collect it up for the time machine.

The only reason I know all that stuff is because when he was teaching in the body, his teachings were very, very clear and spread far and wide for a time. It was pretty revolutionary stuff for that time period in that location of the world, so a lot of people were talking about it.

Kind of like how now people are talking about the powers that be, the new world order and all the conspiracies, 2000 some odd years ago, in that part of the world, everybody who was into the truth was talking about this guy who traveled around and bucked the system.
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It would have done no good whatsoever if you are a time traveler to remove Hitler or his mother.

Those that are in power today were in power then as well. They funded both sides of the war. If they didn't do it with Hitler, they would have used someone else and achieved the same result.

As far as going back far enough to get rid of the powers that be, that is complicated.

If you have read up on your history (not the stuff in your public schools), you know that there was a power structure on this planet a long time ago that was benevolent.

This planet entered a dark age and the consciousness shifted and the resulting power structure is a result of that lowering of awareness.

The only way to remove the maleficent power structure is to change the consciousness of everyone on the planet and that is why there are golden ages.

The planet goes through cycles of golden ages and dark ages. It is written about in the yogic literature. This is the dark age right now and so it is ruled by those who prey on others using fear and ignorance, lies and slavery. People submit to it because their minds are closed to the awareness levels that would help them see through the BS and not comply.

Those is power seek to kill those who would comply with them and so it will take place that those who won't comply will live to see the beginning of the shift towards the golden age of awareness and those who submit to the powers that be will not live to be part of that day of awakening.

The day of awakening is a direct result of the fact that more people will be more awake and their group consciousness will infect the remainder.

When over half of those remaining on the planet are aware enough to shed fear and live in love, the love on the planet will spread to every heart all over the planet and assist anyone still alive to reach that awareness level.

That will cause everyone to act in a neighborly way and create a more heavenly place on earth and gradually it will get better and better as you all move into another golden age.

It will take a long time, but even the beginnings will be significant enough to feel wonderful for those who are here.

The powers that be, through their own ignorance, are actually bringing about the end of their reign by trying to hard to reach total supremacy. It will, in effect, backfire because those who survive by their own non compliance will be the majority remaining one day and their awareness will spread until it goes viral.
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Those in the golden age were aware that the dark age would return and with it, the powers that would be would try to take control by using chemicals and radiation to sterilize, shorten life spans, control, track and poison, kill and enslave the population. They knew they would not be there to save them, so they did what they could.

They reinvented the human body to be highly resistant to killing. They created our immune system to be highly resilient.

The powers that be can't figure out why they can't kill the population off quicker. They keep trying and it doesn't seem to work quite as well as they had hoped.

The issue they are running in to is one of a higher dimension. The folks who were benevolent in the golden age could see into the future. Any time the powers that be create a new weapon, the benevolent beings that modified the human body in the golden age can see that in their future and adjust the DNA of the future humans to deflect the attack to a degree.

So, the powers that be are up against an opponent that has a distinct advantage in that they can reprogram our DNA to fight the powers that be before the powers that be can even implement their attacks.

Of course, a person misses the muscle and it goes in the vein or artery, they are going to have complications and perhaps die; it can't be avoided. And they can keep adding more and more boosters to try to beat the human race one shot at a time, but somehow, in the end, so long as enough people reach a higher awareness of those who survive the onslaught, the world will awaken, become a better place and those who die will be able to reincarnate and keep trying until they can reach higher consciousness as well.

In the end, all souls have a chance to go back to G-D awareness, even the most evil ones who will pay their karma over lifetimes of debt and eventually change paths, become good and then do good and so on.

Evolution spiritually is a long, involved process and everybody is part of it. All roads lead to liberation eventually but the path is long and some may do bad things until they suffer the karma that teaches them to stop doing bad things.
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I think the site you were actually looking for to post this is Wattpad.

Cool though.
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dear op time traveler warrior fighter, according to space dot com site, science does support some amount of time-bending, though. For example, physicist Albert Einstein's theory of special relativity proposes that time is an illusion that moves relative to an observer.

An observer traveling near the speed of light will experience time, with all its aftereffects (boredom, aging, etc.) much more slowly than an observer at rest.

That's why astronaut Scott Kelly aged ever so slightly less over the course of a year in orbit than his twin brother who stayed here on Earth.

This means that in order to maintain the accuracy needed to pinpoint your car or phone — or, since the system is run by the U.S. Department of Defense, a military drone — engineers must account for an extra 38 microseconds in each satellite's day.

The atomic clocks onboard don’t tick over to the next day until they have run 38 microseconds longer than comparable clocks on Earth.

While Einstein's theories appear to make time travel difficult, some researchers have proposed other solutions that could allow jumps back and forth in time.

These alternate theories share one major flaw: As far as scientists can tell, there's no way a person could survive the kind of gravitational pulling and pushing that each solution requires.
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Have you seen the old giant trees?

If so, how tall were they? How many were around the world at once?
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I learned all these things by going back in time to the golden age.

All time machines were constructed in the golden age. To try to construct one now would be impossible. The technology simply does not exist here. To create one requires a mind and a dimension so advanced, it is only possible during that time period.

Some time travel machines were created in that time and some stayed in that time, because it is exceptionally dangerous to bounce around in the dark age, but since gold is a requirement for time machines and there is a huge emphasis on finding gold in the dark age, some time travelers traveled to the dark age to fetch gold. Once in the dark age, one's consciousness drops and thus some end up getting sucked into the dark age and never return to the golden age.

My family's time machine was in need of an upgrade to survive against other time travel warriors who we needed to protect ourselves from, so we traveled back to the golden age to get some modifications made to ensure our safety.

My siblings, who grew up in the dark age, were kind of mean, especially to me and did not have much interest in what was being taught in the golden age. We went there and they wanted to just get the modification and return to the dark age to fuck around. I was young and placed with a person in the golden age to sort of watch over me while we were there.

They explained all of this to me since they knew I would be here in the future on GLP answering these questions and wanted to get the information out there for you all. I did not understand that at the time but it has become apparent to me now. I was a child at the time and they pumped me full of information and I kept it to myself all these years.
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I have seen large trees. They are still in existence here today. You still have them in California.

They are not extinct even today. And they can continue to grow and will continue to grow so long as the areas they grow in are protected.

There are some located in NW California and some located in East Central California. Some are very tall and some are very wide. The very tall ones are very tall because of the ocean air that comes in from the pacific and travels up to the tops of the trees and feeds them water so high up. The wide ones are able to get wide because it snows up in the mountains and provides ample water underground for the roots to suck up. The species is the Redwood and they can grow as wide or as tall as the environment supports. If there were a snowy area next to the ocean and the seeds of the redwood fell there, they would grow both wide and also tall. They are the same species and they grow differently depending on the climate they are in.
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They call them Sequoias or Sequoia Gargantua, but essentially they are redwood trees and vary by climate.
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Nobody has counted the trees. Such a task would be daunting. Their current location (the really big ones) has been their location going back in time as well. They are specific to those regions because of the water available and the seeds having landed their from their ancestors.
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They call them Sequoias or Sequoia Gargantua, but essentially they are redwood trees and vary by climate.
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ok OP, tell us about La Palma the asteroid and WW3

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Yes, I have been to the period around when he was alive, although they did not call him that name. That is a mispronunciation.

He was a saint that lived in the that part of the world for his childhood, travelled to the monasteries in the mountains near India and spent time there learning meditation and healing. He returned later to the area of his birth and taught what he learned to those who showed interest.

Most people do not want to leave their homes and families with no possessions to follow around a mystic and learn how to survive on foot traveling around when there are dictatorships that frown on anything unordinary and one can be executed for going against the present belief systems.

So, that is why he had the number of people you now refer to as disciples and not thousands upon thousands given the general interest in his miracles and message generations after he left the body.

The rough translation of his name is Joshua. The J was pronounced more like a Yud. So, that sounds like Yshua.

I believe it was spelled in that language as Yud, Shin, Yud, Aleph with an OO sound, Aleph with an Ah sound.

Something like this:

'SH'A:A-

My keyboard is not set up for that language.
It was spelled in Sanscript as well and translated sounds like Saint Issi or Saint Ishi.

I believe the name translates roughly into "G-D is deliverance" in modern day translations.

And G-D was spelled as Yud Hay Vuv Hay, which simply translates to the meaning that means "I am THE 'I AM'" and what that means is that G-D *IS* "awareness or consciousness *ITSELF*.

In other words, all awareness is G-D. G-D exists everywhere where awareness is and that is all that G-D *IS*. So your awareness, my awareness, everyone's awareness...G-D is the witness that experiences all that everyone experiences. G-D is having your experience, my experience, everyone's experience.

That is different though than to say if you are having a religious experience where you feel as though you are in the moment and there is only this moment and you are at one with it; that is considered a higher state of consciousness. G-D is all awareness, both the high and the low, the alpha and the omega. When you achieve a higher awareness, you realize more fully that you are not separate from G-D because you realize in that moment that all you really are is awareness.

In realizing that, you are then aware that you are God, your awareness is rather and so is anyone else's too.

He was trying to explain that he had reached some of those awareness levels and was trying to tell people that we are all a part of G-D. He expressed this by saying he was G-D. He was trying to teach others that they were as well, but to do that he first used himself as a vehicle to assist them in having that awareness with his assistance, so he was "the way" for those he was teaching, but ultimately, each person is directly G-D and needs not go through any intermediary. Sometimes, having a teacher can assist a person until they can figure out how to achieve these states without a teacher.

The control system of the day didn't like folks who said that they were free and G-D and not subject to the control system and so they were happy to put him and/or his disciples to death so that people were less inclined to learn about things that might weaken the control system. That is why he was killed.

The reason he did not resist is because he was not going to stop teaching; it was his calling and he wouldn't be enslaved into calling it off, so it was an impasse between himself and the control system of the day and they didn't have freedom of religion then, so if you didn't bow to the control system and show everybody that the control system will always win, they put you to death to ensure nobody follows in your footsteps. Nobody did for some time since the way they killed him scared everybody right back into the control system.

His story did not die though and it was told secretly through the generations and because of that, it became an inspiration to others in the future.

The idea that he "died for your sins" is a complete mistranslation however that doesn't mean that people who follow his teachings don't benefit from following his teachings.

The meaning of died for your sins translates roughly to that he died because the world was so sinful that through no sin of his own, he was put to death as an innocent in a world that punished innocence. That's all it means. He didn't wipe away your karma or anything. He tried to show a path to others to do good karma for themselves.

Each person is responsible for their own karma.

Of course, if a person believes in him and follows his teachings, they will treat others as they would want to be treated and thus do no harm or in other words, do good karma and that act will help that person to achieve higher states of mind and come closer to awareness levels that he was teaching, which is the equivalent of "heaven" by any measurable objective standard.

Heaven is an awareness level, not a place. Of course if everyone was in that awareness level, nobody would do any harm to anyone and the world would be in essence a heavenly place to live where nobody harms another. However, when he said his Kingdom was not of this world, he was referring to the fact that rather than amassing physical riches in this physical world, he amassed great riches of a spiritual nature in the less dense world overlayed beneath this physical one which feels like heaven when you do only good and experience the higher states of awareness you can reach when acting in this manner.

So, yes I traveled to that time period.

He was in the markets in the church throwing all the money around and it was scattered everywhere. We took the opportunity to snag some gold and collect it up for the time machine.

The only reason I know all that stuff is because when he was teaching in the body, his teachings were very, very clear and spread far and wide for a time. It was pretty revolutionary stuff for that time period in that location of the world, so a lot of people were talking about it.

Kind of like how now people are talking about the powers that be, the new world order and all the conspiracies, 2000 some odd years ago, in that part of the world, everybody who was into the truth was talking about this guy who traveled around and bucked the system.
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How were you able to communicate with the people of this time/location?

Wouldn't you come across many different languages time traveling?
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I have seen large trees. They are still in existence here today. You still have them in California.

They are not extinct even today. And they can continue to grow and will continue to grow so long as the areas they grow in are protected.

There are some located in NW California and some located in East Central California. Some are very tall and some are very wide. The very tall ones are very tall because of the ocean air that comes in from the pacific and travels up to the tops of the trees and feeds them water so high up. The wide ones are able to get wide because it snows up in the mountains and provides ample water underground for the roots to suck up. The species is the Redwood and they can grow as wide or as tall as the environment supports. If there were a snowy area next to the ocean and the seeds of the redwood fell there, they would grow both wide and also tall. They are the same species and they grow differently depending on the climate they are in.
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Hm, not the trees I had in mind.
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If I went back to before my dad died, he would never forgive me for leaving my siblings in the old west to die and stealing the time machine and at least it was a quick and painless death and I already saw him die. Bringing him back seems to be fucking with time and causing all kinds of weird paradoxes and it might make shit worse, so I am letting the past lie where it is and continuing on in life. Mostly, I am just really, really glad to be rid of my horrible siblings. They were all older and really horrible to me my whole life. They probably blame me for the death of our mother, who I never even met. She died during childbirth but that doesn't make it my fault. I didn't cause my own birth. My parents did and they did the same for all my siblings. It could have happened with any of them and it wouldn't have been their fault either.

In case you are wondering, no, I am not a dwarf. Yes, I have seen both Game of Thrones and Time Bandits, of course; and love them both dearly, but I am a normal sized person.

You might be interested to know that there were in fact many giants of different sizes in the past and that is all hidden from you now, but was common knowledge in the distant past.
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How tall would they get?
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Regarding time travel and science, I am no expert on that subject matter. I didn't build it. I didn't even have the key and remote until recently. My dad did and being the youngest, I was not considered important in my family. I was very much relegated to the back of the line, so to speak.

For my own survival, I had to ditch my siblings. Otherwise, they probably would have ditched me once my dad died. I didn't want to be stuck in the old west, so I had a choice.

Either leave them there or be left there myself.

I chose to protect myself from them rather than continue to be the one who gets slighted by the majority as per customary in my family of origin.

They were not good people by any measure. All very selfish and materialistic. Out for their own pleasure and aggrandizement with no regard for others. To leave them with a time machine would have been a crime against humanity.

I would never do any harm but they would have with the power of the time machine. They would loot, plunder, steal and harm to get whatever they wanted. It is how they learned to survive. It is also dangerous and led to my father's death at the hands of a man who felt he found some gold first and didn't want to be stolen from.

Actually, we found it first, but it hadn't been mined out yet. We travelled further forward in time to when the mine had been opened up more to the moment when we knew they would strike a streak, or just before and tried to get on crew and be there to find it at just the right time and get a good share, but this led to a discussion about who gets how much based on how much work led up to it and who just happened to be there when a streak was discovered. In the end, greed won out and the matter of gold was settled with lead, a bullet rather.

It's a dangerous life going after gold like that. And so time travelers can become corrupt because of their business.

I have all that I need and do not want any trouble. I have seen enough trouble for a lifetime and want to live in peace.

My siblings had all kinds of ideas about robbing fort knox and this type of thing. Insane; would have gotten us all killed. Those are the types they were. Greedy, with no regard for our safety or the safety of others. Best to leave them in the past where they can do no harm and get whatever was coming to them; it was exactly the kind of place they deserved to live.
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I never went up a redwood and dropped a line down to measure it. Pretty tall, I guess.
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My family spoke this language as their first language. It is a little different 150 years ago. Their speech was slightly different and that led to the animosity when my dad was killed. They said he sounded like a foreigner of some sort and they didn't trust him. I sound like people of this day. I grew up watching movies a lot for entertainment. The TV was my babysitter and all the good cinema comes from Hollywood in the 20 to 21st century so that's the language that a lot of time travelers who like cinema pick up, but there are some who speak other languages. We don't like to hang out with other time travel factions though. That's a good way to get killed and have your time travel machine stolen, so we avoid them at all costs generally. There are a few reasonable ones out there who did not try to harm us and so I remember one of them who spoke a different language, but I don't know what that language was and I was very young. They looked different too. They looked like a cross between Oriental and Aborigines and spoke something that sounded totally different to each other but they could communicate through pictures and drawing, numbers (there are old number systems that you have to know to communicate with totally different people's who don't know your number systems, but you only need a key to translate the numbers and then you can translate stuff from one number system to the other. Languages can be so different that you can't do anything but draw pictures and use numbers.
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I never went up a redwood and dropped a line down to measure it. Pretty tall, I guess.
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No, the giant people, how tall could they get?
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Why do you waste your time creating fantasies
that have been done and redone over and over
and over in books and on the silver screen?

You only get ONE LIFE.

You will stand before Jesus Christ one day
and give account of it.

You obviously DO NOT KNOW HIM.

If you leave this world in the state you
are now in, you can forget about "TIME",
because your ETERNITY will be in the
Lake of Fire.

Or "EVERLASTING PUNISHMENT" as your Righteous
Judge put it.

If/When a Holy Angel casts you into that
DREADFUL PLACE, REMEMBER THIS DAY.
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[link to blogs.scientificamerican.com (secure)]

This is an example of the fact that some societies used different number systems.

In this example, they are talking about ancient babylonians using base 60.

You notice we keep time in base 60. 60 seconds. 60 minutes. Also 360 degrees in a circle. 365 days in a year roughly.

This is supposedly due to giants who had 6 fingers on each hand and foot. As a result, they had 12 fingers and 12 toes and used a base 12 system.

Since they had 5 appendages, foot (2), hand (2), head (1) and were accustomed to drawing stick figures, the symbol for 5 originated from drawing 2 down and 3 up or a stick figure. When you multiply 5 by 12 you get 60 and that became the basis of their number system.
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This story would have been so much better if the title had been:

My time machine is at the bottom of A lake OF mead

Oh well, too late to change it now, eh?
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